malvisguy212:


read the thread ,although we don't know the month or date of christ birth, but it no crime to celebrate christmas,read romans 14.

Are you saying that the point of the article is that no one knows the date of Christ's birth?

gatiano:


How can we (because i have for several years) celebrate what we know nothing about? If Jesus was not born on the 25th dec, then who then do we celebrate on this day? we must have been pagans without our knowing. besides what is christmas? christ and mass, mass (large number of people) gathered in Christ(nice), but it can also be interchanged with Xmas, Mass of people celebrating and unknown person, x= unknown varieble.

if Jesus is the beginning of christianity, why is not the sit of christianity in Jerusalem where He taught most of all his life before the holy jews people of God killed him?

Good questions.

seyisolu:


Christ lived for 33.5 years.
Let's say he was born in December. This means he reached his 33 years in December. Now let's count 6 months, we will land on June. Unfortunately, easter or the celebration of Christ's birth is not always done in June but April. Now let's count 6 months from October,we will definitely land in April. Therefore, christ was no born in December but October.
The God's Kingdom Society(GKS) has been preaching the truth about the date of Christ birth.
We do not know the exact day but the month is now known. Thank God for this revelation through Saint G.M.Urhobo, the instrument God Almighty used to found the GKS.

If so, why do folks celebrate it on Dec. 25th?

OLAADEGBU:


How did you arrive at this "truth"?

constant study and research bro...do you know until 1993 tinubu was a drug dealer in the US, Do you know king james of england edited the bible version called king james version and martin luther king took out some page off the old testament and also In the new testament but that of the new testament were restored eg mattew and revelation

OLAADEGBU:


Please, enlighten us on how God celebrated the first Christmas.

When God send the angel to announce the birth of jesus, a group of angels, the heavenly host were praising God for this announcement,this great day,they were singing.
Luke2:13-14. Suddenly a great company of the
heavenly host appeared with the angel,
praising God and saying,
14
“Glory to God in the highest heaven,
and on earth peace to those on whom his
favor rests.”

OLAADEGBU:


Any evidence to your assertion?

Yes Sir. Shall I bore you with the lecture now?

OLAADEGBU:


How did you know that?

The world was transfixed by the year 2000--worried about the'Y2K' bug in computers,
millennial madness in cult groups,  political union in Europe,  and a proposal to make
Mary "co-redemptrix" in the Catholic Church.  While Rome flirted with blasphemy, few
realized that the true 2000th lunar anniversary of the birth of Jesus was August 22, 1998,
or on September 11, 1998 by the solar calendar dating we now use. 

      Many may live to see the consequences of the anniversary, if it foreshadowed a coming
fake Christ.  Or at the  least, there were  dozens of lunatics eager to take advantage of the
year 2000 hysteria to get the attention of the gullible. 

      Yet the 2000th anniversary of the Nativity actually came 475 days before year 2000
began.  The correct anniversary date was about sundown, Jerusalem time, the end of the
Sabbath, Saturday August 22, 1998.

      How can we know the exact day--and nearly the hour--of the birth of Jesus?

      Simple arithmatic.  A child could have done it, if only the basic assumptions had been
correct.  But they weren't.  In the 19th century, critical scholars made a crucial decision to
reject a total lunar eclipse in January 1 BC and to accept instead one in March 4 BC, as
the chronological cornerstone for dating the death of Herod the Great, and thereby, the
possible birth years for Jesus.

      By so doing, the critics could argue Jesus had to born before 4 BC,  contradicting
Luke, who tied Jesus' 30th year to the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar, 27-28 AD.  Luke
effectively placed the birth in 3 BC, as did many of the early church fathers.  Ironically,
even the date used by the Pope during the Christmas Eve midnight mass ritual is itself 
consistent with the last half of 3 BC.

      The dirty little secret is that virtually all the available evidence has always pointed
at the harvest period of 3 BC as the focal point of the Nativity--including the possibility
of a late summer birth. 

      By rejecting Luke, scholars also threw out the date of the birth Luke gives in his
Gospel.  In his second chapter, Luke tells what happened the day Mary came to the
Temple for purification 40 days after the birth of Jesus.  All one has to know is what 
day this was.  And Luke plainly names the day.  In fact, he includes three statements 
identifying the day.  So what day was this?

      Yom Kippur.  The Day of Atonement.  The 10th day of the seventh month of the
Hebrew calendar. 

      In Luke's time, Yom Kippur was called three things: The day of the "Fast," the day
of the "Purification,"and the day of "Redemption."  Luke uses all three to identify the
day Jesus was brought to the Temple.  And he even quotes the Torah rule that mandates
the 40-day period for the mother to wait after the child's birth [Lk 2:22-38].

      And if there were any doubt that it was Yom Kippur,  Luke tells of a woman named
Anna who had been in the Temple for a "night and day" without leaving.  There was
ONLY ONE DAY A YEAR when a person could pray overnight in the Temple: Yom
Kippur.  All other days, the Temple was locked at sundown.

      This shows the 40th day of Mary's Purification had begun at the end of Yom Kippur,
the end of the 10th day of the 7th month, because we know the Purification was done at
the earliest opportunity--at the beginning of the 40th day after birth.  And since the 6th
month normally had only 29 days, simple arithmatic shows Mary's 39 days of Purification
had to have begun around sundown on the 1st day of the 6th month, called Elul.

      This was the night of the first sighting of the new moon of Elul.  The Magi in Babylon
were recording this sunset sliver of the new moon on a clay tablet.  The cuneiform tablet
the Magi made at that hour 2000 years ago, along with thousands of others from Babylon,
resides in the British Museum.  It is possible that this clay tablet was inscribed by one of
the famous Magi who later brought a strange set of gifts to Bethlehem.  So the new moon
seen by the Magi in Babylon at the very moment of Jesus being born is recorded on one of
the tablets now in London.  Cuneiform scholars have identified the date on this tablet as
equivalent to September, 11, 3 BC.

      The Hebrew lunar calendar dates vary with respect to our solar calendar.  So the 1st
of Elul was September 11th in 3 BC, but began on August 22 in 1998.  The same was true
in the days of the early church, of course.  In a given year, the 1st of Elul could have fallen
on September 8th, for example.

      This may solve another ancient mystery.  No one seems to know how Rome came to
honor September 8th as the birthday of Mary.  There is no Biblical,  historical,  or church
tradition to explain it.  It just emerges out of nowhere.  Rome keeps the 8th of December as
the Feast of the Immaculate Conception of Mary [ie. conceived without original sin].  It is
a holy day of obligation for all Catholics to attend Mass.  This feast is clearly based upon
September 8th also, and mortal sin is attached to the failure of a Catholic to observe it, yet
the origins of these dates are unknown.

      On the other hand, we can now see that if Jesus were born on September 11th as Luke
indicates, then Jesus would have been conceived around December 8th in 4 BC. The now
mysterious Mary dates fit Jesus quite well.  How might this have happened?

      In the late 4th century, in early 380 AD, Pope Damasus I was endeavoring to force all
Christians in the Roman Empire to yield to his authority.  He got the Emperor to issue an
edict requiring them to practice the religion of  Rome.  We know that it is about this time
the Christmas midnight Mass was first celebrated and December 25th first identified as a
Catholic holy day.  It is said Damasus was seeking to lure the people away from pagan
rites honoring the birth of the sun god at midnight by compelling Catholic attendance at a
memorial in honor of Christ's death, ie the Mass. The people confused this Mass with the
pagan solar birth rituals conducted at that same time.  Gradually, the Christ-Mass became
associated with the Nativity. 

      Meanwhile, the true feast around September 8th, which naturally honored Mary in
giving birth to Jesus, was converted into a day commemorating her own birth, and an old
holyday honoring the conception of Jesus was converted into a day commemorating the
conception of Mary on December 8th.  Strangely, there is still widespread belief among
non-Catholics that this is the day Jesus was concieved--a possible lingering remembrance
of the original meaning of this date.

      We can also tell from Luke's Gospel that Jesus had been born in early evening, for
Luke says the shepherds were keeping watch by night, but still had time to go into town
and tell the people what they had seen earlier that evening.  People rose early with the sun
in those days, and would have been asleep by 9 or 10 pm.  Therefore, the birth had taken
place no later than 8 pm, and probably before 7 pm.  Yet Luke says it happened at  night,
which means after sunset--surely after 6 pm in September.  Hence, it follows that Jesus
was born within a few minutes of 6:30-7:30 pm on the evening of September 11th, 3 BC.

      A confirmation of this time is in the book of Revelation.  Historian Ernest L. Martin
consulted NASA lunar-phase tables and found the image of the heavens in Revelation 12
showed where the sun and the moon were, relative to Virgo, at the time Jesus was born,
pin-pointing sunset of September 11th of 3 BC.  It seems the moon moves so quickly it is
"beneath the feet" of Virgo only a few hours every month.  Moreover, the moon comes
within two lunar diameters of Virgo's feet at the time of a new moon but once in  30 years.
The only such occurance any time near the birth of Jesus was on September 11th, 3 BC.

      Most previous attempts at determining the birth time were based upon astrology and
dating the Star of Bethlehem.  No one considered 3 BC because that year had erroneously
been assumed to follow Herod's death.  However, Dr. Martin has proven that Herod did
not die in 4 BC, but in 1 BC.  Scholars are now generally accepting the new chronology for
Herod, and this in turn has allowed the confirmation of the New Testament date for the
birth of Jesus.  Unfortunately, many churches continue to promote the critics' errors and
paganized traditions about the Nativity.

OLAADEGBU:


Have you been able to arrive at the exact date yet?

Of-course is sept.11

malvisguy212:

When God send the angel to announce the birth of jesus, a group of angels, the heavenly host were praising God for this announcement,this great day,they were singing.
Luke2:13-14. Suddenly a great company of the
heavenly host appeared with the angel,
praising God and saying,
14
“Glory to God in the highest heaven,
and on earth peace to those on whom his
favor rests.”

Individuals can celebrate their birthdays on a day or month which is not the actual day or month if circumstance demands so. We have heard of occult shrines becoming church sites after revivals. Does it now imply that whoever worships Jesus in shrines converted to churches are still worshipping Idols? NO. This is the situation surrounding both Christmas and Easter celebrations in christiandom.

Celebrating christmas on the 25th of Dec. or any other day and month or not celebrating it at all will neither endorse nor disqualify anyone as a candidate of paradise.

In a nutshell Malvisguy212, I share your view.

Unbias:


Individuals can celebrate their birthdays on a day or month which is not the actual day or month if circumstance demands so. We have heard of occult shrines becoming church sites after revivals. Does it now imply that whoever worships Jesus in shrines converted to churches are still worshipping Idols? NO. This is the situation surrounding both Christmas and Easter celebrations in christiandom.

Celebrating christmas on the 25th of Dec. or any other day and month or not celebrating it at all will neither endorse nor disqualify anyone as a candidate of paradise.

In a nutshell Malvisguy212, I share your view.

God bless you bro, long time? Hope all is well?

its march, no its september, no no no you are wrong its october, no na its december and so it goes on and on. why dont y'all say its in all the month of the year that will be better. . . when will people learn to say "I Dont Know"

OLAADEGBU:
Was Jesus born on December 25? Is December 25 Jesus' birthday? How did December 25 get chosen as the day to celebrate the birth of Jesus?

- http://www.gotquestions.org/December-25.html

The article you quoted is the lamest article I have ever seen in my entire life. Did you read it at all before posting here?

How much do you really know about Jesus? In the Book of Revelation 12:9, Jesus says that Satan would deceive the whole world. In another chapter he says that Satan would deceive every nation, tribe and tongue. With that being the case, we have to ask the question, “Did Satan deceive the whole world about Jesus as well?” I believe Satan did. Let’s think about it. Why would Satan deceive the world about everything except the man that the scriptures say will be born to destroy Satan himself? The scene in the Book of Revelations 12:3, the Dragon (Satan) is described as being red. Minister Farrakhan said the red symbolizes Satan’s anger at the pending birth of he who would end his rule. Satan attempts to kill the child as well as the mother. This is further evidence to show that it is highly unlikely that Satan would not try to alter peoples understanding of Jesus.

In my experience of sharing what I have learned about the true history of Jesus with others, I have learned that it is very hard for people to acknowledge that their understanding of Jesus is more of a result of Satan’s deception, rather than from God. I believe the same will be true for many who read this article. For those who still think that they have a correct understanding of Jesus, let’s see.

First, close your eyes and clear your mind and envision Jesus standing in front of you reaching out his hands toward you. What do you see? There is a great possibility if we are honest that you see a Caucasian man that resembles the many false images of Jesus we have seen so often. That image is far from the true image of Jesus, which is a Black man. Now some of you will say it does not matter what color he is and etc. I agree it shouldn’t matter what his color is. However, when there are billions of people who say they await his return, the stakes are too high to have a false image of him. Plus he (Jesus) is quoted as saying, “The truth shall set you free.” If we still believe in and have a false image of Jesus in our minds, then that means we are not as free as we may think/feel and someone is holding our minds in captivity. Who is that person?

Second question, do you believe that Jesus and God are the same person (the Holy Trinity)? NOWHERE in the Bible can we find words spoken by Jesus and his disciples, which are authentic, that support such a belief. Jesus and those who were disciples clearly understood that Jesus and God were two different people. If they did, why don’t we? Go and read chapter 5 of the Book of Revelations when Jesus was taken into a heavenly assembly where God lived. Who was the man sitting on the throne and who was the lamb? The man on the throne was God and the lamb was Jesus. They were two different beings. If Jesus never said he was God, who is responsible for so many people having this incorrect view of him? Satan again.

Third question, what date was Jesus born on? If you say the 25th of December, you are incorrect. At the touch of a button on the internet we can find out that this is a lie that is not supported by historical nor biblical evidence. Who taught you that he was born on the 25th of December? The answer is Satan again.

Last question, do you believe that Jesus was born of a virgin and had no biological father? That is also a lie that has been taught about Jesus. Go and study the promises that God made to David and Solomon. Have you ever wondered why Jesus was referred to as the Son of David? The reason he was is because God promised David (2 Sam. 7:12-17, Luke 1:32-33) and Solomon (2 Chronicles 6:14-17 and 2 Chronicles 7:16-17) that one of their descendants would rule over the House of Israel and His Kingdom. That descendant is Jesus. Jesus is related to David and Solomon through Joseph his father (Matt. 1:16 and Rom. 1:3-4). I know that is a shocking statement that collides with everything that you have been taught. Go and read the Gospel of Luke when Mary tells Jesus after he was found by them that, “…me and your father have been looking for you (Luke 2:48).” The father she was speaking about was Joseph. The word in Greek that was translated into English in that Gospel is a word that means biological father. If anyone knew who his father was beside God, it was Mary. If that is not enough, go and read the last chapter of Revelations 22:16 where Jesus himself says that he is the “offspring of David”. Define the word offspring. The words of Jesus further validates the genealogy in the New Testament (Matt.1:1) and the promise made to David and Solomon by God which God vowed not to break (Psalms 89:34-37 &132:11). So if you think that his mother was made pregnant by a spirit, when scriptures show otherwise, I ask again, who taught you that? Satan once again.


It snows in Palestine, so you know the Shepards was not outside on December 25th, some 2,000 years ago feeding their sheep and goats in the fields. Mathematically there was a CONJUNCTION OF THE PLANETS WITH THE HUGE PLANET JUPITER ON SEPTEMBER 9th, 2,000 YEARS AGO. So the Supreme Wisdom of Allah makes more mathematical sense that Jesus was born between the first and second week of September, and not on December 25th, (so-called Christmas).

There is one of your thread, where you asked if Jesus was really from the line of David, Yes He was through Joseph his biological Father.

OLAADEGBU:


How did you arrive at the month of September?

gatiano:
How much do you really know about Jesus? In the Book of Revelation 12:9, Jesus says that Satan would deceive the whole world. In another chapter he says that Satan would deceive every nation, tribe and tongue. With that being the case, we have to ask the question, “Did Satan deceive the whole world about Jesus as well?” I believe Satan did. Let’s think about it. Why would Satan deceive the world about everything except the man that the scriptures say will be born to destroy Satan himself? The scene in the Book of Revelations 12:3, the Dragon (Satan) is described as being red. Minister Farrakhan said the red symbolizes Satan’s anger at the pending birth of he who would end his rule. Satan attempts to kill the child as well as the mother. This is further evidence to show that it is highly unlikely that Satan would not try to alter peoples understanding of Jesus.

In my experience of sharing what I have learned about the true history of Jesus with others, I have learned that it is very hard for people to acknowledge that their understanding of Jesus is more of a result of Satan’s deception, rather than from God. I believe the same will be true for many who read this article. For those who still think that they have a correct understanding of Jesus, let’s see.

First, close your eyes and clear your mind and envision Jesus standing in front of you reaching out his hands toward you. What do you see? There is a great possibility if we are honest that you see a Caucasian man that resembles the many false images of Jesus we have seen so often. That image is far from the true image of Jesus, which is a Black man. Now some of you will say it does not matter what color he is and etc. I agree it shouldn’t matter what his color is. However, when there are billions of people who say they await his return, the stakes are too high to have a false image of him. Plus he (Jesus) is quoted as saying, “The truth shall set you free.” If we still believe in and have a false image of Jesus in our minds, then that means we are not as free as we may think/feel and someone is holding our minds in captivity. Who is that person?

Second question, do you believe that Jesus and God are the same person (the Holy Trinity)? NOWHERE in the Bible can we find words spoken by Jesus and his disciples, which are authentic, that support such a belief. Jesus and those who were disciples clearly understood that Jesus and God were two different people. If they did, why don’t we? Go and read chapter 5 of the Book of Revelations when Jesus was taken into a heavenly assembly where God lived. Who was the man sitting on the throne and who was the lamb? The man on the throne was God and the lamb was Jesus. They were two different beings. If Jesus never said he was God, who is responsible for so many people having this incorrect view of him? Satan again.

Third question, what date was Jesus born on? If you say the 25th of December, you are incorrect. At the touch of a button on the internet we can find out that this is a lie that is not supported by historical nor biblical evidence. Who taught you that he was born on the 25th of December? The answer is Satan again.

Last question, do you believe that Jesus was born of a virgin and had no biological father? That is also a lie that has been taught about Jesus. Go and study the promises that God made to David and Solomon. Have you ever wondered why Jesus was referred to as the Son of David? The reason he was is because God promised David (2 Sam. 7:12-17, Luke 1:32-33) and Solomon (2 Chronicles 6:14-17 and 2 Chronicles 7:16-17) that one of their descendants would rule over the House of Israel and His Kingdom. That descendant is Jesus. Jesus is related to David and Solomon through Joseph his father (Matt. 1:16 and Rom. 1:3-4). I know that is a shocking statement that collides with everything that you have been taught. Go and read the Gospel of Luke when Mary tells Jesus after he was found by them that, “…me and your father have been looking for you (Luke 2:48).” The father she was speaking about was Joseph. The word in Greek that was translated into English in that Gospel is a word that means biological father. If anyone knew who his father was beside God, it was Mary. If that is not enough, go and read the last chapter of Revelations 22:16 where Jesus himself says that he is the “offspring of David”. Define the word offspring. The words of Jesus further validates the genealogy in the New Testament (Matt.1:1) and the promise made to David and Solomon by God which God vowed not to break (Psalms 89:34-37 &132:11). So if you think that his mother was made pregnant by a spirit, when scriptures show otherwise, I ask again, who taught you that? Satan once again.


It snows in Palestine, so you know the Shepards was not outside on December 25th, some 2,000 years ago feeding their sheep and goats in the fields. Mathematically there was a CONJUNCTION OF THE PLANETS WITH THE HUGE PLANET JUPITER ON SEPTEMBER 9th, 2,000 YEARS AGO. So the Supreme Wisdom of Allah makes more mathematical sense that Jesus was born between the first and second week of September, and not on December 25th, (so-called Christmas).

There is one of your thread, where you asked if Jesus was really from the line of David, Yes He was through Joseph his biological Father.

hahahahahaha i cant stop laughing oo.. so Jesus is a black man i don die dis guy don finish me. . . david is a white man an isrealite and so is mary and joseph and their son jesus an isrealite too turned out to be black? hahahahahahaha na im be say we go ask mary wetin hapn how she take born black pikin...

He was surely not caucasian with blue eye and blond or brunette hair. Jesus was from the middle east. 2000 years ago, there were alot of jet black people in the region (where did President Goodluck Jonathan got that cap he is wearing from? where did the ijaws get that cap they wear? The whiteman gave it to them?), like i said, Jesus was from the mid-east, how come he has a blond hair and blue eye?

johnydon22:


hahahahahaha i cant stop laughing oo.. so Jesus is a black man i don die dis guy don finish me. . . david is a white man an isrealite and so is mary and joseph and their son jesus an isrealite too turned out to be black? hahahahahahaha na im be say we go ask mary wetin hapn how she take born black pikin...

gatiano:
He was surely not caucasian with blue eye and blond or brunette hair. Jesus was from the middle east. 2000 years ago, there were alot of jet black people in the region (where did President Goodluck Jonathan got that cap he is wearing from? where did the ijaws get that cap they wear? The whiteman gave it to them?), like i said, Jesus was from the mid-east, how come he has a blond hair and blue eye?

yo bro we talking skin colour here not eyes and hair..!!! :-/

i see, that is why people call me sometimes racist, when i am absolutely not. it is not about skin colour, the arabs are considered cousins to the black people, and can also be considered also cousins to the caucasians. there are fairer skinned arabs, there are darker skinned arabs and there are also black arab. The fairer skin and the darker skin arabs are not caucasians, just like the indians (both western and eastern), like the meztizos. These are people in actual fact we call mulattoes or half caste. The child of one black parent and a caucasian is a black child, not atall a halfcaste.
it takes a single generation for white to go black, it will take 7 generations for black to go white.
the meztizos for example, in the 15th and the 16th centuries in latin americas, the whiteman will go into the black woman by way of force, that child will be married into full white person or a child like him/herself (child of white and black parent), The blackman was not allowed to marry or go into white or mulatto or half white /half black person.
Thus Moses was an halfcaste, Jesus was an halfcaste, Abraham most definitely was a blackman(pure), His wife was a halfcaste.

The question of the genetics (gene-sis) of this world can seem so vast, but it can be brought to understanding where everybody came from. The black people never cared about what anybody's skin colour was, it was the whiteman that started the classifications and labelling, hated and troubled all, causing bloodshed and murder.

johnydon22:

yo bro we talking skin colour here not eyes and hair..!!! :-/

and if one has one drop of black blood, what did or does the white person call such a person?

gatiano:
i see, that is why people call me sometimes racist, when i am absolutely not. it is not about skin colour, the arabs are considered cousins to the black people, and can also be considered also cousins to the caucasians. there are fairer skinned arabs, there are darker skinned arabs and there are also black arab. The fairer skin and the darker skin arabs are not caucasians, just like the indians (both western and eastern), like the meztizos. These are people in actual fact we call mulattoes or half caste. The child of one black parent and a caucasian is a black child, not atall a halfcaste.
it takes a single generation for white to go black, it will take 7 generations for black to go white.
the meztizos for example, in the 15th and the 16th centuries in latin americas, the whiteman will go into the black woman by way of force, that child will be married into full white person or a child like him/herself (child of white and black parent), The blackman was not allowed to marry or go into white or mulatto or half white /half black person.
Thus Moses was an halfcaste, Jesus was an halfcaste, Abraham most definitely was a blackman(pure), His wife was a halfcaste.

The question of the genetics (gene-sis) of this world can seem so vast, but it can be brought to understanding where everybody came from. The black people never cared about what anybody's skin colour was, it was the whiteman that started the classifications and labelling, hated and troubled all, causing bloodshed and murder.

guy stop all dis ur assumptions and rambling moses halfcast and co... nawa for u ooo e be like say na back of bible u ma deh read... arabs arent caucasians neither are they negroes ...jews are not halfcast neither are they negroes (black) they are arabs... full stop.

They are not assumption brother, thay are facts. The only people we don't know their beginning are the black people. everybody else beginning is known except for the native indians. and there is no ending to a blackman except a blackman chooses to end his generations by intermixing continously with other races. black people are not a race, we are a nation, we are not racing anywhere, we have forever. this is not pride, it is the fact. Do you believe that you have automatic ticket to heaven being a black person? but except you refuse it.

OLAADEGBU:


Are you certain about that?

am sure bajebaje

haffaze777:



am sure bajebaje

That "baje" don spoil am.

OLAADEGBU:


Was Jesus born on December 25? Is December 25 Jesus' birthday? How did December 25 get chosen as the day to celebrate the birth of Jesus?

- http://www.gotquestions.org/December-25.html

Question: "Was Jesus born on December 25? Is December 25 Jesus' birthday?"

Answer: Speculation as to the time of Jesus’ birth dates back to the 3rd century, when Hyppolytus (ca. 170-236) claimed that Jesus was born on December 25. The earliest mention of some sort of observance on that date is in the Philoclian Calendar, representing Roman practice, of the year 336. Later, John Chrysostom favored the same date of birth. Cyril of Jerusalem (348-386) had access to the original Roman birth census, which also documented that Jesus was born on the 25th of December. The date eventually became the officially recognized date for Christmas in part because it coincided with the pagan festivals celebrating Saturnalia and the winter solstice. The church thereby offered people a Christian alternative to the pagan festivities and eventually reinterpreted many of their symbols and actions in ways acceptable to Christian faith and practice.

December 25 has become more and more acceptable as the birth date of Jesus. However, some argue that the birth occurred in some other season, such as in the fall. Followers of this theory claim that the Judean winters were too cold for shepherds to be watching their flocks by night. History proves otherwise, however, and we have historical evidence that unblemished lambs for the Temple sacrifice were in fact kept in the fields near Bethlehem during the winter months. With that said, it is impossible to prove whether or not Jesus was born on December 25. And, ultimately, it does not matter.

The truth is we simply don’t know the exact date of our Savior’s birth. In fact, we don’t even know for sure the year in which He was born. Scholars believe it was somewhere between 6 B.C. and 4 B.C. One thing is clear: if God felt it was important for us to know the exact date of the Savior’s birth, He certainly would have told us in His Word. The Gospel of Luke gives very specific details about the event, even down to what the baby was wearing – “swaddling clothes”—and where he slept—“in a manger” (Luke 2:12). These details are important because they speak of His nature and character, meek and lowly. But the exact date of His birth has no significance whatsoever, which may be why God chose not to mention it.

The fact is that He was born, that He came into the world to atone for our sins, that He was resurrected to eternal life, and that He’s alive today. This is what we should celebrate, as we are told in the Old Testament in such passages as Zechariah 2:10: “'Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,' declares the LORD.” Further, the angel that announced the birth to the shepherds brought “good news of great joy that will be for all the people” (Luke 2:10). Surely here is the cause for celebration every day, not just once a year.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/December-25.html#ixzz3MjxocHs3

OLAADEGBU:


That "baje" don spoil am.

u and I both know dat no Jesus was born except Jesus navas

since the original man has been so messed up and maimed and tamed by the colonizers for hundreds of years, they won't believe anybody except their colonizers (colo mental), well then from the whiteman's mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OolnfaUDQ3I

Maamin:
Jesus was not born on Dec.25th...he was born in the month of Tishri in the hebrew calendar which will be around september 11th to be precise in the gregorian calendar we have today. on the 4th B.C

Tishri is probably d concepTion day of John d forerunner no Jesus, 4 BC may very well be correcT, d monk who designed our calender may have made a misTake and moved abouT 3years. D previous pope, pope ben 16 said sunTin similar
www.nairaland.com/2060260/yes-christ-really-born-december#29171687

aaronson:
That guy above me nailed it....and that babe who wrote march is basically assumption by some scholars,august is way out of it but the TRUTH is no jesus was born...pope Julius the first of the catholic church came up with the december 25th fairy tale and martin luther king dad came up with the Xmas tree while,British successful business men came up with annual carnival which is now christmas carol,I spend at least 2hours everyday studying to know all of these.

pope julius is no d first catholic pope, do some research

Ubenedictus:

Tishri is probably d concepTion day of John d forerunner no Jesus, 4 BC may very well be correcT, d monk who designed our calender may have made a misTake and moved abouT 3years. D previous pope, pope ben 16 said sunTin similar
www.nairaland.com/2060260/yes-christ-really-born-december#29171687

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Nooo..the gregorian calendar is not a determinant of knowing if the date was 25th or not, but the hebrew luni/solar calendar..and we concern with the birth of christ not the conception of john the baptist.

Ubenedictus:


pope julius is no d first catholic pope, do some research

read and study posts before you pep your step on incorrect conclusion...what was written was pope julius the 1st and not the first pope of the catholic...Simple ENGLISH

Maamin:
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Nooo..the gregorian calendar is not a determinant of knowing if the date was 25th or not, but the hebrew luni/solar calendar..and we concern with the birth of christ not the conception of john the baptist.

jesus was not born in d tishri month, it is John who d bible ref as been born in dat month, john is 6 months older dan Jesus, you can do d calculations

aaronson:
read and study posts before you pep your step on incorrect conclusion...what was written was pope julius the 1st and not the first pope of the catholic...Simple ENGLISH

my mistake, i didn't read ur post well.

that not withstanding ur post is still incorrect the christmas date predates pope Julius, i believe u would have known this if you reseached more on the issue.
the link below can trace the date to at least 115, dat certainly predate pope Julius.



www.nairaland.com/2060260/yes-christ-really-born-december#29171687

Ubenedictus:

my mistake, i didn't read ur post well.

that not withstanding ur post is still incorrect the christmas date predates pope Julius, i believe u would have known this if you reseached more on the issue.
the link below can trace the date to at least 115, dat certainly predate pope Julius.



www.nairaland.com/2060260/yes-christ-really-born-december#29171687

what is this one saying? *out of context*