Christianity Etc › Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Jokerman(op): 3:18pm On Dec 01, 2024 |
GothamCities: Oh, that was part of your questions. I forgot to answer it. My apologies.
The question will require a broad biblical exposition but I'll make a summarized presentation with biblical references where necessary. The Bible didn't give any explicit information about it but we can draw a lot of inferences and insights from different biblical contexts.
1. Judging from the the Parable of Jesus about the rich man and Lazarus, we can deduce that SOME dead souls are already in heaven while SOME are already in hell. I used the word 'SOME' because there are other Biblical references to some others who are not yet in heaven or hell.
2. There's another Scripture in the book of Revelation that tells us where some of the dead were retrieved from for the final judgement of God.
Revelation 20:13:
"The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done."
This Scripture gives us another insight about where the souls of the dead are kept. Some are in the place of the dead were there is just total silence until the day of judgement.
From the Parable of Jesus, we can deduce that some people can so do wickedly that they're immediately transported to hell at death. Some people can so live righteously also that they're immediately transported to heaven at death, while some actually remain in the place of silence until the judgement day.
Let's look at another Scripture:
Revelation 6:9-10: "When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, 'How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?'"
From this Scripture, you'll see that there's another place called THE ALTAR where those souls who were martyred for their service to God are kept. These ones are not in silence, and are going to give their voice calling for judgement on the wicked bloodletters at the end of time. The Bible didn't tell us what they're currently doing under THE ALTAR but we can deduce that they're not in a place of silence.
So, I think we can understand from the scriptures shared above that the dead are not in any particular single place presently. Those who died without hearing of Christ and those who died having giving their lives to Christ are most probably in a place of silence presently. Those who died as martyrs for Christ are under an altar prepared for them of God. Those who died in serious wickedness are most probably in hell. Those who served God remarkably are most probably now in heaven.
I used the word 'most probably' because they're my personal deductions from what I could read in the Scriptures. My reader can choose to either believe them or not. I am not talking as an absolute authority on the matter. Great explanation |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Know The Parable Of The Rich Fool ? by Jokerman(m): 12:49pm On Dec 01, 2024 |
Free2Fly: Do you know for sure if God really exists  Yes I do My whole being is a proof, that I was not created by mistake, but by a God, the father of all creation |
Christianity Etc › Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Jokerman(op): 12:48pm On Dec 01, 2024 |
Michael547: Is there a difference between hell and Hades? If yes, explain. From what I know, Hell Fire is the place where sinners and enemies of God are currently punished in spirit form after they dropped the flesh, and waiting for their lot on the last day. While Hades, is the abode of the dead... I stand to be corrected |
Christianity Etc › Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Jokerman(op): 12:44pm On Dec 01, 2024 |
GothamCities: No, salvation isn't still open to those who have died. We're talking about those who died before Jesus died and resurrected.
For those who died without ever hearing of Jesus after Jesus had completed the work of salvation, such as our forefathers, this is what the scriptures say:
Romans 2:12-15:
"All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them."
God will judge those people such as our forefathers who have not heard the Gospel, neither know the law of Moses before they died according to their conscience. The conscience is the law of God written in the heart of every man. This is my question bro. You know that without Jesus Christ, no one can enter heaven. And since judgement of God will happen at the last day. Now where is there soul waiting? In Hell fire or in Hades? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Jokerman(op): 10:23am On Dec 01, 2024 |
Righthussle: They're waiting for you. Not yet my time in Jesus name. I don't know about you |
Christianity Etc › Souls That Died Before Jesus Christ Came - Where Are They Now?6 by Jokerman(op): 9:37am On Dec 01, 2024 |
Please what happened to souls that died without knowing or seeing Jesus.
Are they in hell, heaven or still in Hades? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Know The Parable Of The Rich Fool ? by Jokerman(m): 8:16am On Dec 01, 2024 |
Many people have the same mindset today... Not knowing that chasing all these without having God is like chasing the wind. |
Travel › Re: We Quit Our Jobs To Sell Jollof Rice In UK - Nigerian Food Vendor by Jokerman(m): 2:53pm On Nov 30, 2024 |
And they'll make better and much money than what they were making in Nigeria... And on the good side, people no go too buy credit rice for UK😹 |
Business › Re: Verydarkman Submits Petitions Against AccessBank On Behalf Of A Widow(vid) by Jokerman(m): 5:04pm On Nov 29, 2024 |
LordBiden: You all accussing access bank of fraud are morons,why not wait for outcome of investigations first.
This clout chaser of an activist will soon meet his waterloo.
He should keep running his mouth cho cho cho.
Silly boy. Are you an AccessBank worker? |
Business › Re: Verydarkman Submits Petitions Against AccessBank On Behalf Of A Widow(vid) by Jokerman(m): 5:01pm On Nov 29, 2024 |
Mandate1: This one will continue chasing clout till him land inside big trouble. Corruption supporter has typed |
Sports › Re: Asisat Oshoala, Paul Onuachu Nominated For 2024 FIFA Best Awards (Full List) by Jokerman(m): 7:17am On Nov 29, 2024 |
sonofsteven: He is in the top 11
Fabrizio Romano dropped it today
My own na wetin Messi dey do for there Na FIFA boy now... Wetin you expect |
Politics › Re: Oborevwori Appoints Brother, Onoriode As Delta Sports Commission's Chair by Jokerman(m): 7:10am On Nov 29, 2024 |
Love800: After Nigeria, delta state is the next failure. Nothing in that state. Only hotel, keke(tricycle) and agbero job full there! As in my brother... Such a failed state with all the natural and human resources the state is blessed with And the foolish deltans will keep voting PDP |
Politics › Re: Oborevwori Appoints Brother, Onoriode As Delta Sports Commission's Chair by Jokerman(m): 7:09am On Nov 29, 2024 |
All these useless governors sef |
Properties › Re: “live Where You Can Afford,” — Comedian Ushbebe Advises Lagosians(vid) by Jokerman(m): 10:53pm On Nov 28, 2024 |
RedScorpion: Houses are Cheap in Ikorodu....
From there you can connect the Island through the Waterways
Very Cheap Lol.... Ikorodu landlords don dey increase house rent now due to population influx |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester City Vs Feyernord: UCL (3 - 3) - On 26th November 2024 by Jokerman(m): 10:52pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
Wetin dey worry fraudiola 🫤 |
Romance › Re: Why Are Uneducated Ladies Often Lucky In Finding Good Husbands? (Photo) by Jokerman(m): 9:34pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
Men don't like stress.
Educated women too get wahala in almost everything... Sex, Food, lifestyle, management etc... |
Politics › Re: Why Is Apapa So Dirty by Jokerman(m): 6:22am On Nov 26, 2024 |
ClassicEvilSpir: Overpopulation and lack of planning is simply the problem.. maybe tell them to stop coming to Lagos, or stop breeding children they can't take care of, so they won't turn to vandalization.. lots of people looking for every reason to hate Lagos lol So Lagos is the most populated city in the world? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 12:27am On Nov 25, 2024 |
See how Erik Bin Laden people dey wish another man failure 😂😹 |
Politics › Re: On This Issue Of Selling Land, Nigerians Should Ask This Question by Jokerman(m): 10:59pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
Let me ask though...
Does any Yoruba man has land in Benin, Port Harcourt, Yenegoa, Warri, etc? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 4:35pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
😂 |
Politics › Re: Dangote Refinery Reduces Petrol Price To ₦970 Per Litre For Marketers by Jokerman(m): 4:30pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
So how much will marketers sell to final consumers??
Na still 1000 Naira above now ...
What if Pastor Adeboye did not pray, Fuel per litre fit reach 5k o |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Jokerman(m): 2:00pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
If Ancelotti lost 5 games in a row some fans would have tied him up and burned him alive 😎😹 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 7:11pm On Nov 21, 2024 |
🚨- NEW!!
Wout Weghorst BLAMES Ten Hag for his underwhelming stint at Manchester United.
He believes his lack of goals came down to the system employed by his then-manager and he was used as a foil to get the best out of others on the pitch.
[MEN] |
Properties › Re: Agent Refusing To Refund CAUTION FEE by Jokerman(m): 12:46am On Nov 21, 2024 |
Oga. Learn.
You pay this fees when you enter into a new house as a new tenant.
Rent
Agency
Agreement
Caution/Damages fee.
All 3 money you pay goes to the landlord, except the agency Fee which goes to the agents that worked to secure the house for you.
So if you need your caution fee, call the landlord, not agent... |
Properties › Re: Agent Refusing To Refund CAUTION FEE by Jokerman(m): 12:42am On Nov 21, 2024 |
Chrizoby: Is the agent that's in custody of the caution fee or the landlord?Agent is only entitled with agency or facilitator fee Don't mind the mugu. Asif he paid the money to the agent |
Romance › Re: Does God Still Speak With People Through Dreams? by Jokerman(m): 2:13pm On Nov 20, 2024 |
Yes, He Does. |
Politics › Re: 2027: Seyi Tinubu Endorses For Lagos Gov by Jokerman(m): 2:12pm On Nov 20, 2024 |
Seyinedu
Seyinjioke
Seyigozie
Seyimma
😎 |
Politics › Re: 2027: Seyi Tinubu Endorses For Lagos Gov by Jokerman(m): 1:15pm On Nov 20, 2024 |
Trimjos: Sharap there. Clówn!! That is a computer BOT bro |
Politics › Re: 2027: Seyi Tinubu Endorses For Lagos Gov by Jokerman(m): 1:13pm On Nov 20, 2024*. Modified: 1:28pm On Nov 20, 2024 |
Lol...
The beginning of APC downfall in Lagos ..
I'm happy 😹😂😹😂😹😂
But again his wife is Igbo...
So he has lost already 😹😹😹 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jokerman(m): 3:53pm On Nov 19, 2024 |
Leyqute: Rashford 2 yrs ago vs Rashford now
Na who no sabi go lose guard 😹 |
Family › Re: Happy International Men's Day 2024 (Picture) by Jokerman(m): 3:51pm On Nov 19, 2024 |
Dem dey celebrate Us wey be Men So?? |
Crime › Re: RE: Let Me Explain How The Money Ritual Works by Jokerman(m): 12:22pm On Nov 19, 2024 |
Ultimately money ritual is selling your soul to the Devil.
And you will end up in hell fire along with the Devil.
O ' foolish soul how long do you have on earth, to waste it by for mundane fleeting wealth? |