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Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by jonbellion(m): 2:36pm On Jan 10, 2017
babseg:
I will only talk about the bold because the rest is what we are experirnicng after the existence of the universer.

1. I know science.

2. the age of the universe has nothing to do with your explanation.

3. if you yourself know science you wont say all the matter were cramped together. why did big bang theory claimed that the universe was created from nothing
and yes the age of the universe has something to do with my explanation because i expaned that whenever we look up into space we are looking back in time
It takes 8 minutes for the suns light to reach earth
We are seeing the sun as it was 8 minutes ago
Our second closest star proxima centuri is 4
Light years away
We are seeing it as it was 4 years ago
If it explodes right now we wouldn't know from viewing the light it reflects but through other means but it would look asif it's still there
When you go as far back as light of 13 billion light years you see the universe at its earliest stages with gas clouds and stiuff that haven't become legit contents of the modern universe
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by jonbellion(m): 2:30pm On Jan 10, 2017
babseg:
I will only talk about the bold because the rest is what we are experiencing after the existence of the universe.

1. I know science.

2. the age of the universe has nothing to do with your explanation.

3. if you yourself know science you wont say all the matter were cramped together. why did big bang theory claimed that the universe was created from nothing
thy big bang theory never claimed that naa huh
The athiests claim
that
Don't mix it up bro
The big bang theory is a model of the history of the universe not what caused it to begin
In the beginning there was a question mark
All else followed
The end
Islam › Re: Open Question, Allah Failed Or Not? by jonbellion(m): 1:38pm On Jan 10, 2017
plappville:
Hahaha, broke his leg and Muhammad healed him..hahaha. you will never stop making a bigger fool of Muhammed cheesy cheesy I thought He did performed Miracles like healing a Leprosy, raising the dead, etc. My grand mum used to heal broken legs. She was also a prophetess grin


Muhammed was attended to because he was considered the most important person among them. Besides, 3 years is too short to be proud of. He would have survived it. Hopeully, Aisha told us he died of the illness from the food poison.



Keep a blind eye as if you didnt see it.


Narrated ‘Aisha: Allah’s Apostle in his fatal illness said, ‘Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians, for they built the places of worship at the graves of their prophets.’ And if that had not been the case, then the Prophet’s grave would have been made prominent before the people. So (the Prophet ) was afraid, or the people were afraid that his grave might be taken as a place for worship.” — Sahih Bukhari 2.23.472


The fatal illness is as a result of the food poison he ate. Can you deny that? See how wicked he is. Even at point of death he keep cursing people.. shocked


You got it already, Read text....



You see, simply? I pity you. A man who called himself a prophet, who cannot see what is forth coming about him, neither him nor his apostles saw the food poison coming. They all where socked in sin that day abi? grin


I dont think so angry

I SEE A FALSE PROPHET. A MAN WHO SUBMITEDHIMSELF TO BE USED BY SATAN TO DESTROY THE WORLD BY FULFILLING BIBLICAL PROPHESY. wink


It seems you do not understand it. It worth reposting it.
you are asking muslins to think well by putting a logical question as your signature
Yet when the same kind of questions are thrown at your religion you find the body ridiculous rationalisations
Hmmm
Nawa oo
Islam › Re: Open Question, Allah Failed Or Not? by jonbellion(m): 1:36pm On Jan 10, 2017
plappville:

Perform the pilgrimage and the pious visit forAllah. If you are forcibly prevented, make whatever sacrifice is feasible. But do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached the place of sacrifice. If any of you are ill or have ahead injury, the expiation is fasting or charity or sacrifice when you are safe and well again. And if you are secure, then he who takes advantage of a pious visit before the pilgrimage should make whatever sacrifice is feasible. For any one who cannot, there is three days’ fast on pilgrimage and seven on your return that is ten in all. That is for anyone whose family does not live near the Sacred Mosque (Masjid al-Haram). Have fear of Allah and know that Allah is fierce in retribution.(2:196)



Looking at this quranic verse, you will understand that Allah guaranteed Muslims safe retun home after pilgrimage in Mecca. Why then history shows that many Muslims do not return home after pilgrimage as they die of stampede? Isn't the Stamped contradictory to Allah's promised for Muslims pilgrims who went for hajj and die there? huh Can someone help a sister to explain this please. Thank you in advance. smiley
if you were so excited in unravelling the irrationality of your religion as well the world would be a much better place
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by jonbellion(m): 1:32pm On Jan 10, 2017
babseg:
You just shot yourself in the foot. This is one fact that makes big bang theory silly.

If the universe is expanding can you please tell me where it's expanding into?

If the universe started at a point on which plane was the point located and have you ever thought of what was outside the point?. It big bang theory that says time, space and matter all happened at once.
what the hell undecided
Do you even science huh
It's larger than what it was before
Mr man the universe is about 13 billion years old
In its easy stages all the matter was really cramped up together that atoms wouldn't be able to form
Now that the universe is cooler the leftover light from that early era is still existent but are now exist as faint microwaves all over the universe. This was predicted by the theory and is now a legit fact
Disprove the cosmic microwave background and you have torn apart the scientific mainstream model for the birth of the universe
When we look into space we are looking back in time so basically telescopes that can spot light billions of light-years away where e can see clouds and gas that have not formed into galaxies- which btw is excacrlu what we see
Mr man the big bang does not disprove god
The big bang does not even show what happened before the big bang cuz the laws of physics get a little woozy here
Delusional people say its the Abrahamic God that was the cause the big bang but they like to hide under diestic views
The sensible people like the diests say its God but they do not look at god as an anthropomorphic entity like the christians
*facepalm*
Agnostics like myself say we don't know
Some athiests say it started itself........ huh
The bottom line is that at least from the evidence we know we are on the right track
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by jonbellion(m): 11:08am On Jan 10, 2017
babseg:
There's a big problem with the big bang theory grin
and what problem might that be
-the universe is expanding
-the cosmic microwave background
-Red shift of light
-The abundance of elements in the universe
-the finite speed of light
All these point to the sane conclusion the the universe must have started at a point which buy the way is not an explosion undecided
If you have anything better that explains all these I mentioned better go and get your scientific papers peer reviewed and show that
almost a centuries worth of evidence are false
Good luck with that smiley
Celebrities › Re: Davido Buys 2017 Mercedes Benz Gla (Photos) by jonbellion(m): 10:52am On Jan 10, 2017
Who cares huh

Christianity Etc › Re: Nigeria, Ipod As The Lord Showed It To Me In A Revelation by jonbellion(m): 7:54am On Jan 10, 2017
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Sincere Christians Must Compulsorily Believe In Qur'an by jonbellion(m): 1:45pm On Jan 09, 2017
Lmao
The two Abrahamic religions squabble over who has the right imaginary god when in reality they are the exact same guy
Lmao
Comedy

Christianity Etc › Re: NAKED CHURCH UNVEILED, Opens Branches In Abuja, Lagos, P/harcourt by jonbellion(m): 11:32am On Jan 09, 2017
TheBossLadyK:
yes ooooo...... you know every church have one ore two verse in the Bible to back up their faith shuoooooo.....
lmao
Asin
Such a confused religion
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by jonbellion(m): 11:20am On Jan 09, 2017
Smh
Health › Re: 10 Health Reasons Why You Should Never Get A Tattoo (GRAPHIC PHOTOS) by jonbellion(m): 11:13am On Jan 09, 2017
Ok

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Catholics Stupid? by jonbellion(m): 11:10am On Jan 09, 2017
Lol
Christians denominations arguing about their delusions grin
They also argue with the muslins too
Pot calling kettle black cheesy

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Edo People The Champion Of Witchcraft? by jonbellion(m): 9:19am On Jan 09, 2017
Aren't you a little to old to be believing in witchcraft undecided
Someone was experiencing sleep paralysis and said a girls parent came to "press him" in the night
Smh
Oh Africa!
Christianity Etc › Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by jonbellion(m): 12:58am On Jan 09, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Wars are fought for personal power to help prop up the elite. God and His power is firstly expressed without any doubts in His creation. Except for atheists,agnostics and others a creator God is easy to accept.

I have come to realize that the real problem among religions of accepting the whole truth about Jesus Christ come mainly from the fearful clergy of all religions including the thousands of fake christian pastors. Their resistance to change comes from the fear of losing their own positions of power among their people and their illusion of status in society.

Jesus Christ did not come to close down any religions, but to show them all the mind-blowing gifts of healing and demonic deliverance etc that a loving God is offering them if they can only believe that he was sent by the same god that they worship.

Do you think it is reasonable for a jewish rabbi/ Imam/ pastor/ minister etc to deny their congregations the undeniable, superior personal benefits that God came to offer freely to the world through Jesus ? Instead of accepting the superior benefits that Jesus Christ gave them the Jewish Rabbi's rejected Him.

Scientists are considering overwhelming scientifically verifiable evidence that there is a loving CREATOR, coming out of the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and two excellent sources of study, Emmanuel TV and youtube.com

Emmanuel TV is a golden opportunity for all religions world wide to study in private and examine the evidence. They will make progress if they put aside their religious bias and racism. God is revealing Himself mightily through a black man. Examine the evidence not the man's color !
you started like a sane human being then went back to eat your own shit
Smh
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by jonbellion(m): 12:55am On Jan 09, 2017
JackBizzle:
I seriously believe that a lot of religious people we see in life are just mad people using religion to cover their madness. There are only a few good christians/muslims compared to the many that are wicked to the core.


For a long time, I started reserving my comments and taking a more observatory role on the religion section or religion in general. What I find is that many religious people do not really care about the well-being of the unbelievers.

-When an islamic terrorist kills hundreds in Europe, some muslims are more concerned about the backlash of being labelled "terrorists" (or the image of islam) rather than show empathy towards those that lost their lives.

-When a christian hurts an atheist (eg A christian woman recently shot an atheist to death), some christians just avoid the thread covering such news while others post off-topic things and derail such threads.


There was a case over a year back where an atheist (Mr Bala) was put in an asylum by his family just because he was an atheist. Some christians were happy with what happened and were arguing that it was not because Bala was an atheist but because he was truly mad. The facts came out that Bala was very sane and I told about 4 christians to apologise for calling Bala insane. None of them did. Rather, those christians ended up abusing me and atheism.


There is also the case of consistent lying against atheism or lying for the religion. We all know KingEbuka, a well known king of lies. He is a very great example of this- such a guy can tell any lie against atheism just to put it in a negative light. He knows that he is lying and so do many people but he still does it. Is this not madness?



I just tire for this wickedness. It is depressing.
that KingEbukas own ehn
His matter just tire me
I don't know how someone would be so so so so...... Dishonest(putting it politely)
Sha that's the trademark of apologetics
Christianity Etc › Re: Strange Tree With Arabic Inscription In Ogun, REAL PHOTOS by jonbellion(m): 11:50pm On Jan 08, 2017
And the religious stupidity continues
These Abrahamic religion followers never fail to crack me up
The only unfortunate thing is that they are dragging Africa's name down the mud as they do it
angry
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FA Cup: Chelsea Vs Peterborough (4 - 1) On 8th January 2017 by jonbellion(m): 4:30pm On Jan 08, 2017
GOAAAAAAAAL!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FA Cup: Chelsea Vs Peterborough (4 - 1) On 8th January 2017 by jonbellion(m): 4:29pm On Jan 08, 2017
Lmao this would be easy cool

Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Assaults Disabled Man For Not Believing In God (Photo) by jonbellion(m): 4:25pm On Jan 08, 2017
Where is KingEbukasBlog the athiests are heartless people town crier
Christianity Etc › Re: They Saw Our Messiah Jesus Christ For Real by jonbellion(m): 4:03pm On Jan 08, 2017
Wooow more religous brainwashing portraying the dead Jew as a Caucasian and not looking anything like your ancestors
Cool cool

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FA Cup: Man Utd Vs Reading (4 - 0) On 7th January 2017 by jonbellion(m): 8:20pm On Jan 07, 2017
Lol
Man Utd
What a useless club lipsrsealed
Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Has Destroyed Many Religious Soul(must Read) by jonbellion(m): 4:09pm On Jan 07, 2017
Pidgin2:
Sadly hades will be full at this rate, just what satan wants undecided
lmao
They have used this hell to whip y'all into place well well
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FA Cup: Man Utd Vs Reading (4 - 0) On 7th January 2017 by jonbellion(m): 3:46pm On Jan 07, 2017
Bossontop:
Its too easy grin grin grin
lol
Really grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FA Cup: Man Utd Vs Reading (4 - 0) On 7th January 2017 by jonbellion(m): 3:35pm On Jan 07, 2017
Ok
When you finish you can come and continue your mediocrity with mourhino and your 6th position in the premier league and then still lose the FA cup

Christianity Etc › Re: D by jonbellion(m): 3:18pm On Jan 07, 2017
Edenoscar:
but will these christians ever listen
nope they'll rather demonise everyone that does not share the steewped faith
Christianity Etc › Re: D by jonbellion(m): 3:16pm On Jan 07, 2017
Edenoscar:
but will these christians ever listen
Mr man remove this Oscar from your moniker na
It's bringing back memories
First Mata now this embarassed

Christianity Etc › Re: A Massage To Atheist,unbelievers And Persecutors Of Christians by jonbellion(m): 2:27pm On Jan 07, 2017
thiests be clutching on Pascal's wager like a last tampon
Christianity Etc › Re: Picture Of Bishop David Oyedepo Saves Lady From 30 Robbers by jonbellion(m): 5:38am On Jan 07, 2017
The daily dose of outright stupidity we get from the African continent is just getting too much to bear
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Nairaland Atheists Behave Silly Sometimes? by jonbellion(m): 12:53am On Jan 05, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
Nice one Jack!

we should be picky on which threads are worth our attention from now on

I've observed some threads that's built on dishonest premise

first it was "Atheists prove there is no god"

then "Prove Atheism is logical" amongst other threads

such threads make no sense

I once sent messages to some of my fellow atheists months back telling them to ignore certain threads and concentrate on those that are worth it even if it means NO thread for days or weeks

CC Lennycool, Dalaman, Randomperson, AgentOfAllah, Liberadeus, Hahn, Jonbellion

let us attend to only threads that make sense
lol true true
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Nairaland Atheists Behave Silly Sometimes? by jonbellion(m): 12:52am On Jan 05, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Why do you find it amusing ?

I'm actually aghast at such abysmal reasoning .

I'm actually doing you the favour not the other way round

Ignoring any thread is to your detriment not to the Christians'

Well if that's the consensus . Then so be it . smiley

No one wants foolish ignorant comments made by an insignificant attention-seeking minority littering all over the place cool
lol why are arsenal fans so exited undecided
They aren't even thier classic 4 anymore
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Religious Skeptics, Not Atheists? by jonbellion(m): 1:11pm On Jan 04, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Religious skepticism is not atheism or agnosticism . Because as a Christian I can be skeptical about the Islamic or Hindu belief or any other belief . The Muslim can be skeptical about the Christian belief or any other belief .

In Deism , religious skepticism is inherent . Religious skepticism is part of what makes Deism as a theological/philosophical position what it is i.e religious skepticism is an integral part of Deism .

The constructional elements of deist thought include:
1.God exists and created the universe.
2.God gave humans the ability to reason.

And the critical elements of deist thought :

1.Rejection of religions that are based on books that claim to contain the revealed word of God.
2.Rejection of religious dogma and demagogy.
3.Skepticism of reports of miracles, prophecies and religious "mysteries".

But in atheism , religious skepticism is not inherent . It is not part of atheism or agnosticism .

As an atheist you can be in religions like Buddhism , Confucianism , Jainism , Raelism since these religions do not entertain the existence of God(s) .

Like Steve Jobs was an atheist but he is religious as a Buddhist . Sir Tim Berners-Lee is an atheist but he is religious - he is a member of the Universal Universalism group.

So again , religious skepticism isn't atheism or agnosticism .

That means if you skeptical about religious beliefs , you are not actually questioning the existence of God because God is beyond the purview of religion

I think this is clear enough.
it's quite odd Steve jobs wasn't skilled at coding

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