Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by jonbellion(m): 2:36pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
babseg: I will only talk about the bold because the rest is what we are experirnicng after the existence of the universer.
1. I know science.
2. the age of the universe has nothing to do with your explanation.
3. if you yourself know science you wont say all the matter were cramped together. why did big bang theory claimed that the universe was created from nothing and yes the age of the universe has something to do with my explanation because i expaned that whenever we look up into space we are looking back in time It takes 8 minutes for the suns light to reach earth We are seeing the sun as it was 8 minutes ago Our second closest star proxima centuri is 4 Light years away We are seeing it as it was 4 years ago If it explodes right now we wouldn't know from viewing the light it reflects but through other means but it would look asif it's still there When you go as far back as light of 13 billion light years you see the universe at its earliest stages with gas clouds and stiuff that haven't become legit contents of the modern universe |
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by jonbellion(m): 2:30pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
babseg: I will only talk about the bold because the rest is what we are experiencing after the existence of the universe.
1. I know science.
2. the age of the universe has nothing to do with your explanation.
3. if you yourself know science you wont say all the matter were cramped together. why did big bang theory claimed that the universe was created from nothing thy big bang theory never claimed that naa  The athiests claim that Don't mix it up bro The big bang theory is a model of the history of the universe not what caused it to begin In the beginning there was a question mark All else followed The end |
Islam › Re: Open Question, Allah Failed Or Not? by jonbellion(m): 1:38pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
plappville: Hahaha, broke his leg and Muhammad healed him..hahaha. you will never stop making a bigger fool of Muhammed I thought He did performed Miracles like healing a Leprosy, raising the dead, etc. My grand mum used to heal broken legs. She was also a prophetess 
Muhammed was attended to because he was considered the most important person among them. Besides, 3 years is too short to be proud of. He would have survived it. Hopeully, Aisha told us he died of the illness from the food poison.
Keep a blind eye as if you didnt see it.
Narrated ‘Aisha: Allah’s Apostle in his fatal illness said, ‘Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians, for they built the places of worship at the graves of their prophets.’ And if that had not been the case, then the Prophet’s grave would have been made prominent before the people. So (the Prophet ) was afraid, or the people were afraid that his grave might be taken as a place for worship.” — Sahih Bukhari 2.23.472
The fatal illness is as a result of the food poison he ate. Can you deny that? See how wicked he is. Even at point of death he keep cursing people.. 
You got it already, Read text....
You see, simply? I pity you. A man who called himself a prophet, who cannot see what is forth coming about him, neither him nor his apostles saw the food poison coming. They all where socked in sin that day abi? 
I dont think so 
I SEE A FALSE PROPHET. A MAN WHO SUBMITEDHIMSELF TO BE USED BY SATAN TO DESTROY THE WORLD BY FULFILLING BIBLICAL PROPHESY. 
It seems you do not understand it. It worth reposting it. you are asking muslins to think well by putting a logical question as your signature Yet when the same kind of questions are thrown at your religion you find the body ridiculous rationalisations Hmmm Nawa oo |
Islam › Re: Open Question, Allah Failed Or Not? by jonbellion(m): 1:36pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
plappville:
Perform the pilgrimage and the pious visit forAllah. If you are forcibly prevented, make whatever sacrifice is feasible. But do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached the place of sacrifice. If any of you are ill or have ahead injury, the expiation is fasting or charity or sacrifice when you are safe and well again. And if you are secure, then he who takes advantage of a pious visit before the pilgrimage should make whatever sacrifice is feasible. For any one who cannot, there is three days’ fast on pilgrimage and seven on your return that is ten in all. That is for anyone whose family does not live near the Sacred Mosque (Masjid al-Haram). Have fear of Allah and know that Allah is fierce in retribution.(2:196)
Looking at this quranic verse, you will understand that Allah guaranteed Muslims safe retun home after pilgrimage in Mecca. Why then history shows that many Muslims do not return home after pilgrimage as they die of stampede? Isn't the Stamped contradictory to Allah's promised for Muslims pilgrims who went for hajj and die there? Can someone help a sister to explain this please. Thank you in advance.  if you were so excited in unravelling the irrationality of your religion as well the world would be a much better place |
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by jonbellion(m): 1:32pm On Jan 10, 2017 |
babseg: You just shot yourself in the foot. This is one fact that makes big bang theory silly.
If the universe is expanding can you please tell me where it's expanding into?
If the universe started at a point on which plane was the point located and have you ever thought of what was outside the point?. It big bang theory that says time, space and matter all happened at once. what the hell  Do you even science  It's larger than what it was before Mr man the universe is about 13 billion years old In its easy stages all the matter was really cramped up together that atoms wouldn't be able to form Now that the universe is cooler the leftover light from that early era is still existent but are now exist as faint microwaves all over the universe. This was predicted by the theory and is now a legit fact Disprove the cosmic microwave background and you have torn apart the scientific mainstream model for the birth of the universe When we look into space we are looking back in time so basically telescopes that can spot light billions of light-years away where e can see clouds and gas that have not formed into galaxies- which btw is excacrlu what we see Mr man the big bang does not disprove god The big bang does not even show what happened before the big bang cuz the laws of physics get a little woozy here Delusional people say its the Abrahamic God that was the cause the big bang but they like to hide under diestic views The sensible people like the diests say its God but they do not look at god as an anthropomorphic entity like the christians *facepalm* Agnostics like myself say we don't know Some athiests say it started itself........  The bottom line is that at least from the evidence we know we are on the right track |
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by jonbellion(m): 11:08am On Jan 10, 2017 |
babseg: There's a big problem with the big bang theory  and what problem might that be -the universe is expanding -the cosmic microwave background -Red shift of light -The abundance of elements in the universe -the finite speed of light All these point to the sane conclusion the the universe must have started at a point which buy the way is not an explosion  If you have anything better that explains all these I mentioned better go and get your scientific papers peer reviewed and show that almost a centuries worth of evidence are false Good luck with that  |
Celebrities › Re: Davido Buys 2017 Mercedes Benz Gla (Photos) by jonbellion(m): 10:52am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Who cares 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Nigeria, Ipod As The Lord Showed It To Me In A Revelation by jonbellion(m): 7:54am On Jan 10, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Sincere Christians Must Compulsorily Believe In Qur'an by jonbellion(m): 1:45pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Lmao The two Abrahamic religions squabble over who has the right imaginary god when in reality they are the exact same guy Lmao Comedy
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Christianity Etc › Re: NAKED CHURCH UNVEILED, Opens Branches In Abuja, Lagos, P/harcourt by jonbellion(m): 11:32am On Jan 09, 2017 |
TheBossLadyK: yes ooooo...... you know every church have one ore two verse in the Bible to back up their faith shuoooooo..... lmao Asin Such a confused religion |
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by jonbellion(m): 11:20am On Jan 09, 2017 |
Smh |
Health › Re: 10 Health Reasons Why You Should Never Get A Tattoo (GRAPHIC PHOTOS) by jonbellion(m): 11:13am On Jan 09, 2017 |
Ok
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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Catholics Stupid? by jonbellion(m): 11:10am On Jan 09, 2017 |
Lol Christians denominations arguing about their delusions  They also argue with the muslins too Pot calling kettle black 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Edo People The Champion Of Witchcraft? by jonbellion(m): 9:19am On Jan 09, 2017 |
Aren't you a little to old to be believing in witchcraft  Someone was experiencing sleep paralysis and said a girls parent came to "press him" in the night Smh Oh Africa! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by jonbellion(m): 12:58am On Jan 09, 2017 |
ScienceWatch: Wars are fought for personal power to help prop up the elite. God and His power is firstly expressed without any doubts in His creation. Except for atheists,agnostics and others a creator God is easy to accept.
I have come to realize that the real problem among religions of accepting the whole truth about Jesus Christ come mainly from the fearful clergy of all religions including the thousands of fake christian pastors. Their resistance to change comes from the fear of losing their own positions of power among their people and their illusion of status in society.
Jesus Christ did not come to close down any religions, but to show them all the mind-blowing gifts of healing and demonic deliverance etc that a loving God is offering them if they can only believe that he was sent by the same god that they worship.
Do you think it is reasonable for a jewish rabbi/ Imam/ pastor/ minister etc to deny their congregations the undeniable, superior personal benefits that God came to offer freely to the world through Jesus ? Instead of accepting the superior benefits that Jesus Christ gave them the Jewish Rabbi's rejected Him.
Scientists are considering overwhelming scientifically verifiable evidence that there is a loving CREATOR, coming out of the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and two excellent sources of study, Emmanuel TV and youtube.com
Emmanuel TV is a golden opportunity for all religions world wide to study in private and examine the evidence. They will make progress if they put aside their religious bias and racism. God is revealing Himself mightily through a black man. Examine the evidence not the man's color ! you started like a sane human being then went back to eat your own shit Smh |
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by jonbellion(m): 12:55am On Jan 09, 2017 |
JackBizzle: I seriously believe that a lot of religious people we see in life are just mad people using religion to cover their madness. There are only a few good christians/muslims compared to the many that are wicked to the core.
For a long time, I started reserving my comments and taking a more observatory role on the religion section or religion in general. What I find is that many religious people do not really care about the well-being of the unbelievers.
-When an islamic terrorist kills hundreds in Europe, some muslims are more concerned about the backlash of being labelled "terrorists" (or the image of islam) rather than show empathy towards those that lost their lives.
-When a christian hurts an atheist (eg A christian woman recently shot an atheist to death), some christians just avoid the thread covering such news while others post off-topic things and derail such threads.
There was a case over a year back where an atheist (Mr Bala) was put in an asylum by his family just because he was an atheist. Some christians were happy with what happened and were arguing that it was not because Bala was an atheist but because he was truly mad. The facts came out that Bala was very sane and I told about 4 christians to apologise for calling Bala insane. None of them did. Rather, those christians ended up abusing me and atheism.
There is also the case of consistent lying against atheism or lying for the religion. We all know KingEbuka, a well known king of lies. He is a very great example of this- such a guy can tell any lie against atheism just to put it in a negative light. He knows that he is lying and so do many people but he still does it. Is this not madness?
I just tire for this wickedness. It is depressing. that KingEbukas own ehn His matter just tire me I don't know how someone would be so so so so...... Dishonest(putting it politely) Sha that's the trademark of apologetics |
Christianity Etc › Re: Strange Tree With Arabic Inscription In Ogun, REAL PHOTOS by jonbellion(m): 11:50pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
And the religious stupidity continues These Abrahamic religion followers never fail to crack me up The only unfortunate thing is that they are dragging Africa's name down the mud as they do it  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FA Cup: Chelsea Vs Peterborough (4 - 1) On 8th January 2017 by jonbellion(m): 4:30pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
GOAAAAAAAAL!
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FA Cup: Chelsea Vs Peterborough (4 - 1) On 8th January 2017 by jonbellion(m): 4:29pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
Lmao this would be easy 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Assaults Disabled Man For Not Believing In God (Photo) by jonbellion(m): 4:25pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
Where is KingEbukasBlog the athiests are heartless people town crier |
Christianity Etc › Re: They Saw Our Messiah Jesus Christ For Real by jonbellion(m): 4:03pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
Wooow more religous brainwashing portraying the dead Jew as a Caucasian and not looking anything like your ancestors Cool 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FA Cup: Man Utd Vs Reading (4 - 0) On 7th January 2017 by jonbellion(m): 8:20pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
Lol Man Utd What a useless club  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Nairaland Has Destroyed Many Religious Soul(must Read) by jonbellion(m): 4:09pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
Pidgin2: Sadly hades will be full at this rate, just what satan wants  lmao They have used this hell to whip y'all into place well well |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FA Cup: Man Utd Vs Reading (4 - 0) On 7th January 2017 by jonbellion(m): 3:46pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: FA Cup: Man Utd Vs Reading (4 - 0) On 7th January 2017 by jonbellion(m): 3:35pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
Ok When you finish you can come and continue your mediocrity with mourhino and your 6th position in the premier league and then still lose the FA cup
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Christianity Etc › Re: D by jonbellion(m): 3:18pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
Edenoscar: but will these christians ever listen nope they'll rather demonise everyone that does not share the steewped faith |
Christianity Etc › Re: D by jonbellion(m): 3:16pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
Edenoscar: but will these christians ever listen Mr man remove this Oscar from your moniker na It's bringing back memories First Mata now this 
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Christianity Etc › Re: A Massage To Atheist,unbelievers And Persecutors Of Christians by jonbellion(m): 2:27pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
thiests be clutching on Pascal's wager like a last tampon |
Christianity Etc › Re: Picture Of Bishop David Oyedepo Saves Lady From 30 Robbers by jonbellion(m): 5:38am On Jan 07, 2017 |
The daily dose of outright stupidity we get from the African continent is just getting too much to bear |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Nairaland Atheists Behave Silly Sometimes? by jonbellion(m): 12:53am On Jan 05, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Nice one Jack!
we should be picky on which threads are worth our attention from now on
I've observed some threads that's built on dishonest premise
first it was "Atheists prove there is no god"
then "Prove Atheism is logical" amongst other threads
such threads make no sense
I once sent messages to some of my fellow atheists months back telling them to ignore certain threads and concentrate on those that are worth it even if it means NO thread for days or weeks
CC Lennycool, Dalaman, Randomperson, AgentOfAllah, Liberadeus, Hahn, Jonbellion
let us attend to only threads that make sense lol true true |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Nairaland Atheists Behave Silly Sometimes? by jonbellion(m): 12:52am On Jan 05, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Why do you find it amusing ?
I'm actually aghast at such abysmal reasoning .
I'm actually doing you the favour not the other way round
Ignoring any thread is to your detriment not to the Christians'
Well if that's the consensus . Then so be it . 
No one wants foolish ignorant comments made by an insignificant attention-seeking minority littering all over the place  lol why are arsenal fans so exited  They aren't even thier classic 4 anymore |
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are Religious Skeptics, Not Atheists? by jonbellion(m): 1:11pm On Jan 04, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Religious skepticism is not atheism or agnosticism . Because as a Christian I can be skeptical about the Islamic or Hindu belief or any other belief . The Muslim can be skeptical about the Christian belief or any other belief .
In Deism , religious skepticism is inherent . Religious skepticism is part of what makes Deism as a theological/philosophical position what it is i.e religious skepticism is an integral part of Deism .
The constructional elements of deist thought include: 1.God exists and created the universe. 2.God gave humans the ability to reason.
And the critical elements of deist thought :
1.Rejection of religions that are based on books that claim to contain the revealed word of God. 2.Rejection of religious dogma and demagogy. 3.Skepticism of reports of miracles, prophecies and religious "mysteries".
But in atheism , religious skepticism is not inherent . It is not part of atheism or agnosticism .
As an atheist you can be in religions like Buddhism , Confucianism , Jainism , Raelism since these religions do not entertain the existence of God(s) .
Like Steve Jobs was an atheist but he is religious as a Buddhist . Sir Tim Berners-Lee is an atheist but he is religious - he is a member of the Universal Universalism group.
So again , religious skepticism isn't atheism or agnosticism .
That means if you skeptical about religious beliefs , you are not actually questioning the existence of God because God is beyond the purview of religion
I think this is clear enough. it's quite odd Steve jobs wasn't skilled at coding |