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The facility needs 6 million US dollars to start it's operations,the money will be catered for in this years budget.Kenyatta University infrastructure is top notch! I'm currently here!

Kenyanstar:
Busia is a nondescript town at the Kenya-Uganda border. Why should we make comparisons with a small urban setting with less than 50k population? It does not even qualify to be among top 10 towns in Kenya and you want to make a comparison with a city in Nigeria with a population of over a million? Your IQ is so low.
KENYATTA UNI. REFERRAL HOSPITAL
The new facility will be the biggest in East and central Africa

It's called zoning you muppet. Not everywhere in Nairobi are you going to build just anyhow! You can't build a sky-crapper or a building past 2 floors or go on subdividing land into smaller plots in Muthaiga,Gigiri,Karen among other places!

samsobo24:
I told you to tell me why Abk has some 24th century project Nairobi can't offer

you mean 14 riverside that turned to an action film recently

Now why are buildings too few there, simply because there is nothing on ground to build.

You can't have about 80% of land for greeneries and tell me you are conserving the atmosphere.

You have brutalized no one!

Eat that ! https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019/01/04/nairobi-ranked-6th-among-worlds-most-dynamic-cities_c1873267

samsobo24:
Let me answer you before I go face your boss


What the heck,dynamic what........

Handful of what,when Dangote refinery will start this year

Now tell me any meaningful project in Nairobi, do you think we are fools .

Lagos mainland alone handles several transport and housing infrastructural project

Isn't it worrisome that Nairobi has 4 out of the worlds biggest slum


Every good thing you find in a developed city,Nairobi lacks, except for showcasing your horticultural outputs by planting bushes in the name of Forests,having Chinese buildings, having matatus,your billion ksh spent on your said CCTV was a waste of money,No BRT,no modern bus stops etc ,no planned city from the scratch,CBD roads are as tiny as the way to heaven

show us the backward project of Monza slumpolis,where is the proposed city by the Kenyatta family

It obvious there is nothing on going in Nairobi, except for investors erecting their buildings in the CBD

Go and prepare very well before you come for me
I am off to brutalize your master

We have posted tonnes of other places.Nairobi is just the capital City,that's how it's central to us! How many times do you go on about Lagos? And the Eko project? Victoria Island blah blah blah

edon21:
everything in Kenya seems to be in Nairobi. no other place

Was it shot in Abeoukuta?

Ibrahimanis:
Another 100mil views


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_XkTKoDI18

We have ancient cities dating 14th and 12 th century and are infact tourists attractions! No one would pay to watch Abeukuta covered with a blanket of rusted iron-sheets!

samsobo24:
An acient city like Abeokuta has a light rail under construction

It has a modern city centre under construction

it has a BRT system,what looks like rocket science in Nairobi

What else do you have to say




Nairobi is too shitty

Your government impresses only tourist,that's why few parts like Westland, upper hill,Eastleigh, Riverside are only developed

Now let me dive in

Only Nairobi small CBD has about 90% of Nairobi's meaningful building
What you find in other places like riverside are just bush that you call greenery with few, scanty buildings

I bet you won't even afford a one metre square of land at 14 Riverside! It's only Nigerians that think development should translate to concrete monstrosities everywhere!

Don't even trying telling me all that about Abeoukuta,the whole city needs to be nuked and started again all over!

samsobo24:
An acient city like Abeokuta has a light rail under construction

It has a modern city centre under construction

it has a BRT system,what looks like rocket science in Nairobi

What else do you have to say




Nairobi is too shitty

Your government impresses only tourist,that's why few parts like Westland, upper hill,Eastleigh, Riverside are only developed

Now let me dive in

Only Nairobi small CBD has about 90% of Nairobi's meaningful building
What you find in other places like riverside are just bush that you call greenery with few, scanty buildings

And Lagos has more slum dwellers than Kenya!

dadark:
blabla....the trick is to have as little as possible slums....kenya is very bad in that....

nigerians are more better in it,although it hurts alot of ppor nigerians....

Nairobi is the world sixth dynamic City! Get back here when those projects are done and we would have added a handful of projects more than you!

samsobo24:
You are even contradicting yourself


Let me pretend Lagos has 38
Lagos has 38 and EAC has 8 = 46

And why don't you bring height into consideration, you are afraid

Many buildings are under construction in Lagos that are not listed,the LFT zone will have skyscraper/s ,the imperial international business city,the lekki smart city the EAC will have more than a thousand high rises, the Orange island, Diamond island,pewrinkle island etc are all there.

Now tell me when VI was created and calculate its massive rapid developmental changes.


Take a look at this building in LFT zone, I can assure it isn't among the skyscrapers

High rises are in Lagos mainland CBD,Ikeja and places like Surulere,Apapa,Yaba etc.


How can you think a CBD city like Nairobi can compete with Africa's largest city


Now tell me Lagos isn't Africas largest city
Nairobi is a lord in Kenya and not in Africa

61 BILLION DOLLARS*

Go to the link!

theenchanter:
$6b from tax from 2019-2021, a whopping 2years for $6b only.

We got close to $15b last year from tax only. Just around 8% to gdp ratio.

Ur gdp is cooked.

edited to 61b USD*

rvp2018:
Make that 61 billion dollars.

They are true slums but not slumpolis.Just look at Abeukuta.It's a city which is basically a total slum!

dadark:
you have nerves to call others slumpolis....

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.borgenmagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F06%2F12526211735_34b68c0c67_o.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.borgenmagazine.com%2Fconditions-kenyan-slums%2F&docid=f3hxB1AlY5A8yM&tbnid=73gI7rTyxruU3M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwg7KAAwAA..i&w=3872&h=2592&client=firefox-b&bih=596&biw=1024&q=kenyan%20slums&ved=0ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwg7KAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fdf%2FKibera_Nairobi_Kenya_slums_shanty_town_October_2008.jpg%2F300px-Kibera_Nairobi_Kenya_slums_shanty_town_October_2008.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKibera&docid=Ybwl3qXnmI54CM&tbnid=Y6qFaS2BttF8kM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwg8KAEwAQ..i&w=300&h=200&client=firefox-b&bih=596&biw=1024&q=kenyan%20slums&ved=0ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwg8KAEwAQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seattleglobalist.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F03%2FKibera_Part1_07.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seattleglobalist.com%2Fslumrising%2Fslumrising-partone&docid=bmrqC3mq9y0L5M&tbnid=x3p941IZZW2M7M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwg9KAIwAg..i&w=900&h=560&client=firefox-b&bih=596&biw=1024&q=kenyan%20slums&ved=0ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwg9KAIwAg&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.citiesalliance.org%2Fsites%2Fcitiesalliance.org%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2FSlums%2520in%2520Nairobi%252C%2520Kenya_0.JPG&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.citiesalliance.org%2Fnairobi&docid=P09tVdkTyNhC0M&tbnid=V4XxF-nMVj4YYM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwg-KAMwAw..i&w=3872&h=2592&client=firefox-b&bih=596&biw=1024&q=kenyan%20slums&ved=0ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwg-KAMwAw&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimg.huffingtonpost.com%2Fasset%2F574f175a1200002e008950c7.jpeg%3Fops%3Dscalefit_720_noupscale&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fkenyans-put-slums-on-the-map_us_574de273e4b0757eaeb0dbd2&docid=I21K9uj0kAkQZM&tbnid=g3oZ5Pa2Nv1b1M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwg_KAQwBA..i&w=720&h=478&client=firefox-b&bih=596&biw=1024&q=kenyan%20slums&ved=0ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwg_KAQwBA&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fichef.bbci.co.uk%2Fnews%2F660%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2F48278000%2Fjpg%2F_48278786_009750518-1.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2F10540379&docid=LG6qUaTQf-RcCM&tbnid=KCJ-S1IpIdwknM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwhAKAUwBQ..i&w=660&h=368&client=firefox-b&bih=596&biw=1024&q=kenyan%20slums&ved=0ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwhAKAUwBQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Fbuildesign.co.ke%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2FA-view-of-Kibera-Slums.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbuildesign.co.ke%2Fslum-upgrading-kenya-failed%2F&docid=hwjy2CmLlHzJJM&tbnid=G-9j3xfF-byXSM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwhBKAYwBg..i&w=1022&h=466&client=firefox-b&bih=596&biw=1024&q=kenyan%20slums&ved=0ahUKEwjT0-OE-JDgAhWOmLQKHd65C_UQMwhBKAYwBg&iact=mrc&uact=8

endless....

i just had to type in kenyan slums into google....

What? You mean the non-realistic state budget with budgetary proposals of more than 60% IGR?

theenchanter:
its just d difference, states budget is always bigger than our fed budget, does any african run its system like d US? does ur County or SA province or whatever they use have separate budget that will cater for their needs? Does Egypt have d same?

We are planning to collect 61 billion USD in taxes only from 2019 to 2022. I reckon we will smash this or sniff this figure! I hope the new government arrangement will deliver.KRA and the treasury have a plan to achieve this,let's hope it will materialize!

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2019/01/19/kra-rolls-out-plan-to-seal-sh528bn-tax-leak_c1880271

rvp2018:
When did they get past 6%. Nigeria cooked GDP shines through. I also think South Africa figures should be around 25%.

The usual excuse.Every government in the world has a sort of devolve governance.Well,your states are another bunch of jokers,let's not even get there! The IGR itself is just 3b!

theenchanter:
lol, we dont run d same form of govt, our own system of govt is diff from every other country in africa.

That's d fed govt revenue and not d entire federation.

Government revenues as percentage to GDP



Egypt......................19.861


Kenya.....................18.539


Nigeria....................8.490


South Africa............29.872


The giant is out here under-performing again! The Nigeria's funny GDP chronicles continues on!


https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2018/02/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=62&pr.y=7&sy=2016&ey=2023&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=694%2C469%2C199%2C664&s=GGR_NGDP&grp=0&a=

Argue him out and stop showing us how ignorant you are! Is this how you people argue?

dadark:
sharrap....you kenyans are loosers...prove me wrong....

Prove that the Kenya's economy is 60b? It's nice seeing that you transformed from an idea-less buffoon to a deranged fella! You just throw away figures without even propping up your arguments! It's 2019 now,I don't know which Kenya you are talking of right now.

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2018/02/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=42&pr.y=8&sy=2016&ey=2023&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=664&s=NGDPD&grp=0&a=#cs1

obaaderemi:
Where is your proof that there is 0% poverty in Egypt? You can't just talk without substantiating it. If you were productive your shittyy economy would not be $60bn and borrowed to the eyeballs.

It's still one of Moroccos vibrant sectors with high export returns.We are still newbies in the mining industry.We don't earn that much from minerals unless you prove to me otherwise!

theenchanter:
u initially posted a map, i told u mineral resources contributes 4% according to d map, now u're telling me it's 10%

So, tell me about ur mineral exploration too. https://expogr.com/detail_news.php?newsid=5334&pageid=2

The ignorance that Nigerian's have speaks volumes about their education system.A primary school kid in Kenya knows this!

tylann:
But i told the guy Ethiopia was never colonized
That is what we were taught in school by our kenyan history teachers

It's still resource based,that's the point.And it contributes to about 10% of Morocco's gdp! Minerals don't contribute that much to Kenya,we are not in any way a resource based economy!

https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2018/10/255783/morocco-market-mineral-production/

theenchanter:
according to the map, mineral play only 4% of morocco's gdp and not an important role as u said.

A glance at ur economy through wiki also shows that oil play a role in ur economy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Kenya

Export billions help in sustaining a country's currency because the currency used in the international trade is the dollar,so you get more dollars when you export alot. Oil no longer supports the Naira as much .Nigeria's gem now is actually the remittances which basically support millions of families there and help the country in increasing foreign cash inflows into the economy!

rvp2018:
You know why Nigeria is cursed. It precisely because of that. Their agricluture is archaic. They basically import everything. That is why their Naira cannot wistand the dollar. They will claims to have 80B -dollars worth of agricluture - but they will import sugar, milk powder, rice, wheat, maize, name it. Maybe only yams & cassava & sorhum-millet - they are sufficient.

Anyway Kenya need to get there - and start selling milk powder. I know French Conglomerate Danone - runs the dairy show - but as soon as they ratify the Africa Free Trade - we need to ship powder milk there.

Fulani cows are like Maasai cows. They cannot help anybody. They are just causing environmental degradation.Those are as good as keeping wild animals. We need IMPROVED BREEDS. Fulani cow you'll struggle to milk a liter out of it - while modern breeds you can get 40-50 liters - that is more like 40 times more productivity.

The thin Fulani cows won't even give you a cup of milk! These are what Nigeria needs to prop up its milk production!

rvp2018:
It's probably more now - I think we are doing 6B litres annually. Our dairy sector is definitely admirable. Nigeria and their fulani cows - worth 80B of dollars - still import tonnes of powder milk. It the market Kenya really need to tap in. Export of powder milk to Nigeria.

Kenya's dairy sector contributes 2 billion US dollars to the GDP,the sector produces about 5 billion litres of milk annually!

Kenya’s 1 million stockholders keep the largest dairy herd in Africa (larger than South Africa) according to Jimmy Smith, Director of ILRI. The industry contributes about USD 2 billion to the country’s GDP, according to USAID, considering the sector includes farmers, traders and vendors, collection centres, processors, and retailers.

Kenya’s dairy production sector is characterised by a huge number of small-scale farmers, who make up 70-80% of the total production. The co-operative system contributed significantly to the development of the dairy sector in the country with the emergence of the Kenya Co-operative Creameries.

The Rift Valley and Central regions produce the bulk of the milk in the country. However, other regions, including Eastern, Nyanza and Western regions also produce significant quantities of milk.


http://www.foodbusinessafrica.com/the-dairy-industry-in-kenya/

We produce worth 3.5 billion US dollars worth of horticultural produce.This is horticulture alone,so what is 4b to Kenya's Agriculture?

https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Horticulture-nets-Kenya-Sh305-billion/996-4489854-ut965tz/index.html

theenchanter:
all u posted are filled with LIES, u're already a known prevaricator.

U're not among d 5 largest producers of all u mentioned apart from tea n camel milk.

But ur agricultural sector is 25%, why export $4b worth of products?

Ur gdp is cooked, i tell u.

Can you locate Morocco in the map? Minerals play an important role in it's economy!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Morocco

theenchanter:
prove it.

Our horticulture is worth 3.5 BILLION DOLLARS! https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Horticulture-nets-Kenya-Sh305-billion/996-4489854-ut965tz/index.html

rvp2018:
Our biggest export is tea. We should be exporting nearly 1.5B dollars worth of tea now. Horticulture is also nearly 1.5B dollars. That should give your roughly 3B dollars. If you need still help with 1B dollar - then coffee is around 200-300M dollars. You probably still need my help to find you 700M worth of agricluture export or can you do this on your own. Fish and related should set you around 100M dollars. Still need help finding 600M dollars?

We knew Buhari as a Fulani who loves cows,that explains why we took him to Brookside when he visited Kenya!

You've basically said nothing!Poor lad,I bet you are a high-school dropout! Ibrahimanis might actually help you come forward with coherent arguments!

theenchanter:
[<sup>quote author=Jonraid post=75195887/sup]Nigeria has d largest agricultural sector in africa, being d largest producer of about 5 agricultural products in d world. So, ur agricultural sector is still a child's play compared to Nigeria's. U're not known as being d largest producer of any product in d world.

[sup].</sup>we don't expect it to shock u in d first place.
^{/sup]lol, i find this funny. I dont know south africa's bank worth, but I doubt if it's up to that and $41b in kenya will only pass as about $8b in Nigeria.}

that's ur cup of tea n u can forward ur complaints to d imf.

Morocco is a resource based one.Don't be a simpleton!

theenchanter:
mumu, u keep deceiving urselves.

Read about Morroco.

https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2018/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=71&pr.y=12&sy=2016&ey=2023&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=694%2C664&s=GGR&grp=0&a=

obaaderemi:
State Kenya's government revenue. We don't have nearly the same revenue.

Who said our economy is juicy? We just say that it is not a resource propped economy! Don't tell me that your government is enjoying the low crude prices?

WE ARE THE LARGEST NON-RESOURCE BASED ECONOMY IN AFRICA!

theenchanter:
the thing is, ur economy is not as juicy as portrayed, I'm not just interested in long unnecessary argument.

But if u'll be cool headed and won't resort to cheap talk, we can discuss both countries economy here.

With no emotions.