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khia:
I never said they were negroes, negroes are Hebrews. There are dark/black races in this world who are not of African decent.

And Israel was a colony of Egypt. You need to pull yourself outta of that bloody religious mindset. Your yahweh you are waiting for to save you is nothing but a Volcan deity from the fields of Edom which was created after the Egyptians withdrew from that part of the territory. Your so called Israelites are nothing but hibirus or apirus or habiri (refugees) within the territory of Egypt. People who later mixed with the canaanites.

So many empires came and fell, the Egyptians fell, the Sumerians in Asia present day Iraq fell, the ancient Chinese, the ancient Indians, the olmec empire, the mayan empire, the greek empire, the roman empire, the Mongolian empire, the Ottoman empire. Why the Bleep are you guys not asking these other empires the same questions. Hey, why are you no longer great? The brain doesn't expire so what happened. But for some reason, that question only comes when it is ohhhh, Africa and Africans. F you

mvem:
where is the racism in all what I say?...why being emotional?... Which statement did I make that is racist?...you can't even have an intellectual argument because I am countering your views ?

Because you are stupid. You and your paper are stupid. And there is so much stupidity in the first page that I refuse to read anymore. Neither will I stoop so low to read any thing about ancient Africa that has the word aryan in it. Get that into your thick skull. There's nothing aryan about ancient Africa except they are students from Greece. Even ancient Indians are dravidians and not aryans. The aryans only came later and mingled with the indigenous darker skin indians
Now get your racist bullshit outta my face.

I tried having an intellectual conversation with you before you pasted the link to your racist paper. I refuse to be part of your bullshit. Go find someone else to play your game. Anything that has to do with ancient Africa that has aryan in it must be because of Greece which was established less than 6000 years ago because that's the age of the mutated Caucasian gene, else, I don't want to fucking see it.

mvem:
how has any of my statement have to do with racism?...always playing the victim's card...where is the racism?...did I insult any race here ?...saying Egyptians aint Negros is racism?. Do you know what the word means

And you are ignorant not to know that the Negro race has physical characteristic...

https://www.jstor.org/stable/25104999?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents
You can go through that

What the Bleep is wrong with you. I am going to enjoy destroying your racist paper written by the set of scumbags who once proved that the negro had no soul. First page, second paragraph, kemet is far older than 5000 BC. Third paragraph, Egypt was never believed to be part of Asia and has never seen themselves as anything but African. That's why they made so much trips to the interior of Africa and even interacted with the interior of Africa a thousand times more than out of Africa. Only a fool would believe that BS. Kingdom of axum and yam are prime examples of places they frequently traded with. You know what, f you and your racist paper. I refuse to fill my head with YOUR racist propaganda. I am too educated for that bullshit.

mvem:
stop being emotional. If you are smart you won't call ancient European negros. This is very easy and the classification is free to investigate online. Type of Google "Negro" and come with your findings

And yes, Egyptians had slaves that were darker are possibly negros

So the negros were the slaves. I see. You are such a fucking racist. I could smell it from afar. Lol. You better get used to those images because they sure ain't you. And what type of a slowpoke thinks that Egypt is the same as nubia. And the fact that I showed you two kings, and you referred to slaves tells me exactly what I need to know about you.

mvem:
Nubians ain't Negros

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I asked you a simple question. Just one, what the the attributes of a negro? If you can't answer, then shut it. OK. Are they nilotics, bantu, horn African, khoi khoi, pygmy or San. Those are the only categories of people in Africa. Minus you know, the descendants of the Ottomans, Greeks and romans. Pick one let's compare their attributes

mvem:
we ain't quarreling...why do "blacks" or "Africans" feel there should be a sense that "we are one"...even the word black in terms of race has a wide division

Many black people are really annoying me. Nubian right. Let's get taharqa, a nubian. He rule after the Egypt pharaohs lost control of egypt. Is he a negro? Mind you, this is the king who conquered the Assyrians when they besieged Jerusalem. And later, king hezekiah thought it was the angels of yahweh who came to their aid.

LOL, can't wait for the day women will be primary providers so that I can be a full time husband.

mvem:
how do forensic scientist tell from the skull and skull structure that this is a Caucasian male or female or negro or Asian male or female ...what are you saying, this I say you know is fact...the Egyptian blacks are truly Nubians are stocks from Nubian etc...those guyz ain't negros

Calm down. I made it easy for you. Check the following post. DON'T DEFLECT AND ANSWER MY QUESTION, IS THAT A SCULPTURE HEAD OF NEGRO. SECONDLY, WHO IS ORU/ERU/HERU/HORU/HORUS? I don't know who you are but how dare you refer to any black person as stocks, how dare you?

Let me make it easy for you. Is this a negro black. This handsome man looks like me. Do you know who he is?

mvem:
you mean that...having a dark shade doesn't make you negro. The people of Nubia, Arabs of Yemeni/ the the Arabian desert, the Berbers, Ethiopians Amhara's etc though are black are not negros. Negro black race is primarily Bantu and people of west African and south Africa decent or primarily sub-sahara Africa and their facial characteristics is quite different ...

Have I answered you

Bantus are the product of the reproduction of a negro black and other black. Try again. What are the attributes of a negro? What do you mean by facial features because no two negro have the same facial feature.

mvem:
do tell me

You made an affirmative and categorical statement that the Egyptians were not negro black and you don't even know the attributes of a negro black? Then how did you come to the conclusion or were you told without verification. The negros are probably the easiest race of humans to identify, so what are their attributes?

mvem:
do you know the atrocities black commit in Africa. Even this country Nigeria is enough to see...do you know the genocides, war and massacres we blacks have done to ourselves in Africa,will you blame the white man for that ?

What are the attributes of a negro?

.......

Op never serious.

blogger10:
Did they ask you to buy them drinks?...and even if they did, you could ask them to buy you one instead.

Guy, I tire for you. You wan dyk yet you no wan buy drink. Na wa for you o.

Rozz:
the next one may unintentionally cause more reaction,so lets leave it like that

Make i see the picture sef. Hmmmmmm, sister. Jesus is truly in that abode. I am ready to meet my lord

derealj:
Las Las I don't believe that Nigeria is going to get any better no matter who takes that leadership position. The leadership problem the black man is having shows that something is fundamentally wrong with the black mind. If you want to contribute anything meaningful to the world, better go and join them in the west just like Emeagwali and Omalu did. Africa especially Nigeria will kill any good dream you have. Few good people might try to effect a change but when the empty ones are greater in number, nothing can be done. Peace.

Finally, you said it. I already knew that's your mindset. It's not a new thing to see Africans with such mentality. In fact, you guys are the majority. I used to be like you but that was before I got my masters degree in the UK. Well, I believe that the cycle will eventually come back to Africa.

derealj:
What I'm saying is that we should stop boasting with mundane things. It's like boasting that you have eyes, hell everybody have eyes. The art, ancient cities, language etc, other races have them too but can we boast of their technological advancements? Hell no. Tell me something with which we are greater than them. Some of those things you wrote there are pure falacy. You can't tell me that people that were killing twins and don't even know the cause of sickle cell anemia thereby terming those unfortunate kids ogbanje, burying the king with twelve slaves, and a lot of other atrocities committed out of ignorance are advanced. Infact if you are a twin you need to visit the Mary Slessor grave at calabar and pay homage because you could have been killed at birth. Yes Slessor is a westerner. Whenever you have a bacteria infection, remember to thank Alexander Fleming . These are the people you owe the modern lifestyle you enjoy not some phantom Egyptian or any African for that matter.

Like any other community, we had our own problems just like the Europeans also have theirs. Instead of focusing on the negative and trying to use that to pull down the whole race, come up with solutions and push your own agenda. Good thing that Nigerians know better now and are calling for a revolution.

arabmoney14:
Exactly! Let's build dat mindset now and start pressurizing our leaders to do the right thing. there are indegenous construction companies in Nigeria, who just need some boost. There is innoson who we can give full support now by patronizing them. Let the government provide 24hrs electricity, support science and technology. This is what we should be discussing!

I remember watching a Lagos lawmaker on a show. He came to discuss a particular bill. At the end of the show the presenters digressed and asked him why the house is not purchasing innoson motors..u should watch how he was stammering to give an answer, until they had to close the show cause time was up

Dats the type of leaders we have, and we have to be united and demand they do the right thing.
Africa and Africans have a lot of POTENTIAL. but unless the leaders and followers resolve to taking actions for our greeater good, it will remain potentials and not DEVELOPMENT

I completely agree

derealj:
What I'm saying is that we should stop boasting with mundane things. It's like boasting that you have eyes, hell everybody have eyes. The art, ancient cities, language etc, other races have them too but can we boast of their technological advancements? Hell no. Tell me something with which we are greater than them. Some of those things you wrote there are pure falacy. You can't tell me that people that were killing twins and don't even know the cause of sickle cell anemia thereby terming those unfortunate kids ogbanje, burying the king with twelve slaves, and a lot of other atrocities committed out of ignorance are advanced. Infact if you are a twin you need to visit the Mary Slessor grave at calabar and pay homage because you could have been killed at birth. Yes Slessor is a westerner. Whenever you have a bacteria infection, remember to thank Alexander Fleming . These are the people you owe the modern lifestyle you enjoy not some phantom Egyptian or any African for that matter.

I am not boasting, it is a fact. And I believe that we do not have problems with innovation, we have problems with leadership. These are two separate things. Our present socio economic system has to change if we are to move forward. Even the Chinese understood this, that's why they created a system of government that suited their needs.

sexylassie2:
Why do you like to write garbage.
Their is Aramaic and Amharic,

Aramaic is what Jesus spoke, now, the language is still spoken in a town in Syria.

Amharic is ethopia language, there was never a time Ethiopian were living in Isreal, they have always been a distinct culture and people living in the horn of Africa, Ethiopian do not even look like blacks.

If European didn't come to black Africa, nobody would have known about Soyinka, Achebe and the rest, you will still be living in a hut, by now, you will coming back from your farm with cutlass in your hand.

AUNTY, get sense, even if na small. I referenced ethopia and stated Amharic, you said that I am wrong that Amharic is the ethopian language. Does that even make sense to you? You said that ethopia is located at the horn of Africa, if ethopians are horn Africans, who are Somalians. I told you that the ethopian language is the nearest thing to the language that Jesus spoke, you said that it is a lie, that they are two distinct cities, did I tell you otherwise? You said that there was never a time that an ethopian lived in Jerusalem!!! Hmmmm... The queen Sheba, who went to Jerusalem and got pregnant for king Solomon is from where? And you said that the ethopians are not blacks, I agree, no body is black, not the negros, the nilotes, the pygmies, the bantus, the khoi khoi or San. Black was a European term designated for people with a darker skin hue living in the African continent. Now, shuuuu, go find your mate. AND IF EUROPEANS NEVER CAME TO AFRICA, THEY WOULD STILL BE LIVING IN CAVES.

arabmoney14:
Please let's just Channel our energy to suggest ideas on how Nigeria can become better on another thread instead of these useless arguments. Arguments will not bring better change, it will only waste our time and divide us more.
Nigeria is going from bad to worse and now will be the best time for us to WAKE UP

Being better is about belief and mindset. Under this present climate, Africa is not going to get better anytime soon. Even if the Chinese build us infrastructures, it will all eventually crumble like those that were built before.

derealj:
Now I know that you don't even understand what I'm saying. Trade, language, tradition, way of life, natural resources etc are nothing but nature at play. Hell Africa started with trade by barter just like every other place and later moved to cowries. Every race traded, had tradition, had a language, a way of life etc. It doesn't make you special. What made others special was that they used those resources and made something special out of it. Tell me what Africa achieved with her resources for the betterment of the world. The resources in Africa was so much that it attracted the westerners yet nothing to show for it. The westerners even used the resources to develop their place and Africa was just there mopping. Now imagine if it was the westerners were the indigenes of Africa imagine what they could have achieved with such amount of resources. Oga no make me vex o. Africans were too dormant for my liking.

I am trying to get your point but I seriously can't. Really, I tried. You said we didn't give the orld anything but the supposed father of modern medicine was a scholar of Egypt. You said we didn't give the world anything but the English language is a combination of the metu neta and the phoenician alphabets. You siad we did use the resources we had for our betterment but all the cities in your bible except Rome, Greece and syria are in this continent. Just say what you want to say, YOU WANT TO SAY THE BLACK MAN IS INFERIOR BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY. Even the greatest European artists to ever live clearly stated that the inspiration of their art works were African arts. I don try open people eyes but it seems I will have to wait for the next generation before my message will start making sense.

derealj:
Lol this one Don carry Lybia come. Tell me what your Benin, Timbuktu, Egypt contributed or is contributing to the world at Large today. Be it technology, scientific principle, letterings, space travel, etc. The ancient civilizations we know of did contribute something, talk about Galileo Galilei, Archimedes, Pythagoras, we have the Roman numerals, Arabic numerals, recent inventors and scientists like Carl Benz, Thomas Edison, Faraday, Isaac Newton, Pierre and Marie Curie, the Wright brothers etc. Name one thing Africa contributed or forever shut up.

What about imhotep, emeagwali, nei Tyson degrasse, Garrett Augustus Morgan etc. What do you even know about black inventors. And emeagwali is the reason why we have the super computers today. YOU ARE Welcome. Africans knew about the stars and planets and seasons and the sun being the center of the universe long before Galileo even came up with his theory. THESE ARE FACTS THAT EVEN THE WHITE MAN HAS CONFIRMED BUT FOR SOME REASON, BLACK PEOPLE WANT TO FOLLOW WHITE JESUS TO THE GRAVE INSTEAD OF MAKING THEIR LIVES BETTER.

sexylassie2:
Dude, you are writing garbage.

Most Africans, black especially where running naked before the European came. There are lot of picture evidence.

We had library, yet many couldn't even spell their name.

What languages were the books in the library in?

This isn't about inferiority complex but the truth.

AUNTY, park well. I am done with you. You have absolutely nothing to offer neither are you willing to learn. Take your inferiority complex some where else. But one more thing, the ethopians are still using the afro asiatic language they used in ancient time, it is the closest thing to the language the Israelites spoke before the romans drove them out of Israel. Amharic. And stop using the WE, it is YOU PERSONALLY. Most Black people were running naked? Hmmmmmm. Where do I even start with you. Nope, I am not going that road. Take your stupidity somewhere else. AS I SAID, HALF KNOWLEDGE IS WORSE THAN NONE.

derealj:
Lol you are angry that I said your IQ is low. Ok sorry but you started it when you said I have cognitive dissonance. You don't need to teach me their history, me that wrote them there know their history more than you do so let's not go there. At least the Greeks still have their letterings and the Roman numerals are still very much in use. But you trying to deviate the attention from Africa still wants to make me question your IQ. Tell me what Africa contributed to the world at large or is contributing right now then I can believe you small.

Did you even know that from 1000 to around the period of colonization, Africa was the highest exporter of (1) gold: all those jewelries you see with the queen of England, some were gifted to her and others were stolen from Africa. Mansa Musa on his way to mecca gave out so much gold that the price of gold dropped worldwide (2) salt: the equivalent of oil around 1000 years ago. (3) the largest producers of palm oil. In fact, it was this export that kicked off the industrial revolution and led to the abolishment of slave trade. HOW COME YOU GUYS ONLY KNOW ABOUT THE SLAVE TRADE BUT NOT THE OTHER TRADES? Do you even know how many sea ports were located in the west coast of Africa alone. Ehhhhhhhh. My people will continue to perish. Go to European museums, half of the art works are from Africa. How can you be going to write about European history when you don't even know the history of your own continent. Wetin Europe give una chop o.

Gracemadeit:
. Matthew 11:6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.... Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another..... John 16:1 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.

Hehehehehehehehehehehehe. Will you kill your first born child if your God tells you to do so?

derealj:
Lol we are stuck in the ancient. Actually the ancient Egyptians had hieroglyghics and Eastern Nigeria had a form of writing called Nsibidi but my own is that they were too docile to develop it to a good standard. Coming to technological advancement, that's a different ball game; we developed nada.

Then we steal some and improve it to suit our needs. After all, the world have been draining us of our knowledge and resources from as far back as 6000 years ago. That's the game China played, and now they are banging heads with the big boys. The only problem is replacing our leaders so that we can destroy the present system entirely and replace it with something that is more natural to the various demography.

sexylassie2:
Its funny they say white people came to steal their resources.

Did the Africans know they were resources, yeah I know gold, iron, tin, were mined before Europeans came but there were many resources the Africans didn't know they were resources until the European started making money off it.

Why are so many ignorant people on this platform. I don't get it, at least if you are talking to intellectuals, please and please, do your research. Don't jump to demonize your own race because you feel inferior to the white man, it is not the fault of the negro race. With that being said, Africans had the largest gold artifacts in the world. We mined bronze, corper, had entensive salt reserves. Produced the largest quantities of palm oil in the world. Had a library, 2 libraries on this continent before any was built in Europe. See, I am tired. GO DEAL WITH YOUR INFERIORITY COMPLEX WITH SOMEONE ELSE. MAKES ME Sick. Even jewelry, cosmetic, soap and head wears started on this continent long before the time of christ.

derealj:
Your intelligent quotient is dangerously low. Culture and system is very different from technological advancement. What I said was that The Asians did well by maintaining their system and at the same time embracing tech development. The Romans and Greeks knew that it was not feasible to be stuck with outdated civilization. Africans on the other hand lost their culture and system, refused to advance technologically and are stuck with their ancient Civilization mentality. What I praised was the people that maintained their system and embraced tech advancement, and also people that dropped their ancient civilization mentality. What's difficult to understand here?

My IQ is very low. I'll let that pass. I prefer to do my own intellectually. So tell me, where are the mayans, Greeks and romans today. Do you even know that those civilization fell completely a long time ago. Do you even know that the ancient Greeks, Romans and mayans are almost entirely different from those you see today. At least, before you label me with low IQ, make sure yours is high enough.

derealj:
White men in black skin,? Lol bros no dey make me laugh. There's evil everywhere but the black man is evil to himself. It's true that the black race had systems and even developed a form of writing but have you ever asked yourself why those systems and writings have ceased to exist today? Don't tell me the whitemen influenced them India whom were colonized by white men still maintains their Hindi writing, Chinese maintains their mandarin, Japanese, Korea, Arabs, Russians all have their systems of writing till today. Some of these nations contributed next to nothing in the early development of the world but today, they have learned all the technologies and are doing wonderfully well with them. Why is there no surviving African system of writing?, why are the black Africans still unable to join the technological revolution? Why is electricity still a rocket science in Nigeria? Why is no African nation represented in the ISS? Why are many parts of Africa still very much under developed? Yet some people want me to believe that Africans were doing well in development if not for the whites. When we are able to answer these questions, we will find out that if not that we were docile and lacking in ideas yet unwilling to change, the whites would have nothing on us.

PS: Those yapping about Benin kingdom, Timbuktu, the ancient Egypt etc. Please where are they today or did they retrogress? That someone built a pyramid doesn't mean we shouldn't develop and build skyscrapers. I believe there's is a standard that the world development conforms to, if you are still riding bicycle when others are flying jets, that means you will be left behind in your state of mediocrity. The Greeks, Romans, Mayans etc had ancient civilizations but are today trying to embrace the new civilization. We Africans should drop this ancient civilization issue and embrace the technological revolution otherwise we would be stuck in the past blaming the white race.

You are not making sense. On one hand, you are praising the Asians for keeping their core cultural attributes and on the other hand, you are praising others for dropping their ancient cultural beliefs. This is a pure case of cognitive dissonance. Choose a path and stick with it. Then you may have a discussion. But kudos to you for at least knowing that Africans had some form of writing. FYI, the first place where a cheque or something close to it was used as a form of exchange of wealth is gold Coast ghana