Emusan:


The point so far according to you God's word enemies

According the Emusan who said Jesus lied, Jesus was wrong that only the Father knows.
....... Same Emusan admitted Spirit return to heaven , Criminals and assassin's died and return to Heaven since their Spirit is a Person ,

Emusan is an haven of shining ignorance.

Aemmyjah:

Did Jesus said he knows the day and hour the end will come
Yes or No?

Lolzz

Emusan:


Now, he wants to be clever by half

Yes! A dead person doesn't have SPIRIT because that is what goes to heaven to give account.

Wicked men go to heaven when they die since their spirit is a person ? LoooooooLLlll
Assassins, paedophiles , Rapists and the rest are all chilling in heaven right now. Are you this dull?

Emusan:


I defeated soul
He claimed inanimate object KNOWS the thought of his god

We are spirit person's from ABOVE , Yes ?

Emusan:


When you jumped into this thread, one will think you have something meaningful to contribute but only to keep repeating the nonsense your people have been repeating.

Yes! I believe that STATEMENT just as the Disciples of Jesus did.

Yet in the presence of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior they acknowledged HIS DIVINE ATTRIBUTE OF ALL KNOWING and Our Lord and Savior commended US for our BELIEVE.

because He knows He has been speaking in PARABLE but that day He told us PLAINLY and we understood that He actually KNOWS ALL THINGS

Reason why you deluded people have been trying to call the disciples LIAR.

That statement prove only the Father knows the day and hour. mumu said Matthew 24:36 is a parable, Olodo! I know the day and hour now since it's a parable, it's as clear as day. Nobody else can know , that's why the word " Only " is written there

The spirit PERSON is from God and was GIVEN BY GOD.

Thank you, now I know Jesus lied that we are from below, we are spirit person's from heaven above.

"You are from below"

Emusan:


You people are just too dull!

The BODY is what belongs to the EARTH which is the PHYSICAL PART AND MARKS our identity in physical world.


The SPIRIT is the spiritual aspect of human that can allow us to RELATE WITH SPIRITUAL WORLD.

I dey tell you say you don't have sense
We are from Above , Yes ?

Emusan:

You decide where God is.

This is the highest of delusion.

So where is God's throne ? Heaven.

Mumu man


The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth.

Finally humans come from ABOVE, we don't belong to the earth, since they are also spirit person's before they were born. Is your reasoning this low ?

Indians , hmmm

CAPTIVATOR:


Chill, the statement said " only"
Let me repeat it again

" ONLY "

According to the dictionary, Only when used in a sentence means THERE ARE NO OTHERS in that class.

So Jesus said ONLY the Father knows, ( which automatically means Jesus don't know and holy spirit don't know );

Do you Emusan believe this statement that Only the Father knows ? Yes or No!



Psalm 115:3 OUR GOD IS IN HEAVEN

The spirit return to God

God dwell in heaven.

Spirit return to where it came from.


Implication: The spirit person lives in heaven before he was given .


The question arises: So this person's exist in heaven before their birth? Adam existed in heaven before he was created ?

Emusan is on weed

Emusan:

The BODY died.

The body is the man that died. The spirit is his force of life.

Another nonsense to start giving you Bible study again.
The Spirit RETURNED TO GOD.
Says the Holy book.

That spirit is breath. Common knowledge

John 8:23
But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above"

Anybody claiming spirit that return to God is a Person is claiming we are also from above. Do humans also lived as spirit person's before they are born ? You don smoke weed Emusan.

Spirit of man is a force just as holy spirit is a force.

Emusan:


Smile....

See delusion.

Now, what the scripture says doesn't matter anymore just for your fraudulent ideas.

O ma se oooo...

Why is this hard for you
Present where Jesus said he knows all things ?

Doesn't exist?

That is your own understanding.

The scripture says the Holy knows the MIND OF GOD and the very THOUGHT OF GOD.

No inanimate object can know ANOTHER PERSON MIND.

To think ordinary FORCE knows the MIND of your god shows how powerless your god is.

That a force KNOWS the mind of your god should make you to be a shame of your god.

But for the great Yahweh, the God of the universe force is too small to know His mind talk less of His THOUGHT.

I repeat that was because spirit of man is also a PERSON.

Only a person have the ABILITY TO KNOW ANOTHER PERSON MIND.

You can't proof this wrong since.

No one knows the Father like the Son. The implication is that nobody can know what the son declares himself that he doesn't know because that would mean someone else knows the Father than Jesus which is unscriptural and wrong. Holy spirit knowing in that refers to a force that proceed from the Father himself. Not a person. Spirit of man also know the things of man, yet it's not a person but his breath

Emusan:


"Destroy this BUILDING and I'll raise it up...He is talking about His BODY"

Simple English.



O ma se ooo

So the BODY was alive!



So Jesus lied that He will RAISE the Body

Jesus also lied that He has the power to lay down His life and also TAKE it back.



The BODY was in the grave which is also Jesus
.

The SPIRIT can't die and is a person.

The bold is the point. Jesus died and was in the grave. Not heaven.

@highlighted, Jesus was in the grave , Countless humans have died before Jesus came to earth and yet he still declared no man has ever been to heaven John 3:13 . Men don't have another person that go to heaven when they die. Its a force.

Emusan:

So I never said Jesus lied, it's just your own false accusation.
The liar here is the one who is denying God and His word.

According to scripture:

Jesus knows ALL THINGS

Fraud, He said you should present where Jesus said himself that he knows all things ?

He already present where he said with his own mouth that he doesn't know.

THE HOLY SPIRIT KNOWS THE VERY MIND OF GOD, THE DEEP THINGS OF GOD and the THOUGHT of God.

Only a PERSON can know the THOUGHT of another person.

Holy spirit cannot know what Jesus said he doesn't know. Jesus is the closest person to the Father. This is clarifying the truth that it's a force that proceed from the Father himself.

Spirit of man was also said to know the thoughts of man and yet it's not a Person/soul . Wake up.

Emusan:


The reason why you have been jumping up and down is because you know you already lost the battle as your father the Devil did.

Jesus was obviously talking about His BODY which there's no doubt as He Himself said He will be the one to RAISE THE BODY.

" son of man will be in the heart of the earth"

Who is the Son of man?

You complicated issue more for yourself as this proved that:

1. Jesus body was the actual one that was BACK TO LIVE SINCE THE BODY WASNIN THE HEART OF THE EARTH.

2. Jesus is fully aware location of the resting body and reason why He can bring it back to life.

3. Spirit of Man is actual separated from man.

Blasphemy! You are saying Jesus didn't die for sins. He just changed location 😂🤣🤣🤣

God the Father raised Jesus back to life ( 1Pet 1:3) the person called Jesus died. The bible said the Messiah pour his own SOUL UNTO DEATH. Not just a body. HIS SOUL as a PERSON died.

It was Jesus that was in the grave until ressurection. He didn't take himself to heaven until the day he was taken up ... He died on earth, rested as a dead soul on earth for three days , get ressurected as a living soul on earth, until the day he was taken up to heaven.

Emusan:


So was Jesus seen after THAT ASCENSION BY disciples with their NAKED EYES?

There are how many ascension?

" For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. "

Jesus died on earth and remain 3 days and night ON EARTH.
Didn't return to Heaven until the day he was taken to heaven.

You this Fraud 😂

Emusan:


Yes! "At this particular time" I'm not going to the Father.

Simple English that even a kindergarten will grab quickly.



'SET' where did Luke say that.

See the person who is castigating me for using the word FINALLY

Preach and teach UNTIL THE DAY HE WAs taken up to heaven.

Went to heaven on that day. " Until "

before that day he didn't. You this fraud 😂

Emusan:


So was Jesus seen after THAT ASCENSION BY disciples with their NAKED EYES?

Fraud 🤣🤣🤣🤣

There is only one ascension not two.

Emusan:


Olodo...

You want me to proof to you EXPLANATION of a verse.

Did I say I'm QUOTING the verse with FINALLY? see the person I'm waisting time with here

O ma se oooo

Olodo 🤣🤣😂😂😂

Stop adding finally, Jesus ascend once.

Barristter07:


Someone that's bold enough to say Jesus was lying at Matthew 24:36 won't care to add more lies to protect himself. He now needs more lies to protect his other lies.

Boss 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

No proof, just vibes.

Jesus didn't even say I'm yet to ascend Finally to indicate he has ascended before . He said I'm yet to ascend . No finally o, Emusan dey cap nonsense

Luke still said he wasn't taken up until a set day. Emusan say e don go heaven before ascension , Confirm fraud 😂😂🤣

Emusan:


Smile....

But Jesus was there!

Now, the scripture is lying

Had it been the statement was like 'Lord I know you are a liar!"

Do you think Jesus will reply with “Do you now believe?" Or "Feed my sheep."

Or Jesus will quickly correct their understanding?

Someone that didn't even respond or bother to correct when he was called all sort of things during trial. 🤣🤣🤣Silence doesn't mean admittance

Provide where Jesus state it himself that he knows all things?

After all we know he already refute it with his own mouth at Matt 24:36

Emusan:


You must be a weed smoker for you to ask this.
Someone who came from heaven in the first place

Poor understanding is your problem.

Until the day he was TAKEN TO HEAVEN which means the day was taken to heaven without been SEEN AGAIN.

What is so hard for you to understand here?

Just saying stuff without proofs. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Show me where Luke said this or even add Take to heaven FINALLY?

He teach and preach on earth until he was taken to heaven on a single day.

Emusan:


He can't be TAKEN TO HEAVEN FINALLY IN DAYS it must be ONE DAY

The fact is, that verse was talking about WHEN JESUS WONT BE SEEN AGAIN not that He has not been to HEAVEN.

😂😂😂😂😂😂 Who is your weed plug Emusan?

Until the day he was taken to heaven

That destination is heaven, he wasn't taken there until that single day.

Emusan:


Smile....

Poor understand, he was taken up FINALLY which means He was not going to be SEEN AGAIN.

The DAY

Not DAYS.

If he ascend to heaven at death that make it days. Olodo, that means the spirit that ascend is just breath, not Jesus himself. Olodo

Emusan:


John 16:30, John 21:17

That's not Jesus .

You don't have proof ?

Emusan:

Yet also means "AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME"

So cut the crab!

" In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach 2 until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen.

He was taken up to heaven on a single day , not days , not two days. Mr first ascension and final ascension Lie lie 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Emusan:


I've answered many times.

Did the scripture lie that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS?

Provide where Jesus said he knows all things.

Emusan:


Provide where I said so.

When fact are presented to you people you change mouth.

Even when you called your brother did you see him saying anything?

The fact is, 1 Pet 2:14 was not about believers KNOW ALL THINGS as having the ability of OMNISCIENCE as related to God.
But about Jesus it's about KNOWING ALL THINGS which is OMNISCIENCE.

😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Did Jesus lied when he said he doesn't know at Matthew 24:36?

Emusan:


Now, he is changing mouth

The point is clear no further going around.

Using style to call the Apostles LIAR when that statement was made in THE PRESENCE OF JESUS HIMSELF.

You admitted its Jesus that lied ?

Emusan:


Smile....

You people are just too dull for scriptural knowledge.

Let me use your own NWT to explain to you maybe it will sink this time.

Here is how your NWT put John 16:30 "Now we know that you KNOW ALL THINGS+ and you do not need to have anyone question you.+ By this we believe that you came out from God.”

The plus sign is a reference to John 21:17 where Peter used the same ALL THINGS for Jesus Christ about KNOWING.

But let's see how your NWT translates 1 John 2:20 "And YOU have an anointing* from the holy one;+ all of YOU have knowledge."

If you check other translations some use:
"know the truth"

"all of you understand"

"you all have knowledge"

But compare this to Jesus Christ and see that they all translate it as ALL THINGS OR EVERYTHING

Do you agree with NWT that the followers only HAVE KNOWLEDGE?




No! Man's spirit is a PERSON too that is why the word 'KNOW' was used, inanimate object can't KNOW YOUR THOUGHT.

So, God's Holy Spirit is also a PERSON.

Just agree that inanimate things knows the THOUGHT of your god

A good bible translation could use their judgement in certain matters, it doesn't change the Fact that the Greek word that appeared at 1John 2:20 means all things. Like someone said that it's sad to watch you cling desperately to apostles utterance when Christ already specified he doesn't know certain things. The same way NWT and other translation use their judgement, is the same way you ought to use your judgement to know the apostles statement is made in error since Jesus confirmed there are things the Son doesn't know. If the apostles statement is Correct, Jesus is a liar at Matthew 24:36

Emusan:


But Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS and Him and the Father ARE ONE.

Here in other to use Jesus statement 'I and my Father are One'

People like interpret that to mean Jesus and His Father are one both in THOUGHT AND ACTION.



Yes! We know ALL THINGS concerning the TRUTH of the Gospel which is what the verse is addressing

"Concerning "

Now that Concerning has join the league, concerning the day and hour, did the Son know ? Noooooooo!

Which means no other person can know!!!!

The Holy Holy Spirit is a person and Know the very THOUGHT OF GOD.

To think inanimate things KNOWS the THOUGHT of your god is the greatest inappropriate statement about God, well The Great Yahweh can't be so low that inanimate things will KNOW his THOUGHT

Spirit/breath of man is a force yet it was said to know the thoughts of a man. No difference here.

cc: Barristter07

achorladey:


Here you are......
Jehovah is our father because Jehovah married the heavenly Jerusalem to give birth to Adam.

Provide Jesus offspring while he was on Earth?

See it again.....
Who brought to existence the brothers?

Those 144,000 in the book of revelation your religious organization called Jesus' brothers are they figurative or literal? Who didn't bring them into existence figuratively. Who died figuratively for them. Who didn't empty himself figuratively to live as humans and not ashamed to call them brothers.
He was created just like his brothers yet all other things were created through the instruments or all things came into existence through the instrument, and apart from the instrument not even one thing came into existence(brothers)

This.....

VS......

Do you read ?
John 1:3 says " Apart from him" . Exception, because he was created directly by the Father.


He is a " Firstborn among many brothers "

First born means First to be Born .

In that succession. Others follow till today until whoever will be the last born of creation in heaven and earth.

Generically all are " Sons of God "

A united description of all living creatures born by creation.

achorladey:



Discussion coming to a halt.....

You have the answer already. Isaiah 53:10 states his offspring. Call it literal or figurative or spiritual.

Not one single child was attributed to Jesus while on earth. Neither was he even married.

Who brought to existence the brothers?

Those 144,000 in the book of revelation your religious organization called Jesus' brothers are they figurative or literal? Who didn't bring them into existence figuratively. Who died figuratively for them. Who didn't empty himself figuratively to live as humans and not ashamed to call them brothers.

He was created just like his brothers yet all other things were created through him or all things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.

Who brought to existence the brothers? The one that apart from him not even one thing came to existence is not ashamed to call them brothers.

This is like trying to say your Dad is your creator because you were made through him.

Instrument is not creator!

Creator is the source ( 1Cor 8:6 The Father, from whom all things came )

Many can act as instrument to bring further life, but none is the Creator

If Jesus wasn't created like the Father, he won't have such description as " firstborn " and " Son " .