₦airaland Forum

Sizzorkay:
What's the importance of that region to Nigeria's economy? That's a serious question.
Now imagine if BH/ ISWAP is doing this in Lagos State or Abuja, would the response have been different?
In other words, if there is little economic harm being done, could that be the reason why they show such lack of seriousness.
I don't know, just wondering out loud.
I mean, if this was happening in more economic vibrant regions of the country, they'd be in recession by now, or are they already? ha, have no clue

Sizzorkay:
What on earth are you talking about?
Why are you guys straying from topic, i don't care about the politics of things or what dealing went on in the dark.
My comment was about whether the US military can wipe out the Taliban militarily if they wanted to. Nothing more.
And answer is Yes, if they wanted to, without consideration for the loss of civilian lives or infrastructure.
And unless you live under a rock, I'm sure there is infrastructure in Afghanistan, they don't sleep on sand over there. There are homes, businesses etc, telephone networks, Govt buildings. Schools etc. That's what i meant by infrastructure.

Sizzorkay:
Think he meant Chad, not Nigeria.
As for those saying the US can't defeat the Talis, boy, pray you don't see the full might of the US unleashed on your country.
Only reason groups like the taliban are still around, is to avoid civilian casualties and preserve infrastructure, in other words, the US is using proportional force, if they were to use all they've got, short of nukes, there will be no Afghan left, let alone talibans.
But since they claim to be doing this for the people and perhaps democracy, they can't exactly turn the whole country to ashes.
So their lack of victory isn't due to lack of ability to do so, we would be asking, what's left of Afghanistan as a country after it's been decimated from air. I mean, the US have some hell on earth kind of fire power you even wouldn't wish on your enemy.

Toju200:
this whole operation was a MNJTF ops but mostly Chad...
Mapping was unexpectedly done by Israeli Airforce
Airlift of logistics was done by Chad and Nigeria
Aerial command post-Nigeria
Artillery and Airstrikes Nigeria and chadian helicopters...
Ground offensive Chad....

kabe1:
This makes no sense.

The US entered Afghanistan because 3,000 Americans were killed in 9/11.

The US has the world's largest forward force projection. Whether in Colombus or Kandahar they can deliver the punch.

The US is making the deal with the Taliban because after nearly 20 years of US and NATO military operations in Afghanistan, they have come to the realisation that they cannot win militarily.

kabe1:
Since 2001, more than 775,000 U.S. troops have deployed to Afghanistan, many repeatedly. Of those, 2,300 died there and 20,589 were wounded in action, according to Defense Department figures.

kabe1:
With most speaking on the assumption that their remarks would not become public, U.S. officials acknowledged that their warfighting strategies were fatally flawed

Several of those interviewed described explicit and sustained efforts by the U.S. government to deliberately mislead the public. They said it was common at military headquarters in Kabul — and at the White House — to distort statistics to make it appear the United States was winning the war when that was not the case.

kabe1:
With most speaking on the assumption that their remarks would not become public, U.S. officials acknowledged that their warfighting strategies were fatally flawed

Several of those interviewed described explicit and sustained efforts by the U.S. government to deliberately mislead the public. They said it was common at military headquarters in Kabul — and at the White House — to distort statistics to make it appear the United States was winning the war when that was not the case.

bidexiii:
Like you said based on your own opinion !
Stop deceiving yourself, [/b]“US simply no longer wants to fight not that they can’t win”.[b] where did you get that from or who told you that, infact the US loves to fight war and flex there muscles and it’s in there DNA to fight and history is there to show it.
When the French left Vietnam the US took over to flex there muscles, we all know what happen last last, they withdrew there troops it was a stalemate. Same thing is happening in the Middle East the Russian couldn’t defeat the mujahideen, backed by the United States now the Russians where tired and left. The same thing is happening to the US, they want to make peace with every terrorist there once sponsored.
Infact the Americans & NATO are making the Middle East worst by the day including Lydia, it’s becoming worst by the day even an unstable mind knows that with all there super power.

Dude war is not a game the Americans are tired and have reached there “diminishing law of return” ? Over 18 years and still on battling terrorism globally. Sure some politicians and war mongers, defense contractors wouldn’t want an end to these dirty wars.
But the soldiers who risks the odds are fucking tired

kabe1:
This makes no sense.

The US has the world's largest forward force projection. Whether in Colombus or Kandahar they can deliver the punch.

The US is making the deal with the Taliban because after nearly 20 years of US and NATO military operations in Afghanistan, they have come to the realisation that they cannot win militarily.

BabaOwen:


If is this easy as you're saying it, The Americans won't be signing a peace deal with the Taliban.

With the way things dey go for West Africa now, it will be so hard to conquer all this Islamic terrorist in the Western part of Africa. Even NATO and some other militaries in Mali are not having it easy.

The way i see things, this war is not ending this year or next year or anytime soon. It will take time, what the government can do for now is to let our military always be on the offensive and make sure we don't have troops dying in large numbers.

BlackBaron:
Reverse engineering is more difficult than it sounds. Only few countries (US, China, Russia and ~) have successfully reverse engineered 'high tech'. You need to have lots of advanced industries and research institutes at your disposal for a start.
Its better to start production under licence, then learn from that.

gidgiddy:
Irrefutable historical facts

gidgiddy:
The British officers at Kaduna kept wondering what an Oxford graduate was doing as a private in the Army and sent him for officers course in England. Ojukwu returned in 1957 and was commissioned a second Lieutenant, the first graduate to join the Nigerian Army.

Ojukwu rose rapidly through the Army. He was promoted to Lieutenant in 1958, Captain in 1960, Major in 1962 and Lieutenant Colonel in 1964.

Ojukwu was commander of the 4th battalion, Kano, when the first coup happened in January 1966.

As the coup unfolded, Major Nzeogwu called on Ojukwu to join the coup to which Ojukwu refused. Ojukwus refusal to join Nzeogwu is one of the major reasons why Nzeogwu's coup eventually failed.

General Ironsi then siezed power and appointed Ojukwu Military Governor of the Eastern Region.

6 months later, mid-level officers of the Nigerian of Northern extraction conducted a coup that led to the overthrow and killing of Ironsi, and the installment of Lt Yakubu Gowon as head of state. The coup also greenlighted a pogrom in which over 30,000 Easterners, mainly Igbos, were killed all over Nigeria, particularly in the North.

The inability of Gowon to stop the killings, the resentment in the Eastern Region against his government and the fact that Ojukwu was senior to Gowon caused bad blood between both men

The crisis became so bad that the then President of Ghana, General Joe Ankrah, intervened and invited both Gowon and Ojukwu to his Hiltop Mansion in Aburi, Ghana, for peace talks in January of 1967.

After two days of discussions, Ojukwu and Gowon signed an agreement that was to be known as the Aburi Accord.

A few months after their return from Ghana, Gowon broke the Aburi accord they signed by issuing decree 14 of 1967 which abolished all the 4 Regions, created 12 states, reversed the fical federalism practiced, changed the revenue sharing formular, all in a bid to increase the power of the North over the rest of Nigeria

For Ojukwu, it was the last straw. Ojukwu convened the Eastern Nigerian Consultative Forum, a body that comprised of all the chiefs and head of the 20 provinces that made up the Eastern Region. They sat and discussed for 2 days and mandated Ojukwu to declare the Eastern Region a separate country. On the 30th of May 1967, Ojukwu declared the Eastern Region a separate country called the Republic of Biafra.

In retaliation, Gowon declared war. The war raged on for 3 years and ended in January 1970 with Ojukwu handing over to his deputy, General Effiong, flying into exile in Ivory Coast and the subsequent surrender of Biafra.

Ojukwu later returned from exile 12 years later. He died in London in 2011 aged 78. His burial remains the greatest ever witnessed in Nigeria

Ojukwu is still revered by most Igbos because they believe he fought for their freedom.

Gnaeusmagnus:
The issues arising

1. Siemens is not going to come in and charge bills below the production price , so bills go up. Siemens is also not coming to invest in Nigeria sans profit.

2. Discos will expect to be compensated for being forced out of the business for Siemens.

3. Expect higher bills, but improvement in power supply

Modified

Thanks for all the mentions. Have had some interesting discussions downthread,and for once, people are discussing without adverse language!

All the info I have about discos and gencos and power comes from several years of reading sparked by GEJ privatising power and issues I had getting a meter for my then place of residence (ended up still being on estimated till i moved house to a metered place!),and other life experiences

I have to go now, life calls. Thanks.

Jimi24:
I was not knocking defence procurement. I was making valid points against expensive, gold plated hardware coming from advanced countries that dont close threat gaps or are not relevant to the theatre. Buying stuff to compensate for a lack of training, doctrine OR skills country's army. Iraq and Libya each had more tanks than W..Germany at some point in the 90s for instance yet Libya was serially losing to Chadian forces. Iraq was given bloody noses by an Iran under sanctions. Iraq-Iran war ended as a draw militarily but since Iran now controls majority Shiite govt in Iraq, we know who really won.

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Mcowubaba:
OK.. I'm not arguing or interested in where the error originated from...

All I'm saying and have been saying is that the OP is not to be blamed for uploading the false image..

And BTW, what makes you think the google images are linked to nairaland and Nigerian website where the error originated from
How explain further

My Google is not Google.ng...
And the first 5 results in my search are not NIGERIAN websites to the best of my knowledge

This are the first 3 website results

https://www.israelrising.com/bruce-mayrock-hebrew-roots-free-biafra-movement/

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kabe1:
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kabe1:
Syria is another country that receives a lot of arms in secret.

nemesis8u:
I don't understand these childish illusions on secrecy relating to arms deal / procurement

When is a arms deal considered secret ?

If forumers / bloggers / media don't know about it ?

Or

If concerned intelligence orgs / relevant orgs don't know about it ?

I find it funny that people think if something is not out in the open , they consider it to be secret.

Really then what is the job of intelligence orgs and what they know about , certainly they won't blurt it out in public and expose their knowledge / sources.

Situation here is same as a ostrich putting its head in the sand and convincing itself of what it wants to believe. Since i dont know hence nobody knows.

A primary function of any nations external intelligence is to keep track of arms deals of other countries hostile or in geographical proximity to it.

Aircrafts and ships loading unloading stuff in any country under the watch of satellites and even without satellites does not leave much room for secrecy for those in the business of minding others business .

kabe1:
This is not true.

Algeria, Egypt and Venezuela are countries who routinely receive equipment confidentiality.

Egyptian Air Defence system deliveries are usually not known until you see them used in exercises, including Algeria.

The whole world only knew about Nigeria CH-3 UCAV when it crashed. Before that it was a secret delivery.

rka2:
They might tell you an African country has ordered a particular piece of equipment but don't always disclose the country until just before delivery etc. Don't tell me you have never come across this?

rka2:
Yeah! eventually, but not if there is an initial non-disclosure clause of who the client is when ordered.

FreelanceRebel:
Should US tried to send their F-16 in Nigeria Airspace, the Chengdu-F7 is capable of intercepting it. The Fishcan may not be able to out-gun the US F-16, but sure can out-run and out-manoeuvre it.

Nigeria Airforce is not a Shitty Airforce, they don't just have enough birds in the sky