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patwilly:
Quick question folks, I read about French bases all around Nigeria especially in francophone countries around us, the question is, Why do the British not have similar bases in Africa or around the world like the Americans? is it that its not part of British foreign policy or is Britain no longer the power it once was? Your thoughts on this please.
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Eta22seconds:
Terminating their contract was the worst thing that happened in the war against Terror. They would have built a mobile lightening Force capable of hitting hard and fast. That force could have been the first line of defense.

dragon2:
komekn(m): 9:09pm On May 14

You miss the point completely, the embraer aircraft in its basic form is simply a turboprop aircraft everything is a retrofit to make it the A29. It was made not as fighter at its initiation. That attribute was added much later.

dragon2(m): 10:43pm On May 14
The tucano was built from day one as a military aircraft. The first aircraft was called tucano emb 301 and emb 311. The proposal was to the Brazilian AF.


komekn(m): 8:54pm On May 16
The Embraer was built as a military training aircraft, absolutely correct. What's the particular point in that❓

Don't confuse yourself.
Emb 311 and 312 was designed from day one for counter insurgency and was not a simple turboprop as you suggested to which I replied .

....komekn.
There are so many aircraft, indeed the Alpha Jet was instituted as a trainer. Buy today it's probably out most effective and dependable ground attack asset over the decades. Yet it was essentially a training aircraft at inception....

Alpha jet was designed to handle light attack none was a retrofit from basic.

ugo4u:
Thats because they're well equipped and have the best of technology and equipments at their disposal. If such level of investment on Abba Kyari and his unit is replicated in all police formation, or at least across say one unit in each geo-political zone there is no operation he is doing now that won't be done efficiently.
Forget that we always abuse the Police, they have very brilliant & dedicated personnel it's just that most of them are handicapped wrt access to the right tools to carryout their job.

komekn:
That's a very well articulated view by the former USAF Col. from his perspective but as an intellectual document of proven fact it falls short of the mark without substantiation of the assumptions he makes on cost and low altitude flight risk. Further alternative options are not looked at particularly the impact of UAV's in Close Air Support Capability.

But its context is not relevant to the Nigerian situation as the USAF had entirely different cost parameters and air combat strategies to Nigeria, it is really an irrelevance. Nonetheless, maybe we can learn something from the Col. entirely USAF related position and deduction.

This is what i prefer an intellectual approach as opposed to wild assumption birthed from our own prejudices and or preferences.

There is considerable commissioned research the US by the Army Quadrennial Defense Review (QDR) and the USAF in this area that is far more substantive than that of a singular USAF colonel. I have read quite a few 40+ page documents many of them.

In some regards it becomes the more you know the less you you understand to make a decision.

Majority is not necessarily right, but what is established beyond all doubt is that light attack turboprop air frames constitute less than 1% of all NATO attack aircraft. That in itself says something.

A key issue is cost, particularly in the context of Nigeria What is high cost and what is low cost how are we coming to that conclusion by assumption or by comparison analysis.

For instance a brand new comparable single engine turboprop aircraft of similar capacity and or even higher performance such as the Swiss PC21 which costs under $4.5 million per unit. Indeed the Spanish air force bought 24 military spec. for under $185 million or thereabouts. Quite shockingly pilots have transited from the PC-21 straight to the F18. What will it cost to retrofit additional weapon systems ISTAR Capabilities not a huge amount IMO.

This is food for thought for those who want to have a solution led approach and a red flag to angry bulls who find questioning and or even appraising NAF procurement decisions an act of high treason. The choice is yours is this best value or not.

komekn:
I am not offended in the least.

To date you have NEVER CONTENDED WITH THE FACTS with anything of substance just name calling. Disagree with me by all means but be methodical, structured, objective and with balanced reasoning. But you do none of these things, I do not know how educated you are if at all you went beyond high school, either way it shows.

You think by vitriolic rhetoric and name calling you present a substansive argument. why do you EVADE the subject completely Maybe you lack that basic skill set to have a discourse based on substance and logical reasoning.

With regards to your comments i suggest you look at the mirror and you will find the test subject you describe looking at you.

youghs:
Can you please explain the reason NA doesn't put a tracker in its vehicles so they can be able to recover or even destroy them when they are captured.

rka2:
I am laughing in Spanish because Yankee don't know what they are doing, abi? Waste of their taxpayers money . They don't know what they are doing when they can use high end 5th gen fighters that cost tens of thousands of dollars an hour to hunt rag heads and provide close air support to their troops

After all, the rag heads will just shoot them down

komekn:
If Indeed what you are saying is TRUE.

We say "the proof is in pudding" What % of USAF assets are A29 Tucano, let's make it easier how
many A29 are in the USAF inventory❓ Now compare that to all the other assets F16, F18, F15, F22, etc. There the answer to your question.

I presented a verbatim statement by the head of the USAF. He makes it very clear what the purpose of the A29 is. I am not arguing with you rather you have evaded and denied the facts to pursue a narrative that is simply not true.

The Embraer EMB 314 is a turboprop single engined light aircraft retro fitted with all the avionics, ISTAR and weapon systems to make it what it is the A29.

Is it the fastest most reliable single engined turboprop aircraft❓ No it is not. In that regard any turboprop aircraft can be retrofitted to carry our that role. Most definitely at a fraction of the cost we have paid.

After looking at its associated weaponry in the over priced contract. I noticed there were no ATGM's. But rather guided rockets which probably be the ones made by BAE systems that most NATO allies use.

That's a BIG PROBLEM it really takes away all the unique points of advantage this aircraft has without them.

These rockets have a range of about 2km in my understanding. That means the A29 will have to fly at much lower altitude well below 3000 ft and much closer proximity to the enemy and be in the direct range of Boko AA gun trucks. With its noisy turboprop engines.

Not a good idea IMO.

Finally, how many NATO and USA partners use this aircraft that's is the number one COIN aircraft in the world according too many here.

What is amazing l have been accused of misinformation and disinformation by many here.

ugo4u:
Forget about US protection, those guys are good when it comes to warfare and when I mean warfare am talking about the total package ranging from proxy wars, planning, execution, funding etc. They're that good, the pogrom in Europe taught them a very bitter lesson. America or no America if you poke their eye, you'll be eliminated.

FeliciaOja:
My dad was watching channels tv when VP Osibanjo made a video call and was taliking with the anchor.

My dad has been a cardiologist for 30+ years and he says just looking at Osibanjo face reveal that he just suffered stroke on his right side...

Looking at the video very well He pointed out these signs
1. Osibanjo right face looks duller and non responsive than his left side of his face.

2. His mouth on the right side is sloppy but on the left side is okay.

Pay Attention to the Right Side of his face.. Patient that Survive Stroke always have one side of the face duller than the other side.
Here is the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y45CxEBFMlQ

I hope he gets well soon..

blacKDalia:
One of the best alternatives we've is the tucano, ready at all times responding to own military distress call. My only misgiving about the tucano deal is the time of delivery, which doesn't show the exigency in the North East and seriousness of the top military hierarchy.

komekn:
You are fixated with your view not with facts, substance and or rational, you really come across like a politician who evades all substance in favour of misrepresentation mixed with conjecture , to call it an opinion implies substance it is simply a view. Like a typical politician, you avoid the substance and highlight the suggestive, you adopt argument over appraisal and conclude with the whimsical.

Your personal self-birthed perception does not create the definition of a word, you have used the word disinformation and gloating to describe my write up. Let me remind you, disinformation refers to false or misleading information and to gloat is to derive malignant pleasure. I do neither.

You delight in arguement and rancour that is the DNA of a politician and proving yourself as the winner even if it is deluded your singular quest.

That is not the purpose of this forum and this particular discourse you have deviated so far from the core critical question in your personal quest to prove, I do not know what You are derailing matters and murdering balanced discussion. Lets take quite a few steps back to the critical core question, i reiterate, "Best value and the most efficient use of resources for the greatest impact in the NE"

Now hopefully you would have had cool ice cold drink of coca cola to cool your hot head down, and hopefully a smile now ask yourself have you addressed any of the items, questions and or issues in that core subject question


In the bold you allude to the core question albeit very slightly but do not address it directly or with a substantive approach . Now once again I implore you to look at what you have written with a cool head. Consider what you have written, "NATO said it's role doesn't fit their battlefield doctrine" So if an air frame does not meet the particular requirements of my air force delivery strategy, that air craft is not fit for my purposes, i.e. not fit for purpose According to you i quote you verbatim, "thats a concocted rubbish you made up" Do you know you are effectively confirming my substansive view. You claim that I am confusing myself, now with your head bowed down look in the mirror, and ask yourself, Who is confused

Everything else you have said is befuddled delusion in your misguided quest to prove, I do not know It is ignominious deviation from the core subject question, nonetheless I will indulge you.

For instance if NATO thought the A10 was so good why did nobody not one NATO procure this aircraft

You introduced the comparison of the $115k USA missile creating a unit of comparable measurement for cost benefit analysis but you have decided to completely avoid this in considering short and long term sustainability for the A29 in comparison to the Wing Loong II UAV and other alternative options with regards to the $600 million total package procurement price . I wonder why

I was specific, measured, with a structured methodology of cost and substantively rational under the heading of Best value and the most efficient use of resources for the greatest impact in the NE. You have not reciprocated but rather have chosen to be insultingly dismissive.

NATO declined procurement of the A10 as being not fir for purpose. At the time there was unequivocal agreement that the A10 was not better than the existing NATO assets and that included the Jaguar, Mirage and F16'S. That there other precision weaponry that could be brought to the conflict that was more efficient for close support such as with attack , helicopters and guided munitions.

komekn:
My post that addressed this muddle of misinformation and propositions under pinned simply by your self birthed presumptions was addressed by me quite some time ago. However, for reasons unknown that post has gone missing.

The analogy of the Qassem Soleiman brazen assassination by the USA with its MQ-9 Reaper UAV, is in generalist terms to highlight the efficacy of UAV in precision attacks. The Chinese Wing Loong II UAV is not as good but retains for the price outstanding attributes of which the Chinese not me claim to compete with the $30 million MQ-9. ( that is over hype to me) So that comparison is dubiously misleading and not part of the original discourse. The reference to the MQ-9 by me is indicative generalist and not specific related.

The original discourse centers on the question of "Best value and the most efficient use of resources for the greatest impact in the NE" You can have a short term and long term view.

In that context the comparison was made by cost and delivery outcome impact of Wing Loong II against IMO overpriced and limited value A29 Tucano.

The unit cost of Wing Loong II is approximately $1million and the approximate unit cost of the A29 in excess of $33 million excluding all the contract add ons for the $600 million contract procurement package. Effectively means procurement unit cost of one A29 is equivalent to over 30 Wing Loong II UAV's

You created inadvertently a unit of measurement with your factitious comparison of price of precision munitions Specifically the $115K USA missiles you create even more questions about the A29 sustainability over the short term and long term.

However going back to the inception false premise, that the A29 is the best air frame for COIN , thats simply not true. The role of the A29 in current and past USAF operations in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria, is essentially non existent in comparison to other USAF assets deployed. This is a fallacy a outcome delivery of deceptive marketing targeted to inconsequential associate nations.

NATO declined procurement of the A10 as being not fir for purpose. At the time there was unequivocal agreement that the A10 was not better than the existing NATO assets and that included the Jaguar, Mirage and F16'S. That there other precision weaponry that could be brought to the conflict that was more efficient for close support such as with attack , helicopters and guided munitions.

The word COIN is the very fluid it is not some concept that is rigid, particular and exact, it really is very broad, so you are misleading yourself.

In this day and age nobody is strafing ground targets at low altitude with 30 mm cannon fire in support of ground troops. In these engagement there is close proximity and the danger of friendly fire is too high, i.e. blue on blue. Add to that if you fly the A29 at that low altitude it will be a target AA fire. As a consequence the A29 relies entirely on it precision weaponry for the efficiency of its strikes against enemy targets not nose diving gun trucks this isn't WW2.

Now you have made this rod for your own back, how much are the expensive ATGM's, laser guided bombs, etc that the A29 uses according to you $115k a pop. When the first batch of bombs are used up, will we have the $$$ to buy more Is that long term sustainable

The MQ-9 is $30 Milion and the Wing Loong II is $1 Million, its reasonable to project that the precision weaponry ATGM, Lazer guided bombs, etc will be a mere fraction of the cost of the USA similar ones and as usual way over priced.

As a result we will start attaching non adaptable munitions with no precision targeting to the A29 because we cant afford the expensive USA procured ones, then all the associated service costs of replacement parts and avionics updates, etc will make this plane almost useless. Within 4 years there will be all kinds of queries and allegations. It will end up being a liability if we are not careful and not better than the Alpha and F7's for the role we procured it for.

Boko dont have the technology to hit at high altitude aircraft so the possibility of an A29 or a Wing Loong II being shot down is almost no existent. So whenever this war ends we will still need surveillance in the sky.

Currently we should have 24/7 365 complete surveillance of the NE only a UAV can give you that one that has an endurance of 32 hours compared to 6 hours for a A29. The cost of 2 A29's gives us 60 +Wing Loong II UAV's that means short term and long term we can have coverage over the national maritime waters and beyond. That is long term sustainability. In addition the cost of keeping that UAV in the air for 24 hours plus much much cheaper than the A29.

The USA has no regard for Nigeria, the people yes maybe but the leadership a big NO. Why that is a never ending debate, which includes corruption. Now if they dont value us why on earth are we partnering with them, for goodness sake. Marriage is not by force, if USA will not marry us France, Germany, Russia, Ukraine , etc no deh. Essentially if the USA will not consider us a strategic partner then we find somebody who will.

It is a very pertinent point the USA does not use this aircraft in any significant way. None of its serious or valued partners use who are fighting COIN wars at different intensities. But some how, many on this forum think it is a great solution for the NE . What the NE needs is surveillance but the right commodification infrastructure and a 1000+ more fir for purpose armoured vehicles to enable combatants have the capacity to engage the enemy.

Finally a verbatim statement from Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein that tells the story of the A29 in a nutshell if you read between the lines.

"Our focus is on how a light attack aircraft can help our allies and partners as they confront violent extremism and conduct operations within their borders," Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein said in the release. "Continuing this experiment, using the authorities Congress has provided, gives us the opportunity to put a small number of aircraft through the paces and work with partner nations on ways in which smaller, affordable aircraft like these can support their air forces."

Loads of disinformation, you were gloating over the Soleimani hit to buttress the efficacy of the Chinese drones before I murdered your position with a proper cost analysis, thats what debates are for, we cross fertilize ideas, so there is no shame in admitting you screwed up with that example.

NATO never said the A10 Warthog is not fit for purpose, thats a concocted rubbish you made up, NATO said it's role doesn't fit their battlefield doctrine, NATO allies dont do US type of CAS, they prefer Battlefield Air interdiction normally done away from friendlies.

As a matter of fact, when the European threat environment evolved due to Russian aggression, Nato members requested for the A10 warthog & they were glad it came to do the job it does best.
enlighten yourself here: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/06/17/us-allies-happy-to-have-a10-warthogs-back-in-europe-airmen-say.html

USAF planned to decommission the Warthog in 2019, congress refused, approved $333m for their missions later DOD awarded another $900m contract to Boeing to replace aging wings, so those beasts are in service till 2030 or 40.

Again you are misleading yourself, A29 doesn't straff its guns on AA's or in an AA threat environment, there is a reason it has ISR capability, it takes out the big guns first from a distance then straff the light arms.
That's the US strategy for the Warthog as well, take out the big guns with Maverick AGM then straff.
Conversely, if you believe A29 30mm guns will create blue on blue, how come you are recommending Wingloong 2 that throws Arrow 7 missiles? you are confused.

Go back and read what I wrote on the $115k per pop, and NAF being on low budget, again you are confusing yourself.

BlackBaron:
Tsaigumi has never been shown conducting reconnaissance since commissioning. I'll eat my hat if Ichoku is anything closer to reality than words they keep releasing.

Some of the drones able to do their work efficiently rely on IP, technology and patents we don't even seem to have access to. We could get there via R& D but takes significant money, years of experience and the best brains.

komekn:
I responded to this quite comprehensively days ago, but it seems to have got lost in cyberspace.

Using comparative cost analysis both capital and recurrent to show the A29 not to be long term viable for the NAF, and the limited use of the A29 that will play out in the long term over the recurrent cost barriers.

komekn:
What is the co-relationship between training NAF fighter pilots and piloting a UAV that is a non question, doesn't make any sense.

Your second question, I will respond with recent devastating example of the efficacy of UAV when it comes to stealth precision attacks with the target completely oblivious. Consider General Qasem Soleimani, taken out with a precision hit by a alleged Reaper drone. Can the very noisy A29 Turbo Prop hover in the air at 30,000ft + and hover around patiently for 30 hours, waiting patiently to strike. No it cannot. Do you think if Turkey had sent in A29 to deal with the Syrian army in Idlib they would have been so overwhelmingly successful.

Thinking long term which of these planes is easier to shoot down, the noisy A29 or the near Silent drones, particularly for insurgents and thier obligatory AA guns on their pickups. Consider if you shoot down a cheap $1million Wing Loong II UAV, nobody dies you walk away no tears you buy another one, nuttin spoil. You shoot down an A29 there will be plenty tears, furthermore with a unit cost in excess of $30 million +that is a big loss.

What is best value, one A29 against the 25+ Wing Loong II UAV, its what we call a , "NO BRAINER" The UAV is the future and the A29 competes with WW2 Mustangs of the USAF its realy a historical relic updated to meet modern day needs in the short term as a cheap alternative. But we paid G wagon money for a toyota corolla , it feels like the Yankees have given us a big Yahoo, and we fall hook, line & sinker.

It is as obvious as DAYLIGHT the USA sells these overpriced frames to insignificant low valued partners at off the scale ridiculous prices. Do you see Egypt, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Isreal, not even Pakistan their strategic valued partners using A29, not one of them, they are using F16's at the very least.

I consider the offer of the A29's as a diplomatic blatant rebuff by the USA to Nigeria it says we dont rate or value you. If the USA will not sell something better to us what about France, Germany , Russia, Sweden, etc

You claim to be analyzing best value for money but conveniently skipped training
Which value for money does your UCAV add in that regards?

Where will you get the opportunity for a Soleimani kinda hit in an assymetric warfare the type we are fighting in NE? You just compared apples with potatoes, NAF needs to provide close air support for long hrs and run ISR while at it, agreed your UCAV can run ISR but can it give close air support without throwing expensive precision missiles? if your answer is no, then how is that best value for money?
A-29 can gladly straff its guns when NAF is on low budget to fire expensive precision missiles where does that fall into your best value for money analysis?
Soleimani was killed with 2 nos $115k missiles, is that the best value for money for NAF with less than $250m annual budget?


During and after this war, Nigeria's battle theater will be majorly in Civilian population not a Turkey vs Syrian army kinda war, again you compare apples with candy, you sincerely think we will have the luxury of throwing smart bombs around? at what cost? A group of cattle rustlers in Sokoto or a group of pipeline vandals in the Niger delta creek, you waste GB3 250 kg laser-guided bomb on them plus collateral damages that can land you a global sanction? really? you call that best value for money?

You said A-29 is easy to shoot down at nearly 600km/hr speed, meanwhile you recommend a drone of 370km/hr top speed as your so called best value for money apparently, you have no clue why several better drones have been lost in Libya.

Speaking of shooting down A-29, it operates beyond the reach of ISWAP AA guns and it engages targets within the same distance so your analysis is baseless, your AA can't shoot down what you can't see.

US strategic partners have privileges you dont, while they can get strategic assets, from the US you cant so you are living in a dream.
Jonathan's handlers once had that dream of owning a Chinook, we know how he woke up from that dream, repeating Jonathan's dream is silly.
F16 is not exactly a COIN aircraft so when next you want to make smart comparisons, use the Air Tractor or Warthog to compare with the Tucano, US will not sell Warthog to Nigeria, has never sold it not even to allies so we fall back again to the Tucano as the smartest choice.

blacKDalia:
A GUI is a small part of an operating system and not the OS itself as a whole.

Whyem15:
He is actually right. All US storage facilities are filled up and drillers are willing to offer money to get their oil stored up. It is only the US shale that has fallen beyond zero. This partivular type of oil is produced in the US
You can correct people or make your point without insulting others. It's not hard at all, I just did it.
This applies to everyone contributing here, we are all adults, let's behave like it. No name calling or insults. And should in case someone decides to troll, just ignore. This is an appeal.

bidex111:
Nigerian born astrophysicist who designs and builds drones for the US military , and has 7 masters degree is reported to have bagged his 4th Ph.D. degree. Mr Osemwengie is the founder of Open Robotics University in America.

bidex111:
I can see throughly you have military personnel has friends giving the gist of what happened in some part of the theaters.
During the dark days, even has CO’s officers you have to participate in the digging somehow to show commitment and sympathy to troops under your command before we started having excavators.
But the part of your gist are not true !! Like these part stating: “Although I heard the barb wire fence messed Soldiers trying to withdraw during the 2018 Metele attack”. Show me a F.O.B with a barb wire in the North East theatre .

seankafor:
Who has watched the movie..the longest war

It's a documentary on the American war in Afghanistan..

All I can say is that.. terrorism is way more hard and complex than war itself..

[b]American war in Afghanistan was a total failure[b]

lebuhsi:
The oil cuts ain't scheduled to happen till next month, with how chaotic today has been for the us oil market...trump would definitely be on the phone to push up the commencement date for the cuts, with the way things are going, even the over 9mb/day cuts wouldn't be enough
Trump just said he'll pay oil companies in the U.s to keep the taps shut, they'll be considered as U.s strategic reserves.
Just to clarify, Nigeria also sales at a discount so instead of selling at the Brent crude benchmark, we sale at OPEC basket prices, so a little bit above $17/b

nemesis8u:
Oil prices

It is not even zero dollars , it is negative 14 dollars per barrel

It means now seller will need to pay the buyer to buy the oil

komekn:
People should not get stuck up on definitions they are fluid and are determined by the use you put the particular asset too.,

If something can be modified then it can be used for whatever you decide too use it for, that makes it multi use and therefore multi role.

With regard to Sepecat Jaguar , probably the best set of air craft the NAF have ever acquired in recent times all 18.

However, our military has always from inception been cursed with political wranglings, tribalism and religious discrimination, the British started it as a means to prevent the south from agitating for independence.

But back to recent times, the suspicion of coup and counter coup created deep mistrust as well as undue paranoia with the senior officers. The NAF as well as the Navy required a certain degree of academic excellence and knowledge for progression. As a consequence the ability to flood the NAF and or the Navy with your own kinsmen in the past was limited.

There was a coup planned against Babangida in which NAF officers was heavily involved. They were in their positions by merit. Babangida could not control or manipulate the NAF. So he essentially rendered it impotent and the first victims were the Jaguars which they feared so much. A group of technicians came from India years back to do some assessment in civilian times and were shocked at how the aircraft were in such good condition. The all had very flight hours comparative to their ages. I expected the NAF to revive those airframes (for small money) which are still better than those Chinese rebadged Mig 21's we bought for stupid money IMO. Thankfully we are leaving those dark days behind. Unfortunately have not been able to deal with corruption completely.

It is the same historic mentality that has plagued the NPF, it seems the only weapon they have are assault rifles. Police forces across the world are equipped with MRAPS, HMG , Grenade launchers and multiple heavy to light weapons. But the fear that the NPF would therefore be equpped to stop the NA from carrying out coups or limiting the NA influence has seen that tent continue.

Because in all honesty the Mobile police force should be equipped with HMG, LAV, RPG7, Multiple light weapons Sniper rifles, and should be able to contend with BOKO. The police many a time are outgunned by criminals and why have their weapons not been upgraded to reflect the current threat levels bot with bandits and terrorists. That would free up the NA to concentrate on its core task.

komekn:
There are a few who have been shouting very loudly that the A29 is the game changer in COIN warfare. And even quite a few who have erroneously agreed.

My approach is very simple, "Best Value" and greatest impact / outcome delivery from limited resources.

I said the future is " Attack UAV'S" that give you 24 hour endurance without the enemy even knowing and then you can eliminate him clinically with almost zero risk to air force personal. They are now the game changer.

Wing Loong II is an attack UAV that has some impressive statistics. 24 hour endurance, 1500km range and a 500kg payload of multiple smart and precision ordinances, missiles, etc There is no hiding place daytime or nightime.

How many UAV 's do we need to have total and complete 24 hour coverage of the NE theatre and with over watch of our very gallant soldiers.❓❓ ❓.

My projection at least 35 Wing Loong II UAV will do the job. But to be absolutely sure l would procure 50.


Now some of you not all will even shocked at the procurement cost.

$1million per unit, that's $50 million for 50 Chinese Wing Loong II attack UAV now compare that to the total per unit procurement package cost of one turboprop A29, which is $50 million.

Now with your eyes � open which would you rather have. ❓ ❓ l find some of our decisions baffling and the allegations of zero will to end this cash cow war, begin to have some credence.

With 50 UAV or effectively 20+ combing the skies at 8000 ft, at any one time, unknown Boko. Not one of thier gun trucks will be able to operate without being roasted, indeed they will have not be able to have any. It means where 2/3 Boko gather we will know. There will be nothing like suprise attack on any NA base or convoys and or convoys of Boko gun trucks running with reckless abandon across the NE. That's for the entire NE theatre.

See below for substantiation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omU_olbV3gc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTr_zPbvELU

Frankdoz8:
Remembering Bruce Mayrock, The American Student Who Set Himself on Fire Over Biafran Genocide
''Peace is where there is an absence of fear of any kind.'' Bruce Mayrock (1970)
A popular saying among the Igbos goes thus: "The fowl does not forget whomever that provides warmth for it during the rainy days." This proverb illustrates the importance of gratitude and appreciation because an act of goodness is difficult to come by.
The Biafran war (1967-1970) might have come and gone but it surely goes down in the annals of Nigeria as the bloodiest genocide ever. It accounted for the decimation of over three million innocent Nigerians who are mostly Igbos. However, the Igbos in remembering their hereos will certainly not forget the 20-year old American student who immolated himself because of the plight of Biafra.
Bruce Mayrock, born May 6, 1949 in Westbury, New York was a Photographer and student of Columbia University. He was twenty years old when he burnt himself to death at the precincts of the United Nations Building Headquarters in protest against the 1967-1970 Biafra Genocide.

Carrying a Placard which the front side read:

"YOU MUST STOP GENOCIDE! PLEASE SAVE NINE MILLION BIAFRANS."
Bruce Mayrock bathed himself with a flammable liquid on the lawn outside the UN building just before 3pm and lit up himself with fire.
He was being frazzled up when two United Nations guard spotted him and ran down to him with fire extinguishers but Mayrock wanted to die. He ran away from them in pains, sprinting to the northern Lounge of the building before several hundred petrified delegates and onlookers. Mayrock finally fell to his knees beside the Evgeniy Vuchetich's sculpted bronze statue that represents the human wish to end all wars. The statue bears the slogan: "Let Us Beat Swords Into Plowshares."
Mayrock had already frazzled up and rushed to Bellevue Hospital Center in critical condition. Sadly, Mayrock could not make it as he passed away in the early hours of May 30, 1969. He had hitherto carried out peaceful remonstration against the war. He equally wrote letters about the war to the U.S. President and leading government officials which were unreplied.

The back side of the Placard read:

"Peace is where there is an absence of fear of any kind."
Mayrock before his self-immolation was devastated over the pathetic sight of Kwashiorkor-stricken Biafran children; the gory images of dead Biafran Soldiers and the general destruction and wreckage of Biafran land. What perturbed him the most was that people were being exterminated but his country was passive and unconcerned. Maybe, they were blacks. Let them kill and bury themselves there.
Mayrock had graduated with First Class from Yeshivah College and was a student of the Jewish Theological Seminary of America as well as Columbia University. He worked as a Photographer for the Columbian Daily Spectator and had previously studied at Hofstra University. He was buried in Mount Ararat Cemetery, Suffolk County, New York. M. Larina, another American created a Grave memorial page for him on September 24, 2006.
In a passionate tribute to Mayrock, Uche Henry Iwuanyanwu, an Igbo essayist wrote that Mayrock took his own life for his People he never met.
Well, it is unfortunate that Mayrock today is not even known by majority of the Eastern people of Nigeria for whom he died for. This thus calls for a very brilliant research and a documentary made on his behalf in order to stamp his memory on the sands of times.
Just like the Israeltimes wrote: "Bruce Mayrock maybe have killed himself, but his immolation revealed the deep despair that was occurring in his heart, witnessing another genocide of a Hebrew people, so shortly after the European Holocaust. Freeing Biafra and the Igbo from their cultural, spiritual, and political occupation is a cause the Jewish world must take on themselves both as a rectification of the past and a need to restore a more complete Israelite and Jewish nation."

BIAFRA UNKNOWN HERO:- Bruce Mayrock is his name. Bruce Mayrock was a Columbia University Student,
20years of age from old westbury, New York.
Bruce Mayrock burnt himself to death on the lawn of the United Nation’s building Headquarters to protest against the genocide been committed during the Nigeria-Biafra war with a big sign that reads!
”YOU MUST STOP GENOCIDE! Please Save Nine Million Biafrans”.hero on fire 2

Bruce Mayrock died about nine hours after he set himself ablaze.

Bruce Mayrock was born may6, 1949 and he took his own life for people whom he never met before in may 30, 1969.

Two United Nations guards spotted the flames and chased the youth across the lawn with fire extinguisher. But Mayrock eluded the guards, racing in front of the North Lounge of the building before several hundred horrified delegates and onlookers. The student finally fell to his knees beside a statue bearing the Biblical inscription “Let us beat our swords into plowshares * and the guards extinguished the flames. Mayrock was rushed to ßellevue Hospital where he was listed in critical condition with burns over most of his body and was pronounced dead shortly after midnight. At the U.N., guards found a large cardboard sign on the front lawn which said, “You must stop the genocide–please save 9 million Biafrans.” At the bottom of the sign, a quotation read, “Peace is where there is an absence of fear of any kind.” hero on fire.

In past years, two other persons have immolated themselves in front of the U.N. Both died of their burns. Mayrock, who lived in Westbury, L.1., enrolled in GS and the Jewish Theological Seminary in September, 1967, but dropped out after one year and studied briefly at Hofstra University. He re-enrolled at GS last January. While at Columbia, Mayrock worked as a photographer for the Spectator sports department. Members of the youth’s family stated Friday that he had worked’ actively to protest the war in Biafra, writing letters about the war to the President and leading government figures. However, according to one rabbi, ‘ who said he was close to the family, the student believed that “no one was listening.” “He was an idealistic young man deeply upset by the events in Biafra,” the rabbi said. “People were being killed and he felt no one was doing anything. That’s why he did what he did.”


Source:http://www.africanews247.com/biafra-hero-20years-old-man-set-ablaze-united-nations-building-protesting-genocide-biafrans/

Stinson007:
In 1969, when the world ignored the injustice meted on Biafra men and women mostly the iboes, one of Biafras foreign patriot burned himself to death to protest the silence of the world when America and the British joined forces to subdue a common enemy. In Honor of this Hero, whose death brought global empathy

SAHACO:
BIAFRA HEROES DAY: BRUCE MAYROCK "THE HERO IN FLAMES"

"PEACE IS WHERE THERE IS AN ABSENCE OF FEAR OF ANY KIND" - the inscription found on the back side of the placard Bruce Mayrock carried protesting against the 1967- 1970 Biafra Genocide in front of the United Nations Building Headquarter.
The CBS Evening News for Thursday May 29, 1969 had the headline: Columbia / Immolation, the reportage came from their studio saying " Near United Nations building, Columbia University student Bruce Mayrock sets self on fire to protest Biafra war and the genocide committed by the Nigeria side. Bruce is currently hospitalized."
"Martyr" Bruce Mayrock died shortly after midnight of May 30th,1970. He died for Biafrans who he never knew or has ever met, the pictures of Biafra genocide he had seen drove him to sacrifice his life to attract humanitarian attention but the United Nations has ignored till date. Members of his family stated that he had worked actively to protest the war in Biafra, writing letters about the war to the President and leading government figures. However according to source close to his family who spoke as thus: " People were being killed and he felt no one was doing anything. That is why he did what he did."
Bruce Mayrock, is from Westbury, New York and was born May 6, 1949,he was a student of Columbia University and twenty years of age when he burnt himself to death at the lawn of the United Nations Building Headquarter in protest against the 1967-1970 Biafra Genocide. He had a placard which front side read "YOU MUST STOP GENOCIDE! PLEASE SAVE NINE MILLION BIAFRANS."
Bruce Mayrock doused himself with a flammable liquid shortly before 3pm and set himself on fire on the lawn outside the UN building. Even when two United Nations guard spotted him on flame and chased him across the lawn with fire extinguishers, but Mayrock eluded the guards racing in front of the North lounge of the building before several hundred horrified delegates and onlookers. Mayrock finally fell to his knees and the guards extinguished the flames, then he was rushed to Belleone Hospital where he was listed in critical condition with burns over most of his body and was pronounced death nine hours after he set himself ablaze. He was buried in Mount Ararat Cemetery, Farmigdale, Suffolk county, New York.
May 30th 2016, Biafrans in Biafraland and all across the world will commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Biafra Genocide. Family Writers salutes the courage of Bruce Mayrock and countless Biafrans shot dead by Nigeria armed forces in Onitsha, Aba, Ugwuocha, while protesting for the release of Mazi Nnamdi Kanu, the leader of Indigenous People Of Biafra, IPOB, and Director of Radio Biafra and Biafra Television. The prize owed Bruce Mayrock and other Biafra Heroes is the restoration of Biafra, because before their death they had demonstrated "Biafra or Death".

http://www.thebiafraherald.co/2016/05/biafra-heroes-day-bruce-mayrock-hero-in.html?m=1

Bondesniger:
For 20-year-old Columbia University student named Bruce Mayrock of Westbury, New York who on May 29, 1969, set himself on fire in front of the United Nations Building in New York City to protest genocide in Biafra. He died the next day, May 30th, 1969.

For 20-year-old Columbia University student named Bruce Mayrock of Westbury, New York who on May 29, 1969, set himself on fire in front of the United Nations Building in New York City to protest genocide in Biafra. He died the next day, May 30th, 1969.

He died for me.

Like so many others


He could've asked,

"What concerns me?"

But he didn’t.


He was moved by distended abdomen

Of the children of Biafra

Full of kwoshiokor

And our indifference.


He climbed down his Ivy League chair

Into the valley of the United Nations

Wrote on a large cardboard sign:

"You must stop the genocide, please."


But nobody listened

Nobody stopped

Nobody paused

To hear the cries of the little children of Biafra


If I were born months before

If I were weaned from my mother's breasts

I could've been one of those children

Whose pictures shamed the cover of Life.


He died for me.


He didn't have to.

But he did

Because nobody listened

And nobody is listening, even now.

Rudolf Ogoo Okonkwo is the author of “This American Life Sef.”