₦airaland Forum

rvp2018:
You are also ranked the most dirtiest city for many years now
Combine the two.
You have the answer
People are paying so much to avoid cholera.
The mad cow today posted video of Tema refinery.
Everywhere I saw was slimy slum

crazy kid

You think Tema is that slummy shit you live in ee

obaaderemi:
A Kenyan doesn't have that. He has to wear bangles to be identified.

They have have no idea what nation building is

obaaderemi:
Nigeria is multicultural, so I don't need to wear Bangles to remember my identity. UK has 4 countries making it up, that hasn't deleted anything from the UKs identity.

you see that thing

You can spot spot someone from the UK and identify him from an American just by looking..

rvp2018:
Obaboon you're grunting as you tag team the mad cow. You bring more animals. The zoo has them in plenty. This is the time for you to play bonobo games.

tantrums only show what a sore loser you are

obaaderemi:
You don't put Ashanti and anything Kenyan together. It's an insult.

Exactly so

rvp2018:
Dressing in African Prints is not identity.
At least Tanzania can talk about Identity.
They are far ahead of kenya in that sense.
The rest of Africa remained hobbled by ethnicity.
Ghana and Nigeria - you dont even have a national african language.
Keny is miles ahead in creating a national identiy.
We are just behind Tanzania because of our ethnic politics that is starting to change now.

That probably the only think Julius Nyerere nailed - his economic policies failed but he created an admirable Tanzanian identity

the print has nothing to do with what I'm referring to.
A Ghanaian or Nigerian can be in suit and tie a mile away and you'll still be able to identify both respectively.

Both Ghana and Nigeria fostered an identity far back in the 1800s ... Kenya does not have one. That's your own cry at this point.

Immigration officers all around the world can identify a Ghanaian and identify a Nigerian in a que just by looking.
That is how strong both identities have been fostered.

Kenya needs to create a national identity of it own and bracelet is not what is going to help you do it

obaaderemi:
Wearing bracelets?? ; Kenyans are just stupid.Why not wear Bangles.

I'm sure he doesn't even know what an identity is ...

That guy is crazy

obaaderemi:
They're so confused. They have no meaningful identity to start with. They couldn't even builld anything until the British and Arabs came.

that's why they couldn't foster an identity and lost themselves.

rvp2018:
Yes you're still slaves of your kings who own everything including your family land.

Kenya is modern country of everyone. Black, white, brown. As long as they are law abiding and are not sitting on stolen lands like south african whites.

We are not Ashanti Kingdom.

Desperate as usual... How do kings own family lands?
Every family in Ghana have family lands. And so do the king's with their family lands which is their stool land.

You can never be Ashanti Kingdom, you're not sensible enough
The Ashanti's created a democracy of their own which was far too modern to that which existed in Europe and same goes for other Akan tribes.

Take control over Kenyan lands which were taken from you guys because you were educated.

rvp2018:
We are building a kenyan identity. Not Ghana where Twi at 49 percent dominate the others.

This is why every kenyan is wearing kenya bracelet.

Least said about Nigeria where Igbo are forever bitter the better.

after so many years, you're now building an identity?

there's nothing like twi tribe please

Ghanaians do not need to wear bracelet to have an identity.
You can spot a Ghanaian from a mile away with nothing identifiable on him or her. That is what identity looks like.

Nigerians have an identity.. you can spot a Nigerian from a mile away even without him or her speaking.

rvp2018:
Manage GOLD first.

we have been for 600 plus years

Own your country and find your identity

rvp2018:
We recognised Indians who came here in 1890 as a tribe
We recognised Nubians who came from Sudan in 1910s as a tribe
We recognised Makonds who came from Mozambique in 1940s as tribe
We recognised Shonas who came from Zim in 1960s as tribe.
I am sure next tribe to be recognised in kenya will be stateless Igbo people if they dont engage in crime and get deported.
Even Twi if they present their case will can make them a tribe...tribe of short people with short ambition
We want diverse and modern democracy.

Once they are recognised - they get privelleges as minority - they get hired into jobs - are given gov contracts - etc.

Kenya modern constitution protect minorities - and gov has to have face of kenya - so one Indian there - a shona here - we protect and welcome all.

In turn they dont repatriate their money like chinese do in Ghana. Make chinese Ghanians and maybe they will invest in Ghana long term not smuggle your gold.

sorry, we've not lost our identity like you to become this desperate.


We don't do that shit here

obaaderemi:
They don't even marry the stupid little Indians. Meanwhile they marry west Africans. We don't even know they exist here. But in Kenya, they see Indians as so cuddly.

I'm sad for them... When you lose your identity, you really are lost

rvp2018:
We recognised Indians who came here in 1890 as a tribe
We recognised Nubians who came from Sudan in 1910s as a tribe
We recognised Makonds who came from Mozambique in 1940s as tribe
We recognised Shonas who came from Zim in 1960s as tribe.
I am sure next tribe to be recognised in kenya will be stateless Igbo people if they dont engage in crime and get deported.
Even Twi if they present their case will can make them a tribe...tribe of short people with short ambition
We want diverse and modern democracy.

if you want modern democracy, just come and learn from Ghana.
That kind of shit is only done by desperate people who have no identity

obaaderemi:
What problems did Indians cause you before you started attacking them, raping their girls and stealing their property in the 70s?
Oh, it's intertribal problem.

obaaderemi:
It's just silly. But then the Indians own Kenya, so the smart thing to do was to just say they're a tribe, as if the Indians don't know to what individual Indian tribe they come from. Kenyans and madness.

Indians who never lose their identity to anything

obaaderemi:
They've accepted Indian domination. That's why they designated the Indians in Kenya as a tribe as if the Indians don't belong to different Indian tribes already. How the Indians must have laughed at them. Remove the Indians from Kenya's economy and see the country die.

you're a funny guy

Designating India as a tribe is one insane thing

Ghana yo start allowing export of gas as an extra 2 trillion cubic feet gas field goes into development


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6nGZcfBngc

rvp2018:
Why are not planning to refine their own. You should colonize Ghana officially

Ghana is not a useless country like Kenya..

The kind of fuel Ghana is looking at importing is LNG from Nigeria. Something that Ghana private sector is seeking to create more demand for form industries.
Ghana already have it second 3 billion dollars refinery under construction which alone is capable of meeting it total refined products demand.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4fUrFBoMGE

We are also revamping the Tema oil refinery with new boilers to bring it fully on stream for export.


Don't cry because the Indians are colonizing you

popizaino:
Stop this strawman argument, no one is talking about Kenya but Ghana when the discussion shift to kenya we will all discuss them but for now focus is on Ghana.


@rvp2018
@obaaderemi
@Generaldae

The speech by the former president of Ghana on the state of the economic and the solution might interest you all.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq5Li9ozDNQ

you are the one with a straw man argument at the moment.
I have no interest the Ghana discussion because Ghana is in a better place.
I'm more worried for Kenya since it failed to repay it Chinese debt in June this year and got slapped with a fined.
Defaulting like that after years of debt restructuring only leads them to a Zambia situation.


Ghana has too many options to resolve it issues
Kenya debt crisis is not the same as Ghana liquidity issue.

You can take a read below... The easiest solution to Ghana issues is in parliament.. that's from Mahama next finance minister

rvp2018:
Until you have a DEAL with imf I will be here to watch madness...as you descend into it...cedis free fall continues.. inflation of now must approaching 150 percent

inflation is already dropping to 25% by year end and so is the cedi recovering.

I'm more concern about the slap that china give you when they refuse your attempt to restructure your debt with them inorder to use the money to pay other creditors and how they went ahead to fine Kenya for defaulting.
If you want to see what China will do to you, look no further than Zambia... They will confiscate the remaining assets that your country used as collateral.

rvp2018:
You don't understand the importance of imf deal.Its not about the money.Imf gives very little money.Its stamp of approval and confidence that deal with imf gives.This because everyone knows imf will straighten the economy because they are coming in to manage things.Their technical input and micromanagent is signal to creditors and everyone that country is on the mend . without it Ghana can't n won't manage..3 billion is small money because Ghana debt has ballooned with interests n all that. Whatever you do nail the imf deal...you need it otherwise you're gone .

I told you that a long time ago.... Ghana has already received that confidence just by the mere news break of talks with IMF.

Ghana debt is within manageable levels and the yearly obligations are also within Ghana ability to pay It will be 2.8 billion next year which is peanuts money for Ghana.

What we need to do most is to solve our toxic politics that seeks to make ruling Govt suffer as punishment for their bad deeds.
IMF has never been needed by Ghana.

Kenya needs the IMF, without them your country will be a venezuela in months. You have a huge 12 billion obligation because of how your debt ballooned. You don't have the money to pay and don't have the confidence of your creditors after you restructured for years and decided to default.

Shaytun:
Hotels are closing across Kenya.

Economic Fallout

the mess looms wide

rvp2018:
Now see who is laughing now. You've been begging IMF for a year plus. They are saying - Ghana - we dont feel you. Lebanon and Srilanka.

Ghana is desperate for 3 billion - they'd have float eurobond by now ) . Imf say float 10 or 100B centenary bond we see . Eurobond are saying come baby come..50% interest rate...before we talk principal.

Now raising even 100m dollars is hard

Ghana only started engagement with IMF which is even backroom engagement just a month ago

Ghana already has 3 billion dollars sitting in the sinking fund.. No one with money in the bank get desperate for a peanut loan.

Ghana just raise 800 million from African development bank and we just raised 2 billion dollars for Ghana cocoa board..

Like I said, we ain't Kenya that is bankrupt... Face your Sri Lanka situation alone.
Comparing yourself to Ghana will only make more Kenyans go hungry.... Ghana was flexing with it bank balance but Kenya couldn't do same because you're a poor bankrupt country that needed to be rushed to the IMF after countless debt restructuring that got your best pal China pissed.


This is Ghana next finance minister for the opposition party talking.

rvp2018:
Even south africa went there - IMF dude to corona - had opened their warm embrace - no question - come all. You refused.

SA had better finances and didn't even need it .

Kenya on the other hand had no option...

Ghana realized it didn't need debt freezing so we didn't sign on to it and we didn't need IMF as well hence we did sign on to it last year when Kenya was on stretcher being carried there despite the good will Ghana did for your country.

Even as we speak, Ghana does not need IMF because a solvent country does not go to the IMF but if govt can't have it needed numbers in parliament to get access to the monies in Ghana sinking fund which is set aside for debt servicing.. they will find themselves in a right corner

rvp2018:
We walked ourselves to IMF - you're going via ambulance - and they are refusing admission. Big difference. We visit hospital once in a while - quick check on our vitals - the nurse - says go home. Ghana, your lying-in casualty half-dead and they won't admit you - until you pay in dollars serious deposit. They are almost sure you will die soon...for eurobond is increasingly choking any life out of you.

You run there because you had no option ... No one would loan you money, your export value couldn't be raise fast enough and you were defaulting on your debt obligations.

That was your death bed..

Ghana can decide today that it doesn't need an IMF program and it will still be able to pay it debt as well as keep financing it other obligations. A liquidity issues is not the same as Kenya debt crisis . With wage Bill and debt servicing taking up 125% of revenue... You were already dead.

rvp2018:
Quote one expert.

the IMF is an expert enough...
They are administering a bitter pill to your country...

By the time they are done, more Kenyans will be multidimensional poor with a huge unemployment issue on your hand.

rvp2018:
You will wish your problem was starving after drought. The problem will end when rains come. Your problems will take min 10yrs...max forever. Ask Zim, Argentina, and other hyperinflation victims.

I rather starve due to drought than go through hyperinflation - it crazy - it long lasting - it debilitating

My problem is Liquidity issue which will be resolved by end of year or earliest by next election year when Ghanaians decided to clear the gridlock in parliament because they can't agree on anything.

Kenya is already suffering from hyperinflation hence the huge food prices compare to here... Atleast the ordinary Ghanaian do not have to worry about drought, starvation or food prices.

rvp2018:
Replace kenya with Nigeria.
Subsidies came coz Uhuru was desperate to get his guy elected.
Just like Nana is desperate for re-election
We never had subsidies before of anything.
Ruto has deleted them...except fertilizer,
How can kenya without minerals afford it

Please don't comment on Ghana politics you simply don't have an idea... NAna cannot run for elections again.

Your country is just a bankrupt man on his death bed being sustained by IMF....
Your country will not be able to buy fuel in 2023 if from all indication, your wage bill will be forced downwards by the IMF.

That means more suffering and poverty for the ordinary kenyan

rvp2018:
Madcow take your meds. Where is kenya here. Ghana has risen to 134 percent percent. Nigeria the big zoo is up there 35 percent. But 135 percent.

SOUTH AFRICA also crying real tears

Ohoo they hate us

And this was 10 days ago.

Now hyperinflation - 200 percent.

Next cameras from CNN and Reuters will descend to witness the economic massacre

Ghana is not the one with an unprecedented 18 million people starving ..... Ghana's economic growth creates enough buffer for all Ghanaians to benefit so an increase in inflation have little effect. It creates income growth for the largest percentage of the population.


The only Africans crying at the moment are Kenyans who can't find food or have been priced out of the market

rvp2018:
Only because Uhuru the drunkard messed up - with Nigeria type fuel subsidy. Kenyans dont mind paying for anything for any prices as long as it available.

This week I welcomed some Zimbabwe guy - to europe - from Nairobi - he swear he never saw people who have money like kenyans - and you cant explain what they do. Kenya has 200,000 kids in international schools - higher than any in Africa including south africa.

Kenyans party monday to monday and Nigerian come & cant only afford one room of 100 dollars for 10 men - they sleep in turn -

Kenyans mind a lot because the Kenyan economy did not create a trickle down effect for growth that give a buffer to the ordinary Kenyans to benefit. So the only way they could feel something from your economic growth was through subsides.

You guys became drunk on it and it has caused a lot of pain for the ordinary Kenyan when IMF force the removal of most of them.

Apart from Nigerians and South Africans, I don't know of any African community that party more than Ghanaians. But that is not the discussion

rvp2018:
Pure madness. Trash

I know you don't like facts but those are the realities you Kenyans face.... Next year will be more difficult for Kenya.

Pray you don't end up with empty shelves as the IMF force you guys to strip yourself.... Ordinary Kenyans will suffer more.

The Ghanaian govt do not run subsides on anything