₦airaland Forum

SavageResponse:
You are the one who is displaying ignorance here!

Stop mixing up refinery and crude oil production platform(Onshore and offshore)

I just dey read they laugh there's difference btw a rig and refinery. That's the mistake they making. Even America with their shale oil have refineries.

Largest petroleum refineries in the United States
Rank Refinery Barrels/Day
1 Port Arthur Refinery 607,000
2 Galveston Bay Refinery 585,000
3 Baytown Refinery 560,500
4 Garyville Refinery 564,000

Environmental and health assessments risk as been taking and certified before lagos state will give dangote go ahead to build a refinery in lagos, and i can bet the means of crude transportation to the refinery will be by vessel not pipe. Which is one of the major problems in niger delta cos pipes are used mostly to move crudes and products to depots and the refineries.

Even if there will be health and enviromental risk it will be of minimal effect. Renfineries dont flare gas pls.

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festacman:
Yes, Sarduana was killed by young soldiers led by a young who was more Hausa than Igbo. On the flip side, Aguiyi Ironsi was killed by Northern soldiers led by Danjuma. Yes, Igbo suffered progrom and civil war. However after the war, Igbo who lived in the North went back and were warmly welcomed. They repossessed their properties unlike the case of abandoned property. And many more millionaires were made

However, I can't deny that there exist mutual SUSPICION rather than UNFORGIVENESS or hatred between Hausa/Fulani and Igbo just as we also have between Yoruba and Igbo. This suspicion borders on who will outwit each other given that Igbos are seen as 'too clever or crafty' in pursuit of target interests. So, the other ethnic groups more like keep their antennas up and examine everything microscopically when dealing with Igbo.

Outside of politics, there are thousands Igbo traders in the urban and rural parts of Northern Nigeria doing businesses, meeting the needs of those communities and making modest profits in return. If there is a deep-rooted unforgiveness as Doyin Okupe is insinuating, those people won't be thriving there. Personally, I did my NYSC in Safana in Katsina and I and other corps members, who were largely Igbo, mixed freely with the locals. We raised money from the locals for projects and were supported with palpable willingness.

Doyin Okupe is entitled to his opinion. My own opinion is that the problem is SUSPICION rather than UNFORGIVENESS or hatred.

God bless u my brother, i served in imo state thou am not hausa and i had the best time of my life. All my families both male and female are married to igbo and am currently dating a beautiful home breed igbo lady. Sometimes some people just make stupid comment disregarding thier old age just to say something.

Subsidybad21:
You are right.

But...either way it has to go...it is costing our economy trillions to pay for the scam.

Long term, subsidy removal might lead to more refineries, investment, and jobs, and eventually a fall in petrol prices...plus we become exporters of petrol, not importers.

So true... But nigerians wont see it that way, its the pump increase they will be shouting about and the same people leading them will quickly tap into goodies of susbsidy removal. Nigerians dont have the spirit of patient.

Subsidybad21:
There is nothing to defend

The point of my comment is simple. Subsidy on petrol is unsustainable, and will continue to be unsustainable.

This latest dispute between IPMAN and the government is one example of how unsustainable subsidy on petrol is.

As for APC, I don't support them, nor have I ever voted for them. Same for your PDP .

My brother it's going to be hard to stop subsidy, cos nigerians will scream blue murder. I believe nigerians will want subsidy and d scam in it to continue than remove subsidy and buy has at d rate of 210#.

Subsidybad21:
You did not have this issue under GEJ because with crude oil at $100 PER barrel and above, there was enough money to pay PEF and any subsidy demand

The problem was, the cost of paying those demands kept on rising...and GEJ tried to end all that by removing subsidy in 2012...but you Nigerians said no...so we wasted over 4 trillion naira keeping fuel cheap.

If GEJ was in power now, he would do the same thing that APC is doing now, or raise taxes to pay for PEF and other subsidy costs, or remove subsidy completely.

PEF is scam most people dont even know what pef is all about. 70% of those collect pef are thief and scamming the goverment. You will buy product and lie ur destination is kano were by yoi going to ogun state.
Nobody should ask me questions cos that i know how it works. Gid forgives me and us all.

Standing5:
If subsidy is removed and crude oil products are priced freely by market forces, the citizens end up groaning.

The most reasonable solution is to cut out unnecessary middlemen adding their own cut to the final prices in a free market situation by building or maintaining efficient refineries.

God bless you brother, some people will just type just to type.. It's either subsidy remains or price goes up or we wait patiently for d the private refineries to come to work or we find a way to rehabilitate the refineries. I think nigeria does not have the monetary capacity to build 4 new refineries for now.

Monogamy:
Step down and stop shalaye

God bless you, he should have rejected the position on the ground that he's too old for such position.

Icumsa45:
He is a billionaire, and cashed out long before he joined politics.

Thank you, Master oils as been there long ago, that guy started with suppiles. I still remember his boys when they come loading at my depot then. People just say things they know nothing about.

Monogamy:
The marketers are playing double standard

You get it. They the most dubious line oc chain in the down sector. The praying for price to go up so the can sell at an higher price a stock they boughg at a reduced price. Sometimes i dont know the job of the useless dpr if they cant do the needful.

ediko5:
My God did you read the post well at all?
He said he paid the hospital bills and money for baby items. What's wrong with you.

I was shocked myself. Maybe he because he said he cant afford to b second to his wife. Am just surprised about the comment am reading up there. Some people dont know how bloody some mother in laws can be, when they try controlling there daughter's home.
The worst problem and man or woman can have is a terrible in law.

loswhite:
so you mean you will buy refined fuel from petrol stations with USD right....lol most Nigeria citizens are just educated illiterate.
The truth is alot of ppl had license to build refineries but refused to do so rather they imported fuel to the detriment of all Nigerians and became billionaires due to subsidy scam. It is important to note that fuel importation is part of the inflation we are experiencing due to a weaken naira against the US Dollars.
Dangote decided to do the needful and he is saying if there is a shortfall in the future only those with active license of refining should be able to import the product. The question I want to ask my fellow citizens is why do we want to support ppl that choose to focus on importation rather than refining? In what way do this ppl benefit us as Nigerians? Why do we want ppl without refineries to be importing fuel when there is a short fall? If only these ppl choose to build refineries in the first place there will be no need for importation due to shortfalls

So true, but lot of modular refineries are coming up people dont know that there are up to 80 refineries coming up small and mega ones, thou am not a fan of dangote, ever business man wants to make profits. Importation favours them well cos of the scam underneath it that people dont know. Who wants to loose free money?

[quote author=wman post=99498408]Lmao.

We want our country to be richer and get fair value for its resources. Already, we are sinking into debts and can't afford to fund infrastructure and other projects without foreign loans. You are here lying that we gave more than enough crude oil?

How do people like you reason? Don't you want your country to progress? Don't you want your country to get richer? What do you gain from supporting Dangote and his crony capitalism? [/quote

Nigeria as abundant crude oil thats true, refining as been our problem and am happy lot of refineries are coming up modular ones and mega ones. And cos its a local contents it must be sold in naira so as not to kill the economy futher. What most people dont understand is that the oil cabals just want to make more money and more money and they dont send the masses.
The truth is we need them more than they need us, thats why they can hold any goverment ransom at anytime.

Even an ordinary seller of phones or stuffs think of his profit first before anybody. When u get to that higher stage u will understand and think that way too someday.

lexy2014:
So u mean Ibeto wasn't willing to take d risk? Is "everything working against" dangote and co mentioned in d story?

Taxes paid? Are u aware that dangote barely pays taxes as a result of being a beneficiary of some of d policies mentioned in d article?

What exactly are d benefits to d economy that u are touting?

As much as every businessman is a thief, dangote not paying tax is a ppp agreement with the goverment in repairing roads such as oshodi apapa road, i think tincan too etc. Ibeto too can sign such ppp agreement against paying tax for a period of years.

QuotaSystem:
Dangote's refinery will definitely be a game changer for the Nigerian economy.

What a genius strategy. Imagine a scenario where other African countries would be looking for Nigerian Naira in order to purchase Nigerian Petroleum Products. It would increase the organic demand for our currency thereby boosting its value significantly.





This does not make sense. There is no way Dangotes petrol would be more expensive because not only has the issue of landing cost been eliminated since we're no longer importing, but the market has also been deregulated (which is why we suffer price hikes whenever price of crude or USD rises).

You're right about elimination of subsidy which will save us significant amounts of money, but even greater benefits would come from saving millions of USD daily that would have been wasted to import refined petrol: further boosting our foreign reserves and the value of the Naira. The multiplier benefits from job creation and development of allied industries to support the refinery and petrochemical plant are better imagined.

Finally, the disgraceful economic anomaly wherein the 6th largest oil producer in the world is one of the biggest importers of petrol from less endowed countries, and continuously suffers whenever crude prices rise instead of enjoying the largesse like fellow oil producers, will finally come to an end thanks to Dangote's refinery. I wish him the best and I'm excited for Nigeria.

God bless you and it's not going to be only dangote but all the refineries. I and someone still talked on these issue onbthese forum, when he said he doesnt trust d goverment on which currency, crude will be sold and i told him i pray it's in naira.
Selling in dollars within nigeria will finally kill the economy and fuel willl still be expensive cos of d exchange rate. Let the game begin, these the time nigerians will enjoy and buy pms at lower rate even dpk and Ago will go down too. Very zine decision from the goverment.

alfsalami:
Ugly comments from ugly minds , even when one was killed , people still say it's a lie ! Surprise at low iq these days

I still dont get it, how some people reason sometimes? Do they want the kids to be killed so they can blame the government or what. They were kidnapped we all shouted, now they been released some people are saying it's scripted.

I just feel some people wanted something bad to happen to the kids so they can get what to hold against the goverment not that they cared about the kids. It's all about politics, party alignment and hatered.
No matter what, they are still nigerians and every nigerian lifes matters.

wink2015:
State police should be the immediate solution to the insecurity challenges in the northern states including other region.

That will be the biggest mistake nigeria will make.

Sparky01:
Why didn't he kee shekawu by mistake?? Abi na just paper dey find watin e go report!!!no be only banana okocha, him go soon kill "plantain Femi"...@dailypost or the cow reporting dis probably know that BA'ANA is probably the terrorist's real name decided to add okocha his might be nickname,to give it a different perspectives. The hate is real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I pity those my brothers still on the fence!! keep deceiving yourselves.

Shekua is of boko haram and not iswap. Iswap is another fraction of terrorists.

[quote author=peacekante post=99355672]All of una na PDP. Fools[/quot


I swear u got it. Nigeria politics is funny, Apc doing its own madness imo state while pdp own is mad of the maddest. Bala and otom now thier dearest bala is now an enemy and d might Gumi or whatever they were all praising then as become their number 1 enemy and a bandit sponsor. The same man that broken peace btw obasanjo and d might Atiku. What an irony. Pdp falling over each other but they wont accept that they have problem.

Let all sit down and enjoy the madness with the political parties.

[quote author=maxell post=99351441]But Rochas said the presidency intervened for him to be released from police custody[/quote

By now you should know some people just want to say something.

bareal:
They have forgotten that there are other schools that are neither islamic or christianic....very liberal in their rules and regulations. Why didn't they put their wards in such schools and anything goes?

Abi, i just dont know why people just feel they can upturn rules and regulation of institute to fit there wants. If u want to wear what u like ho to schools that will accept it. Simple

oloyedewaris:
I never said it's a Muslim school, it's a public school which means everyone is privileged to enjoy it

Even the so called western countries (US, UK, Canada and so on) will never tell their students to pull off their hijab in their schools



I hate hypocrisy

You still don't get it, its a missionary school with Christianity background and rules. It's not just an ordinary public school

The primary objective of the missionaries was to convert the people to Christianity through education. These was the reason why missionary school were founded but due to wide expectant it started accommodating other religion after the goverment took over but once it as been returned back to the missionaries it core value and rules must be respect even when it accepted other religion.

Agboriotejoye:
Thanks.

Uwc sir

oloyedewaris:
Please before you call the school a christain school, who is paying the teachers salary and who have been maintaining the school, hypocrites oshi

Before you call it an islamic school who pays the trachers salaries and who also maintain the school.

Agboriotejoye:
Where's the link

Here it is sir?

https://plustvafrica.com/bauchi-governors-son-shamsudeen-to-forfeit-properties-over-money-laundering-allegations/

oloyedewaris:
So far it's not private property everyone should do what he likes, hypocrite

Really can you do anyhow in an islamic school for your information am a muslim. If u cant follow their rules get out and find the one that fits into your ideology. Simple

Tranquility4u:
I see no reason why Muslim students should be denied
their constitutional rights.

All Muslim students, in particular, female students should be allowed to dress in Hijab since these schools are for the public.


“Are the schools not grant-aided? So you want to use
public money to persecute Muslim children until they
submit to forceful conversion? Even if they are
missionary schools, must they force female Muslim
students to strip? We are not surprised because it is
part of their old way of forceful conversion. Nigerian
Christians should desist from using Muslim children to
subject their parents to psychological trauma. We will
not go back to slavery. Enough is enough.

Then you dont get it, it's a Missionarry school which means it rules are governored by christain doctrines, is it possible for a christian going to an islamic school to open a fellowship or put on crosses within the school premises. I went to a Christian university an Adventise as such and we all including muslim obeyed their rules.

The muric guy need phycological evaluation if kwara is a muslim state then lagos, ondo,ogun, jos, edo, enugu, delta state that are majority Christian state should ask all muslim schools to move to kwara state etc. Mother fucker guy.

Never4getU:
Which audio prosecution are u talking about? That was just playing to the gallery.

Many Nigerians didn't hear or know anything about his corruption in Abuja where he sold all landed properties to cronies and cornered same proceed.

Bala is thief

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Nobody is saying he's a bloody thief, he's a multiple thief but nothing can be done for now. He as immunty covering him and if u want to blame anybody blame those who made him a Governor. Must of his properties as been forfeited to the federal government.

Agboriotejoye:
What about his son? Does he have immunity too?

Hope these answers your questiona sir.

Federal High Court, Abuja, presided over by Justice Taiwo Taiwo, has refused to set aside the order of interim forfeiture of some properties linked to Shamsudeen Bala, son of the Bauchi State governor, Bala Mohammed, who is being prosecuted by the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, EFCC, for money laundering offence.

Shamsudeen is facing trial before Justice Nnamdi Dimgba of a Federal High Court, Abuja on an amended 14-count charge. He is standing trial alongside Bird Trust Agro Allied Limited, Intertrans Global Logistic Ltd, Diakin Telecommunications Ltd and Bal-Vac Mining Nigeria Ltd.

In the course of the trial, the EFCC had on October 18, 2017, secured an order for the interim forfeiture of some properties traced to Shamsudeen, which are believed to be the proceeds of illegal activities.

Justice Dimgba had made the order pursuant to a motion brought before the Court by the EFCC seeking for the interim forfeiture of the properties.

Dissatisfied with the order, Shamsudeen sought the order of the Court, to set aside the interim forfeiture order of Justice Dimgba.

However, delivering judgment today, March 11, 2020, Justice Taiwo refused to set aside the interim forfeiture orders of some of the properties as contained in the order of interim forfeiture made by Justice Dimgba.

The properties include a mansion located at Sunrise Estate, Asokoro, Abuja; three four-bedroom semi-detached duplexes located at Green Acres Estate, Apo-Dutse, Abuja; and a four-bedroom semi-detached duplex with BQ, located at Maitama, Abuja.

The trial judge held that in relation to three other properties listed in the schedule, “those who laid claims showed sufficient proof of ownership and no pending charge against them”.

Furthermore, Justice Taiwo also took judicial notice of counts three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine and 10 and also refused to set aside the properties listed in the counts, “because they are subject to pending criminal proceedings before Justice Dimgba”.

Meanwhile, Shamsudeen is expected to continue with his trial before Justice Dimgba on March 24, 2020.

bigfish3k:
You don't understand the guy

He meant that Olisa metuhs was swift while this man's own was dragging

How? Olisa was sentenced feb 2020 after 4yrs trial and bala case started 2017 and he became Governor 2019 and as of 2019 he as immunity on him. For all these stuffs to stop a law needs to be enacted that bars anybody with corruption cases to seek for any elective position or be nominated into any goverment institution.

Never4getU:
Bala is common criminal..is a wonder how Buhari vilified everyone in Jonathan govt both formal and informal corrupts politicians but leaving Bala uninvestigated or even prosecuted remain a miracle to me.

While the likes of Olisah Metuh we're been bundled into security van to and from both court and prison Bala Mohammed were never tried in any competent court for corruption.

Many of u who lived in Abuja when he was FCT minister, he became a loyal servant cabinet member of Jonathan with allegiance to patience Jonathan (mama peace).

He was the original name for corruption but today is a gov.

This country is gone to the dogs

Really. I think you people should stop saying what's not true sir, he was investigated along side his son, before he won the governorship election and immunity covered him.


Ex-FCT Minister, Bala Mohammed Docked, Remanded in Prison OverN864m Fraud
The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, EFCC, on Wednesday, May 10, 2017, arraigned a former Minister of the Federal Capital Territory, Bala A. Mohammed before Justice A. M. Talba of the Federal Capital Territory, High Court sitting in Gudu, Abuja, on a 6-count charge bordering on abuse of office, false declaration of assets and fraud to the tune of N864million.

Deepthoughts:
No, I was actually referring to the government insisting on selling crude to the local refinery owners at international price which would be counterproductive.

Oh sorry. That i cant say and i hope they won't try it. Unless something is spinning in their head.