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Christianity Etc › Re: End Time Becomes Clearer by Kei144(op): 8:56pm On Jan 01, 2016

Da. 12:11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.
Da. 12:12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.

The only reason why it is believed that the great tribulations will last for 7 years is because Da. 9:27 talks about confirming a covenant for one seven and that the stopping of sacrifice occurs in the middle of the seven. Da. 12:11 says that after sacrifice is abolished, the Antichrist will still be there for 1290 days. Re. 13:5 says that the dragon gives authority to the best for 42 months. The time seems to expire shortly after the abomination that causes desolation is set up in the temple, which is why powerful armies from north and east suddenly rise against him.

Mt. 24:29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “`the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ [Isaiah 13:10; 34:4]
Mt. 24:30 “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.

Just before Jesus returns, some huge asteroids will strike the earth, completely changing the map of the world. Very few humans will remain.

Is. 13:9 See, the day of the LORD is coming — a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger — to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it.
Is. 13:10 The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light.
Is. 13:11 I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins. I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless.
Is. 13:12 I will make man scarcer than pure gold, more rare than the gold of Ophir.
Is. 13:13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble; and the earth will shake from its place at the wrath of the LORD Almighty, in the day of his burning anger.

Christianity Etc › Re: End Time Becomes Clearer by Kei144(op): 8:55pm On Jan 01, 2016

2. The 7 Years of Great Tribulation

Re. 12:6 The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
Re. 12:7 And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.
Re. 12:8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven.
Re. 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down — that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
Re. 12:12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.”

The seven years of great tribulations begin shortly after the rapture. The war in heaven between Michael and the dragon hurls the dragon and his angels to the earth. That is a great disaster to the earth and immediately commences the great tribulations.

Re. 13:1 And the dragon [Some late manuscripts And I] stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.
Re. 13:2 The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority.
Re. 13:3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast.
Re. 13:4 Men worshipped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshipped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?”
Re. 13:5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months.

Some late manuscripts have it that it is the seer that stood on the shore of the sea, and not the dragon, just as I stood on the shore of the sea in my 2012 dream that I presented in my previous post. Germany definitely has a lot to do with the coming beast. During the first half of the time of great tribulations (1260 days or 42 months), the dragon (Satan) gives authority to the beast (Antichrist). It is during the first 42 months of the 7 years of great tribulations that the seven trumpets of Revelation 8 will be blown. Blowing of the trumpets will bring on major asteroid collisions with the earth. This will begin to occur from towards the end of 2017.

Da. 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven’. [Or ‘week’] In the middle of the ‘seven’ [Or ‘week’] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.” [Or it] [Or And one who causes desolation will come upon the pinnacle of the abominable temple, until the end that is decreed is poured out on the desolated city]

The chief negotiator for the Palestinians during their ongoing talks with Israel has revealed that a unilateral drive for statehood will proceed, despite US pressure against it. Saeb Erekat detailed plans for the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state within three years in a meeting with members of the foreign press at his office in Ramallah, according to Reuters. "The status quo cannot last," he said. "We want to establish a state no later than November 2017. That's it."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/palestinian-state-be-created-no-later-november-2017-says-chief-negotiator-saeb-erekat-1471570

The Antichrist receives power to rule over the whole world in November 2017. He immediately confirms a seven-year peace covenant between Israel and Palestine, allowing the creation of the Palestinian state. The Antichrist will dominate the world unopposed for 42 months. Along the way, the Antichrist will put an end to sacrifice and offering in the rebuilt temple of Jerusalem. He will then set up the abomination that causes desolation in the temple. This will bring on the second part of the great tribulations period, during which the seven bowls of God’s wrath will be poured on the earth. When the sixth bowl is poured out, the war of Armageddon takes place, which brings an end to the rule of the Antichrist.

Christianity Etc › Re: End Time Becomes Clearer by Kei144(op): 8:53pm On Jan 01, 2016

Persecution of the Virgin Church

Re. 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
Re. 12:4 His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.

Re. 6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained.

Mt. 24:10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,
Mt. 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
Mt. 24:12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,
Mt. 24:13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

After world war III, the world will be in terrible shape. It is in this condition that the antichrist system begins to establish a new world order. It is then that a great persecution of the virgin church will commence. Since Re. 12:1-2 will be fulfilled on September 23, 2017, Re. 12:3 will begin after September 23, 2017. Re. 12:4 might be a reference to many Christians that will fall away from the faith due to the persecutions. It could also be referring to many asteroids entering the earth’s atmosphere (Re. 6:12-13).

The persecution of Christians just before the rapture will separate the tares from the wheat. The rapture is the harvest of the wheat. The rapture takes place after the opening of the seventh seal. Opening of the sixth seal corresponds with Re. 12:4 in which the dragon stands in front of the woman that is about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it is born—before the rapture. The rapture corresponds with Re. 12:5, which will happen in November, 2017.

Christianity Etc › Re: End Time Becomes Clearer by Kei144(op): 8:43pm On Jan 01, 2016

The sign of Revelation 12

Re. 12:1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.
Re. 12:2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
Re. 12:5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron sceptre. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.

God revealed an astronomical sign that marks the time that He will adopt His sons in Re. 12:1-5. Modern Astronomy has enabled us to know that the sign of Re. 12:1-2 will occur in the sky on 23rd September, 2017. The sons of God will be adopted in November, 2017; that is when the rapture will take place.

Jupiter was known by the Jews as the planet of the Messiah. Jupiter enters the sign of Virgo in August 2016; on 27th August there is a close conjunction of Venus. As the sign of Revelation 12 forms on September 23, 2017, Jupiter is in the womb of Virgo and is about to be born. Will the labor pains begin in August 2016?

Sometime in 2012, I had a dream in which I saw myself on the bank of a lagoon. I was with fellow Africans. I looked across the lagoon and saw what I thought to be a very beautiful German city, and I knew that my objective was to get to that city. Then I saw myself in a small boat being controlled by some Africans in the middle of the water. We were moving towards the city. Just then, another boat coming from the ocean intersected with us; the boat was going in a direction about 60 degrees from our direction. I saw in the other boat two white men and I understood that one of them was Hitler. As soon as those two men saw me, they considered me to be some kind of security risk and ordered their security men to stop me. Then I immediately saw myself back to the bank of the lagoon where I was before, the mission of going to the German city having failed. Then I woke up from the dream. I wondered what the dream could mean. I only knew that the Hitler that I saw in the dream was apparently going to assume power.

https://endzog./2015/11/08/the-return-of-adolf-hitler-2015-2016/

Surprisingly, sometime in 2013, I saw a web page about the spirit of Hitler rising from 2014 to 2016. And that is what is happening now. Apparently, 2016 (August) will be the time of the big wars. The big wars still belong to the time of birth pains. It is not yet the time of great tribulations.

Christianity Etc › Re: End Time Becomes Clearer by Kei144(op): 2:21pm On Jan 01, 2016

waice6571:
The Lord bless you for this post.
Could you please give more details on this topic.
thanks

From the Prophecy by Jane Leade of England — 1679

The seals in the book of Revelation represent the completion of a total and full redemption by Jesus Christ. As God's Spirit opens up seal after seal [to the truth-loving holy seekers], the complete and total redemption will be revealed both individually and universally. This gradual opening of the mysteries of Christ's redemption constitutes God's unfathomable wisdom, and will continually reveal new and fresh things to the deserving seeker. The reason for the opening of the testimony in heaven before the end of this age is so that the ark of the living testimony it contains may be unsealed. (Revelation 11:19) The presence of the divine ark will constitute the life of the end-time virgin church (the 144,000) that will rise, and wherever this virgin church body is, the ark must be there also. The spreading of the everlasting gospel of the kingdom will begin with the unsealing of the living testimony in God's ark. The proclamations from this testimony will be the sounding of a trumpet of alarm to Christendom. The selection and preparation of the virgin church (the 144,000) is to be after a secret or hidden manner. As David was chosen and anointed by the Lord's prophet, but was not admitted to public service in the kingdom for quite a few years; so also the virgin church which has no human origins (and who is also from the stem of David), will be born. It will take her some time to come out of immaturity and arrive at full and mature age. The birth of this virgin church was typified by Saint John's vision in which he saw a great wonder appeared in heaven: a woman giving birth to her first-born son who was caught up to God's throne. For as a virgin gave birth to Christ physically, so shall a virgin church give birth to the first-born in the Spirit—one who will be endowed with the seven spirits of God [Isaiah 11:2]. Being so born and marked with divine authority, this church will not know any hindrances or impediments. The holy anointing [or unction] among these new-born spirits will be complete! There is not such a church apparent in the earth at this time. All declarations of faith are found light when weighed in the balances, and are therefore rejected by the Supreme Judge. However, the outcome of this rejection will be that a new and glorious church will arise. The glory of God and of the Lamb will so rest on this church (which is typified by the tabernacle in the wilderness), that it will be called the Tabernacle of Wisdom. While not now visible, it will be seen coming (as out of the wilderness) within a short time. It will then grow and spread throughout the earth, not only to the number of the first born (the 144,000), but also to the [full number of the] remnant of the seed—against whom the dragon will make war continually.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/external?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.courtofheaven.com%2Fpdfs%2Fbooks%2F13-Leade-Jane-4pg.pdf

From Jane Leade’s prophecy, we can see that the time of birth pains is a time when God will reveal a virgin church that He has been preparing for some years now. As the seals of Revelation 6 and 7 are being opened, the virgin church (the 144,000 Israelites) will receive increasingly new spiritual knowledge. They will then spread all over the world the everlasting gospel of the kingdom of God. Their ministry will lead to the maturation of the sons of God. The maturation of the sons of God will lead to the adoption of the sons of God, which is referred to as the birth of the Man child in Re. 12:5. The woman of Revelation 12 is the end-time virgin church—the 144,000 Israelites.

Re. 14:1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.
Re. 14:2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps.
Re. 14:3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No-one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.

The 144,000 are descendants of Israel of old. They will be selected from these descendants living in various parts of the world. Israelites in Nigeria will play a very important role (Zep. 3:10).

Ez. 36:23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD, declares the Sovereign LORD, when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.

Ro. 11:16 If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.

God promised the Israelites that He will show Himself holy to the world through the them. Israel is the root of the Church. The reason why the Church could not become like Jesus over the years is simply because it is only when the root becomes holy that it could supply holy sap to the rest of the tree, so that the whole tree could become holy. Right now, God is making the Israelites that will form the virgin church holy.

Christianity Etc › Re: End Time Becomes Clearer by Kei144(op): 11:21am On Jan 01, 2016

More of this topic can be seen here: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3031996/pg1

Christianity Etc › End Time Becomes Clearer by Kei144(op): 11:19am On Jan 01, 2016

The biblical end time can be divided into two: the time of birth pains and the time of great tribulations.

1. The Time of Birth Pains

Mt. 24:7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
Mt. 24:8 All these are the beginning of birth-pains.

The time of birth pains will be marked by major wars. The wars will cause famines; weather problems (drought) may also contribute to cause famines.

Re. 6:1 I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!”
Re. 6:2 I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
Re. 6:3 When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!”
Re. 6:4 Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword.

The time of birth pains is same with the time of the seven seals of the book of Revelation. The breaking of the second seal ushers in the wars.

Politics › Re: Why Corruption Is Holding Africa Back by Kei144(op): 6:22pm On Dec 30, 2015

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Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis Assures Atheists: You Don’t Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Kei144(op): 6:19pm On Dec 30, 2015

YourMain:
This guy is literally making stuff up as he goes. As if atheists believe in heaven or hell.

Ro. 2:11 For God does not show favouritism.
Ro. 2:12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.
Ro. 2:13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.
Ro. 2:14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law,
Ro. 2:15 since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)
Ro. 2:16 This will take place on the day when God will judge men’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

The Pope's response is obviously based on the above Scripture. Contrary to what you hear in many churches today, human beings will be judged based on their conducts in the land of the living. The advantage a believer in Christ has is that s/he can receive the Holy Spirit, who could then help her/him to always manifest a holy conduct.

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Christianity Etc › Pope Francis Assures Atheists: You Don’t Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by Kei144(op): 6:08pm On Dec 30, 2015

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In comments likely to enhance his progressive reputation, Pope Francis has written a long, open letter to the founder of La Repubblica newspaper, Eugenio Scalfari, stating that non-believers would be forgiven by God if they followed their consciences.

Responding to a list of questions published in the paper by Mr Scalfari, who is not a Roman Catholic, Francis wrote: “You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing – that God’s mercy has no limits if you go to him with a sincere and contrite heart. The issue for those who do not believe in God is to obey their conscience.

“Sin, even for those who have no faith, exists when people disobey their conscience.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-assures-atheists-you-don-t-have-to-believe-in-god-to-go-to-heaven-8810062.html

Politics › Re: Bad, Bad News: Oil Prices To Drop To Between $5 And $15 In 2016 – IMF by Kei144(op): 5:40pm On Dec 30, 2015

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Politics › Bad, Bad News: Oil Prices To Drop To Between $5 And $15 In 2016 – IMF by Kei144(op): 5:28pm On Dec 30, 2015

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The days ahead may just be harder than envisaged as the International Monetary Fund (IMF), Thursday, said crude oil prices may slump to as low as $20 per barrel in 2016.

https://www.thetrentonline.com/bad-bad-news-oil-prices-to-drop-to-between-5-and-15-in-2016-imf/

Christianity Etc › Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Kei144(m): 2:15pm On Dec 27, 2015

otiigba1:
in other words just believe, do not worry about your behaviour right? Go out and commit murder! As long as you belive in jesus, you are okay! Just wondering o!

That's why many born agains today are disgrace to Jesus.

Christianity Etc › Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Kei144(m): 1:59pm On Dec 27, 2015

Highcuerayte:
That is why i said Nigerians understanding of the world salvation is wrong.

Salvation simply put is getting you recreated to do more good than wrong. As you walk with Christ in Faith you begin to see the possibility of doing good always. Salvation is all about moral perfection.

Great!

Christianity Etc › Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Kei144(m): 1:49pm On Dec 27, 2015

Highcuerayte:
For clarity purpose, all "Christains"(by christains i mean followers of Christ and not follower of Christainity) are freed from sin at salvation. For sins will no longer have dominion over you.

I don't know about you, but i know of every Christains, they live above sin.

May i say you shed light on this statement " Only those who are filled with all the fullness of God at the time of the rapture will follow in the rapture."

Accepting Jesus into your life is not really salvation. Modern day churches preach that salvation is an instantaneous thing, but it is not.

Mt. 7:13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
Mt. 7:14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Mt. 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in [Or into] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Mt. 28:20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the
age.”

Ph. 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed — not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence — continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
Ph. 2:13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

Baptism into Jesus Christ, which is accepting Jesus into your life, is just the gate, the beginning. After you enter the gate, you then travel on the narrow road that leads to eternal life.

Lk. 13:22 Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem.
Lk. 13:23 Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He said to them,
Lk. 13:24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.
Lk. 13:25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, `Sir, open the door for us.’ “But he will answer, `I don’t know you or where you come from.’

Christianity Etc › Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Kei144(m): 1:33pm On Dec 27, 2015

Highcuerayte:
Lol..... Bro you are both saying the same thing. I don't see why you have difficulty seeing the agreement between both.

Do you know God standard for you is to be unconscious of sin as a son? Spend your life not thinking of how to avoid sin? This can only be done by listening to the direct voice of God that guides you everyday and not the listless list of "thou shall not"

The issue is not about thinking about how to avoid sins. Spending your life thinking means that one is depending on human power. The real issue is the nature within. You either have a sinful nature (inherited from Adam) or the divine (holy) nature that the Spirit gives. The solution to sin is to receive the divine nature. How does a person receive the divine nature? That is the question that the churches are supposed to be occupied with. Once you receive the divine nature, it becomes impossible for you to commit sin. Instead of the false statement that you commonly hear, that it is impossible for a human being not to sin, the converse is the case for a person that inherits the divine nature; it is impossible for such a person to commit sin.

Christianity Etc › Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Kei144(m): 1:22pm On Dec 27, 2015

Highcuerayte:
The problem i see is, Nigerians have plethora of Pastors but Teachers of the bible are few. What beats me my brother is their hardness of heart. Christainity without Christ. Religion without the Holy Spirit.

I see them attack you from different angles with scriptures their understanding of is epileptic. The precedents of which they have been brought up in: bible instead of Spirit.

Only if God will multiplies teachers of the Bible like us who can teach these people to be Spiritual persons instead of Religious persons.

So many things are wrong in Nigerians understanding of Faith, Salvation and Grace

You obviously are not a great teacher of the Bible. Even the OP is not a great teacher. He posted some points that look very much like the new gospels being preached in numerous churches today. It was only when seriously challenged that he began to clarify his stance.

By the way, it is one thing to say that it takes the Holy Spirit to be holy, which is being said by everyone any way, and another thing to go into the practicalities. So many people in this country talk about giving their lives to Christ and about the Holy Spirit, yet you cannot rely on many of them over simple matters.

Christianity Etc › Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Kei144(m): 1:12pm On Dec 27, 2015

Toks2008:
Please lets save each other the rhetorics..can you please answer these questions..

1.Have you ever sinned since you gave your life to Christ giving your status as a pastor?

2.Are you so certain that in the future you will never commit any sin?

Please i need a simple YES or NO..no long epistle.

He. 10:26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,
He. 10:27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.

Now that I have come to know very clearly the secret of holiness, sinning again in the future means that I have deliberately chosen Satan over God. I will never choose Satan over God.

Christianity Etc › Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Kei144(m): 1:02pm On Dec 27, 2015

Toks2008:
Infact before i wrote this..the Holy spirit asked me that "Do i know that no one who ever received Jesus as lord and Saviour has any business with HELL"?

I answered "HOW"?

And this write up came pouring into my spirit and GOD made me understand that many believers in christ leave out the Holy spirit and that by their own power they can never live a righteous life but if they can only allow the holy spirit to take over,ther is no sin that will be too powerful to keep them in bondage.

If you see any believer committing any form of sin with impunity then that believer does not have the holy spirit working in him.Sins wil be repulsive to you if the holy spirit takes over..

Infact do you know that i force myself to sin? funny but true because the holy spirit has taken over me completely that even when i want to do some certain things that are sinful,i practically fight to yield rather than fighting not to.

The death of christ is too powerful,too precious and too awesome to just allow a believer end up in hell...every believer who ends up in hell brought that upon him or herself.

I repeat,if you are a believer reading this and you have wondered away..it is time to come back to Jesus oh My Jesus will nevr ever forsake you and if you have any sinful act you are struggling with please stop struggling,cal on the holy spirit and he will blot out that sinful act that you will not believe how repulsive it will be to you...PLEASE TRY THE HOLY SPIRIT AND SEE HOW POWERFUL HE IS.

This your post is good.

Christianity Etc › Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Kei144(m): 12:56pm On Dec 27, 2015

Toks2008:
Bravo and i agre with this 500% so can i ask just this one question pastor?

Since you gave your life to Christ(Assumption) Have you never ever committed just one act of sin?

After I gave my life to Christ, I could not completely rise above sin. My obedience to God's commandments continued to improve, but some sins in my life stubbornly remained. But I knew that I am supposed to be sinless. Over the years, I searched the Bible for the key to being sinless. Very recently, I found it.

The Experience of Apostle Paul

Ro. 7:21 So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me.
Ro. 7:22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law;
Ro. 7:23 but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members.
Ro. 7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?
Ro. 7:25 Thanks be to God — through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
Ro. 8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, [Some later manuscripts Jesus, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit,]
Ro. 8:2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.
Ro. 8:3 For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man,
Ro. 8:4 in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.

Paul did not believe in Jesus, until he had a great encounter with him on his way to Damascus. In that encounter, Paul accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior. He was led to Damascus a blind man; there he was baptized into Jesus Christ and also received the Holy Spirit. Even though he had given his life completely to Jesus Christ, he was being greatly harassed by sin. He called himself a wretched man because he knew that there could be no spiritual progress as long as sin reigned in him. He had a strong desire for salvation from sin. He asked, “Who will rescue me from this body of death?”

Mt. 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

Paul hungered and thirsted for righteousness, so God revealed to him the secret of righteousness. The secret is that the righteous requirements of the law can be fully met only in those who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. Through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life sets these people free from the law of sin and death.

Paul began to live according to this secret principle of righteousness and saw his life free from sin, without exerting much will power. He found it so easy to stay unmarried, without being disturbed by sensual lust.

https://www.nairaland.com/2821450/conquer-sin#41307201

The reason why I have posted a strong objection to your OP is because we are close to the rapture. Only those who are filled with all the fullness of God at the time of the rapture will follow in the rapture. Being filled with the fullness of the Spirit is a progressive thing. One cannot make much spiritual progress if s/he is not free from sin.

Christianity Etc › Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Kei144(m): 12:27pm On Dec 27, 2015

Toks2008:
Please can you just correct us at least to save the souls of those people im working so hard to deceive?

You can get all the correction you need here: https://www.nairaland.com/2821450/conquer-sin

Christianity Etc › Re: 8 Amazing facts about salvation you will not hear in many churches. by Kei144(m): 12:23pm On Dec 27, 2015

Toks2008:
What you are about to read will change your life forever.

After reading this, you will be filled with indescribable peace that surpasses all human understanding because you will know for sure that you no longer have business with hell but guaranteed a place in paradise.

Some may call it heresy but that is exactly what the devil wants you to believe it is whereas it is the greatest truth GOD wants the world to know and the devil never ever wants the world to know. This is why 99% of pastors will never preach it but would rather preach the need to live a sinless life and in-fact will give us a picture of perfection in acts and thoughts as the only criteria to making heaven.

Read on:

1. Do you know that in the past before Jesus came to pay the permanent price,the Israelis which were a symbolic representation of GOD's people were commanded by GOD to make animal sacrifice for atonement of their sins?

This means whenever they fall into sins or commit sinful acts,once they sacrifice the animal, all these sins are automatically wiped off by GOD.Yes there is a sacrifice for the atonement of all sins and that's done on the Day of Atonement by the High Priest. Interestingly enough, it is a goat and not a lamb that takes the sin of all Israel out of the borders of Israel.(Leviticus 16)

2.The crucifixion of Christ on the wooden cross is a one time symbolic representation of the Animal sin offering on the wooden platform of old meaning it has taken away the sins of yesterday,today and tomorrow once and for all:

Unlike the repeated sacrifices made in the past for the cleansing of sins each year or anytime they sin,the death and resurrection of Christ has cleansed us from the sins of the past,present and that of the future.

Because the blood of bulls and rams can not take away the sins of the world.GOD sent a human lamb to take away the sins of the world.This means as long as you have accepted Christ as lord and Saviour,if you fall into sin,all you ned is to go on your kneels and ask for forgiveness Which can be likened to making animal offering to atone for any sin you commit.(Hebrews 10:4)

3. No matter how hard you try, As human beings, it is impossible to be sinless and GOD knows this.

My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.(1 John 2:1)

4.Many people in hell fire today have no business been there but because they gave up their salvation making conclusions that they are no good for GOD's kingdom.

Giving your life to Christ and living a righteous life sometimes do not come automatically.It takes the work of the Holy spirit to perfect your salvation whereas accepting Jesus as lord as Saviour is a decision.

When i was young i usually get mocked when i do somethings that are not expected of a "Born again" Christian and i would have easily given up way back. This is the case of many people burning in hell today..they voluntarily gave up their salvation because they found themselves doing those things they use to do before they accepted Christ but if only they knew that all they need to do is to fight on and ask the holy spirit to perfect their salvation,they would have been made a better believer by the help of the holy spirit.

The bible says its not by power or by might but by my spirit says the lord.(Zechariah 4:6)

5. Most of the Bible heroes were not righteous by human standard.

The Bible does not attempt to conceal the foibles of the great people that adorn its pages. Abraham, Isaac, Moses, David, etc., were normal human beings. They sinned like all other offspring of Adam who have matured to a level of personal accountability (Romans 3:10, 23). Jesus Christ was the only exception (Hebrews 4:15; 1 Peter 2:22).

6. Anytime you sin,simply go on your kneels and ask GOD to forgive you in the name of JESUS(A symbol of animal sacrifice Israelis make each time they sin against GOD and you will be automatically forgiven)

This is so interesting yet very mysterious for many people to comprehend that the grace of Christ covers any sin we commit and we can always ask for forgiveness whenever we sin and the sins will be forgiven.

"Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God" (Romans 5)

7.GOD never condemns you except you condemn yourself.

Stop condemning yourself friend, 99.9% of believers will battle with one sinful habit or the other till they die.Its about trusting Jesus to forgive them each time they fall into this sinful act but the first step is to accept him as your lord and savior then ask the holy spirit to help you overcome these sinful habits and try your best to allow him.

8.A true believer does not enjoy sinful acts neither plans for it or looks forward to sinning.

Paul asks "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase?Absolutely not ! How can we who died to sin still live in it?Or are you unaware that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?Therefore we were buried with Him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we too may walk in a new way of life.(Romans 6:1-4)

He also said “if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins”(Hebrews 10:26)

CONCLUSION: The grace of GOD is not for us to enjoy sinning and continuously ask for forgiveness but its for us to live above the power of sins in our lives.

But if everyone alive today gives their lives to Jesus and hold on to their salvation no matter how hard they struggle with sins. Heaven will be a home for all.

Hope this helps

A lot of people will miss the kingdom of God because of this kind of fake gospel.

Mt. 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptising them in [Or into] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Mt. 28:20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Mt. 5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practises and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Politics › Re: Why Corruption Is Holding Africa Back by Kei144(op): 9:37pm On Dec 25, 2015

Bevista:
This is the exact reason why PMB's anti-corruption crusade is the TOP priority of this administration.

PDP bots might point to the Economy and other sectors as more critical but the truth is that they are not really interested in those sectors, they just want to distract PMB from his anti-corruption drive.

PMB's so-called anti-corruption crusade is only targeted at the big-money corruption. Unfortunately, the amount of corruption, in terms of the total volume of money involved, is actually more with the small-money corruption. Greater percentage of the population is more affected by the small-money corruption. All it takes to deal with small-money corruption is an experience of life in another country with low level of corruption and an intelligent analysis of the corruption mechanism in Nigeria. In fact, application of intelligence (IQ) is what is lacking in this country.

I lived in the kingdom of Swaziland and I owned a car there. Living in Swaziland gave me opportunity to spend some time in South Africa and some other southern African countries. The only thing the Police cares about is that your vehicle license is visibly pasted on the windscreen and that you possess a valid riving license. The police is also interested in ensuring that front seat belts are put on. Having insurance cover is purely your business. You don't carry the blue book of the vehicle around; you only need it if you want to sell the vehicle.

Here in Nigeria, in the early 2000s, the FRSC was only concerned about seat belt, fire extinguisher, worn out tyres and drivers license. Road users soon complied with all those demands and opportunities for FRSC officials to extort money from the public waned. Then they came up with new frivolous rules. I don't know who approves such obnoxious rules for them and make the crazy rules laws. The fire extinguisher must be of certain size and of certain age. The vehicle must hold torch light. The tyres must not expire (in a country with no known tyre manufacturing company). The windscreen and rear view mirrors must have no cracks. All these rules in a very poor African country! Yet when real road emergency arises, you may not see the FRSC around.

The same thing with the Police. It is their duty to force vehicle owners to patronize the Insurance companies, yet when accidents occur, the Insurance companies are never involved. You must possess road worthiness paper, even though FRSC and VIO officials are always harassing drivers about the condition of their vehicles. You must have a copy of Proof of Ownership paper, even if you are not the owner of the vehicle. Etc. I hear that all these ridiculous papers that Police people look for generate money for the government. So, in the name of revenue generation, the government provides opportunities for government agents to daily extort money from the citizens. Life in Nigeria is horrible for the common people. No wonder some opposition group calls the country a zoo.

Both the governments and government officials in Nigeria are only interested in revenue generation, both for government coffers and private pockets of the government officials. Can you imagine the former FRSC controller (or whatever the position is called), Chidoka from my own state, getting former President Jonathan to approve for him to change vehicle number plates and suddenly change the drivers' license and jack up the cost of a new drivers' license, all with the excuse of generating money for the Federal government? The Nigerian public didn't see any need to revolt against such moves, because they are a down-trodden people. The Police swiftly followed by asking all vehicle owners to register their vehicles online, with a cost of 3,500 naira; the Federal Legislature saved us from the Police harassment. The government of this country and the government officials have really made this country an animal farm--a zoo. The reason why the people of this country tolerate all these abuses of the government on its people is because most people have never lived outside the country.

If PMB is really interested in anti-corruption crusade, the government must find other ways of generating revenue, such a increasing the cost of the annual vehicle license,and expunge all the obnoxious rules and laws that enable the Police, FRSC and other government officials to extort money from the public.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Salvation Revisited by Kei144(op): 8:42pm On Dec 25, 2015

For more of this topic, visit http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3036963/pg1, if you can.

Politics › Why Corruption Is Holding Africa Back by Kei144(op): 8:21pm On Dec 25, 2015

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A new report has found that over half of Africans think corruption is increasing.

"Poverty and exclusion"

"Corruption creates and increases poverty and exclusion. While corrupt individuals with political power enjoy a lavish life, millions of Africans are deprived of their basic needs like food, health, education, housing, access to clean water and sanitation," said José Ugaz, chair of Transparency International, in a statement.

The NGO estimates that around 75 million people in Sub-Saharan Africa have paid a bribe in the past year. The poor fare the worst -- they are twice as likely as the richest in the region to have had to make payoffs according to the report.

"This might be because poor people feel powerless to stand up against a corrupt official, or because rich people use their connections to avoid paying such bribes," says Coralie Pring, corruption surveys research coordinator at Transparency International.

The police and courts -- institutions which exist to safeguard citizen's rights -- are seen as the most corrupt, with over a quarter of those who had dealings with them saying that they had paid a bribe.

"When coming into contact with the police, more than a quarter of people told us that they needed to bribe either to get assistance from the officer, or to avoid a problem like passing a checkpoint or avoid a fine or arrest, which is further evidence that graft is undermining the rule of law and allows people to get away unpunished for their crimes," says Pring.

One in five

Nearly one in five Africans paid bribes to obtain official documents, and access to medical care is sometimes negotiated through an unofficial fee, gift or favor.

The survey, which polled over 43,000 people in 28 Sub-Saharan countries, also found that half or more of those who paid bribes did so multiple times a year.

"Corruption is the single biggest threat to Africa's growth"

"Corruption is the single biggest threat to Africa's growth," says Ali Mufuruki, CEO of Tanzania's Infotech Investment Group and member of the International Monetary Fund's Group on sub-Saharan Africa.

"The solution lies in good, ethical leadership, strong and enforceable laws against corruption, severe sanctions for corruption crimes underpinned by a national culture of promoting ethics from family to national level, "he adds.

Most governments are seen as not doing enough to combat the problem, but citizens of the continent's biggest economies expressed the most pessimistic outlook. In South Africa more than four-in-five people said they have seen corruption rise recently and in Nigeria the figure stands at 75%. However the two countries have diverse bribery levels -- South Africa stands at just 7% while Nigeria is at 43% according to Transparency International.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/24/africa/africa-corruption-transparency-international/index.html

Christianity Etc › Re: You Can Conquer Sin by Kei144(op): 4:53pm On Dec 24, 2015

Practice of the Principle of Righteousness

The principle: The righteous requirements of the law can be fully met only in those who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. Through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life sets these people free from the law of sin and death.

The principle can only be practiced through Jesus Christ. Have you been baptized into the name of Jesus Christ since you accepted him as your Lord and Savior? It is only through water baptism that you can be baptized into the name of Jesus Christ. Unless you are baptized into that name, the power behind sin may resist any effort you make to overcome it.

Ac. 4:12 Salvation is found in no-one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”

Only those who are controlled by the Holy Spirit can conquer the sinful nature. Have you received the Holy Spirit since you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?

Ro. 8:13 For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live,
Ro. 8:14 because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

Recall that Paul received Jesus as his Lord and Savior, was baptized in water into the name of Jesus and received the Holy Spirit. Even after all these, sin was harassing him. What moved God to save him from sin was his great desire for personal holiness. You must continually have great hunger and thirst for righteousness. Then, as you continuously pray to God to put to death the sinful nature in you and manifest in you and through you the fruit of righteousness, by His Holy Spirit, you will continuously grow in righteousness.

Christianity Etc › Re: You Can Conquer Sin by Kei144(op): 3:58pm On Dec 24, 2015*

The Experience of Apostle Paul

Ro. 7:21 So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me.
Ro. 7:22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law;
Ro. 7:23 but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members.
Ro. 7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?
Ro. 7:25 Thanks be to God — through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
Ro. 8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, [Some later manuscripts Jesus, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit,]
Ro. 8:2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death.
Ro. 8:3 For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man,
Ro. 8:4 in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.

Paul did not believe in Jesus, until he had a great encounter with him on his way to Damascus. In that encounter, Paul accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior. He was led to Damascus a blind man; there he was baptized into Jesus Christ and also received the Holy Spirit. Even though he had given his life completely to Jesus Christ, he was being greatly harassed by sin. He called himself a wretched man because he knew that there could be no spiritual progress as long as sin reigned in him. He had a strong desire for salvation from sin. He asked, “Who will rescue me from this body of death?”

Mt. 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.

Paul hungered and thirsted for righteousness, so God revealed to him the secret of righteousness. The secret is that the righteous requirements of the law can be fully met only in those who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. Through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life sets these people free from the law of sin and death.

Paul began to live according to this secret principle of righteousness and saw his life free from sin, without exerting much will power. He found it so easy to stay unmarried, without being disturbed by sensual lust.

The reason why I can write this piece is because, by the grace of God, I recently understood the secret of righteousness and began to operate the principles. My life has been undergoing serious transformation.

Christianity Etc › Re: You Can Conquer Sin by Kei144(op): 3:22pm On Dec 24, 2015

Why do we need to be Sinless?

Sin brought about the fall of man. Any person who is not sinless is still fallen. Any person that gets rid of sin from her/his life has risen up from the fall. It is very strange to hear a person who still commits sin claiming that s/he is saved and that others are sinners.

Ge. 3:22 And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
Ge. 3:23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.
Ge. 3:24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side [Or placed in front] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

God drove man away from the tree of life because of sin. Man can never get to the tree of life unless sin can no longer be found in him.

Mt. 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God.

Christianity Etc › You Can Conquer Sin by Kei144(op): 2:54pm On Dec 24, 2015

Mk. 9:23 “`If you can’?” said Jesus. “Everything is possible for him who believes.”

Everything is possible for any person that believes in Jesus. But the Christian gospel being preached today supposes that it is impossible for a human being to conquer sin. The message commonly heard among Christians today is that God knows that we cannot obey His commandments and so sent Jesus to keep them for us and die for our sins, so that anyone who gives her/his life to Jesus does not have to bother to keep God’s laws because Jesus’s obedience is substituted for our disobedience. Unfortunately, this new gospel is a clever deceit by the devil, and the devil has captured and trapped many Christians by it.

1Jn. 3:4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.
1Jn. 3:5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.
1Jn. 3:6 No-one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No-one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
1Jn. 3:7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous.
1Jn. 3:8 He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.
1Jn. 3:9 No-one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.
1Jn. 3:10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.

Jesus purpose of coming to the world is to take away our sins. If sins are taken away, they will no longer be seen in us. Anyone who is not righteous is not a child of God. Only righteous people are children of God. Unfortunately, the new gospel now condemns personal righteousness and brands it “self-righteousness”. It says that personal righteousness of Jesus covers all who have received Jesus, so that their personal righteousness doesn’t matter. That is a lie of the devil.

Christianity Etc › Pope Says This May Be Our Last Christmas by Kei144(op): 8:09pm On Dec 23, 2015

Pope Francis told crowds in St. Peter’s Square that this Christmas might be the last one for humanity.

In a grim speech, the Pope said that the current chaotic state of the world marks the beginning of the “end times”, and that this time next year the world is likely to be unrecognisable.

Francis, who previously announced the beginning of World War 3, had labelled this year’s Christmas as a “charade” during a Mass at the Casa Santa Maria earlier in the month.

“We are close to Christmas. There will be lights, there will be parties, bright trees, even Nativity scenes – all decked out – while the world continues to wage war,” he said earlier in December.

The Pontiff, who turned 79 on Thursday, elaborated on his views this weekend, telling a crowd, “While the world starves, burns, and descends further into chaos, we should realise that this year’s Christmas celebrations for those who choose to celebrate it may be their last“.

http://yournewswire.com/pope-says-this-may-be-our-last-christmas/

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Salvation Revisited by Kei144(op): 9:17am On Dec 21, 2015

The two trees at the center

Mt. 4:3 The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”
Mt. 4:4 Jesus answered, “It is written: `Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of
God.’“

God formed a new Adam in the womb of Virgin Mary and gave angels charge to protect him in every way. By the time the new Adam was about thirty years old, he went to the River Jordan where he was baptized by John the Baptist. At this point he was exactly where the first Adam was in Ge. 2:7. God put the first Adam in a garden that He planted; the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil were at the center of the garden. In the case of the new Adam, God moved him to the desert; and there also were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil at the center.

The tree of life is always the first to reach out His hand to an Adam through His word. As Jesus (the new Adam) was growing up, he got to hear and know the word of God. Now, here in the desert, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil suddenly comes for Jesus, by his word. Jesus was to choose between the word of God and the word of Satan; he chose what is written in the word of God.

Lk. 4:13 When the devil had finished all this tempting, he left him until an opportune time.
Lk. 4:14 Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about him spread through the whole countryside.

Mt. 4:11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

Satan tempted Jesus severally, but Jesus continued to choose the word of God. when the devil saw that Jesus could never accept his word, he left Jesus, to wait for an opportune time. Angels of God came an greatly empowered Jesus, so that when he returned to Galilee, it was in the power of the Spirit, and news about him was everywhere.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Salvation Revisited by Kei144(op): 9:15am On Dec 21, 2015

Then came Jesus

He. 10:5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me;
He. 10:6 with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased.
He. 10:7 Then I said, `Here I am — it is written about me in the scroll — I have come to do your will, O God.’“ [Psalm 40:6-8

"Christ" in He. 10:5 is the Holy Spirit of God, the fruit of the tree of life. In He 10:5, "when Christ came into the world" refers to when a human being could receive the fruit of the tree of life. He. 10:5 is talking about the reversal of the fall of man. Man fell when God kicked him off His garden, away from the fruit of the tree of life (Ge. 3:23-24). He. 10:5 talks about when a man ate the fruit of the tree of life into his inner being. Incidentally, no descendant of Adam was qualified to receive the fruit of the tree of life because the inner being was hewn out of Adam's inner being, which means that the inner being was already possessed by the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

God had to form a new man--an Adam. The new man apparently inherited the physical body of an adamic woman (Mary), but since the spiritual man can only be hewn out of a father, the new man did not inherit the old Adam's inner being because he had no earthly father. His conception was a creation of the Holy Spirit of God. God birthed his inner being exactly as He did to the first Adam during the creation of man. The new Adam thus started with a virgin inner being. The inner being had received neither the fruit of the tree of life nor the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The new Adam had to choose which of the two trees to receive its fruit.

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