₦airaland Forum

davidzfarm18:
@Kelvin96,
I've not heard of embacerly b4 . can I get it from a vet store.

Yes most vet stores has it. Embaceryl and Embazin forte are from the same company

FarmTech:
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But I thought Embaceryl contains tylosin? It also contains vitamins. When giving any antibiotic, I always combine them with a multivit, if not there will be a drop in production or growth.

Yes it has tylosin, but with some vitamins that is compatible with each other.
If i decides to give tylosin on its own accompany with any vitamins to my laying birds, how do i tell the mixing ratio between the two? or will i just take some amount of the vitamin and add to the tylosin? for me(My own view) i think it is a gamble. when your birds are at their peak and you gamble with them, the result might not be good. But for embaceryl , it has been well prepared for the that purpose.
So i prefer using embaceryl than mixing tylosin with vitamins on laying birds.....Or i might risk using anitylodox (Anidoxityle)

bigiyaro:
am in jos, i can also enter kaduna n abj any time if need be.

Okay Call this number 08030625145 his name is pius, He works with koudijs, He should be able to link you up with someone in your region. Goodluck Brother.

FarmTech:
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My last batch of birds were prone to crd and to prevent frequent illness, I have to give tylodox every month. And I did not record any drop or ceasation of egg production. Even u can mix it in feed (@ preventive dose) to prevent crd as shown here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/471896/. The drug that shud not be given to layers are sulfa-based drugs.

Hmmm.....Good to hear it worked for you, bro I read that same article before i treated mine three years back, and i regretted doing it... i cant try it on my laying birds again. I did it once, twice and it wrecked my production. I only use tylosin few weeks to POl. And if i happen to come across CRD in my laying flock i just use embacerly.

Juliana7:
Wow @kelvin u are awesome with ur invaluable response to questions thank u. Pls @kelvin d SELKO PH u recommended to obnelly can it be gotten from a vet store here in nigeria. And also @grownaira u are d "bomb", thanks for responding to my question. Thanks

Yes you can get the selko PH from Vet shops. Please note that Selko PH is in liquid form.

omotititi:
@Kelvin...thank you for all ur valuable contributions. Please where are you located in Benin so that i can visit your farm to learn and also exchange the little i know with you sir.

Bros you be my chairman ooo. My farm is at km 19 benin/sapele road Just by Rubber research Junction. I will be so happy to see you sir.

bigiyaro:
my oga @kelvin96, pls were do u get this galdus prestarter n kbc, i really need it for incomin broilers. Thanks.

Where is your location?

FarmTech:
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Why do you say that? I used it for mine to treat crd and that's what lab result recommended.

yes definately it will take care of the crd....if d birds are laying, it will crash the production, and it will take a very long time before they can bounce back,that is if they ve not gone far in their laying circle . And for pol, it delays them from laying on time.

Kbc 10

Juliana7:
@kelvin, what did u mix with kbc(koudjis broiler concentrate) to get a balanced feed for d broiler just like what akaytopsy did for layers, which he posted in d previous post. Thanks

grownaira:
Oga kelvin, which one be galdus pls?
And when u said 2Kg, u mean live weight or dressed?

As regard how to mix the KBC 10,



Starter 0 - 17 days; KBC10 125 kg, maize 600 kg, soya meal 275 kg.



Grower 17 - 37 days; KBC10 100 kg, maize 650 kg, soya meal 250 kg



Finisher after 37 days; KBC10 80 kg, maize 695 kg, soya meal 225 kg.


There is another one called kbc30

Starter
Maize: 650
kbc30: 350


Finisher: 650
Kbc30: 300
Wheat Offal: 50

And for Galdus , it is a prestarter feed directly from holland, made by koudijs.
It helps the birds builds their digestive trait.
You can read more about it here
http://www.koudijs.deheus.com/feed-solutions/poultry/day-old-chicks

@grownaira, the 2kg i talked about is live weight.

AkayTopsy:
@omotititi and eggxel you're welcome.

Thanx grownaira. if mixing E.S.T Mix with the feed is as effective as mixing it in their water then it isreally COST EFFECTIVE using the feed bro.

@Kelvin96 what's your experience with Koudjis Concentrate pls.

The best i have seen so far..... For broilers, i can get 2kg for 6 weeks birds, but i have to start them with galdus, for the first seven days.

[quote author=obnelly post=33933004][/quote]Yes you can use it for them.

kengeorge:
What do you do when you discover that your point of lay birds have CRD? most of the time it leads to early lay mortality and it is very difficult to treat. which kind of medication can help you through this phase as I have used tylosin based drug, enrofloxacin and the situation just persist.

You really dont have to wait for them to fall down before treating them. if i were you i will use tylosin or tylodox for them when they are 10-12 weeks ...Please dont use tylosin for laying birds or for POL birds

omotititi:
Thank you AkayTopsy. I will check their website and get a contact number to call. I appreciate.

Or you can Mr Francis @ 08062614341, He is currently their rep in benin

For those of us picking birds(broilers) from zartech farms, i think what we should watch out for is CRD. And the only way you can do tackle this CRD issue , is adhere to their Medication program.
I happen to have one of their program ...This program was given to me by Ziad (He was incharge of the benin Branch) But i think he has been replaced.

Day 1-5 ......Tylosin +vitamin+Enrofloxacin
Day 7-11.....Furaltadone(Dose- 1gram to 5liter)
Day 21-23...Tylosin +Vitamin+Enrofloxacin or Ciprofoxacin
And please no feed for the broilers for the first 3 hours, only water and drugs.

I have been using this program alongside the program my vet gave to me, that one has the vaccination schedule on it and CRD has been a thing of the past in my broilers.
And for those guys who pick birds from other hacteries, i think u can still use dis as a guide. Sometimes when i pick birds from other hacteries, what i do is very simple.....I use my normal program, but at day 6 to 9 i use tylosin and enrofloxacin for them, them after 2weeks i repeat same treatment again....And CRD will never come back, as long as you dont overcrowd them or dent them proper ventilation....

omejeo:
thanks oga grow naira and other oga in the house i hav started giving them pantacox and change their litters lost 20 hope others can make it

SINCE YOU HAVE STARTED WITH PANTACOX, PLACE THEM ON IT FOR LIKE 5-7 DAYS. NO VITAMIN DURING THOSE PERIOD PLEASE.
THEY WILL BOUNCE BACK FULLY.....GOODLUCK

omejeo:
pls oga grownaira my 4wks broiler their stool is blood what wil do to them thanks. they dont eat and they are week

Get Embazin forte for three days then, give ordinary water for two days and then embazin forte for another three days......Or get Kepcox for two days.
And ensure you adhere to the advise given by farmtech...... ALWAYS KEEP YOUR LITTERS DRY.

eggxel:
Good afternoon house (my elders). I stumbled upon this awesome, educative thread a couple weeks back and I have really been inspired by the great nigerian minds here........the likes of jamp, obnelly, oga fnk, davidzfarm, omotiti, Rzq4, steel5800, Farmtech, laposte, AkayTopsy, kelvin96, valarinz, and all........u guys are really changing lives positively; how u have impacted knowledge and provided mentorship to many like me via this thread, is laudable, and highly commendable; such selfless service to humanity.
Having read every single page on the thread upto the 127th, I deemed it necessary to post for the first time and say a big thank you guys. Two weeks ago I knew absolutely nothing about running a poultry farm (even though iv always incubated plans of setting up one). Iv learnt quite alot but I also know the experience on the farm is a different kettle of fish .
I intend setting up in a couple of weeks; I would be finalizing agreements on the land im purchasing for the farm. Its 5 plots (each plot is 100 by 100). As a newbie, I intend to start small with 500 birds at point of lay and grow from there hopefully. I will kip d house updated with my progress viz-a-viz building d coop, acquiring battery cages et al.
More grease to your elbows guys.......more like more eggs to your crates. Cheers.

Welcome to our world . I wish you all the best .

davidzfarm18:
PRAISE GOD.
SAW THE 1ST EGG TODAY @ 17WEEKS 5 DAYS.

Congrat man.That is goodnews

segun1976:
Thanks for the clarification. The "how" & reason for sorting is now clear.

are you picking them directly from the hacthery or someone is bringing them to you?

justified19:
ok, top feed finished feed ryt?

yes top feed is good. But it might be they are still recovering... Remember dey went deep down on ncd and u were even having mortalities then . It does takes some time for laying birds to bounce back from ncd... Please what were dey laying before u started dat treatment then?

pathology:
well ur market determine how u raise ur broilers, are u selling live wt. or kilo wt. whichever one it is u dont need any fattener bc it adds to cost of prodx with little or no added value. if ur birds are well fed i.e feeding ad libitum with regular supply of water, they will do well insha Allah. avoid switching from one feed to another, if vital stay with vital till slaughter, if amo stay wt amo till slaughter. ogas in the house more contributions pls.

your are absolutely right.

fishleg123:
I great all farmers in d houses. pls how much (in kg ) layer mash will 170 laying birds of 6 months old will eat in a day
.I want to minimize waste and avoid under feeding.
thanks.

20kg should be okay for them daily.

bigiyaro:
they were given lasota at wk1 n wk3. They will be five weeks tomorow, thursday. Should start givin them finisher? Thanks for ur help.

can u be able to tell their present weight? If dey are up to 1kg dem switch to finisher but if dey are less dan that, pls still go on with d starter and ensure u do dat treatment. They are going to bounce back fully.

bigiyaro:
they r 104, they eat 25kg vitafeed broiler starter in 4 days,i got them from zartech in jos n i have never treated cocci. Thanks

how about lasota vaccine...how many times ve u given dem? Meanwhile please place dem on embazin forte for 3 days then ordinary water for two days and embazin forte for another 3 days. And dey are suppose to be taking 7kg daily till d end of 4weeks while dey should take 8.6kg daily at 5weeks den 11kg daily at 6weeks. Good luck and pls let me know about lasota u ve given dem

jamp:
sometimes green poo do not necessarily mean newscastle disease. U should worry if d poo is watery. Dont give lasota again but administer a mild antibiotics

sometimes green poo can also mean they have typhoid xpecially the one dat looks like green leaves.. Has there been any mortality? Pls at wat age were dey given the last typhoid vaccine and what is there age now..?

@endy247 ...... use penprovit or anicillin.....it will take care of that coryza..... Goodluck.

Eggcelent:
#3000/carton?! How come? White cockrels often cost #15 each & the black, #30/one. Since when does a carton of 50 DOCs sold for 3k? While I don't have significant experience in cockrels rearing, I can submit that one differently I've seen between the black & white variant is that demand for the former is much higher. Success.

yes u nailed it.....the demands for black is higher.

bigiyaro:
ok sir. Can i get an alternetive if am unable to get d tylodox? Thanks.

tylocare is good too. Good luck .

Email:sogieizeks@gmail.com
location: benin city ,Edo state
phone number:09058196613
specialization:poultry: broilers.(frozen and brood and sale

@globaby can u call me.....07065594721.....or send me ur number

Globaby01:
stress vit, gumboro, lasota, viramix,t embazim forte. at 6wks 5 days, they are not grown for sale.

please at wat age were these vaccines given and wen last did u gave dem embazin forte?