₦airaland Forum

Again, u fail to rise above sentiments and see clearly. You call people riff raff but u have no honest reason for doing so other than mere pettiness. Biafra is not new and did not just start...why was there a civil war? IPOB has been in existence even during Jonathan'stenure and a little bit of research will show u. The gross disregard for human rights by d continued incarceration of Nnamdi Kanu is what has magnified the call for separation to its current and growing proportions.

U ask why IPOB wasn't more vocal, are they d only ones affected? Have there not been loud n stringent calls to address these issues? Is not always from the South? Have u heard d North raise d issue? So why is that?

Look around and see so much discontent except for those who benefit from this skewed system. It is the same North that has condemned the CONFAB recommendations! The same set of people that drag other regions back! U ask of implementation...do u not know the constitutional process for implementation and amendments? When there is already a shortfall of representation with the SE having 5 states while the NW has 7 and others 6, exactly how much do you expect to have been done?

The CONFAB was convened mid 2014. With all the election politics et al, when would there have been an implementation if not now? Has d current govt, representative of this same North considered it?

Jaundiced:
1). Why didn't the last administration which convened the National Conference implement the recommendations from the conference?

2). Perhaps, if you and IPOB riff raff have been more vocal about the core problems "bedevilling" Nigeria during the previous government, rather than protect people from your stock, who were the principal actors in how that government failed woefully; we'd be in a better position today.

First, my post is much longer. Read over n see.
Secondly, I am making a point that cuts across the core issues of Nigeria since her independence. It is a problem that must be resolved!

You ask for my objectivity and I ask u what has been done with all d clamour for regional control and fiscal autonomy? The last administration convened a National Conference which is one of the highlights of the former govt to address the core problems bedevilling Nigeria. What has happened to implementation?

You see, this tit for tat mentality which u just displayed has to be dropped at some point otherwise it remains a vicious cycle which Nigeria will not come out of. It is certainly a recipe for disaster because it hinders development and the true potentials of people. Like someone rightly said, Nigeria has a date with the truth!

Jaundiced:
If I'm not being cynical/jaundiced; this time last year, a selection of people controlled government machinery this time last year. Where was your objectivity and honesty then?

If we are all honest and objective, there should be no reason for any one tribe or selection of people to feel the need to 'control' any government machinery. There also shouldn't be any sense of entitlement or seeming victory over others for securing an elected position and attendant appointments. This is where I disagree with ur assertion of 'myopic decisions' and not being in the scheme of things.

You see, if Nigeria is structured the way a sane country should be, the centre will not necessarily be attractive. Anyone stepping into the office of President of the FRN will already know s/he is there to serve because laws and institutions will instil proper checks with periodic times for review in the event that the developmental blueprint for the nation in whatever capacity is not being followed.

If Nigeria is structured as it should be, no President or Governor should be able to deliberately muscle out some and favour others. Ascending such position will not breed resentment and neither will the occupier of such office be able to wield its powers for revenge against perceived non-supporters or supposed enemies from other ethnic groups.

It therefore stands to reason that this is the grouse against d current structure of Nigeria particularly by the SE and SS. The centre should not be able to decide and control d development strides of any region. Security should not be in the hands of uniformed men who do not understand the language, culture and terrain of the places they are posted to. Ascension to leadership should be constitutionally provided for in a rotational pattern bearing in mind d peculiarities of a diverse and multi-ethnic entity like Nigeria.

It is because things like this and many more are not in place and don't seem to be coming any time soon that is why Biafrans demand a separation. A situation where their choice of a candidate means they deserve relegation or they made 'myopic decisions' or they are not 'in the scheme of things' means there is a fundamental problem that is not getting addressed. The fact that an Igala man feels entitled and is sad because an Ebira man is elected means there is a problem cos it should not be so! The fact that there was palpable tension for fear of GEJ winning elections and the expected fallout of mass killing and destruction of Southerners in the North means that Nigeria is so not one!
Biafrans are not 'disgruntled elements'! The status quo is nauseating at best and totally destructive at worst so they seek a way out to decide their fate! Last I checked, self-determination is a right and nothing to do with political relevance.

bloodyBLOGGER:
@safarigirl

In your account, you stated that a bus driver of kogi igala extraction said he will prefer biafra just cos his people lost out in te just concluded kogi guber race. Remember that igbos were also pro-nigeria, just like the man, until their hero GEJ lost the presidential election.

I think your inference here is that biafra is for those that lost out in the control of nigeria. Since they can't control nigeria, they feel it's best they opt out so as to escape facing the result of their myopic decisions instead of moving on or enduring for a little while to get back in the scheme of things.

Biafra is really for disgruntled elements.

It's no news that this is how they decimate ppl front th SS and SE in their numbers. Unfortunately none can speak out clearly and it's all kept under one demonic shroud of secrecy.

It is absolutely necessary to have State police so that people serve in their various areas where they understand d terrain n language rather than posting ppl who don't know jack about any area especially when it's unsafe!

calaway:
WHY ARE YOU TRAPPED IN SELF DENIAL? THE SOUTH EAST INCLUDING ANAMBRA TURNOUT 500,000BPD YES THIS IS SMALL COMPARED TO THE REMAINDER 2000000 BUT THE FACT IS 500,000x40USD=USD20m= 5 TRILLION EVERY DAY. YET THOSE WHO GENERATE THIS ARE MARGINALIZED AND CALLED AN IRRELEVANT 5% AND A PARASITE OVERLORD OF A REGIONAL CHAMPION. NEED I REMIND YOU THAT THE IJAWS IN ONDO OWN THE OIL YOU BOAST OF AND SOON THEY WILL BE ALIVE TO THEIR DESTINY.

INJUSTICE MUST COME TO AN END. IT IS A NATURAL LAW.

Even these figures u have quoted are the ones declared o! The real truth is still hidden as to exactly how much oil is produced.
The op cannot even calmly follow thru on points raised and he's busy yelling insult n pride! A person stating the truth which he cannot counter is disrespectful in his imagination cos sound individuals refuse to bow to lies like they do!

kayo80:
You are a dumb girl that has to resort to abuse to prove a point. I can see why some people don't like your people. Very proud and cocky.

Where is the abuse in my post? U acknowledged that ur question might be a dumb one in ur op...
I have not even insulted u and here u are calling ur ppl dumb.

Still for d sake of this 'discourse' how can u justify those cut off marks? What is the pride? That u were shown up for ur fallacious assertions? Leave drama and sentiments and address issues raised since u are asking why Biafrans want out of Nigeria and u have profered ur arguments against it.

kayo80:
First of all, Igbo people don't produce the Oil that runs the nation, you guys need to stop saying that. South south people produce the oil...And they sure don't speak the Igbo language, so how would they go with you guys? Secondly, Yoruba people also have to score higher in cutoff point just as igbo children...And this is because the northern children are a bit behind when it comes to general educational level.

U can actually justify the lopsided marks for children? That attend same schools with d same curriculum? U say they are 'a bit' behind? Yet they come up to occupy major positions that those who aren't so behind are suddenly not capable of? Do the scores of 139 for Anambra and 4 for Zamfara(Male)/2 (Female) look like the range for 'a bit' of backwardness?
It is not only ur question that is dumb...

U have already answered by acknowledging that it is a dumb question.

U seriously think a hard working person or group of people should have no say or equal representation in the policy making and governance apparatus of d country in which he works hard?

Yes, the oil belongs to the region where it is found and they ought to exercise full control of it while trading of on their terms cos it is a source of income which they should deploy to their benefits. No unconnected person should be able to commandeer it and then say 'the oil in Bayelsa belongs to Jigawa'.

Are the food,cattle and precious metals like gold found in the North deemed property of d entire Nigeria? Do they not sell and consume income as they deem fit while destroying the farmlands of others?

I will now ask u,is there a right to self-determination? Even where all is fine and jolly and a people of identifiable language, culture and character within a geographical area decide that they no longer want to be joined with others is there an offence in there somewhere?

See as u said,the question is dumb. I will not extend d dumbness to ur person just yet even though the justifications for the question are also dumb.

[quote author=dunkem21 post=40773003]That your last line eh?
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Nna wetin u want make I talk? It's absolutely irritating biko! Afukwana discussion n education on d Igbos kwa?

And how wonderful has d boko haram invasion in gigantic Nigeria been? Ur line and mode of reasoning is so dead u need a resuscitation of life n values!

50desh:
Have they (Biafrans) taught of how small their military strength will be?. Imagine a boko haram invasion in a little Biafra?.

Igi gogoro ma gun mi loju, a ti okere la ti n wo.

madjnr:
Everyone knows of discrimination within igbos. It's not new. Do you know enugu people are called "waawa" by other igbos Do you know that their are igbos discriminated every day for centuries called "osu" Igbos like you and I who have nothing wrong to fellow igbos.
Do you know there are millions of igbos calling themselves "ikwerre" who would kill you for past/ancient discrimination against them if given the opportunity??
Do you know which state mocks ndi-imo as "Ala owerri'??
Do you know of the bloody hatred between Umu leri n Agu leri? ?
You want me to continue
Tell me which of this is not correct...I'm waiting

Mind your bloody business and let Biafrans 'discriminate' on their own terms and under their name! Are you so in love with them or concerned for them? Evidently not so I wonder why u have broken out in an incurable rash over Biafran matters! Have u been invited?

Are u d one to explain their peculiarities to them? There is no love lost b/w muslims and Christians. None between Biafrans and other forced partners of this contraption either so just mind d warts n disfigurement on ur face n body and let others face their issues!

In short, try urself and attack a 'waawaa' or 'Ala Owerri' person in Anambra State and vice versa and see whether your dead postulations of 'discrimination' will save u or make the Anambra ppl forsake their brothers!

These sanctimonious oafs disgust me!

Just change d package even when d content is d same.

Afterall that is how it's done for change of name.
'I, Fuel Import Subsidy now wish to be known as Fuel Import Transport Surcharge. All other documents and transactions remain valid.'

Candyrain:
Nne do you take orijin? I thought the doctor said no orijin for you again.

Ke kwanu?

O di mma nwannem. Orijin kwa? O k'anekwu okwu nu....lol.

millhouse:
guy! One odeku for you this Friday. You are so on point. .. Some Nigerians have eyes but have refused to see.

Make that orijin and I am game! Meanwhile I'm a lady...thanks

In the fullness of time...lol

That is one thing that baffles me. Someone somewhere will sit down and realising he's President will open his mouth n say corrupt politicians from d former dispensation are returning looted funds. Yet, he cannot mention names or d so-called amounts returned but will gladly point to d past administration to deliberately make a scapegoat of d former President.

These people apparently stole in their capacities as public office holders and Nigerians. If Buhari n co are going to attempt to magnify this amorphous concept of body odour/language and titillate d highly battered senses of Nigerians with what they think is great news then they had better go d whole 9 yards by identifying and prosecuting such culprits! Otherwise GMB should just keep shut and get himself real professionals who know their jobs n are ready to do them!

Candyrain:
But I didn't snitch on you brother, you know that. It was just a coincident she saw what she wasn't supposed to see.

Candy! So I wasn't supposed to see okwa ya?

Whynotthetruth:
Heiii...Atokwanu m here...Nne, candyrain be obele onwunwa...Hapu ituchasi ihea biko...hapu ihe edere na motor banye motor...hapu ihe bere n'abali ka oburu anwunta

Anwunta nkea n'ata ajo aru! Grandma must hear this o! Having given her blessings already!

Whynotthetruth:
Senate is a combination of political parties...success there has nothing to do with a given political party...Using that suggestion box is mere waste of time because you can easily get more attention by going through the House member representing you...

As for the services... Nefuoro m anya there but weather di cool

That suggestion box is total crap. When I read of it I knew we had a long way to go....

Hmmm...kam mechie onu o! Mana Candyrain gwara gi I kpo ya onye iro oganiru gi!

Whynotthetruth:
Note the bolded @Mizmycoli and ask these sadists and bigots why they applaud buhari for copying EXACTLY same measures cum initiatives of Jonathan but always ridicule Jonathan who is the copyright owner of the initiative...eg agricultural or rice initiative(dry season farming) which he launched in Kebbi state...(cf paddy rice success under Jonathan specifically in Kebbi state)...How about subsidy? subsidy major earners like Tinubu Oando, Obj conoil still enjoy whopping subsidy payment irrespective of dwindling oil price which should have forced down pump price of petroleum products too...Where's Save Nigeria group?

How about security? ...How about buhari launching 1st Peugeot Nigeria made car? does buhari know how those companies like Peugeot, Volkswagen that left Nigeria since 80's suddenly rushed back and he's snapping pictures with them?...His supporters clap and cheer him while insulting the brain behind such success stories...

PRESSID is on hold while other similar initiative that work with quota system are moving on ...and buhari is praised by bigots like passingshot ...

I CHALLENGE Passingshot & cohorts to name a SINGLE initiative of buhari since May 29th till date that doesn't have Jonathan imprint BOLDLY on it...This will show you; Mizmycoli the level of hypocrisy of these bigoted and venomous sadists that you're dealing with

I know I am late to this convo...however, in fairness to the APC they have launched a 'Suggestion Box' at the Senate which is unique and all theirs. GEJ and PDP have no copyright on this.

Meanwhile I see u charging for some services...hmm

Fant:
Wow! Thanks ma'am, yes I got your alert this morning and please it's not " a bit" actually because I never expected it and it will go a long way in sorting things out. I'm truly grateful and the God who remembered Hannah after the sacrifice at Shiloh will remember you when you need anything you can't give yourself just as you remembered me this day.

Ma'am Ifyalways I got your alert too. Thanks for always being there for me. May God cause 200 to respond when you call just 1 for help.

To God be the glory, my account now reflects my school fees with change. I believe God to also provide for the project fee as soon as He wills.

I'm grateful.

You're welcome Fant. Remain fervent and resolute...u will definitely shine bright

Wonders shall never cease

Fant:
Good afternoon family. I believe God that you are all well and kicking.

Please, I have got some things to tell everyone. First is that I'm deeply excited about the fact that I am now a final year student after the struggle. I am also pleased that my project topic (civil service reforms in Delta state : a case study) has been approved.

Secondly, I am a bit in red as regards my final year fees and project expenses. To be honest, I took like 3 days contemplating whether to post this or not. Reason being that over the years I have been able to raise my fees before resumption, so my hope was to continue that way until when I will post my BA. certificate here in celebration of the help I got when I needed it 3 years. Well, this time things didn't turn out very well for me so I had to cry out again this last time.

My final year fee is N43.000 and project fee is N15.500, totalling N58.000. At present my account balance is reading N21,364.49. Meaning I need about N37.000 to balance it up. I have been in touch with some of my relation but all I've gotten is stories upon stories. So I had to still post this even when it makes me feel like I'm bordering people with my personal affairs.

Please if God puts it in your heart to support me yet once again (you have done enough already), please let me know so I can give you my account details.
School resumed on 16th November, 2015 but I'm yet to register anyway.

Thanks for everything. God bless you all.

Hi Fant....I made u a promise last year and never fulfilled it. I am glad God has kept u till this point and u are now in ur finals. I've just done a bit now. God bless ur efforts and all others whom He has raised and will raise to help u.

ChokolateBoss:
There are 3 geopolitical zones in d north as well as 3 in d south making a total of 6. There's a good number of xtians in d north too as well as different ethnic groups (not every northerner is Hausa/Fulani).

However, when an appointment is made from d north, some biased goats start shouting about marginalization as if d entire north is one ethnic group or zone.
But when its made from d south, these same set of goats will start checking whether d person is Ibo, Ijaw, Yoruba or whatever.
The same treatment u give to d north, apply it to d south.
When Ibe Kachikwu was appointed, some sons of hate quickly disowned him that he's from SS n not SE even though he's Ibo. Yet they're quick to include his hometown Onicha-Ugbo under their useless biafra map.
Before d electn, we were all hearing how PMB was gonna islamize Nigeria n turn it to a muslim caliphate. After election, d 'religious bigot' mantra has been dropped and d 'ethnic bigot' mantra picked.
The SGF is a xtian pastor from a minority tribe in d north. Yet d sons of hate will behave as if they didn't see dat one. What nonsense!
For ur information a lot of Buhari's appointees are not even his kinsmen and they're xtians n all his appointments so far are constitutional. So shut d hell up n look for sth to wail about.
Another fact, since Nigeria gained independence, no HAUSA person has ruled it n yet we keep hearing abt Hausa/Fulani hegemony. Prove me wrong if u can.
Look at Asari Dokubo, when he was forming solidarity with those from d north central, he dropped d title of 'North Central' n referred to them as 'middle belt'. But when he wants 2 attack d north, he'll include dsame middle belt pple. What nonsense!
16yrs of democracy n d south ruled 14yrs out of it n yet we keep hearing 'north this north that'
Nairalanders will never have sense.

And b4 u say trash, I'm from delta state in d SS and i'm apolitical (though of cos I prefer PMB to GEJ)

Show some respect n regard for Christ...He's the reason we have Christians so stop blotting out His name with an 'x'. It's not such a long word either so it can't be that typing it will consume too much space.

teamchocolate:
I don't know why u pple talk without thinking.. do u work in NIMC? What do u know.. the DG is a career civil servant.. the man who was there before was ibo and his tenure had expired.. Azizi was next in line.....

Receive sense IJN. Ode!!!

You read well before u start cursing. Azizi was not next in line as u claim. He was retired and called back from retirement to head the agency. Are there no capable hands then in active service?

And some useless fool out there will come n preach one Nigeria, how these murderers are only misguided and not 'real muslims'! What validates islam other than d quran? Same quran that if one who isn't muslim touches or handles it, idiots will kill d person.

What are we doing sharing the same geographical space n name when there is no tolerance and one cannot live in peace because mad ppl believe in some crazy ideology?

RichieF27:
He commended some Igbo leaders and governors who did not support the agitation, adding that it must be condemned totally because, “we believe in dialogue, whatever the problem is with anybody, we believe we should sit down and discuss and a solution will be found.”

Source:: The Sun Newspaper
https://nigerianewspapers.com.ng/biafra-im-worried-says-sultan.html

What about the discussions at the CONFAB? What is being done with resolutions thereof? What is so indivisible about Nigeria? Lugard's words?! What is so wonderful with d current Nigeria when there is no ongoing effort to ensure equality with regions developing at their pace with their resources?

juicee1:
why didn't you clamour for those things when GEJ was in power and your ibo people held juicy posts?

Anything biafra means war. Remember, phillip effiong surrender and said biafra seize to exist. Resurrecting it is an act of war.

Biafra has been long before Jonathan else why was there a civil war? What has MASSOB been about? How many were arrested during Jonathan's tenure? There will always be turncoats n weak links but the fact remains that Biafra has never died.

War is only an effort to intimidate a people fighting for their just rights. Has IPOB or MASSOB instigated any violence? Such intimidation tactics will no longer work. Calm down n ask questions. Look around you...with all d prospects and talents in Nigeria why are we still d way we are?

Nigerian leadership has a way of muscling n silencing voices that dare to ask questions n speak d truth because of thier evil gains. Biafrans demand better leadership and will not be cowed into silence because of their Republican nature. Obviously therefore, dis Nigerian setting isn't working so why must there be war for a people to part ways with those whom they have nothing in common? Why d forced union in the first place if regions cannot develop at their pace with their resources?

Ask questions, think and let people forge their paths. If u aren't Biafran then leave them be...

rhymaster:
Shut up your trap! Iboz struck the first blow in 1966 by killing leaders from other regions. Ojucrook did the same in 1967. If you think any man worth his salt will watch as you plunder his house then you are a bigger idiot than an inanimate object. If Ibos or anyone want secession, they must find an Ojucrook to do it by war and you will get served big time! This time, Nigeria will not waste time trying to talk to you or save any death wishing ibo, you will all be hammered en-masse! Their will be no reason to capture an Ojucrook but to level the entire alaibo and if all of una die finish, good luck jonathan to you!

U emit so much ugliness n bitterness with ur words. Purge urself of hatred. Speaking ill of the dead only shows the level of ur reasoning. How did Nigeria come into existence? Is there a right to self determination? Are there problems that need to be addressed? Have they been addressed? If you'd rather masturbate in d vain hope that fellow human beings will be destroyed then you are a lost cause.

Obviously Biafra is of no benefit to u and every right thinking person needs to excise areas that bring nothing to the table so why are u foaming at the mouth at the fact that Biafra is moving on from Nigeria? You're just so rude it's alarming! Please seek help....

juicee1:
Yet some freaks are calling for a biafra war 2.0

Point of correction, Biafra does not mean or require war. It is the current Nigerian govt that keeps assuming everything has to be met with force and will always strike the first blow rather than doing what is right and correcting the economic, federating and political anomalies that have always been the bane of Nigeria in d first instance.

This is an all or nothing situation. The law and d courts do not countenance an almost concluded or inconclusive election. No party has any mandate until a winner is unequivocally declared. INEC is vested with d power to declare d winner of any election.

Where it is inconclusive as in this case, the prevailing law will guide every election whether supplementary or fresh. The law is that there must be a candidate and running mate who secured d highest votes cast during each party's primaries. Audu Abubakar/APC remain candidate till definite announcement of a winner. This did not happen before d death of a candidate ie Audu.

In the eyes of the law, it is no election if there is only one candidate and that would be the case in a supplementary election with just James Adeleke. Again, an individual that replaces d deceased cannot assume d votes of another candidate though od same party. It is not a mere swap.

In view of current happenings, the most likely scenario will be fresh elections within a stipulated time frame and within which time d parties would have submitted a complete set of candidate n running mate.

Such blatant illegality! Hope that is an error that can be explained