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CHANGE! I wonder where the change is if they do same things GEJ did and defend their actions by telling you GEJ did same...how then have u changed anything other than d name n party at the centre?

The painful part is that if things go wrong and I pray they don't, all Nigerians will suffer including those who cried out but had their voices drowned out by the propaganda of CHANGE!

I pray for my sake and that of well meaning Nigerians that things go right or the long awaited separation is actualized so people can take their fates in their hands with people of common beliefs and ideologies.

Did anyone see the video? Pls post it as a separate link if possible. Thanks

I do hope they mean it this time. Politicians have ridden this country long enough so some decisive people action is needed to show clearly that power resides with d people. No longer should they be oppressed by threats of guns and implementation of anti-people policies.

I also hope the fight is for d liberation of the people and not for private interests seeking to line their own pockets too!

I only smiled when I read posts of people on the other thread hailing Buhari for going with d leanest entourage to the UN in d history of Nigeria at least sine 1999. That in itself is commendable considering d needs to conserve funds but I would have expected deeper thoughts n concerns to hold sway.

Beyond foaming at d mouth because of the number of people, what is the calibre of his entourage? What is their contribution to the issues that currently bedevil Nigeria? All he has are governors, former governors and his personal staff. Where are the expected professionals and technocrats with d required training to formulate n drive policies?

I don't want to mention the long awaited ministers cos we have been put on notice as to the fullness of time and their status as political noisemakers. So where we're those steeped in tradition n continuity of civil service? Will Nigeria therefore run on his interpretation/understanding of burning issues which is expectedly limited to 'fighting kwarapshin'?

I rest my case at this point.

[quote author=TonyeBarcanista post=38333830][/quote]I remember our long argument back in d days leading up to d presidential elections particularly about GMB's certificate saga. You called him the amiable general.

It's a good thing that u maintain objectivity at all times and call it as u see it. More grease to your elbow.
Lies may be ahead by miles but d truth will always overtake it. Well done.

The fullness of time is yet to mature. Till that happens, forget a cabinet. Some here will still find a way to draw GEJ/PDP into an issue that is exclusively GMB/APC.

Banking on d gullibility of Nigerians, APC sold a major scam which has begun to unfold. They said it was too early to judge but antecedents are there to look at. I still have this stubborn though dwindling hope that somehow Nigeria will not be dragged back to the dark ages when one couldn't get or be anything unless u were from or swore loyalty to d North.

Congratulations op and wife! Welcome to the world little one...
Thank God for His mercy.

c33b33:
Carnegiefan, I am humbled by your superior submission. I personally must keep an arm cos I will have a residence in the northern border,I love there and it is close to the enemies.

The monkey talking about Calabar and Port Harcourt seaports and saying it isn't his fault people are not using them. This has shown the level you have lost fact on your dear country. For your information, those ports were sold to Atiku Abubakar's "Intels" and is now a private property. The last time I was in Calabar port,it was only Dangote's ship that was docked and Seawolf Onome Rig(worked there) undergoing maintenance.

I ask again write a compelling article on "why nigeria will work". Or get ready to keep running amok on every Biafra thread because it won't end.
Nde ara!

IPOB Youth

Thanks bro. I didn't even know this and there I was arguing with a nitwit that knows nothing but evil.

freez2ryme:
I have said diz many times but people don't Alwayz agree wit me

D greatest problem of Nigeria is not Corruption but Sentiment

How can u justify dredging d whole of River Niger with billions just to decongest d Lagos port

When u can Tansform PH and CALABAR port to major commodity port wit just a fraction of dat cost.

How on earth did Niger River bridge end up with one lane, while dre about 4 different lanes in same river cross in lokoja

What is economic benefit of locating a refinery in Kaduna.

All dis to just tame a Resilience Igbo Man

The point on ports in Lagos is what I raised on the Biafran thread about how different it would be from Nigeria and some other poster kept raising funny issues. Even went as far as saying that there were other ports in other parts of d country but we refused to use them! Such a shame.

laudate:
Eeyah! You just love arguing blindly don't you? You first claimed that the major seaports are only in Lagos. Your error was pointed out. Instead of doing the honourable thing by admitting your mistake and moving on, you came back to dig yourself deeper into the hole by insisting on dishing out more excuses to cover up your errors.

You then turned round to state that the other ports are non-functional after your error was brought to your attention. Yet, in the same breath you admitted that you have not inspected them. Now, how did you know that they are non-functional if you have NOT inspected them?? Na wah, o! Now, you are claiming that this is not the aim of this thread. Oh, but I never said it was. My point remains that you do not have to lie, to get your points across.

Continue...

Clear comprehension issues abound in u. Stop d attempt to cover d collective n deliberate failure of d govt. It is not my place as a private citizen to personally inspect every seaport location before I can deduce that they are fit for operations. Information to that effect abound and on that basis i can conclude that they aren't operational.

Your stories would carry weight if I said there weren't others after u quoted my original post. If u choose to see my post as a lie that my dear, is ur cup of tea.

laudate:
Go back and re-read your former comment which I quoted in my preceding post. When you have done so, then you can come back here and post a well-researched response, instead of digging yourself deeper into the hole you have just created. Like I said before, there is no need to lie in order to make your points.

This was in response to ur quote telling me there are other seaports besides Lagos. There is no need to include d others if they're not functional but for d academic purpose u seem to want to pursue rather than reality, I did respond and say that they are there but not functioning at capacity with necessary infrastructure n personnel. Do u have a problem? Please this issue has been over flogged and u know the truth as well as I do that till date resources have mainly been focused in Lagos as far as core commerce is concerned. Stop the tomfoolery and attempt to sound knowledgeable when you're basically just splitting hairs.

Once more, this isn't d aim of this thread.

laudate:
You don't need to inspect them?? Gee whiz! So what were your comments, based upon? Conjecture?
Please stop lying that "the only sea ports are in Lagos." Period. A decent person would admit his mistakes and move on. Instead you are digging yourself deeper into the hole of deceit. You really do not need to lie, pretend or hyperventilate to get your points across.

I did not dispute d presence of viable seaports in places other than Lagos. I only queried their functionality. It is not importers or users that will decide whether or not to use them. It is the duty of the govt to set them up to full functional capacity before use.

laudate:
Who says they are non-functional? Have you inspected each and every one of them? Is that why you lied that the only sea ports are in Lagos?

Please...don't start with the story of lying and whatnot. I do not need to inspect them to know if they're functional. As of today, it's all happening in Lagos. Deal with it as the fact that it is. Besides this point is not d main focus of this thread. A lot of serious minded people are learning and working on this cause. I will not delve into a minuscule issue as this is in the wider scheme of things.

laudate:
Untrue. There are other sea ports in Port-harcourt, Sapele, Calabar, Onne and Ibaka. Don't blame the govt if your people decide not to use those ports.

The other areas are basically identified as viable but not functional. Where are the infrastructure, personnel and all other things that signify functionality?

The solution to Nigeria's problem lies in Nigeria, at least 80%. All these begging and pleading makes Nigeria look inept and sick. Start dealing with d internal issues and d international community will be begging to come in.
What goodwill we still have had better not be frittered away by confusion...

Makes one wonder who d culprits were in the pockets of violence that played out during Rivers State elections.

PvtParts:
Keep nibbling on osho's crusty balls as an appetiser before gurgling buhari's dangly wrinkled crusty balls as Tinubu rams his flaccid 3inch wart filled dik up your pooper.


Fagg0t sycophantic cucksucker

Nasty imagery u created here...lol

wale6run:
[b]Which people desire biafra? You or your motley collection of internet e-warriors? No ibo leadership has requested a separation from Nigeria and no such request is before currently before the Nigerian Parliament. You are merely making confused noise rather than any concrete points noteworthy! I have no interest in debating with one that does not know her onions!

You are driven by tribal bigotry and egocentricity. Look around you, most countries in the world were under colonial masters at one stage:- Ghana, USA, Canada, Australia, South Africa, India, Pakistan etc. Further, almost all countries are multi-ethnic in nature: China, Russia, Kenya, Senegal, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, Cameroon, UK, France, Italy, Germany etc.

It is only in Nigeria that we have this ridiculous demand by a tribe to create a country for one tribe in the midst of Nigeria. If you know yourself, you will know that you are wrongly wired and a fraud against majority of ibos who would prefer to remain patriotic Nigerians rather than Nigeria being a fraud! [/b]

You're really going to run a temperature at this rate. These countries u refer to how did they come into existence? Did some colonial masters decide whom to lump together under one name? The Biafrans have a totally different ideology and belief/value system totally different from others that make up Nigeria. It always clashes and that is why for instance, someone will say Igbos are proud, like to show off and do not respect their hosts. To the Igbo/Biafran, his tradition make him a master unto himself with full recognition if his right to contribute to decision making before it becomes law from the elders. The reverse is the case in Yoruba or Hausa/Islam where the word of the Oba or Emir or Imam is law.

Our elders are highly respected and honoured but cannot dictate to a member of d community. We ask questions n demand answers and then agree before we comply hence our republican nature. That isn't the case with most others we've been forced to be with.

This is not withstanding d lack of fairness and just one instance is d creation of states. The less number of states automatically reduces representation at d centre. Biafrans don't take easily to a master servant relationship as is currently run in Nigeria. We strongly advocate n demand equality and healthy competition hence the call for decentralisation and resource control. This of course has not even been countenanced by the govt. We also like to make our accomplishments known but to others it is called bragging and showing off. That is why in the one Nigeria we profess, u see people saying go back to ur place, they want to take over and all that....
Meanwhile d FG decides d bulk of development projects and has decided to site major seaports only in Lagos. What do u then expect a naturally entrepreneurial people to do but flock the same area in droves?

Yet we hear that we are ungrateful to our 'hosts'...in one Nigeria? Tell me who are d victims of religious crises in the North? Do u have same in d Biafra region?

I will not go further....it is not your cause. Stop bothering yourself. He who fails to plan, plans to fail. You will not hear any Igbo leader say anything now until the time is right and u do not decide that time. It will not also be presented before the Nigerian Parliament because our laws as currently drafted do not have provisions for the subject matter. I know u will have justifications for all I have enumerated here and all I haven't mentioned but that is ur prerogative. Biafrans desire Biafra and will have Biafra!

wale6run:

You don't seem to get it. Threads on Biafra have become a source of sore irritations for patriotic Nigerians who visit NL to interact and discuss on how to move the Nigerian project forward only to be confronted by an irritant nullity. Yes, a nullity is what biafra is.

If you have a chance, we can enter into an intelligent discussion but you don't. To your eternal ridicule, you have a fraudster and a womaniser, kanu, with grubby mouth lapping up donations of innocent ibos for his own little paradise in London. Like I said, biafra is as dead as a door nail. Forget it for your own good BP!

Call him whatever name u like...once the will of a people are engaged ur sentiments cannot change them. I will not enter into a debate with u on this matter cos like I said, u are not wired to grasp or comprehend it. Until u tell me that a people no longer have the right to self-determination u have no point. The people desire Biafra and it shall be!

The Nigerian project as u call it is a fraud and not organic. In as much as the stakeholders did not give their consent to be bound in this union then they have a right to revert to status quo that is, being on their own!

Safe trip...if for nothing else, enjoy the sights. At this rate GMB will expend all d money he's trying to save or recover on travel expenses...

The sound of bombs going off comes with a lot of noise so yeah, Shekau is a noisemaker like that. This seems to be a new lexicon ever since General Buhari used it to describe d members of the Nigerian cabinet. ..

wale6run:

Come off it, high n mighty! Without boasting, I think I am more than wired than you or any of your current underlings.
As for biafra, nothing will happen! It's a dance with death, which no reincarnated soul of vanquished biafra can come out of alive.
So, shove the pretence that you are going somewhere because you are not.

Why are u so bothered about what becomes of Biafrans? It can't be that u are genuinely concerned or u feel there's any positive contribution from Biafra so what's d issue? Have u cared to actually listen to why Biafrans demand a total separation from Nigeria? Like I said, it's not your cause or fight. Let it be...

wale6run:
The same foolish pride that led your icon of cowardice, ojukwu, to near mass extinction of ibos.
Suicidal idiosyncrasy is a biafran rage but on a one-way to perdition.
Just wrap your biafran secret in your apron instead of public forum to irritate versatile Nigerians.

Young man...no one sought your opinion on this issue. It is a worthy cause which unfortunately u aren't wired to comprehend or believe in. Just let it be... All Nigerians must hear of it and know of it. It will happen when it will.

IzonOwei:
I don talk am before..i go talk am again...make buhari make this woman minister of finance again...she just too mush..

I doubt she will ever accept that or any appointment from a government that has taken its time to vilify and try to tarnish her hard-earned image. If na u kwanu?

Congratulations to a shining light, no naysayer will ever put her down or out!

Of course! It's no surprise that all we've heard has been hot air. Soon others will procure exemptions so why d drama in d first place? Why not properly analyse policies before demanding enforcement?

Don't cry more than the bereaved. The concerned persons (Biafrans) have counted the costs and are willing to proceed for the greater good. This is the period of sensitization and awareness so stakeholders have a clear understanding and get involved. There are millions of Nigerians scattered in other countries. They are doing just fine and there is no rule that says that all Biafrans must reside in Biafra just like there are Nigerians in diaspora.

To answer your question, secession/separation is the best solution. If for 100 + years of existence we are still the way we are then it is time to pursue an alternative more decisively than previous times. If the CONFAB cannot be implemented and all the calls for restructuring cannot be heeded what extra fight do u want? Nigeria is a forceful and inorganic creation. That in itself in a fundamental issue.

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Caseless:
i'll get you.

Hey, it's past ur bed time. Go to sleep before ur Mummy knocks ur head for u. Silly child.

TonyeBarcanista:
Dear, I've been following events since that thread. Pls, try to ignore him and his mention. With time he will get used to it.

Remember..."Silence is best served to a fool". Even the Bible warned against debating with a fool.

Thank you...

Caseless:
I remain ur bugaboo. I'm gonna mark you with my 7. A deep cut from my 7 is all u deserve.

Silly child. U will mark urself very well...until u are totally mutilated

Caseless:
ab ovo, those were your points and I made guangues of them. From your first display of stvpidity, if I knew where I could get u, i'll b swift in action and wont be here wasting my time on u.
U go soon die , idiat.

Try harder...ur puny efforts have amounted to nothing just yet.