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The same courts he shut down for over a year. The same judiciary that saw him into office back in 2007 and he subsequently abused because unfortunately it is not exactly an independent tier of government and is subject to the whims n caprice of the executive to an extent.

Now he runs to the same judiciary to stop an investigation into his time in office while he is gallivanting all over Abuja and bad-mouthing GEJ, not minding that same probe is ongoing at Federal level. The hypocrisy of this man and his associates is amazing and I expect the courts, if only to teach him a lesson, to dismiss his suit and let everything be exposed, good or bad! Such a turncoat! You roll over on your own then look for escape routes when it's your time.

If these 'revelations' are true then there is no denting of one's image, it is rather exposing the truth at a convenient time for more sinister purposes. While supposedly encouraging transparency it is more likely an underhand tactic to get someone to bend or give in. Unfortunately if they are true then they can be proven and will stick as the obvious signs of corruption and embezzlement because his hands are not clean!

This is the reason selective justice is evil in itself. You either go all out or not bother at all. Don't throw perceived enemies to the crowd baying for blood while u shield cronies and friends. This is to the probing government that will selectively start from 2010 rather than 1999 or 2007 or even way earlier because some powerful allies will be indicted and exposed and knowing they're not particularly clean, they can't afford counter exposure. They rather pick n choose targets n times to pacify the mob...unfortunate I must say.

And this is news because? Some things are meant to remain private o! Mr Adams!

Napoleone:
Yet, Napoleon Bornaparte said "A state without religion is like a vessel without a compass"

Not to the detriment of the people. The people have to be alive and fairly content to be properly religious. You cannot have people dropping dead or lying sick due to lack of infrastructure and non-payment of salaries and then have same 'scarce' resources expended on ventures that are still circulated among the privileged few. These pilgrimages do not in any way improve the life of the common man who has many hungry mouths to feed!

Again, I have not asked for religion and faith to be banned. The right thing is for the government not to be actively involved in such issues and rather concentrate on its primary duty of good and sound governance which translates to a sane and conducive environment suitable for all things good including peaceful practice of any any religion.

Opinedecandid:
Mark my words, Buhari Will NEVER deny the man.

There is no spontaneity in that man's speech
It's ll planned.

That is why 'reformed' is in inverted commas. We know the truth but one thing is sure...Nigeria today is not Nigeria of 30 or more years ago. Try as they can there is most definitely a limit beyond which they will be forcefully stopped if reason will not prevail.

repogirl:
.....waiting for the other shoe to drop......

Exactly!

My goodness! Where is this kind of reasoning from? Even GMB will deny this Ibrahim Lame cos he's a 'reformed' democrat now all set to 'uphold rule of law'! Well like his name, he and his reasoning are 'lame'.
Yes Buhari must perform but not as a one-man squad and that is exactly what it will boil down to if certain provisions of the constitution u don't agree with are 'suspended' willy-nilly foe the supposed good of the people. All of a sudden 8yrs is not enough! Smh!

Good! I hope this leads on to the entire government excluding itself from religious pilgrimages whether Christian or Muslim. Religion is a private thing and should remain so. State governments ought to respect and enforce this too especially those owing salaries! I wonder what they discuss in their Governors' Forum that it has not yet occurred to them to stop these wasteful activities and quit throwing our money at foreign governments from airlines to the pilgrimage destinations. Countries that still have no regard for Nigeria because she refuses to fix her issues despite so many resources!

PassingShot:
I understand your OP perfectly but we also need to identify how we got here since it was not this way in the past.
Of course we can coexist while still having different ideologies or political leanings. The big question is can the opposition come up with credible issues to discuss? Issues free of concotions and laced with connotations of witch hunting and ethnicity. This is the basic requirement for peaceful debate devoid of vitriols and tantrums.

How come none of "them" is here?

I beg to differ on your assertion that 'it was not this way in the past'. Ethnic differences have always been with us and the awareness/exploitation of same have never been in doubt. It is not in 2010 that different tribes started mistrusting and even hating others. Attempts at profiling and laying specific crimes at the feet of certain tribes as if other people do not commit same crimes have been the bane of our existence and engendered further divisiveness. If you say GEJ played the ethnicity card then I will ask you to cast your mind back and tell me when ethnicity was not a consideration! Sometimes, getting a job in the civil service of yesteryears was a function of place of region viz-a-viz that of the person in power!

My point is, there is no time ethnicity and all other problems bedevilling Nigeria were not there! Awareness and the seeming intractability of these negative issues is what makes some people attempt to get away with laying it all at GEJ's feet. As they say, na when person wake up na him be morning. The ethnicity card has been played by all and sundry and PMB is doing it right now. Notwithstanding the voting pattern of elections, he ought to be more aware of the all-inclusiveness of his office but no, he had to make it clear that there is a 97%-5% dichotomy in his own reality. That statement alone puts more wind under the sails of those who wish to appear 'diligent' in their duties and every blame rests with him because whether he likes it or not, he gave approval for the marginalisation of a particular group thereby rubbishing the effort of a few! See the leadership of the House of Reps for instance, it is not like in the Senate where there is no APC Senator from the SE, there are 2 House of Reps members from the SE yet conscious effort was made to keep them out of leadership in the House. To what end? That they didn't do enough or what? If this is not the ethnicity card I don't know what it is and this is not GEJ at work anymore!

The fact is that the deep-seated, tribal/regional hatred will only begin to fade when the centre is demystified and made less powerful than it is. In other words, a confederation for regional development with leadership rotas clearly spelled out, with each region developing and maintaining ownership of its resources! Until then, provided someone or a group of people mount the saddle of leadership and see it as an opportunity to favour some over others because the system is actually designed to encourage that, the wounds and issues of tribalism will continue to fester, unfortunately.

This is mind-boggling. In addition to all executive/presidential functions he adds this portfolio to himself and to what end? It would make more sense to appoint a seasoned professional then demand reports within certain time frames. Also mandate auditors to go over the dealings of the ministry unannounced, even plant persons committed to the good of Nigeria to be his eyes and ears.

Deciding to head it himself is the most backward thing to do and it must be clear that the Ministry will not be run on 'integrity' alone! There is need for expertise and more up-to-date knowledge. He must respect his age and health too otherwise he'll find himself letting the same people he ought to flush out, run the system.

Well like d PDP said, it is too early to speculate so we watch n wait till September.

What is then the need for the wardrobe allowance when they won't even go to work and showcase their newly acquired wardrobes? No need to go into other crazy allowances...it is just sickening. Six weeks or more? They can't even lay down specific rules! Shame I swear.

The NNPC cannot realistically be the sole importer of petroleum for a country as large and diverse as Nigeria. It is also not practicable to attempt to cut off the private sector on this issue that affects energy supply. There is need to implement strict measures to ensure healthy distribution and business practices while at it.

One would expect that the government would be moving towards self-sufficiency in drilling and refining crude for domestic use as well as export rather than highlighting absolute government control for importation! Again, no matter how hard some of us try to hide our heads in the sand it is important to remember that the current government has established a 97%-5% dichotomy. Who is to say that a particular region will not suddenly find itself starved of essential regular supply? It makes more economic sense to properly regulate the private sector where u can have equal players from all regions who are basically interested in profit than a govt that creates the impression of vindictiveness and pettiness at each turn.

It is really irresponsible that at this point in time, there is no tangible or verifiable blueprint of the agenda of the present government. It just appears that a group of people stuck in a time warp keep spinning of crazy policies which they are more likely to recant especially after much damage has been done. We watch and wait but seriously...we need to be sure of where we are headed.

So why not at least from 2007? That was the election that brought GEJ into the Presidency. At least for a wholesome exercise of probing the last government. Specifically picking 2010 tells everyone that GEJ has already been indicted even before any findings have been made. Otherwise what is so special about 2010?Is that when things started to go 'wrong'? Why not even from 2011 to at least ensure the appearance of propriety ie probing a specific tenure? So there was no issue under Yar'Adua huh? Well, I don't blame those that say that GMB n Co have it in for the person of GEJ not necessarily the government as a whole.

Unfortunately the principle of live and let live may just bite GEJ on his arse cos some of those he let get away superintended over terrible acts of corruption under his watch and at the end of the day, barring any political abracadabra, he may become a scapegoat.

We watch and wait.

ModiKen:
Hey! PDP wailing wailers look here!

If you can tell me what Lucky Igbinedion did for 8 years, then I would come up with more answers to you question. In the main time, here is one:

For 8 years of PDP rule in Edo state under dat thief Lucky Igbinedion, I wld always swim before entering my house during rainy season.

Oshiomole came and built a drainage diverting the water coming from Ugbowo (Uniben area) to Ikpoba river. Since then I stopped swimming.

So because Lucky didn't do anything therefore Oshiomhole can do as he pleases as well? Where is the change then? If he will vilify d previous govt without bringing anything different then what's the point?

If they really mean business in the HoR then someone can pick up the gauntlet, repackage it and make it even more water-tight then present it to the house. It is really a major problem that should be addressed to ensure fair working conditions.

I hope and expect that this leads to better leadership and management of the corporation as well as transparency. Ill-gotten loot should be traced and thieves prosecuted as well. However if this is to replace one with another and leave Nigerians with the same rot then that will be a great shame.

ddippset:
you are not a wailer if you criticize some policies of pmb. But OMG you're a bloody wailer if you criticize each and every policy of pmb. Barcanista and almost every of his disciples belong to this group. I don't even have the time always to counter like you said because a sincere and objective critic would listen a have a change of heart sometimes. But when you criticize every second of buhari's 5,788,800 seconds in power then you're not worth the dignity of a debate.

If there is merit to every criticism what then? He should keep shut and only select some so he isn't a 'wailer'? If you can't even spare the time to counter what he says but u just throw it all in the bin because it is Barcanista and crew how does that help? How do u even say that he criticises every policy? What policy is even in place? Can u clearly identify fiscal and external/foreign policies of a government already more than 2 months old? A sincere and objective critic wil have a change of heart if he is met with more convincing arguments and reasoning not from name-calling! So where is that? If u can't take the time to discredit his issues or criticisms why do u think attacking his person will serve any purpose?

If only they would see this as their regular function and leave it that having dismissed her petition as baseless! But knowing Nigerian politicians and their vindictiveness especially when in a position to 'punish' perceived enemies, they would start hounding the Judge out of her job or attempt frustrate her career. They must definitely find ways to attack her personally for her 'effrontery' at questioning the old order. Such a shame!

How does one begin to justify non-payment of salaries for months on end? Yet u decry corruption and all when the chicken change the workers are entitled to doesn't even get to them as and when due? Is that not economic and administrative failure on the part of the executive already?

ddippset:
when you are in APC you must be able to criticize apc and praise pdp sometimes. When you are in PDP you must be able to criticize pdp and praise apc sometimes. Barcanista criticized pdp because he was an apc fan boy and today he criticizes apc because he's a pdp fan boy. That's what you call objectivity, that's what I call hypocrisy. He should be able to praise buhari sometimes but he even criticizes buhari's digestive system. The god of the wailers is the hypocrite and sentimental one!

You don't seem to get what I am driving at and you and I know that's some wild exaggeration about GMB's digestive system. I am not holding brief for Barcanista but all I am saying is, however he chooses to go about airing his opinions and criticisms is entirely is business and should not even factor as a basis for conversation or arguments. Rather, if there is any untruth or falsehood in whatever point he raises, that should be countered with a better version backed with facts. Calling him a hypocrite without even addressing or countering any criticism means that u agree with his assertions but just have a problem with his presentation. That smacks of dealing with the form rather than contents and that is cosmetic at best. Praising Buhari or not is not a hallmark of objectivity. It is presenting one's view without rancour and personal attacks.

Even your responses to my posts make my point clear, do you have to punctuate each statement with petty tags like 'wailers' 'god of the wailers' and so on? Even a non-committal Nigerian with an opinion on the policies of governance will be branded a 'wailer' and so on if it just so happens that his opinion is not in line with 'praising GMB'! How does that even come close to maturity and objectivity?

ddippset:
barcanista has seen nothing wrong with gej but has seen everything wrong with pmb. Barcanista thinks gej is flawless while pmb is all mistakes. And you Kenny 789 still agree he has not seen anything good with pmb and anything bad with gej. Terrible!

My gospel here is objectivity. When Barcanista was an APC supporter, he saw everything wrong with all things PDP. Now, the reverse is the case, you call it terrible. It is his personal opinion and choice and if he points out all things wrong with APC and GMB, point out all things right. Don't pass judgement on his conviction and point of view, rather attack what points he has raised. If he just says 'I hate GMB, he is this and that...' that would be petty and silly but provided he is raising issues bordering on policies, governance and promises made, I see no crime. Like I asked earlier, what is to praise? Has GMB gone over and beyond the call of duty to do anything? It is not all about chanting 'Sai Baba, carry go!'

ddippset:
good points.! But one thing. Barcanista is not about Mr buhari succeeding. It's easy to see someone who wants the President and the country to do well. You criticize some, you praise some. Barcanista has already criticized even the things that are still on buhari 's mind. Barcanista is more angry at gej' s loss. The wailers would naturally applaud every anti buhari remark.

Like I said, rather than call him names, counter any untruth in his arguments with a different argument. It is his personal view if he is yet to see anything worth praising GMB and his handlers for and decides to focus on what he does. I consider him objective enough to give honour to whom honour is due but then what are the praises for? Has GMB gone over and beyond the call of duty? It is said that even the devil knoweth not the mind of man so when u say that all he does is based on anger at GEJ's 'loss' I wonder how come u are so sure.

Mixty:
Well, I am not a supporter of Barcanista but I respect his depth o knowledge and clinical analysis here, even though he ignores some facts and twist others inorder to serve his purpose. Overall, we need a good opposition and he is doing just that.

On a personal note, I take exception to what kenny987 said that Barcanista and his ilks want Nigeria to succeed. I personally still find it hard to fathom how someone who wants Nigeria to remain united and successful will support GEJ. GEJ was one of the worst leaders we have ever had, sentiments aside. To make matters worse, he switched camp from APC to PDP just to support GEJ. There is more to it than meet the eye.

I will however implore him to remain in the opposition too keep APC on their toes.

Again, those were his personal decisions to make based on his convictions. You do not get to question him for that. You call GEJ the worst leader and that is your opinion but may I remind you that mostly, you choose to see what u want even when the truth stares u in the face. Buhari has his own negative and inhuman records which u all conveniently choose to ignore on the altar of supposed 'dignity and integrity' ascribed to him and that is again a personal choice. Do not sit there and call Jonathan (GEJ) the worst leader we ever had as if Nigeria was all el-dorado before he came into office.

Unless u want to call Barcanista and the over 12 million Nigerians that voted GEJ unpatriotic, u do not have the standing to categorically declare that they do not want Nigeria to succeed. You have a problem with GEJ, that's up to you and frankly, his leadership left a lot to be desired and mostly because he was sabotaged but still the buck stopped at his table as President. Still u don't get to brand them as persons not wanting Nigeria to succeed when the issues raised by them have not been addressed. You don't get to sweep genuine concerns under the carpet and call them inconsequential because they supported another candidate from another political party. We run a multi- and not mono-party system in Nigeria and freedom of association and political affiliation is still a constitutional right.

ddippset:
an hour or two? That pvnk spends much more than that on nairaland. Maybe 10 hours for both posting and googling. He's the wailers' Messiah aka the chief wailer. He's nothing but a sentimental and biased pdp/gej butt licker. You ain't no good analyst if you never see something good in your opponent. Even if PMB was the devil himself surely b1tchanista should see one good thing out of 100 but he hasn't. Wailers stop the praise singing there are a lot of good analysts here, only some of them are too busy to give 1 hour to Nairaland everyday.

It is still not your place to speculate as to his life offline. He hasn't come begging u for food and his internet access is not free of charge. Learn to be objective and attack points raised by barcanista or any other person. That is why research and academia is not for every person, it takes patience and a broad mind to research, articulate one's findings and even twist them to suit his purposes. If u and other 'good analysts' are too busy to give 1hr to Nairaland everyday do not denigrate others who do especially for no other reason than because he does not share your point of view or is not parroting '#Change' without querying it where necessary.

There is no doubt that Barcanista and others who air their views here..basically all Nigerians, want Nigeria to succeed. At the same time that change must be sought with eyes wide open not blindly toeing a line without asking questions. Even your child that u love so much must be chastised and punished sometimes in order to turn out good and fit for society. The same way where something doesn't seem right to one, it is within that person's right to air his views more so when backed up with proof. If u disagree, u do so by identifying and countering said points with your own proof. That is how mature, intellectual and constructive debates/criticisms are carried out.

exxell:
My sister, there is no way we can put individualism to the back seat. Individualism is a God given talent to the Igbo nation and we can't do without it. Individualism is what makes competition so real in Igbo Land that you see our brethren who can't compete migrating to many parts of the world to try it out there. Though it can be argued that individualism is not the best stance in a mundane country like Nigeria where politics of rancour is played, Individualism will play a big role in BIAFRA. A state that will be as free as the Air like the united states of America.

It is a great talent/gift and there is no disputing that. Still, the same individualism will make it almost impossible to achieve BIAFRA. We have to agree and fight for something and unlike the herd-mentality prevalent in some areas, we need to be convinced and be ready to be convinced too. That is where a temporal relegation of individualism comes to play until that which is sought is achieved.

Igbos have achieved and continue to achieve much both seen and unseen. Politically, we need to arrive at a decision and pursue it doggedly and determinedly. It is time for individualism to take a back seat to collective assertion. It is indeed possible and doable. What is needed among other things is a figure or group of persons the majority of Igbos can vouch for. Because we are a very critical people, anyone that can gain collective acceptance and support will be more easily accepted on a more inclusive and even national level.

Joe Igbokwe, because he happens to be an APC spawn ought not to forget his roots. Blood and tribe should and do supersede political affiliations so when the Igbos agitate for regionalism or separation whilst still demanding fairness in distribution of portfolios whilst not sacrificing competence, he should be able to see that. No matter the political leanings of a particular person or people, provided they are still part of an entity then they ought to be represented accordingly and not vilified. He ought to be fighting for the inclusion of Igbos at all levels and thus encourage better reception and acceptance of the APC in the SE, not attempting hold up himself as a saint or the wiser one to the exclusion of the same people he identifies with by reason of his origin and calling them names for seeking for what ought to be theirs.

Oh Lord! Can this simple and straightforward thread not be turned into a tribalism 'melting pot'? Just read the news and move on!

Exactly what is going on with these series of accidents especially with petroleum tankers? It is way too much and something needs to be done to address the issues. They keep talking about pipeline sabotage et al but this here is one source of major loss that no one seems to account for maybe because it is no longer in the custody of the government? What about associated environmental hazards and lives that are wasted?

Emirofsambisa1:
Chukwu gozie gi

Cc lalasticlala
Ishilove

Iseeee! Gozikwa gi na ezi n'ulo gi!

Absolute facts! That is the crux of the whole matter....charity begins at home and Igbos need to deal with the rot within before preaching. Our leaders need to create an enviable region and our rich/intelligent minds must be engaged to bring this to a reality. We should be able to showcase an enviable alternative to the disheartening and shameful norm which we currently parade as leadership. Then, we can negotiate from a place of strength and not vulnerability.

Rochas had better get his act right. He's got it better than his counterparts in the region cos Imo is part of d ND/Oil producing states. He's supposed to be the example through which APC might hope to make inroads into the SE. We are not known for such irresponsibility so he'd better not import whatever he's learned from this his new association to come and constitute a weak link.

He should know Igbos don't suffer fools lightly...Imagine saying he hasn't seen any other state go on strike for arrears of salary and that is justifiable to him?!