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ddippset:
it even makes sense if buhari decides to probe from when Jonathan became commander in chief bur wike, only 18 months? Even your daughter knows what wike is up to. It's a disgrace.

I keep telling u to leave personal and family matters out of ur responses. What has my daughter got to do with Nigerian politics or this discussion? Please learn or just steer clear. I can't deal!

ddippset:
Buhari didn't set timelines, Wike did, and that's because wike himself knows how he looted rivers state. So don't work yourself over nothing.

That's totally untrue. Can't lay my hands on it but the committee to be headed by Oshiomhole stated clearly in the news that going back to the far past will be a waste of time so they will concentrate on 2010-2015. Threads n comments have been raised in discussing this decision and u say he didn't set a timeline? Haba! Or are u toeing Adesina's line in saying that it was the APC n not GMB himself that said he'd publicly declare his assets which in itself is a lie?

ddippset:
I think you're so bent on focusing on the things amaechi did wrong and ignoring the things wike did wrong. The summary of what iam saying is this; wike should probe the whole of amaechi's regime while buhari should probe the whole of jonathan's regime.

And I insist that Jonathan started from 2007 not 2010 because any actions under his hand from when he became substantive President were an offshoot of what Yar'Adua left in place. If Buhari picks 2010 then Wike should choose when he wants.

You are saying I am bent on lookin at what Amaechi did wrong. I tot u were justifying his pettiness as regards handover? Good thing u agree he did something wrong! Provided GMB feels it's alright to divide d 2007-2011 administration into 2 and start from 2010 then Wike hasn't done any wrong if u say he has chosen to probe Amaechi's last 18months.

ddippset:
amaechi did not handover because elections turned into blood bath in rivers state. Patience Jonathan, gesilia Kan, ateke tom, asari dokubo, Sergeant awuse, several niger delta militants, police, dss made sure votes were manipulated and several lives were wasted in rivers state. May God never let any of your people die because of another person's ambition. Then you would know how it feels.

I just advised u on learning to stay on topic and not go personal on families et al. Pray for your people by yourself, thanks.

U mean he could not direct d various commissioners and Perm Secs in d ministries to prepare their handover notes? So the pockets of violence here and there engulfed the entire Rivers State including Ph the capital? Yet he could conduct LG elections in all 23 local governments , an election that had a court injunction against it?! Was he the one that would prepare the the notes? Both APC and PDP camps were complicit in the supposed bloodbath but it could not and did not affect governance in any way. If he felt votes were manipulated the solution is the election tribunal and not abdication of duties.

There was no justification for not doing the handover in the intervening days bw the elections and May 29. In fact, knowing that he wasn't contesting any elections and his tenure had ended, he ought to have started d process already! The so called bloodbath did not exceed April and that is me being charitable and giving a lot of time. What happened in the whole of May until 29th?

OZAOEKPE:
You want Biafra and now you want seaport, you guys should stick to one. Tomorrow , they will ask for 2nd Niger bridge

As long as Igbos are Nigerians then they have legitimate rights to demand development. Besides it is a Federal matter so it is for the entire country. It's no crime if we have multiple commercial seaports especially if we have the natural capacity as blessed by nature.

If there will be a break then it comes when it will. Until then Nigerians will not sit and fold their arms. Or will u ask them to stop paying taxes because they want Biafra?

If there's any integrity as flaunted by the President, he should strip this Fowler guy of the appointment immediately. If nothing else for malicious misrepresentation aimed at misleading the government and public. Somehow I'm sure that won't happen and they'll find a way to rationalise it.

This Adesina sef doesn't he do due diligence and investigation b4 opening his mouth? No verification of info but they'll use it to pose and even make appointments on d basis of such false information!

And the CG of the NIS has just said there's no record of his application! How do they have these conflicting reports? Is the CG out of the loop on such high-profile investigation or did he just feel the need to address the press?

For Shehu Garba, how can u justify our lack of intelligence and collaboration with international law agencies in this global fight against terrorism? We need to get our act right and stop playing the blame game! We should have been able to flag his application down under whatever alias because that is what specialised agencies are trained to do! Let's get our head out from under the sand and start taking responsibility.

They should also find out whose contact here in Nigeria cos I don't think he was planning to come in like a regular Joe and lodge in a hotel! He must have been meeting with someone or people...who?

This is why we need community policing or what we call State Police. The rite appears to be a regular tradition and indigenes/long-time resodents of the State will definitely know about it but here is our police saying they didn't know about the tithe like that exonerates them in any way. I'm also sure that people from the area will be more passionate about keeping their people safe.

In all though, the Nigeria Police needs serious overhaul and training. I don't know how they can charge money to effect arrest and then instead of a proper investigation they ask the Baale to name the miscreants! I tire!

Hmmm! These our public office holders that are in love with the camera and press releases. Why not wait till after the said investigation before commenting on the matter? What if proof contrary to his assertion comes to light what then happens? Any small thing they'll release press statement. When plans are made against enemies or to do anything it will hit the news b4 implementation!

ddippset:
ignoramus! Is the tenure that handed over to him not from 2007? Amaechi became governor in 2007. Mumu. Wike wants to leave out 2007 to 2013 because he was part of the looters of rivers money then.

See again? The person you quoted even called u Bro and in ur response u called him an ignoramus! Really rude! Did Amaechi even hand over? There were no handover notes and he wasn't even there for d ceremonial handover on May 29

ddippset:
You're deliberately opting not to use your senses or you're trying to be smart. The best thing in our democracy is for every regime to probe the regime it took over from. I am in total support. That's why I support buhari to probe Jonathan's complete regime which was from 2010 to 2015. Wike must also probe amaechi's complete regime which was from 2007 to 2015. But why is wike choosing only the last 18 months? Because wike was with Amaechi and he looted rivers state as lga chairman and chief of staff for 5 years of amaechi's regime.

U know, u didn't have to start by addressing the use or otherwise of my senses. That's rude. U should stay on topic and leave personalities alone in ur discourse unless u are directly addressed in that manner.

I said wait b4 jumping to conclusions. Wike has not said what period he will probe yet, u only assumed 18months for whatever reason best known to u. Jonathan's complete tenure was 2007-2015. He came into the Presidency from 2007 and whatever he did as President after d unfortunate death of Yar'Adua was definitely a continuation from then. He didn't just start completely new policies.

Besides, GMB has always said the PDP is the problem and I don't have a direct quote but he said they knew how much there was in 1999 and 16yrs on there's nothing to show so when he's President he will find out what happened to all the money earned from then. In other words he's always been clear that PDP is d issue not any particular person. Why the sudden about-face?

Again, what has happened to re-opening the Haliburton case which he gave orders for b4 his trip to the US? Why has that stopped? Why isn't he keeping to his words?

ddippset:
I know wike will probe 2013 to 2015 instead of 2007 to 2015. Criminal trying to probe another person. Wike should just wait for the tribunal to sack him first, then they will bring out his own file as education minister. He's forgotten how he looted billions of ubec funds abi? Okay na here we dey!

As GMB and crew have chosen to probe 2010-2015 instead of from 1999 or at least 2007 nko? Wait and see before u jump into conclusions.

Take full control and ownership of the oil sector? Really?

hamzyluv:
ministerial appointment is not mandatory on President to appointed at any given or stipulated time by the constitution... just a delegated arms/post to help the presidency in actualized his/her dream of good government.....

Yes it is not mandatory but where u have statutory requirements for a minister that is not met then he perpetrates am illegality as in this case.

vikyno:
I am not surprised at all cos I expect no less from a President Buhari.

My problem is with the commissioner (Osinbajo) who is said to be a professor of Law.

The Vice-President will only do the bidding of his boss. If his input is not sought then he will not give it. Again that is not his job specification. It is the duty of the President to get his legal advisers/team ready to properly scrutinise all actions that border on constitutionality or statutory requirements before he carries them out. If he fails to do that and embarrasses himself like he has done now then it's all on him. This is not a military regime where u hire n fire ir even imprison at will. There are due processes which must be followed.

dabossman:
I wonder why we even split hairs over unnecessary semantics in this country. So if the President appoints a new IGP or announces his ministerial list for instances, he has to also add that it is subject to senate screening before we know it is? Is that not a given already? Has the new appointee resumed work? Or what is the fuss about?

There is a provision and statutory requirement for the involvement of the Minister of Finance. Has that been complied with? The appointment was stated to be effective from 18th August so that completely negates the Senate component. If he knew or was prepared to comply with that the appointment would not be effective until Senate confirmation is sought and obtained.

hamzyluv:
so president should wait for those stupid honourables to resume work before he appoint someone of his choice ? they work for just 9days and close chamber for 6weeks and collected over 36millions without passing A single bill into law... .. .. .. .. .. don't worry they will meet me when I actually become the President ..

What about the requirement for the input of the Minister of finance? Where is the minister? The Senate has its own incomprehensible issue but this is all Buhari's wrongdoing.

strawb:
Those lawmakers Neva see anything
Sebi una dey shout democracy wen u went against the party and president's choice of d senate president. Be prepared for show.
BTW, once a soldier, always a soldier. Know the person u are dealing with.

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You should have been concerned that we were shouting democracy yet a supposed majority voted in an unrepentant autocrat with a military background to boot! That is where the issues lie. Buhari had better surround himself with sound advisers. This is a democracy whether he likes it or not.

It is not just the Senate confirmation. It has to be done in consultation with the Minister. Where is the minister to be consulted with? How can anyone call this am oversight? It is complete dereliction of duties and his legal team if any should be fired immediately as an example. Such 'oversights' are unpardonable.

However if Buhari is acting under his own counsel or from bits n pieces here and there because he may not have taken the pain to constitute a legal team to advise him on such and other matters them he needs to suspend himself and get his act together.

Expected! Especially when the country is being run the way it is. First quarter might have been understandable because of the apprehension of election outcomes but sustained reduction can only be because of the manifest lack of direction the current leadership is exhibiting. We don't even make appointments in line with the law anymore and someone puts it down to an oversight!

agabusta:
Was the new MD named in Acting capacity or as a substantive MD?

The relevance of this question you have just asked is a little unclear. An appointment into that office in whatever capacity requires that the stipulated procedures be followed. There is no indication that Kuru's appointment is in acting capacity though.

October...hmm. Like I always say, we watch and wait. I just hope the activities of the government will not take on a tinge of illegality due to the absence of Ministers. If it is not GMB it is the Legislature. There is no justification for this delay other than the fact that he is not constrained by the Constitution to set up his cabinet within a set time-frame. These are some lapses that are exploited and nothing is done about them.

I SEEK CLARITY, FROM ALL PATRIOTIC NIGERIANS PLEASE:

And oh, if the only response you can think of is 'Leave d president alone to do his work', this post is NOT meant for you.

"Have u read read the AMCON Act of 2010? To what extent did the appointment of new AMCON MD & EDs yesterday fulfil the requirements of the law? S.10(1) of the Act provides for a chairman who shall be appointed on recommendation of the Federal Ministry of Finance in consultation with the Minister. There is no Minister yet so...

The law says the Managing Director shall be "nominated" by the Central Bank of Nigeria. S. 10(1). 3 Executive Directors to be "nominated by the CBN on consultation with the Minister". Again there is no Minister, so how could this have been fulfilled? 5 other non-executive Directors - 2 nominated by the Ministry of Finance; 2 by the CBN and 1 by NDIC. Did anyone bother to look at the law? Was there any recommendation, nomination or consultation?"

A friend raised this query on Facebook and I believe forumites will be interested.

Rilwon:
Lagos will be the Number liveable city in the world by the time those flat headed yibooos leave lagos for us.

So why aren't other cities not so heavily occupied by other Nigerians different from your tribe better? Lagos has been over-hyped solely because it was once the capital and is the centre of commerce in Nigeria. The nature of Lagos far transcends any tribal colouration because both Nigerians and foreigners settle there and ply their trade. It is the same with every other commercial city or national capital including the ones ranked No 1.

Your concern as a civilised Nigerian should be to hold the leaders accountable and demand proper leadership at all spheres. You should worry about where all the billions allocated to and generated in Lagos have gone to. Turning it to a tribal issue only makes u appear myopic. Your sentiments will not drive away serious business men who are doing their thing. It will also not curb the acts of miscreants and criminals that now brazenly rob on highways.

So the Ministry no get budgetary allocation before? Recovered money will not be put back into where it came from but forwarded to Min of Women Affairs. Ok o! We watch n wait. As far as this government is concerned PDP looted the country dry...that's true. So his anti-corruption war had better cover d retire PDP tenure from 1999 till date. Then we'll have a holistic view of what was stolen and recovered, who's been jailed or punished and how much the Ministry of Women Affairs will then receive.

vicadex07:
Lol...but u initially denied being igbo. I wouldnt have bothered replying you if you were upfront with me abt your identity cos you will never reason with me wether I am stating the fact or not...afterall the ego of an igboman like you just postulated is more important than anything else...like the truth

At no time in the course of our discourse did my identity come up for discussion so where did I deny being Igbo? Whatever your personal opinions or obsessions are just don't try to bring lies. That might be ur stock-in-trade which u probably get away with but I will so stop u right here and now. I do not shy away from my identity and make sure I reason with anyone here on a level platform.
U jumped to conclusions by presuming I was from Benin and I corrected you. However i can see that you don't like the fact that u were engaged and caught at your own lies by someone from the tribe u sought to put down. U are also surprised I could talk without resorting to insults and tantrums unlike u so that's why u want to fall back on ur default setting which is to lie n cast aspersions. Point out now where I denied being Igbo!

Again u jumped to assumptions. I am female so address me as one not Igbo man. The truth in all I've said stares u in the face and u cant deny it. Learn to stop using nasty words on a group of people especially when u have no basis or justification other than beer parlour rumours u peddle n try to sell as d truth. It's your life anyway and no skin off my nose.

donholy28:
Scrape what? There are 3 arms of government and d local government is d one closest to d people…even US get mayors

If u understand the US system of govt, u will realise that there are counties with mayors but that is the sole business of the states for administrative convenience. Washington is not concerned with that and does not dole out funds to the counties. Calling for the scrapping of LGAs is not so that they don't exist but rather make them strictly the business of the states and not have anything to do with federal allocations.

Regional system of governance is key and with that the functions and powers arrogated to the centre must be shed to the federating units. Let the regions decide how many counties or local govt areas will be required for administrative purposes and generate its funds from within its unit to cater for them. That is the way sane governments are run and no this idea of doling out funds on some trumped-up sharing formula.

vicadex07:
May God bless you my brother. Kenny987 (I presume you're from benin abi?) see this.

U know, our back and forth so far has been on why u chose to insult a tribe and call them rodents that cause bitterness and strife. I still maintain that it was an uncivilised and unbecoming thing to do. Being proud/arrogant is Chinua's opinion and like I said, a statement of fact primarily because the Igbos have never been given to servitude from the word go. Unlike what is obtainable in the North and West where the monarchical system holds supreme, it is not the same in Igbo land. Just about anything can offend anyone so even a certain level of confidence can be interpreted as a 'disregard for humility and quietness' and deemed offensive but the Igbo man does not look down on other traditions. He sees them, acknowledges them and remains who he is. Unfortunately one or more may be offended but it is what it is and certainly not a weakness.

I have not bothered with the no man's land trivia because it comes with various perspectives that yield different interpretations depending on a point of view. Still, Lagos belongs to the indigenes and residents of Lagos. No one can get up, decide to profile and evict any group of persons because they are not of a particular ancestral origin. Traditions are in place and no one should expect the Igbo or other tribes to bow and lose their identity because they sojourned from other lands. There has to be cohesion and understanding. No one should threaten the others and expect them to remain bowed in obeisance. Certainly not the Igbo man.

Finally, u presumed wrong. I am Igbo not from Benin.

vicadex07:
What your'e saying in essence is that the igbo has a peculiar weakness which should be overlooked

Nope, it is no weakness to be able to take an initiative, act on it and stand by your actions without waiting for someone to spoon-feed u and give u the go-ahead to breathe! That is why ur people allow bitterness, anger, distrust and negative emotions because the Igbos are go-getters, u cannot do the same, they come to your place and excel and then u begin to have issues. Again it is in their nature to travel and spread out which is no weakness either. That he believes respect is reciprocal and in fact earned rather than confer god-like status on a person with unconditional reverence is also not a weakness.

I tried to explain to you what the Igbo has as his culture and all you did was attempt to reduce it to a weakness. Naturally I ask you, what makes you think you are more superior to another so that u regard his culture as a 'weakness' or fault? Other than accident of birth to a Yoruba family what makes u any better? You could just have well been Igbo or even from any other African tribe! One would expect that you would understand the differences and see the need for one to accommodate the other and vice-versa but no, your default setting is to denigrate that which you can't understand or attain. That is what makes u people call them names and express unfounded anger. It is pointless really.

vicadex07:
Have you seen any other ethnicity apart from the igbo openly denigrating, insulting and boasting about just anything to their host community? Will an hausa man or yorubaman goto enugu and insult their people or monarchy without any backlash. This is Africa and we all have respectable values and cultures. In Yorubaland we respect our elders and revere our royalty. Yes we are all citizens of the same country but we are also indegenous to diffrent ethnic groups.

Like I said, the Igbo will react if you threaten what is his whether life or property. Until Rilwan Akiolu did the lagoon threat crap did any Igbo person in any part of the SW denigrate any seat of authority? If any check well, there was provocation. He may not dobale or prostrate but he will not interfere in your activity either. However when u threaten him he will get in your face and let you have it. U will agree with me that they are peaceful people and do not go about killing or forcibly taking over properties unlike what Northerners do sometimes.

As you rightly said we come from different ethnic groups and we must learn to understand our differences. The Igbo culture is more inclusive and more of a confederation. Different families and units are autonomous unto themselves with representatives up to the Igwe's council. Power is not unilaterally reposed in one person and units and chiefs must be in agreement before decisions are taken. That is the Igbo man's culture and reality. He is already used to some level of authority and ability to take decisions and act for himself and his immediate unit/clan up to a certain level. That naturally confers some arrogance, if you will, on him. That is why I preach tolerance and understanding, cos if u attempt to threaten or cow him in any way, he will not wait for the approval of the Igwe or Oba to act. The Igbos respect their elders but cannot be dictated to. There must be a consensus to arrive at any major point.

vicadex07:
To be notoriously arrogant and insultive with disregards for human feelings spawns jealousy and hatred which degenerates into bitter enmity. Can a tenant come into your fathers house and poke fun at his daughters or his building without him taking offense even though he has commited no crime. There is what we all know as common sense and morality. Something doesnt have to be illegal before it is being frowned upon and proved to be wrong morally

That is where you have gotten it wrong, calling or seeing them as tenants or in this case settlers/visitors. While they may not claim ancestral roots to whatever region outside Igbo land, he is a bonafide citizen of Nigeria. He assimilates and mixes with the people but he will not roll over and play dead. He pays his way through same as everyone else so while there may be friction here and there, what exactly justifies the hatred and jealousy on the part of the hosts as you have said? Should the Igbo remain the way he came? He works hard so he must grow and expand. He will also protect the result of his sweat and the moment he feels threatened he will naturally react, especially when u try to forcibly convert what is his.