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vicadex07:
That quote was made by chinua achebe an Igboman, not me

I modified my quote. You may go through it again if you like. However, whether it is made by an Igbo man or anyone else, it is a statement of fact and nothing else. If I remember correctly, that statement is followed by the positive traits of the Igbo. Why didn't u also include that? The character and nature of a people is a whole package and provided they break no laws and are law abiding citizens, there is no excuse for calling them names. Your own people have their own character flaws and that does not affect whom they are either. It is necessary to understand certain statements before u use them...just giving u a little friendly advice, it is not a profitable venture to insult people who have done nothing other than be themselves so live and let live.

[quote author=vicadex07 post=37033575][/quote]Just whom do u expect the Igbos to show humility to? You can only expect that when you give them lands and businesses free of charge or they carry out their activities tax-free. However, since that is not the case and they as well as everyone else are guaranteed under law the freedom to move and trade wherever they deem fit and as citizens of Nigeria, then expecting humility, quietness or non-exhibitionism is an absolute waste of time. Provided he breaks no law wherever he resides then you still have no justification for calling them rodents that cause u bitterness and strife. You see, I told you you'd come up empty. Chinua's statement is an observation of fact and is not in anyway an indictment or pronouncement of wrongdoing. You or any other person may be offended but it is the nature of some and there's nothing u can do about it.

Isn't it such a shame? If it is in the nature of one to be confident, exhibit his prowess at whatever he does and so on, how is it an issue? Is it a crime? Criminals abound and cut across all tribes and races so it is not peculiar to one. Fact is, curse or say all u want, it is only an exercise in futility for you and doesn't affect the Igbo man in any way. I only called your attention because it was just completely unprovoked, out of place and uncivilized. Live and let live.

vicadex07:
Igbos are rodents infesting any region or location they migrate too with strife and bitterness. They will soon come and also tell us how abuja wont survive without them and how they built the city from scratch cos the indegenes were lazy

Just a simple question and you already throw abuses. Infesting regions with strife and bitterness? Rodents? This is the result of hearing and parroting one thing too many times, it assumes the appearance of truth but if you are asked to come up with justification for calling your people such names or claiming that they cause strife and bitterness you will come up empty. There will be no substance to whatever you try to bring up as your proof. Take time out and think...decide whether being insulting especially without good cause is a worthwhile venture to embark upon.

Nigeria must rise again! We must remain focused with our eyes on the goal and not allow contrived distractions. Governance must spread to every area particularly infrastructure. APC and GMB made their promises, the basis for which they are in power today.

All Nigerians ask for is equitable representation and development, economic/political restructuring and accountable stewardship that translates to #Change! There will be no room for lopsided development or favouritism due to voting patterns. That is the true litmus test this government must pass and in time their actions and plans will continue to show exactly what they're about.

We watch and wait and expect the best.

Let all 36 of them do all they should to make their slices of Nigeria great. They're doing their jobs...
The Fed govt should also play its own role equitably in the Federation and we'll be better for it.

Onegai:
Rather than practise self-control, women should "dress decently" to avoid rape, babies should sew decent looking diapers and wear agbada so men are not tempted, teenagers should lock themselves up because men are not to be tempted, children should continue working long hours and getting underpaid because men cannot be trusted around adult women, in fact to demand that Nigerian men behave decently is a crime otherwise known as "Feminism"

I dey hail una o

According to the op, men are visual and polygamous. On the other hand women are blind and of course, monogamous! Somehow he has a justification. Just because another female assists hos wife with chores then he justifies her getting some of what madam gets. Then why not marry them all? Why marry one and destroy others? If madam deserves marriage then the maid deserves it too! I follow u hail dem o! Dem go rape woman finish still talk say na her fault cos she no wear 'decent' cloth!

These same shameless lies that have been peddled from time immemorial! Every policy in our educational system has been slanted in favour of this so called 'backward/disadvantaged' North yet rather than shape up and actually close the gaps (If any), they become even more dead-weight, pulling others back! Then with these advantages that are obviously not merited, when it comes to offices and appointments they are suddenly more qualified than others right? Imagine requiring a child form Zamfara to score just 2 while the Anambra child has to score 230 in the same exam, same curriculum and for admission to the same unity school! For no other reason than place of origin!

The best way to treat a stubborn and lazy child after much coddling (which never works) is to let that child stand on his own and face the competition. It is either he sinks or swims and I am certain the instinct for self-survival will kick in. If they don't measure up, don't knock others down! The US he is referring to do not and never did create artificial disadvantages for the Caucasians/whites in order to favour the minorities. Even in creating more accommodating environments to curb their disadvantages, the minorities still had to meet a basic requirement which all others had to meet too! ! Now, the competition plays off very well! This rubbish has to stop! JAMB cannot decide to force people to a region that is mostly unsafe and whose inhabitants make it a point of duty to attack others not of same faith and tribe with them!

laffytaffy1:
I love your women too, even though they not wife or even gf material, they give the best head with (protection)

This is the silliness that degenerates to name-calling and stupid fights online.

It is disgusting really. If the people that engage in this crap engage half as much energy in research and innovative thinking, their regions and Nigeria will be far better but no, they'd rather sit here and fight virtual enemies. And to think some that do these things aren't even from the places/areas they claim. Just a function of mischief and joblessness. Such a shame.

princdebola201:
Re u one of them
OYA SHOW ME UR FLAT HEAD..??

Yep, u need help alright but unfortunately, it might not work until u realise and acknowledge that u do so keep exhibiting all u are. There's nothing else beyond this for you and truly u can't give what u don't have.

NewNigeriaMind:
The OP said he did a research on solid minerals in Nigeria and went on to say this blasphemy.

Even if there is no google, any geography student if asked about Gold deposit in Nigeria will first shout Osun state.

But then, as a Nigerian I am used to half educated Igbo scholars throwing around maps and data to back their lies

You have been trying very hard to turn this thread into a tribal mud-slinging match and so far no one has taken the bait. I hope it remains that way so you can see that it doesn't make u any better or greater being as petty as you've been. If you feel some information posted by the op is inaccurate then point them out or correct same without playing the ethnic card cos frankly it is getting old and sickening.

Nigeria today is in the mess it is because our leaders from time past collectively failed to develop agriculture. The effects today affect each region without reservation. So even if one region was supposedly the best in anything down to free education, all of that is lost now and the more decent and mature thing to do is profer solutions rather than the silly tribalism card you've been playing.

Before Nigeria came into existence people were eating and going about their lives just fine. In the time of regional governance regions were developing at their pace and free education or not, people got educated both in the SE and SW. Governance is a balancing act and is all about putting effective policies in place and not unsustainable ones.

midolian:
lol. So u even support stealing, but "with some respect"...how do u expect them to steal with some respect sef, when they had a leader that encouraged them to steal without "respect"?..A leader that was busy looting and had the guts to defend his actions by saying "stealing is not corruption"

Not necessarily supporting stealing, just creating a worst case scenario. Meanwhile is it possible to just address the subject matter without making it all about GEJ? The sums in question predate him and in all honesty humans do what they do on their own volition especially when someone is going to take the fall for their actions and when that person appears weak or unable to put his foot down.

Raymondenyi:
u really don't understand how the system works, humans are animals (albeit higher ones) if there re no stiff punitive measures to stroke offenders and deter potential ones u re in for this, humans being the animals they re will always wanna venture those wrong paths as long as there re no checks (not to talk of when mouth watering sums are involved) ... those contracts signed out to coys , the accruements from them are actually balkanised in percentages and equitably distributed... so nobody gets to ask whether it's done or not (don't ask me how I know this pls) the devastating thing about this act, is if u choose to stand by principle and refuse indulging u will be sidelined and believe me, u never get to hear of , talk less having the opportunity to seek any contract in future....

Look my sister.... what you need for a state to thrive are good laws and strong institutions (where they lack schism , massive breakdown, looting and every other vices u can think of abound as evident in our nation..)

It's just so crazy. And that's one major problem we've had in Nigeria, we've got stronger persons than institutions, our laws are either outdated or simply not implemented and most times crafted with some leeway for the offender. It's just...

Why are we Nigerians so heartless? If you're going to steal at least do so with some respect! It's bad enough that they'll pad contract sums but at least they should make sure the job is done! U pad the contracts, don't do the job and claim principles!

Sadly this cuts across all areas and sectors in the country and is the height of wickedness and non-patriotism.

princdebola201:
IT IS OFFICIAL EROSION RAVAGED LAND OF Biafra ARE CURSED..

I can see the reason they want to marry south south by force ,laugh wan kill me die...!!!
With all the chest beating and noise everywhere they have nothing to show for it..

NO WONDER THEY SAY EMPTY VESSEL MAKES THE LOUDEST NOISE.

They claimed they re lost tribe of isreal ,only to be the Cursed tribe of isreal (CAIN THE FUGUTIVE)
That's why they all leave their Land for daily food
Have never see a man that leave his comfort zone to go and suffer on another man"s Land

You see them runing after buses with galla on their flat head,
they re Slave to south west and others just like how
Isreal was used to develop Egypt
While their cursed Land remain Landlocked

THANK JAH I DIDN''T COME TO THIS WORLD THROUGH THIS CURSED TRIBE CALLED YEEB-HOES

U need help young man. How do u live with yourself when u have so much hatred, bitterness and vileness holed up inside u? What personal issue do u have with any Igbo person? Just name one thing he/she did to u and no other person could have done except an Igbo person! U probably grew up around them n other tribes and have had cause to study with them yet u come here to do these stuff! Is this d better Nigeria we all look forward to? The change starts with each one of us and it's not rocket science.

My goodness! There is just so much venom on this thread! We should be thinking of and proffering ideas on how to move the country forward and not throwing all these insults that amount to nothing more than the mb expended just to do so!

This should have been an educational thread that reminds us of what we have and don't make use of but some here rather turn it to a mud-slinging exercise and to what end? When u say the East cannot survive on its own if Nigeria should separate I just wonder how that belief came about! What is trade for? Develop what u have, sell the excess when produced in commercial quantities and buy what u need from those who have and vice versa! That's all it takes really and not all these name-calling and feeling of superiority. It takes us nowhere. There are countries that don't have much by way of natural resources but they have all they need and in fact, we prefer to buy things from such countries eg the UK so how did they get what they have? We produce crude oil yet we face terrible shortages while they don't have crude and there's never any scarcity...isn't that a problem that affects us all?

This is the reason why sound-minded people agitate for regional system of governance if not outright separation so each region will develop at its pace with what it has and no one will call the other parasite. It is the failing of our leaders and we citizens that has brought us to this point. Rather than wallow in it like pigs in mud without any shame trying to justify the reprehensible, we should engage in serious self-retrospection and think of ingenious ways to change the current reality we face. The fact that people here keep throwing barbs at whatever tribe they deem fit or deliberately sow some untruths just to keep the embers of hate flaming hot is completely shameful! People all over the world see these things and their perception can never be any good.

Once has he spoken and twice have you heard that Amaechi does not like money and his conscience would not allow him partake of corruption. That is why according to him, GEJ fought him abi he fought GEJ. Don't forget how much he said he spent on Ebola o! 10billion naira abi! I wonder how much Lagos that was the mainly affected place would have recorded that it spent. Flying monorail no be here sha!

laserjet:
Helloooo.....this is not about fighting corruption as misinterpreted by u. It is about taking measures to avoid total collapse of the naira. The alarming rate at which dollar flows in the country even makes one to wonder if dollar is our local currency.

I just feel there should be a limit to the deposit contrary to the CBN policy that said 'any'.

muh4lyf:
It's not about corruption rather than the strenght of naira to dollar... Lots of business are thriving cos of this which is very bad for our currency... Note: if Nigeria would be better we all have to make sacrifice...

My post was in reference to people that said the Senators were worried because the policy would affect dollars with which they steal our money. That's where the corruption theme came from. I wasn't responding directly to the op but rather to these posts below that put the 'corruption' spin on the request of the HoR for the CBN Governor to explain the current policy. If you'd followed the comments you would have understood what informed my post.

BashMe1:
Hehehe, Life will be difficult 4 dem not 2 steal in dollars. Thieves!!!

nnachukz:
I can feel their frustration. The hard currencies they easily loot our money in, can no longer be accepted in the bank for onward transfer to foreign hidden accounts.

[quote author=engrrichie92 post=36880214][/quote]I sha no be bros!

engrrichie92:
It has a whole lot..Never undermine the invaluable lessons from historic
al stories.

Take for instance if it's Indian prostitute for real,it could just teach some reckless youth on the dangers inherent in patronising sex workers popularly called ashewos
kapish?

Like they don't know d dangers inherent in patronising them already and it will take confirmation of cause of Abacha's death, prostitutes for instance, to teach them? OK!

Of what relevance is the nature/cause of his death to anything that has to do with anything?

bjdon:
You do not throw out the baby with the bath water.
Not all fx deposits are from looters, there are quite a lot of people who need to transfer FX for viable business or personal reasons, policy makers need to think carefully before implementing new policies.

Thank you! I was just going to point out same thing. The way the issue of corruption is being bandied around in this country today makes it difficult for people to realise that there are legitimate businesses and concerns which must thrive. They won't and shouldn't be allowed to collapse because we are fighting corruption!

Nigeria is not an island, other countries and business counterparts are busy too. It is this private sector, properly harnessed and regulated that will bring about the growth and diversity in our economy as is so desired.

These sycophants in the SE should not give the impression that Igbos will die if not appointed. It is a right and they ought to come from a position of strength to demand what rightfully belongs to the region and its people, not sit and trust in some promise which anyone can renege on. That is what it takes to be political representatives. They must never lose sight of the fact that they are first of all Nigerians, with equal rights and demands as all others and also importantly, of the Igbo extraction. Those two considerations must weigh over and above political affiliation whether APC, PDP or anything else especially at Federal level.

The benchmark must be the good of the people whether in unity or diversity. Igbos do not lack for qualified and capable hands so make that point clear Ikonne rather than hang ur head and whine, cap-in-hand about some promise!

joseph1832:
Okay, but I'll have you know that I never said the APC is full of saints, no ma'am I never said such, click this link and read this poem www.nairaland.com/2122619/says-spoken-word you'll know my feelings....

Not in those exact words but that is exactly what u implied when u said PDP recycled criminals and publicised political prostitution as if it's just them guilty. I'm glad we agree that d political class under whatever platform are almost completely greedy criminals. In other words you cannot begin to hold one up as more noble than the other. That is why this anti-corruption anthem will take the grace of God to be pursued the way they claim they will cos they too will be burned. The best bet of the government is to plug holes to prevent more siphoning of public funds then make up its mind to properly investigate all who may have partaken in bleeding Nigeria dry. All or nothing or at least evenly spread across board. Not what will have even the slightest appearance of selective justice.

joseph1832:
Point of correction, OBJ is not a member of the APC, now to answer you, both the APC and PDP are full of political prostitutes, people who prostitute themselves from one political party to the other just so they can get what they want!.

I should point it out to you that corruption is not just stealing money alone like you put it, it is something that is encompassing. Almost if not every Nigerian is corrupt.

Yeah, I'll concede that he supposedly remains 'partyless'. Corruption permeates every sector and boils down to taking what isn't yours or diverting earmarked funds for private purposes. Even refusing to do one's job because of some personal gain or vendetta is corruption. That it is all-encompassing is very much identified and acknowledged in my post. However when you deliberately say that it is the PDP that recycles criminals and encourages political prostitution, it behoves me and every well-meaning Nigerian to help u pull out the log in your eyes b4 u can competently pick out the speck in others. Them politicians are one and the same and hopefully Nigeria will survive their greed and become what she should be.

To further clarify though, there is no part of my initial post that claims corruption is on just all about stealing money. It is not as I put it! You might want to read it again.

omenka:
Frankly, I don't understand the point you are trying to make....

Didn't expect you to...ask around or let it rest. Those who will understand will do so cos it's written in plain and simple language.

International lies! It is one thing to run the show in house and pull some wool over the eyes of some citizens but when it's beyond borders our leaders need to be careful! See how the story of speaking to the King of Morocco snowballed into some diplomatic fiasco but for quick interventions. Hmm!

omenka:
Because some of "theirs" were given appointments.

Wow!! It feels so good to be sooo busy one could barely have time for nairalanding. At least one is spared the trauma of reading useless and stupid comments from those who wish to see our amiable president fail.


Beremx, that stuff is really beginning to take its toll. Work wan kill me walahi.

You are spared the 'trauma of useless and stupid comments' as u call them because what ought to be done should be done. In as much as we have ethnic differences as an undeniable reality in this country, it is a joint project and efforts must be made to embrace all.

Just as no tribe has the monopoly of crime so does none have monopoly of intelligence and integrity. It is therefore the duty of an able leader to shop for what he needs among our diversity thus harnessing the advantages rather than exploit our differences to favour one and leave out another.

joseph1832:
Another twisted opinion opinionated by you and yours barcanista, political prostitute extra ordinaire!.

The same PDP who field rogues and recycled them, and popularized political prostitution is the most democratic party in Nigeria? Surely we have to question this mans sanity.

Are those same so-called recycled rogues not part of the APC today? Have they undergone a sudden baptism of fire that wipes away their past 'sins'? Is the APC the home of salvation? Obasanjo, Atiku, Saraki, Amaechi, Tambuwal and co...to mention but a few, did they not come into political limelight on the PDP platform? Are they all squeaky clean? Are u saying that if u do a complete and thorough, in fact even perfunctory investigation of just Lagos State that we will not see and hear of monumental cases of corruption just in the one state? Has it not been PDP-run? Even Buhari that is hailed as the father of integrity, can u take an oath for him that he was 100% accountable and no atom of corruption and financial mismanagement can be traced to him?

Political prostitution! What does it mean if it is not jumping from one party to another? Who is the most profligate in this if not Atiku? How many so called members of APC were there from day 1? Yet APC accepts them with open arms and confers on them a certificate of integrity and sainthood abi? Please be honest in your analysis and don't throw stones when u reside in a very fragile glasshouse!

Jorussia:
.op don't mislead people here.

Just how has he 'misled' people? Someone takes pains to do some research and arrives at conclusions based on verifiable information yet all u can do is ask him not to mislead people, how? Do u have information to the contrary? Then bring it forward and let there be a mature rubbing of minds.