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Tosyn007: Those are rappers, we are talking motivational speakers, have any idea how much these rich men make from selling books on how they attained success, people wanna read them cos they believe they'll get ideas how they too can attain wealth

Those are rich men. See..i too can play that game. We're talking about the reader not the characters in the manga. If i had a friend who always acknowledges me i'll be happy. However if i read a book or a movie where the character kept praising his friends over and over for the entirety of the movie or book, i'll get bored.

[quote author=K.chingz]Remember Kisame always had it tough facing Guy sensei, and we all know Guy ain't a match for Kakashi so What are y'all saying?[/quote]It doesn't wrk like that guy. Kisame thrives on chakra...the more chakra u have...the more powerful he is. He'll drain u dry. However guy's techniques aren't chakra based. That why he was able to beat kisame. Kakashi's techniques are chakra based. He'll be drained dry if he doesn't come up witha gud plan to counter. He can't jux kamui his way out...he risks possible counter where he might be too weak to defend himself.

[quote author=K.chingz]Remember Kisame always had it tough facing Guy sensei, and we all know Guy ain't a match for Kakashi so What are y'all saying?[/quote]below

Tosyn007: And you find something wrong with that? Put yourself in his shoes, if you had been the object of rejection and scorn in the whole of Lasgidi and you work your way to being the richest in Nigeria and then everyone comes to respect you, wouldnt you have built a library full of books about your life?

Then people will start to find u boring, because u start to sound like a broken record. that's why rappers who always talk about grace to grass themes in their songs fade away fast cos they start to get boring, repeating the same thing everytym.

Baddestguyp: dats y i said he would defeat itachi with enough chakra. As for the second part, it just doesnt make sense for one eye to use kamui without contact while d other needs contact except that obito's kamui doesnt hav side-effects nd doesnt drain chakra lik kakashis own. Obito doesnt have ems, yet he uses kamui anyhow. Dats y i tink his kamui doesnt require much chakra. We hav seen its different 4rm kakashis own

No, actually it seems so because obito has an uchiha body while kakashi doesn't. That's why it drains kakashi yet obito's body was natural for it, it supposed to be the same power, i mean it's the same eyes, but ofcos he had to make kakashi look gud after making him look poor for a long tym. Kishimoto horrendoeus writing at best i guess. Tosyn that's anoda instance for u.
And how did u know obito had no ms? did i miss the part that it was mentioned?

Tosyn007: And what happened after thatm he barely could run at human speed to save Sakura-stupid

+1

Baddestguyp: the sword n susano would be sucked in b4 it even gets near him. Check out d short kakashi vs sasuke fight. Even i realised i underestimated kakashi. The speed at wich he sucked in susano's arrow was out of this world

but i doubt it's really that easy to do, otherwise he wouldn't be wasting his tym on fights. Don't anyone find it strange that kakshi can use his kamui in longer ranges when the more proficient user can't even do it unless he touches u?

Tosyn007: Naruto already beat him hands down before they got to the jutsu part, and if I get my analysis correctly, Pain even talked more than Naruto in that part...Naruto is not all just talk meen if thats what you are tryna point out.

Actually, i hated pains talking so much as well. Jux kill them and stop yapping...we know u felt pain...it's in ur name da.m.n it. Thing is...naruto talks too much...jux like luffy...and sometyms he sounds like a drama queen so much....i always roll my eyes. Speeches are allowed but for christ sakes it's always the same speeches about friends...family...how the villages now love him and he'll protect them...c'mon...how long will his go on. Naruto ain't all talk but he does talk a lot of unrealistic crap. He's no ninja...he's a freaking beauty queen ''what i want most is...world peace'' *clap clap clap*

rapmike: Naruto was jiraiya's disciple as wel,so he and Nagato shard dat connection of going afta world peace,and if u claim dat naruto meant nting 2 him b4 meeting Nagato,den jiraiya meant nting 2 nagato as wel b4 dia 1st meeting. And u did nt explain wat made obito influence him

Whaaaaaat! Jiraiya saved his life when he was a kid and naive and gallible. How is dat not meaning anything? U try hard to make naruto relevant but i'm sorry u're failing. That connection of fellow students which pain jux found out fighting naruto is nothing at all compared to jiraiya's infuence on him. Please stop this.
Obito's influenced was shown to have become more apparent when pain lost yahinko, obito shared the same pain so it was easy to be influenced by someone who shared ur exact same pain and didn't try to ''talk no jutsu'' him

hold on...people actually think kakashi can defeat kisame and itachi? Looool. Those who r saying copying kisame's jutsu's are a joke. It requires massive amount of chakra to do what kisame does. Him copying his jutsu in their first encounter means nothing cos kisame was aiming for asuma and kurenai, so he made that jutsu a bit manageable. He looks dumb but he's actually highly skilled with speed nd strength. The guy actually plays with his opponents b4 killing them. Try copying that tsunami of a jutsu and he'll die of chakra exhaustion. As for itachi...i'll let the itachi fans take this one.

rapmike: Hey,am bck, nw naruto getting d rinnes wil be Heavy BS unles kishi uses five chapters 2 explain hw and y. And 4 naruto talking 2 nagato 2 d lvl of reviving d village, u hav 4gotten dat obito said dat nagato is easily influencd,which is true considering dat he was influencd by jiraiya,yahiko,obito and finally naruto

Oh dear...Pain got influenced by jiraiya as a kid and jiraiya was a father figure to him. Yahinko and konan his siblings. Naruto? Who was naruto to him b4 the fight. Naruto was jux his ticket to his dream world and nothing more. Don't compare the level of power jiraiya and yahinko had over pain to that section of talk no jutsu naruto had with him. Didn't u see how he didn't even want to hear jiraiya out during their fight? Cos he nolonger had that influence. Everything he believed in has been shattered, much like obito and his goal was his life now. Now how da hell did naruto penetrate that thick layer of hatred, that the father figure cudn't even penetrate? of cos with talk no jutsu...cos talk no jutsu has infinte power of love and friendship.... Hooorraaaaaaay!

Tosyn007: I don't watch bleach...gimme Naruto instances.

kakashi being able to beat obito when he had a rinnegan and a sharingan, forbidden jutsus and didn't even make use of any of them. Just allowed kakashi to pierce a hole in him. Absolutely horrendeous.

Tosyn007: I honestly don't understand your qualms with 'talk no jutsu', c'mon even Sasuke talked to Itachi and Danzo inbetween their fights, Naruto has always been founded on the issue of love and friendship so what the heck? And as for Naruto invincibility, Neji, Haku, Pain all had him beat until he Kyuubi came to his rescue. Sasuke even beat him with the help of Kurama. So Naruto aint invincible, without Kyuubi, hes got Chakra way more than Jiraiya. The only people with more Chakra than Naruto are Hashirama, Tobirama, Tsunade, Kushina and Pain.

Sasuke spoke to itachi and danzo in between their fight? Is that ur counter to my talk no jutsu claim? Google the meaning of talk no jutsu, u don't seem to know what it means. Issue of love and friendship...maybe too much love and friendship don't u think....every minute we're reminded of it (naruto x sasuke), hence...talk no jutsu....oh and don't forget the famous...''i'll be hokage'' okay we get it, u wanna be hokage...we heard u the first 50 tyms u said it. Jeez. kyuubi came to his rescue then he later talked no jutsued pain to death...literarily. He even talk no jutsued the kyuubi into submission. I ramped my head into a rock when the kyuubi was cheering for naruto like alittle girl cheerleader, how worse can it get. Sasuke's case was to progress the story. Till today i dnt knw how sasuke won that fight. Haku's case has been explained.....stop making me repeat my self.

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Tosyn007: Dude, we are talking fiction, so their stories are logically unrealistic...if its that easy to write stuffs, I'm sure you'd have surpassed William Shakespeare at the age 12.

Let's put this into perspective...let's take bleach for instance...bleach introduced us to it world....making us know the dos and don'ts, capble and incapable...so we knew what would be an asspull and what won't be. Now in bleach characters can be killed...ala espada and fodder shinigamis. However we start to find it horribly outrageous when shinigami like abarai renji get slashed up and still manage to survive while the strongest espada dies with a single slash. that's horrible writing. Contextual realism has to be met as well. U can't jux go breaking ur own rules like that. Imagine all of a sudden naruto gains rinnegan because aparently, he is a descendant of the so6p's second son. Now that would make me cry for humanity.

Edit: hey i didn't even notice it was u i was responding to. Guess we really don't think alike that much.

Tosyn007: Jiraiya Sama's death still tops the list for me...very emotional..

Now there's something we both can agree on.

Tosyn007: You won't back down if you got facts to back your claims up, you only kept repeating same facts...which of his fights did he end with 'talk no jutsu'?...he finishes fights before he starts talking to his opponents. You're just failing to realise how strong and resileient Naruto is. Uzumakis don't die easy, Kushina shoulda taught you that.

Dude i've stated with manga examples where u try to spin it with excuse such as he's an uzimaki he's got the force blablabla...someone said cos he's the main character and i go with that, ergo, my beef with the literature right there, but if that ain't facts for u..then what can i possibly hope to achieve. U jux won't agree would me. Naruto is resillient but he ain't invincible...however kishi makes us think he is, even when stronger opponents have shown less feats . abeg u can swallow whatever kishi gives u but i won't. Enough with it...we shud jux agree to disagree on this matter...u totally love naruto's character...i hate it.

Oh and for ur talk no jutsu: naruto vs pain. He talk no jutsu'ed the guy into submission and made him revive the whole village...now that's the a.s.spull of a.s.spulls. For the rest he employs them within the fight. That my problem. He talks too much. Too much unecessary drama. That's why i don't even watch the movies anymore....it's even worse there, with total invincibilty, lots of friendship bond talks (really this is a huge theme in naruto, bleach and one piece), and him always defeating the last boss.. and it's really getting old. It's like they win due to the bond of friendship....and the stupid will of fire. Shi.tty writing. kishi fire burn u...hahahahahahahah.

panaroma: yes agreed, perfectly normal, but its an anime... do you question the writers of the superman,batman toon series why dey allow the bad guys like to get away even if they cud have got them, or esp batman, even tho human no special powers fall from a high building on his back and gets up afta a few grunts, or he takes a hit is smashed against the wall, yet stands up after a few grunts,u see what i mean, its an anime! lets just enjoy it...

I don't know if u still watch bleach and one piece...I can't stand them anymore cos they have become a joke. In super hero comics they don't even take themselves serious (costumes are one)....batman is smart, true but his methods are unrealistic. Now japanese mangas on the other hand take themselves serious or atleast try to ( death note, hunter x hunter, bleach b4 it became a mess, code geass, ghost in a shell, fma:brotherhood and naruto: atleast it tries) so normally their literature is can be critisized because they aim a higher than ur average comic with a solid story line that continuos from beginning to end with each episode and must be looked at as such. If i wanted jux an anime i'd already be watching dragon ball z.

[quote author=Nairaland=info]Korrected
@kimco
u don 2 visit narutobase everysec....easi bro[/quote]Hahahhahaah dude u're ryt but the other sections are quite boring....but if u have any recommendations (section) i'll be glad.

Tosyn007: Watch well, Naruto first captivates people with his actions and characters before he uses talk no jutsu..as for his fight with Haku, Naruto passed out on the ground before Sasuke saved him there "killing" himself..it was when he woke to see Sasuke lying down that he entered the fox cloak mode.

he talk no jutsu his opponents to end fights....as in the last thing to do. Also he talks too much and does so little...till plot no jutsu kicks in ala kiba's fight. The second part of ur post is everything wrong with the manga. He's passed out yet when sasuke falls he regains consciousness and goes beserk? let that sink in for a minute. But i think i'll end here. It's dragging on too much...i'm repeating myself too much.

panaroma: thank you very much... its an anime

We are questioning the literature. Jux like u critisize a book or a movie. It's perfectly normal.

Djtm: lol true but kakashi might actually win. Remeber what gai did to kisame

I think gai won because he was the natural enemy of kisame (no chakra in techniques). Kakashi is the opposite. He won't last against kisame really. Except he can kamui his way out of it. Dats even out for dabate.

Feraz: Kimco, calm down. No one is saying Kishi isn't prone to mistakes. If you go through the thread from page 1 (of which I know you can't, you'll see that most of us have critisized Kishi and the way he upgrades people). As seen with Obito and Kakashi in Obito's dimension despite having the rinnegan. I think you should watch that fight again. See where he said this is a technique befitting for a kyuubi's jinchuuriki. Then Yamato or Kakashi said he did that to counter the technique

Okay dude...u're right @ ur first paragraph.

so he got into that form after naruto arrived?

Djtm: kisame is a h2O user, kakashi can use lightning. Water is weak against lightning.

U mean the water that can suck any kind of chakra....that lightening wont do nothing. Kisame is really buffed up guy...he has a counter to his elemental weakness...if u're weaker against it...jux suck out the chakra...lol.

Kaycee7: Understand the question. I mean with the hearts inside his body. The hearts only execute jutsu when they are outside his body.

He merged with them not inside his body...wasn't that the intial argument? True! when inside his body...they can't but when outside and merged as well...they shud be able to.

Baddestguyp: I've noticed most people dont knw the difference between chidori nd raikiri. I was arguing wit someone nd he said chidori nd raikiri are the same, only dat sasuke gav raikiri a different name by calling it chidori. because of this i hav decided to clear up d misunderstanding. Let me start 4rm the scratch: kakashi formed chidori as a concentrated eletric bolt(or watever word to replace bolt). He named it chidori (meaning: a thousand birds ) cos the noise it made was similar to the sound of many birds chirping(singing). Bt he wanted to enhance it, so he tried to add the rasengan bt he couldnt (thats y he can use rasengan). Note: remember he said naruto surpassed him with rasenshruiken, this meant naruto was able to combine the rasengan with an element. Back to the story, since he failed, kakashi decided to improve the chidori. He did this by concentrating a huge amount of lightening (condensed lightening i tink) into the jutsu and named it raikiri (meaning: lightening blade). Kakashi made raikiri an s-class version of chidori and hence it became his special assassination technique. If anyone has sumtin to add or substract or a correction to make, feel free to do so. I also tot chidori nd raikiri were thesame in the past nd im sure many naruto fans dont know the difference

so question: is raikiri as noisy as chodori?

Tosyn007: Naruto vs Kiba was nothing special, Uzumakis are very resilient
I wouldnt consider his fight Kimimaro a fight cos Gaara came intervened before it got really started.
His fight versus Haku, dont forget Kurama came to his rescue and that fight was awesome.
Well I'm yet to see his rematch with Pain so i wont comment on that.
His fight versus Gaara was epic meen, he had to summon Gamabunta to fight the one tail and he and Gaara beat the living daylight outta each other. Talk no jutsu came in after both guys couldn't lift a finger against each other. Naruto had to crawl with his head to where Gaara was lying to talk to him.
Which of Sasuke's fights was as epic as Naruto versus Pain?
Naruto's has a naturally strong life force just like Nagato, which gave him a whole lotta endurance, but dont forget he landed in the hospital more times than any of his mates. As for other jinchurikis, no tailed beast is as stubborn as Kurama and he'd prefer been toiled with by Naruto than to be captured by another person.

As for your last paragraph, no matter how droned up you might have been carved out, there's still that element of human in everyone. Its realistic,,,he proves what he says before he says them.

whatever i say u jux won't agree with me and jux come up with explanations which for me aren't explanatory enough. in haku's fight for eg, he was wounded lots of time yet didn't show weakness. Then he got the kyuubi upgrade. right after sasuke got ''killed''... Try as much as u want that fight was boring to watch.
He can't be talk no jutsuing everyone he meets for God's sake c'mon. Zabuza was a demon of the mist for a reason. Yes u're right but this a world of ruthlessness drilled to the core. Is naruto a kind of psychologist who's words drills into that core. indoctrination works for the reason that u shield from such bs like naruto's talk no jutsu. Those ninjas are indoctrinated so they don't release info...switch to the the other side....etc. And why is it that only naruto's talk no jutsu works... Nobody's work like his. Total bs

Baddestguyp: Kishi try but why didnt kakashi use the "1000 years of pain jutsu" on kakuzu Me tinks it would've worked

lol

KazeKage1: Umm, did you read my question well at all?

I wasn't dealing with ur question...i was dealing with ur claim that madara is a much more proficient user of the rinnegan. ur question however i agree with. But that's kishimoto for u. He keeps adding so much power that he makes powerful techniques irrelevant to newer techniques...anoda bad aspect of his writing. Doesn't anyone miss the days where techniques used were not land destroyers and weaker ninjas had a chance to shine based on team work and their wits? Now it's more of dragon ball z lite version.

Kaycee7: I disagree with the bolded part. Where has it been shown that Kakuzu can use other elements with the hearts inside him?

Because those hearts have chakra in them and that part of them which perform the techniques is still present. I'll go on to assume that he merged because he wanted to increase his defence and attack which includes still having the ability to perform long range elementals. Not everything should be spelt out for u dawg.

viruz007: ermmm for dem talking abt kakuzu, baba actually had to merge his hearts cuz he felt the power of naruto's rasenshuriken... You people seem to have forgotten how that jutsu works. Wind slicing every chakra points in the body with the number of attacks unreal. Kakuzu could be deceived abeg. He put all his energy trying to get the fake naruto, meanwhile the real one was der attacking from behind besides he's not a sensory ninja so keep calm and remember, it's an anime... Enjoy!!!

i'm sorry correct me if i'm wrong....did kakuzu merge b4 or after he saw naruto?

[quote author=SIR cum a lot]Naah the relationship as always been their it just more civil now the nine tail as to protect naruto to survive Remember the team 7 reunion at orochimaru lair when the nine tail warned sasgay not to kill naruto.
This manga is called NARUTO he has the plot on his side if it was about jinchurikis them maybe kishi would kill him off.[/quote]he heals instantly when in kyuubi mode, heals faster when he rests. When fighting without being in kyuubi mode he is still suceptible to wounds. He was still a kid....uzumaki or not he was a kid. A wound is a wound for christ sakes and chakra wount help u with that. I agree the manga is about him and he can't die...but atleast the writer shud make things believable. Naruto can't be saving the day all the tym (exaggeration, but u get the point)
For an insight of incredible writing u shud read/watch full metal alchemist: brotherhood. If u have already then refer to it and see how the main protagonist wasn't made into an overblown power house.