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They committed the crime of spreading foreign nonsense and they were rightly jailed. Look on the bright side, they don’t need to hire a babysitter while they cool their heels.

triplechoice:
Ignore that person.

Lol, the Dragon got your panties in a bunch? Shit, the Almighty Leprechaun hasn’t even shown up yet and you’re already discombobulated!

Workch:
How about aliens then?

What does agnosticism have to do with aliens?
What do nonsense like gods have to do with aliens?

An “alien” is simply a living organism on a planet other than earth and given the amount of planets that exists, it’s highly probable that these organisms exist. There is no supernatural or other mumbo jumbo regarding aliens.
Life exists on this planet so it follows that life exists on other planets.

triplechoice:
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I didn't say it's silly idea. I said the question shouldn't be asked in the first place if he knows what he is doing.

There are good reasons to speculate or talk about the source of our universe, and it's why people everywhere have concluded about a God , big bang, or anything else closer to it ,but non whatsoever for flying dragons over people's head.

Tell me ,on what basis is he asking about that? How does it connect to anything tangible that normal people discuss everyday?



Your friend claimed not to ever see a flying dragon or believe in it, and it's also certain he doesn't know of anyone else who has ever seen or believed in it.

If that's the case, why asking another person in the same position as himself to prove why they cannot see what is not there ?

Is that not madness?

Who knows? He probably might be seeing one recently and wants to test if others are begining to see the same thing..Tell him to see a doctor or let him read about the "five whys of insanity" so he stop with the mad talk.

I only responded to him at first because of his mentions that I was running away and also to see if has anything to surprise me with, but non so far and you want to come and defend the craziness. You are jobless really

I think both of you can't stand the thought you might be making a mistake concerning the position you have taken on the matter and because of that wants to drag others who have decided to be neutral.



There are agnostics theist, I know, but I'm not that .So, don't try to use subterfuge to drag me into your usual fight with theists on this board.


This is the last response you will get from me concerning this issue.

The Dragon is as qualified as gods to be “the source” of universe. Just because they haven’t “concluded about the Dragon” doesn’t mean it’s not the source.

jaephoenix:
Lol. I simply asked you if you see any dragons. How does that translate to claiming a dragon is hovering over you?
Its a simple question which (for some reason) agnostics find that uncomfortable.
But now u have answered, I asked a rejoinder. Please do answer that.
We are getting somewhere

They think that calling nonsense “god” somehow exempts it from other ideas based on bullshit.

triplechoice:
Keep your support to yourself. I don't need it.

Give it to the person who has asked a silly question.

The question is not silly because there is no reason to take whatever anyone calls god to be anything more than nonsense. If you are agnostic about gods then it follows that you should also be agnostic about Jaeohoenix’s dragon.

If you say that Jaephoenix’s dragon is a silly idea and a nonstarter, then whatever you are agnostic about can be dismissed the same way. So, I changed dragon to god in your post.

triplechoice:
Why did you edit my comments to misrepresent me ? Where did I affirm any god before now when the discussion is about Dragon?

Did I skip my medication or what ?

You’re agnostic about Dragon so I was supporting your position about how ridiculous god is.

triplechoice:
I know you will waste my time.

The questions about god doesn't make any sense in the contest of what is being discussed here, and I know you won't see it.

We are concerned about the real world itself and how it came about and not your imaginary god.

Nobody, except a mad man, would ask another person if they see a flying god over their head. Please I'm not calling you mad. I just want you to think of what you want to do.

Is it common to see that sort of thing?

Imagine somebody walking up to you to ask you about gods

And if you manage to reply ,no

Then, he insist you prove why you can't see it . what nonsense!

Please be honest with yourself. How would you regard such a person, oga doctor?

The Dragon created the world.

The Sun is the result of the Dragon’s breath when They thought “This expanse We have created deserves to experience the sensation of existence”.
Then , the Dragon thought, “Let there be an object to provide light and warmth, to nourish the earth and also cause destruction” and They took a deep breath and exhaled such that the Sun emanated from the Dragon and there was light and warmth along with destruction.
The Book of Scales and Fire - Chapter 3:16

The day turned into night, the birds chirped at the sudden darkness, the crickets came to life in a cacophony of clicking sounds. The Dragon’s spirit came down on The Twins and declared them the good and the evil to balance out creation. Then the Expanse opened up and the spirit descended like a seven-headed dragon and a roar was heard in the celestial realms, “These are Our progenies, in whom We are well pleased”
The Book of Brimstones and Sapphires - Chapter 4:19

The fool says in his mind, there is no Dragon.
Psalm 101

PsychoTheRapist:
The hidden archives of the Vatican has vast knowledge accessible to only a few (elite) clergy of the church.

Truly, there is a lot we don't know.

What don’t you know? That it’s all total bullshit?

I agree with the greasy charlatan on this issue. Must be a blue moon!

mbaise1000:
GOD has His ways and He does His things in His own ways, you are free to see and understand it anyway you want, it was God who created Judas in the FIRST place and it was Him that allowed to be among the 12,
Then instead of resorting to insults, you can always say what whatever you believe in told you is the correct thing, I wouldn't know if you believe in anything at all, if you do let's hear it, a person who is supposed to be free according to you shouldn't be afraid of saying hlwhere they stand, though I doubt very much if you are really free as you think, I said so because people who are free don't display such anger and frustrations as you showed through your comment

Awwwwww shut up!!! Lol, I’m just laughing at you people now. Brain addled perpetual slaves from the common man to the leaders. I just read that Lagos governor’s wife blamed an elevator accident on “spiritual attack”. Lol, I’m done.

Stupid b!tch, it wasn’t a spiritual attack. I saw it in a vision that it was a Bush Baby and a Leprechaun that caused the fatal mishap.

mbaise1000:
Jesus said, it is WRITTEN that the soon of man must, suffer and be killed but cursed be that person through whom it will be DONE.
He was talking of Judas

So in this convoluted scheme, Judas was an unwitting pawn that was inherently cursed.
Lol, silly freaking nonsense.
The day you people realize the sheer stupidity of your abrahamic slave ideologies is the day you become free.

vdestro:
See display of madness

You can join your gods in the stoning line.

preciousee17:
Imagine you put in your objection...
And Jesus says, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"... What's your next move?

I pick up a stone and stone him. Then I fetch his father so I can stone him too.

Workch:
lol 😂
Atheists actually reason like theists in the opposite direction

I know they go in opposite directions while the agnostic chases his own tale.

I sit on the sideline amused by it all.

Workch:
do you understand what a deistic god means?
It's a god claim by deist based on caused and effect, they argue that this universe cannot start on its own and since evidence suggest that gods don't interfere via miracles or revelation, it means something must have started everything and that something does not interfere.

How does this even compare to sango?

Two things:
1. The universe cannot start on its own
2. The thing that started the universe does not interfere henceforth.

We have evidence for number 2, we do not have evidence for or against number 1. We need evidence against number 1 to prove that such thing is nonsense. We cannot call it nonsense if we don't know how the universe started actually

This is just rubbish and I don’t think you are even smart or educated enough to realize it.

Workch:
we have scientific fact that a human can not cause thunder, it's a fact. We don't have scientific fact as to whatever start or how the universe started. It's why a diestic God question remains very open

What about the deistic Goddess question?

MaxInDHouse:
Wàhálà! Wàhálà!! Wàhálà!!!

Unbelievers are confused within themselves.

This is exactly what i've been saying all these while so if we don't have all the evidence that life was created it's the same as saying we don't have any evidence that life wasn't created but we are here and we need to find a way to cohabit peacefully if we are intelligent indeed!

Man shoo and go f_ck your kid or whatever you cult psychos do.

Workch:
it's not nonsense until you disprove it. Like with evidence of how the universe started and a creator was not involved else it remains a possibility.

I don’t have to disprove anything. You make an extraordinary or nonsensical claim and I reject it outright. I don’t have to say anything but call it nonsense and it’s up to you to prove it. However, I KNOW FOR A FACT that you have no evidence and can’t prove anything because your claims are nonsense. I also know it’s utter nonsense because I can make the same wild claims and would consider you gullible or stupid for entertaining the possibility that it’s not total bullshit.

Workch:
in science, we make claims without evidence a lot, it's called hypothesis. Don't you know how science works?
Albert Einstein general theory of relativity was a claim for Years until proven with evidence.
Albert Einstein static universe hypothesis was a claim that we disproved with evidence.
The difference with science, is that while so many claims exist, we only make the ones we have evidence for a fact and never become close minded to those we don't have evidence for or against yet. That's why atheism is flawed and not scientific until we truly demystify deism.

Bla bla bla. Stop referring to science.

Workch:
give me an example of a god not creating everything?

I don't have example of a god creating everything, I don't have example for a god not creating everything either.

You don’t have an example of a leprechaun creating gods
You don’t have an example of a leprechaun not creating gods either

Workch:
They are not the same as deistic god. We can easily disprove those with evidence.
We cannot disprove a deistic god

What evidence “disproves” them but doesn’t “disprove” the deistic god?

Is this deistic god your god?

How many deistic gods do we have?

Is there a race of deistic gods just like we have a race of humans?

Workch:
nonody has been able to demystify a deistic god. Not even atheists.

You can’t demystify it because nonsense is nonsense. You can’t make it clearer, you can’t simplify it, you can’t make it less vague because it’s nonsense.

Workch:
you should present a counter evidence because that's how science works.

This is not science. Making wild claims without evidence is not science. Wtf?

Workch:
It's why atheism is not scientific.

I don’t recall any atheists saying atheism is scientific!

Workch:
In science, once a scientist makes a hypothesis, it's really not necessarily the scientist that needs to falsify it.
An example is the darwinian theory of evolution, Darwin made numerous observations and created a hypothesis, Darwin did not necessarily provide testable evidence for it. It was years after he died that other scientists validated it.

Your claims are not science!

Don’t avoid these:
Give an example of this god “creating” anything.

Give an an example of how this god “creates”.

Workch:
There are many concept of gods, depending on one's delusions. It's why we have amadioha, sango, yahweh etc with different attributes. I don't care about these guys.

I'm interested in demystifying the deistic god. Should I tell you bout it so you can be a bit foucs?

When you realize your delusions you will know that amadioha, sango, and yahweh are as real as your deistic god.
“Demystifying” lol

Workch:
I don't think anything created us. I'm agnostic.
Theists think so, since I don't have evidence against it yet, I cannot outrightly reject it, especially the deistic concept.

What’s so special about the theistic or deistic claim that you can’t outrightly reject it?

What evidence do they have of this creator?

What kind of “evidence against it” do you require?

Do you treat all baseless claims like this?

Workch:
I think that anyone who should reject it should clearly demonstrate to us with a counterevidence.

Why should they present counter-evidence to something that is nonsensical or without evidence?

Don’t avoid these:
Give an example of this god “creating” anything.

Give an an example of how this god “creates”.

Workch:
I don't know the definition or attribute of God.
One only attribute I think a god should have to someone that is capable of creating us.

What makes you think anything “created” us.

Give an example of this god “creating” anything.

Give an an example of how this god “creates”.

Swissli:
I Don't Actually Believe This Is Justice, The Man Has Already Lived Out His Life, His Only Punishment Is In Hell

It’s okay, Jesus has already forgiven him and he will be in heaven with the girl he murdered. He is a Man of God and it was an attack by the devil.

Maynman:
Is workch, agnostic to a god?
Or is he agnostic to a “creator”?

Because god doesn’t mean creator.

I don’t know. The Big Bang could be the fart of a gigantic leprechaun. I’m agnostic about it though.

I’m agnostic about Sango and Thor. Who really is the god of thunder and lightning??
Even though science says gods do not cause thunder and lightning, I’m still agnostic about Sango and Thor because there is no evidence they don’t exist.

paxonel:
how do you test religious claims?

You come out at midnight during a full moon and dance buck naked while saying incantations.
Or you listen to some jackass say the silliest and convoluted shit imaginable in order to convince you that nonsense makes sense.

And you will extort the stupid and gullible so affording the petrol won’t be a problem. Gorilla Ayodele will be fine.

Workch:
He stated that claims of certainty in any matter, whether science or religion, should be backed by evidence, and proposed the agnostic method to examine claims based on evidence.

The spirit of the almighty leprechaun sitting on my shoulder says that Huxley can claim agnosticism about leprechauns and unicorns to his heart’s content but science does not require agnosticism. Pretending that religion and the sciences can even be discussed with the same framework is either dishonest or delusional.

The sciences have methods to collect evidence fir study while religion and other similar bullshit are strictly about belief without evidence. A claim of certainty in religion can be summarily dismissed as quickly as the person making the claim can formulate it because the claim would be invariably based on bullshit and nonsense. And if there is a modicum of truth it is often pedestrian and buried in metaphor or allegory.

So you can talk till you’re blue in the face and cite a thousand “agnostics” who are searching for evidence of nonsensical beliefs, at the end of the day, agnosticism has nothing to do with science.

The agnostic is one who can’t discard his concept of god but wishes to differentiate it from other gods whose mythology or attributes he disagrees with. Thus the god becomes “unknowable”.

Whether it is the active god of the theist, the myriad gods of the polytheist, the lazy or indifferent god of the deist, the “unknowable” god of the agnostic, the god the atheist does not believe in, the gods of the Assyrians, the gods of the Sumerians, the god of the Yorubas, the god of Tom Cruise, the gods who authorized the Indian caste system(with the priests conveniently at the top), the god the Carthaginians sacrificed their children to, the god that the Romans sacrificed their children to, the genocidal god of the chosenites, and all the gods you’ve never heard of, I confidently declare them all bullshit.

The Roman emperor Flavius Vespasian was said to have healed a blind man and made a lame walk during his visit to the temple of Serapis Christus in the 1st century.
If you ask most people what they know of Serapis, some would probably guess it a cosmetic line or fashion label. But once upon a time some people were theists because of Serapis while some were atheists about Serapis. Lol, of course some were “agnostic” and are still searching for evidence that will let them decide if Serapis exists or not.

jaephoenix:
Bless you brother. I happen to receive the same revelation. We're linked in the Spirit, probably tequila

Haaaa, I think it’s old St. Jameson the pious Irish.