₦airaland Forum

Negroid001:
➜But you do God. Which one of em, Odin, Yahaweh or Zeus?

I have read there are over 4000 different religions meaning they are at least 4000 different deities/pantheons out there at this point. 🤔

Negroid001:
✓ See long write up. So what football club do you support? Sorry what religious denomination do you belong to?

I don't do religion or football. 🥱🥱

illicit:
➜U don't need a book to know God Those people u mention are humans and it's another human that wrote about them Books are of different types Some books can make u or mar u Because it's human

What is up with this nonsense you keep spewing? We are talking here of the actions of humans. 🤔

You claimed that those who take part in money ritual are not orisa worshippers even though they claim that they in fact worship orisa. The onus falls on you to provide us with proof of your counterclaims. You have done absolutely nothing to make yourself believable in this. Posting more of the same goobledegook ain't helping your arguement in any way. 🤔

amoco:
✓ It's not enough to say "it does not". I was hoping you will show me the contact between children and parents on this. You have non and so there is none.
It's a rule of thumb and it covers both.
2. In Africa, this is the norm. Elsewhere where a child takes a loan to fund his or her education on their own, maybe you can say the child doesn't owe their aged parents any duty of care.
✓ Again , I am trying to see what you call manipulation here unless you mean the society actually manipulates adults to take care of children and then manipulates people to think it is unreasonable for aged adults to be taken care of by their children.

1. No such legal contract exists. 🤔

2. That norm only exists in your mind. Again, there are no laws that mandate children take care of their adult parents or any adults for that matter. So, you need to be able to separate delusion from reality at this point. 🤨🥱

3. It is manipulation/fraud to require something ,without adequate agreed-upon compensation, from someone else where the law does not obligate any such. 🥱🥱

Epiphany77:
use your head.

You first! 🥱🥱

WatchYourSix:
➜I dont get ur context of bullying … how is expecting your own folks to love you and check up on you at your lonely time called bullying??
➜ Just as children ddnt ask to be born, humans dont ask to be old… it’s a vicious cycle designed nature
➜ Like I said there are no guarantees because even children can die before their parents …. But if children are still alive, they should be empathy driven towards their immediate family, especially parents who need love and checking up on …

1. It is in treating it as some sort of obligation... something owed you... that it can be seen as bullying or manipulation. If your children or relative show up of their own volition, that is fine. However, no adult has right to demand he/she be cared for simply because. 🤔

2. False equivocation! Those two things do not compare in any way or form. 🤔

3. Wrong! Should are under no obligation either by law or by virtue of being born to take care of any adult. 🤔

amoco:
➜If there is a contract parents signed to take care of their children at their vulnerable periods, then that contract extends to children (who have the wherewithal) to cater for their aged parents at their vulnerable period.
➜If it's a societal construct, then it applies to all.
➜It is not manipulative for a parent to suffer and invest in their children and then ask the children to support them when they are aged. It is not at all.

it does not. 🤔

2. it does not. 🤔

3. it is manipulation to impose yourself on someone who never had a say in it all from the beginning. 🤔

amoco:
➜Bully... manipulate... entitled....all three words are wrong to be applied to those who supported one when one needed help.
➜It's a dangerous trend that could turn the tables and make some adults re-think support for youngsters. Many young people already feel some adults are not providing them the required help or support or platform to succeed. It could be worse if most people think helping their aged parents or relatives are a big unwarranted burden.

That is the manipulation we are talking about right there... this notion that because they chose to birth and feed you, you therefore owe them. 🤔🤔

2. Adults who choose to have children are legally responsible for the support and wellbeing of their children. Young people are right to expect support and care from their caregivers. 🤔🤔

ufotunang:
..it's their Islamic law that entitles them to.marry up to 4 wives..they have to change their law.... and stop polygamy and marrying of many wives which leads to giving birth to.many children

This year, pick up and read the book, The Life of Mohammed by Ibn Ishaq. (You can download a copy from the link below.) Do not stop until you have adequately digested the entire content of that book. Afterwards, come back and tell us if and how of changing Islamic law. 🤔

https://archive.org/details/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume

Oceanjagaban:
??

What was life like before the British showed up on the scene? Remember, much of Nothern Nigeria had already been conquered by Islam for a period of probably many hundred years at this point in time. 😒

Oceanjagaban:
➜I blame That jonsing modafucka called Lord Luggard for joining the North and the south.

Nonsense! 😒😒

Lovelink1991:
➜But not appreciated why?

Appreciation na by contract abi wetin? 😒

WatchYourSix:
➜I get the reality… im just saying old pple shouldnt be abandoned by their folks…. They are old, need help, need love, not necessarily money…… employees in care homes wont love your aged mum or dad….

Reality has always been that a good portion of them will be abandoned. Gone is the age where they could bully or manipulate their way into being maintained by family members as entitled beings in their old age. Every adult out there ought to be responsible for his/her own life and welfare. Age, should not be an excuse. 😒

opera1:
This is the main source of insecurity in the North

Wrong! Islam via Islamic preached terrorism is the main source of insecurity in the North. Poverty, comes in second! 😒

ogododo:
https://punchng.com/n60k-salary-four-wives-17-kids-wikes-aide-says-irresponsible-parenting-fueling-northern-insecurity/

If only the problem were this simple. 😒

WatchYourSix:
➜Shey na another person pikin go come love and care for you at old age?? I know there are no guarantees in life… but if children are are alive, they should be empathy driven towards their own immediate flesh and blood…… yall just like sounding politically correct….

You say all this while conveniently ignoring the reality of many out there who had so many children, yet left alone in their old age, abi? 😒😒

Lovelink1991:
An old woman who didn't marry because of her siblings and family painfully explain how she sacrifice her youthful age to take care of siblings and family and they abandoned her

Her sacrifice is noted. 😒😒

TechCapon:
wow am not aware of that. I only knw catholics call on Mary a lot

The Catholic Empire officially recognizes the Islamic Allah as the same deity of Catholicism. So, technically, it is the Mary/Mariam of Islam that Catholics also worship, not the Mary, mother of Jesus Christ of Israel, described in the Bible. 😒

bitbillionaire:
✓ Stop fooling yourself Mr. man. There is good and bad in every aspect of life, including every religion.
Orisa worship and ritual killing are not the same thing. Just as we have white magic or white witchcraft for doing good; we also have black magic or black witchcraft for doing evil.
In traditional religious practices there are those who are oriented towards the light or the good and those who are oriented towards the dark side (the evil). Don't mix things up.

What is the essence of this what amounts to rambling? What is it for? 🥱🥱

solmat:
That was why you founded the confra that have been raining havoc on youth as a sign of you demonic stance. You will soon meet your Waterloo.

You cannot imagine how many attempts have been made by folks to whitewash the nonsense the man helped create in that country, today. 🥱🥱

Negroid001:
✓ Who is delusional? The one that believes his religion which was influenced by geography is the true one amongst thousands or the one who can think critically for himself and places organized indoctrination called religion where it should be placed.

1. First of all, delusions are not all bad. Yes, they are all founded on lies, but some delusions can be necessary evils. 🥱🥱

Second, most people whether religious or not, operate under one form of delusion or another. We are not all brave when it comes to fixing reality head on, so we latch onto delusions here and there to keep us steady hopefully until we became more courageous. Third, it does not really matter the geography of the particular delusion. What instead matters is how beneficial that delusion is to you and the wider society in which you find yourself in. 🥱🥱

I hate religion. It is built on lies and deceit, I have seen and read the terrible things religion can make men do to even their own flesh and blood. 🥱🥱

But I have also read and seen how equally barbaric and depraved the human mind can become without religion. Worse, what I understand now that uncontrolled expression of that barbarism/depravity can wreck unthinkable havoc to the fabric of society. And you know what? And I have had to come to the conclusion that if I had to choose , I would choose religion over unchecked depravity. 🥱🥱

tammyf:
✓ Let me paint a scenario
lets assume i earn like 350k monthly
... I an my fiancee (who just graduated as a nurse ) planned i save up to 5million so she can open a food mart . selling foodstuffs both in wholesale and retail to assist the house .note her parents trained her through nursing school before i met her .
So fast forward to today i hv successfully gotten the 5million ... so i was of d opijion that with this food mart dont bother me again with food in d house and ur upkeep and maybe chikdren clothing's (though i can be doing dat once un a while) my sole aim now is rent ,school fees ,and projects (new buildings,,etc)
✓ pls am i wrong or asking for too much.. cos she is like the business im opening is for her not for the upkeep of d family .pls am i missing something or too greedy .i need your mature advice please 🙏

1. Allow me to paint you another scenario. Consider your fiance whom you wish to have start and run a food business with N5 million, has never run a successful business before all of this. What happens if and when it turns out that she does not have the business skills necessary to run and sustain a successful business? What happens if the business fails right before it has even started? Do you plan to blame her or something then? 🥱🥱

2. Absolutely, you are asking for too much. She graduated from nursing school, not business school. Why not let her first get a job in the area in which she is trained and allow her time to fully establish herself and her career before you begin thinking of kids and how much she should be responsible for? Better still, if business is the only available route, why not encourage her to try business school or at least get her to read lots of business books to familiarize herself with the basics, maybe while she sells small goods from the house until she becomes more comfortable with going all in at 5 million? 🥱🥱

Mattswaggz:
✓ Which of the "holy books" there are many with contradicting claims. .

This needs to be highlighted. I remember a couple of years ago, when there was a push to suggest that all religions believe essentially the same thing. Nothing could be more far from the truth. Even within the same religion, you are bound to knf many diametrically opposed beliefs. 🥱🥱

LegitGirl:
✓ I also thought it was rude to simply go into the kitchen to drop them when there were no other dirty plates.
This caused quite an argument between her & her husband. Any thoughts, good people?

Chores have never been gender specific. Any human can do chores anytime they wish to. The problem is most people would rather look for excuse for why others should be expected to handle their responsibilities to them. And this is where the idea that chores have a gender comes from. 🥱🥱

The family member was being rude and knew it. 🥱🥱

Your friend should let her husband know that he gets to wash plates for his family members come over. I have seen that work out with some families. 🥱🥱

Starhearts:
✓ Go back nd read very well
It seems u have problem with ur comprehension..
Not by typing d epistle wey u type soo?

Look who's rambling!🥱🥱

Ayatullah:
Wọle ọmọ Ṣoyinka, at the age of 91, you need no one to tell you that you will soon depart planet earth for the great beyond for an eternal life of Bliss or Damnation.

I think that man is better than you in this. He at least embraces the gods of Nigeria, while you, a Nigerian, continue to brandish the gods of your Islamic/Arabic colonial masters over the head of your people, 1400 years on. 🥱🥱

illicit:
✓ Was it a book that differentiated Abraham from the Canaanites?

Did you not have to read a book to learn about Abraham and Canaanites? What do you intend to gain from all of these ramblings? 🤔🤔

illicit:
✓ You seem to be alienated to what pastors and Alfas do You don't know much about it, no be everything be book
Which book did Adam read, Abraham the father of Faith and Abrahamic religions, Moses, Joshua.
Which book did Cain read before killing his brother
Noah etc. You will do what you will do no matter what any book says

You do realize that you are merely rambling at his point?🤔🤔

I made it more than clear that so long as anyone can claim what they do is orisa worship, your ramblings mean absolutely nothing given there are no universal laws or principles to help us differentiate orisa worshipers from the so-called frauds. This is simple! 🥱🥱

Negroid001:
You can't be self aware and believe in a made up entity.

I disagree! Some of the most self aware individuals out there are those who say they are grounded by their belief in either one god or idea or the other. People who have no such grounding are usually many of those who are least cannons. 🤔🤔

Flangelo12:
✓ They were dragged into the war.

Europe was dragged into the war by Hitler who invaded her countries? 🤔🤔🤔

anonymous1759:
✓ You're too ignorant. " in God we trust " is American slogan . Extremist like you hate the fact that you can't deny America has killed people . Leave America aside the roman Catholic Church under the crusaders has killed more than our African tradition.

That God happens to be the Constitution of the United States of America. 🥱🥱

Look, it is OK to be ignorant; just try to avoid me abeg! 🥱🥱

illicit:
✓ Before books were, there was religion.
✓ Do you read from a book how to walk but you are walking, why don't u walk upside down.
✓ Sometimes u just have to keep quiet 🥱

1. Yes! Back then (and even now if seems) people who wish to know if any religion without a book would need to engage the help of one who practices said religion. A money ritualist orisa worshipers is such a person too. 🥱🥱

2. Orisa has nothing to do with how I walk or talk. It is an ideology wholly external to me. 🥱🥱.

2. I should keep quiet about the attrocities that aww associated with orisa worship even in Nigeria??You would like that very much, wouldn't you? Nonsense! 😩😩