₦airaland Forum

illicit:
✓ U keep regurgitating... Who wrote those books Humans
God's don't write bro

It doesn't matter who wrote the books. What matters is that such books serve as codified standard by which the religion or ideology is to be judged. 🥱🥱

Basically, without a book or codified standard available, orisa religion is assumed a free-for-all and the human traffickers/ritualists are part and parcel of that tradition as they claim to be. 🥱🥱

illicit:
It is not the Orisa that does money ritual It is the Human
Every religion has adherents and followers that do ritual their own way
✓ What the pastors preach now is prosperity gospel, is that what the bible prescribed? Alfas do Aajo The Babalawo that does money ritual for people is just like them Astray

1. 1. Nonsense religious retort! 🥱🥱

2. Tis one is simple now..😩😩

We don't have an orisa book/standard to consult as far as to what orisa allows or doee not. We only have what the numerous orisa practitioners say and do to judge; their actions they attribute to commands from their orisa as far as money ritual is concerned. We have no option to take them at their word.😩😩

anonymous1759:
✓ Come to think of it, America a Christian country has killed over 26 million people that's a Christian country right what about Islam see the radicals we've today.
How many people has our African traditional killed that's evil and fetish.

First of all, America is a secular state.🥱🥱
Second, suggesting that something does not exist or cannot be simply because you have not been keeping tabs or records does not make your statement of fact. It just revelas your general level of ignorance. 🥱🥱

GloriousGbola:
✓ Shocking that your religious bias let you swallow hook line and sinker the propaganda spread by the military government of the time.
Wole soyinka started campus fraternities which you who are in the US should be familiar with.
What you are doing is the typical Christian method of preaching, by demonizing other religions

Sorry to disappoint you but I am not a Christian.🥱🥱

Fraternities as operated in Nigeria are no different from cults. I would know since I attended University right there in Nigeria. I had friends who died(some othere maimed) while carrying out criminal activities related to their fraternities in Nigeria. 🥱🥱

pak:
✓ Let's not even start talking about how most ancient towns were involved in wars of supremacies amongst each other and their gods.
Infact it is documented that both ancient Hausa and Yoruba traditional societies were often weakened because they were in consistent warfare with one another. That they are not so belligerent today might be more down to the fact that they no longer have much means to unleash violence.
Nobody starts violence when it is almost certain it will lead to them being wiped out.
✓ Perhaps what he should have said which I agree with is that the natural religions are usually more tolerant of the beliefs of others and do not usually claim exclusivity. And are more willing to listen, accept and imbibe ideas that are more superior unlike the main religions which are relatively fixed and stubborn against improvement

1. I think the ending of the open slave trade by the west has something to do with the end of the open violence. 🥱🥱 Unfortunately, in resent years, we have, instead, seen a rise in human kidnapping and trafficking .The slave trade is not dead yet . 😩😩

2. I don't believe that at all. Iif they has the numbers, I believe they would be just as violent as the Islamics up North against people of other religions. That and the fact that they have been generally been tamed by the Law. 🥱🥱

Afrojuju2017:
✓ There.is nothing in Orisa worship that has anything to do with money or ritual murder, It's infact a corruption brought upon us by foreign semitic religions

There is nothing yet every single day we read of orisa today, we hear of nothing but mostly money ritual. Are Orisa worshipers also bound by Taqiyah laws same as the Islamics? 😩😩😩

CorperKola:
✓ All relogions are associated with frenzied violence
How else will people commit unimaginable atrocities if you dont invoke the name of God
✓ When the pope spoke recently about God not accepting the prayers of people with blood on their hands I just laughed
✓ Is it the God of the old testament he is talking about He is one of the most violent gods in history, the one that commanded israel to go kill their neighbours and take over their lands several times.
✓ Isreal is still following his lead today

1. Hitler did not invoke or associate the name of any god with his atrocious acts; neither did Stalin, Mao, or King Leonard II of Belgium. All you need is a human mind and an ideology to cook up such frenzied violence. A god figure is optional.🥱🥱🥱

2. I laughed too knowing that the Pope was simply being delusional if he thought the world still believes his powers come from some gods and not the company calls the Catholic church. 🥱🥱

3. Here, your ignorance screams even louder than your previous statements. 🤐😩🤐

4. How many of its neighboring states has Israel taken over today? Are you sure you are OK at all? 😩😩

There was nothing violent about the God of the Old testament. It is irritating seeing people argue what they refuse to educate themselves on. The Old Testament is the constitutional Law of the nation state of Israel constituted primarily of the people of Israel. Like every other nation that existed at the time, it has an army, laws which detailed the state's relations with neighboring countries and also conducts during war campaigns. 🥱🥱

If you would put aside your prejudice for a moment -- we are talking here of a nation that ceased or ended 2000 years ago -- to realize that you canopy judge such a nation by laws and idea that exist today, you would actually begin to see that the nation of Israel had one of, of hot the best LAws of any of the nations that existed around the same time that it did. 🥱🥱

Estello:
➜Nobel Laureate, Wole Soyinka, has stated that he does not believe in the God of either Christianity or Islam, describing himself instead as an atheist with strong spiritual awareness.
He made the remark during an interview with Larry Madowo on CNN, where he spoke about his personal beliefs and religious background.
Soyinka explained that he finds traditional Orisa worship more appealing than Christianity and Islam, citing its artistic, creative, and mysterious qualities. According to him, the traditional belief system is also more open and less associated with violence compared to the other two religions.
➜The renowned playwright noted that he was raised with exposure to both Christianity and indigenous Orisa practices, but found himself more drawn to the latter due to its depth and cultural richness.
He added that the inclusive nature of Orisa worship allowed foreign religions to gain influence over it, sometimes altering its original essence.
Speaking further, Soyinka said that while he does not subscribe to the Christian or Islamic concept of God, he believes every human possesses a spiritual core and considers himself highly sensitive to spiritual experiences.

Why are even the most learned among Nigerians some of the most ignorant? I can't seem to wrap my head around this. 😒😒😒

Not trying to hold brief for any religion but want to understand exactly how did this man come away concluding that the traditional orisa worship we have in Yoruba land is less associated with violence? is he suggesting we turn a blind eye to the violence of money rituals or ritual murders for example? 😒😒

I happen to have read somewhere that he is or was a cultist and we all know it is associated with traditional worship ideas. Are cults equally less violent? 😒😒''

2. He is free to believe in whatever he chooses; but he does not have freedom to make up his own facts, abeg. To this day, we don't know whether much of the kidnapping happening across Nigeria is connected to orisa worship or not but the pattern seems to follow in many cases.😒

AntiChristian:
✓ Just admit you are the liar!

I see you are still at these games of yours. 🥱🥱

AntiChristian:
➜List 5 of the latest lies among the claims I made here?

Pick any 5 of your posts that contain Biblical or Quranic references or even basic religious notions of yours and you are close to having the 5 answers you seek. 😒😒

mastermaestro:
Another gullible pope who thinks he can appeal to the nonexistent humanity of those extremists. You think you can win Islamists by befriending them. I laugh at your nativity. Those bloodsuckers will end you at once if they had the opportunity.

He isn't trying to appeal to their humanity. He is trying to ensure the Catholic Empire remains on the good side of Islam as it continues to submit as good Dimmis would. All this while turning a convenient blind eye to the actual suffering of Catholics at the hands of Islamic terrorists. The Catholic Empire has been at this for over 800 years, and it has no plans to change its mode of operation. 🥱🥱🥱

Orinechi:
➜You need to assess and evaluate critically stories you view or read on your phone. You don't have to swallow everything completely. So you mean that every information you get exposed to using Google is the fact? Nobody said America does not have a right to fight for economic interest but they should not hide under the cover of fighting terrorism to bully other countries who may decide not to trade with them. The moment any country begins to engage in economic romance with Russia and China, western superpower will amplify any social problem facing the country just to get at whoever is at the helm of affairs or tag the leader terrorism sponsor to dissuade such romance.

I suggest you invest much of this time you waste in reading up on treaties, conventions, and operational rules for state conduct, including during armed conflict. This is so you don't keep spitting nonsense when debating these things. 😒

Key resources include the United Nations Audiovisual Library of International Law, ICRC International Humanitarian Law databases, and the San Remo ROE Handbook

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Afolue:
➜I can see how well you are trying to understand You try to speak like one who is learned but very much less informed of religious lineage. Numbering your write ups using mine as a reference is an outright clear indication of little understanding from all I have spoken about. For trying to understand it at least, I score you 2/10. 2 marks each!

After all is said and done, you are completely unable to respond to any of the points made, highlighting the separation between the Bible and Islam as a whole? 😒

Orinechi:
➜That is why media literacy is necessary for you. The report came from Nigerian army. No media house presented an independent investigation into the bombing. So you expected the Nigerian army to tell you that they were not aware of the bombing? If you are literate media wise, your should have asked for the pictures of those kill in the bombing not just depending on the government source alone.
➜ Show me where the IRGC confirmed killing of 40 thousand protests. The protesters had the gut to protest for regime change when the leaders of the regime were still active and disappear now the coast is clear to effect the change they have been longing for.
➜ America is not fighting for terrorism to wane rather they are fighting to advance their economic interest and that is why Pope has been vocal against them in that war.

1. I see! Media literacy, to you, means rejecting substantiated facts while propagating a nonsensical replacement? I get it... I get it! 😒😒

2. I should show you what a quick Google search (if at all you really care) would have long revealed to you? Nonsense! 😒😒

3. Does America not have a right, as a nation, to fight for economic interest or something? What international Law says the U.S. cannot do that? Are you high? 😒😒

Orinechi:
➜Pope has always called for peace in the world. The last time I checked, your saviour Trump has not taken a single meaningful action to protect the christians who are being persecuted. The bombing he claimed was carried out in conjunction with Nigerian army didn't kill any terrorist.
➜Today their operational strength is increasing. Where on The 40 thousand foreign sponsored protester you claimed was killed by IRGC,
➜ if it is true, why have they not taken over the government now that the regime has be downgraded?
➜Embrace media literacy and free yourself from junk reports you expose yourself to through western controlled media

I am not here to argue on behalf of Trump, as I don't know him from a can of paint, but I am certain I read from Nigerian sources that the bombing was effective in killing many terrorists and clearing out most of the terrorists out of the area in question, sending them running southwards from the location. Are you insinuating that your government's own reports are now lies? 😒😒

2. Interesting! The killing of over 40,000 Iranians, which the IRGC has since confirmed, was justified because they were supposedly foreign-sponsored protestors? 😒

3. You expect unarmed civilians to take over the government from the many armed militia groups(most of them from foreign groups) employed by their government that have made it clear that they would be shot on sight? WOW... 😒😒

4. You are assuming that what you have is this media literacy, right? 😒😒

Afolue:
➜How about the violent side of Israel.? Almighty God (He) spoke through Prophet Moses
➜ And he spoke through Prophet Mohammed directly
➜ But Christ spoke his own word, but of God! Notice the difference!
➜ Including Israel are both violent Since the Old Testament, it has been violence since then coming…. Even thousands of years before Islam existed

. This comment of yours comes from a place of ignorance, which is typical of people with a religious background or leaning. 😒😒

The Law of Moses is the constitutional Law of the nation of Israel that existed in the Land of Canaan, populated mainly by the bloodline of Jacob. That nation, same as nations that exist today, had laws to govern the interactions of the people and the country as a whole with other nations, including the administration of wars. There was nothing violent about the nation's handling of wars, as the Constitution gave the power to address situations.

2. Wrong! What you describe is clearly not fact, given that the YHWH of Israel made it clear in His Law of Moses that His interactions would be strictly through His people, Israel. Whoever spoke to Mohammed was not the YHWH of Israel. Most likely, his revelations came to him from the deities of Arabia instead. 😒😒

It is highly disingenuous to judge a nation that existed and went into hiatus about 2000 years ago by laws and ideas that humans have today. 😒

3. The Law that was transmitted through Moses and that was transmitted by way of Jesus Christ of Israel were both directed at the people of Israel, both of them Laws meant for the establishment of nations(borders defined). There are more similarities than differences in this case. 😒😒

4. I suggest you abandon ignorance, pick up a book and read for your own mind's sake instead. 😒😒

TechCapon:
so whats the difference?

Well, one of the major differences is that Catholicism believes it serves the same Allah as Islam.😒

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church (paragraph 841) and the Vatican II document Lumen Gentium, Muslims, along with Christians, adore the one, merciful God, the creator and judge of humanity, and profess to hold the faith of Abraham.

The religion of Christianity does not submit to the same claim. 😒

dappydozzy:
➜I am a Christian, all these your biblical verses are non relevant here. Misinterpretation of the scriptures at times, lead us to where we desire not. Do you want to claim your Biblical knowledge or interpretation of the scriptures is deeper than the pope. When you see some overzealous christians, most of them are hypocrites, i guess you are not .

Your pope abandoned the Bible and all it says many, many, many hundreds of years ago. Yes, they found it too inconvenient and today cling wholly to their doctrines and none of the Bible. Why did they do that? They realized that they cannot have any part in the Bible. But that power they have over the gullible, they will not, in a million years, give up on. 😒😒😒

The same is observed in Islam. Those Islamic Scholars at the top also know that Islam is nothing more than a political system that comes with a religious angle by which they can control their army of gullible followers. They will never tell the Islamics the truth about this either because religion is, after all, a tool by which to keep the gullible manipulated and in check. 😒😒

geoworldedu:
➜You trying to sound smart eventually ended up sounding dafter than the religious ones this sacred text is meant for. Now relax and learn. Out of hundreds of things causing disunity in the world, we have religion as one of them. If religion is uprooted from the world, division along religious lines will be wiped out. Now let me help you further. Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Hezbollah, noise making about Jesus is coming on the streets, inter-denominational banters and fights, etc will be wiped out and more peace will be established on earth.
So junkie, next time before you post something, think a little bit. Don't just rush to comment and then later find out how stewpd you sound.

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bluebay:
Something most people doesn't know , they all worship same God

Stop lying to yourself! 😒😒😒

12345baba:
where in the pictures did u see the pope bow, check ur history catholic and moslem share alot in common. Let me stop here use ur Google and enlighten urself

Like? I mean, is that why Islamic terrorists are also going after catholics in Northern Nigeria? 😒😒

cuttestprince:
Who is doing terrorism between Iran and USA Maybe you people thinking with your ass

Is it Israel and the US doing terrorism against Nigerians in Nigeria too? 😒😒

Orinechi:
➜Just take a look at what a supposed Christian wrote. Because Imams remain silent in the face of injustice, the pope should do same. I pity any christian who has your line of thought. With this, even traditional religion or the ecclesia society will reject you.

Where was your pope's voice when Christians in Iran were being slaughtered by the IRGC? Where is the Pope's voice on the Nigerian killings that have become a regular occurrence? Where was the Pope's voice when the IRGC massacred over 40,000 Iranian protestors back some weeks ago? Why does it seem your Pope only has a voice when the U.S. or Israel is involved? 😒😒

femi4:
When in Rome, you behave like Romans. He will do the same in celestial church of christ....kini big deal

Storyland! 😒😒

femi4:
It's a non religious visit. Nothing serious

None religious and im remove im shoe? 😒😒

RealityKings1:
➜I know you are not blind

I see you did not bother reading the passage at all. Let me repeat. That passage instead says to individuals ... "But I tell you, don’t be angry with anyone. If you are angry with others, you will be judged. And if you insult someone, you will be judged by the high court. And if you call someone a fool, you will be in danger of the fire of hell." 😒😒

Where do you get from that that during wars, women and children can not be killed? 😒

Again, let's stop with the little lies and attempts at associating our private delusions with the content of that book. It screams low IQ. 😒😒

geoworldedu:
➜Peace 8: 21
21. All gods must be removed from the minds of humans. That is the first step to world peace.
22. Religion brings division and enmity. All gods like Jehovah, Allah, Moloch and others who are being worshipped on earth are only there to cause division along religious lines and set back world development.
23. Therefore let all gods be dumped and let science thinking take over.

Are you insinuating that all those who don't have a religion are somehow united and peace-loving? Come on naw... You can't be this daft at this point! 😒😒😒

Iamzik:
➜How many times have the rector visited at Peter's basilica? ABI Imam dey forbid to enter church?

Imams dey enter church during church service to go do their prayers to their allah, naw, something the pope would not dare to do in that mosque. 😒😒😒

RealityKings1:
➜Matthew 5:21-26

That passage instead says to individuals ... "But I tell you, don’t be angry with anyone. If you are angry with others, you will be judged. And if you insult someone, you will be judged by the high court. And if you call someone a fool, you will be in danger of the fire of hell." 😒😒

Where do you get from that that during wars, women and children can not be killed? 😒

Again, let's stop with the little lies and attempts at associating our private delusions with the content of that book. It screams low IQ. 😒😒

RealityKings1:
"You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13)
The deliberate killing of children is especially targeted as a grave sin (Jeremiah 19:4-5).

You claimed the Gospels, but here you are citing the Old Law of Moses, the constitutional Law of a nation that literally sanctioned the killing of women and children during war campaigns?😒😒

Can we please stop lying altogether! 😒

Galactics:
That man is an Islamic terrorist masquerading as a Christian.

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Cadis234:
Not all Muslims refer to Christians as infidel, and not Muslims are jihadist. Majority of Muslims don't in killing.

Stop lying! Mohammed was considered the best of them, and all of his followers are required to see Christians and Jews as infidels. All of his followers are literally commanded to engage in Jihad if they are to become like him and gain their Islamic Jannah.😒😒