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Hellisreal70:
➜Well, let's rest the topic for now so that we don't stretch it too much. But you too like to argue o. You sha no wan gree for anybody

How can I agree with what are clearly delusional lies?

GiftofGod77:
➜It is Spiritual because when I worship or meditate on the Word I get a lot of inspiration and understanding. I get a lot of revelations like I said even things that are yet to occur.
➜Not from some mystical phoenix bird in some realm that is controlled by darkness....

Is that like saying when a Juju worshipper also worships or mediates on his own ideas, gets inspiration and understanding, he is equally on a spiritual scape as well?

2. How in the world is your spiritual claim any different from that of those who believe in mystical phoenix birds abeg? No be the same thing you dey claim they too dey claim? What proof do you have that your spiritual is different from their spiritual bullsheet?

GiftofGod77:
➜No problem if you don't trust me at all. In fact we should trust only God. I am also interested in facts too...I am not a religious zealot or bigot but one who enjoys a personal relationship with God.
➜Then about the vagina it was made by the Almighty and He has plans for how it should be utilized, hahahaha kai its funny, but at the same time serious . But seriously it is also covered by Divine instruction.
➜Yes respect is mutual because we are all children of God. There is no way if not it will cause problems and God will not be happy when we take advantage of others even our womenfolk. It is mutual. Respect is given between men for example in an organizaiton men can respect men in higher authority, it is the same respect God expects when relationship comes up in terms of leadership so that there will be unity and cohesion for Teamwork under His guidance and enablement....

1. There is what you say and there are the facts on the ground that counter your claims. 😏

2. So, this almighty made the teeth, the head, the anus, the legs, the hands, the d--ck, but made plans specifically for how the vagina alone should be utilized? Clearly, he is a sex god of some sort whose particular focus seems to be on the vagina which he installed on the female population, right?

3. Respect isn't mutual though. I respect others even if they do not respect me. It is a choice and is not always guaranteed to be mutual. But here you seem to assert that you can only respect a woman if and only if she respects you too. Clearly, this is completely removed from the claims you made earlier that a woman is seen as your equal and you respect her equally and all of that yap earlier!

GiftofGod77:
➜Hmnn this is why I like Scriptures. Proven false by human reckoning or theological reasoning? ➜Even the Church Fathers acknowledged this work of Salvation before Martin Luther also made this discovery as to the liberty God gave us.
➜We need not go far. Just like I said that proviso "whoever" qualifies the sinner who was not originally from Israel. The prostitute, the robber, the murderer, the worst of sinners like me can now come boldly to the Throne of Mercy and confess and believe in Christ for their Salvation and in that instant they get saved and their lives never remains the same. A physical change occurs. They get Grace to stop habits, attitudes and characters they once could not control or stop. They become humble and teachable and not arrogant like before.
➜Yes it is possible to change and self develop and become better. But I have a deep spiritual experience when I came closer to God in my life. It became so much at times He would show me what would happen before it occurs. I have shared it with many. Apart from that the deep insight into His mind and wisdom and how I now live in obeisance is another testament in my humble life.

1. Proven false by that which is written in plaintext in Scripture.

2. Your church fathers were frauds — the very dogs aka non-Israelites whom Jesus Christ of Israel warned His followers could not handle that which is Holy. Their words are nothing but lies!

3. Again, I ask you, did Jesus Christ of Israel & YHWH — God of Israel — both lie?😏

4. Your change is spiritual experience. What does that mean?

GiftofGod77:
➜hahahah you are funny...well maybe I have not read the other comments but trust me I am not under any delusion and if any this delusion is what God wants for all men and women. There is no difference between us except in roles. We are both living souls and spirits. We only have roles we need to play. See child bearing, home keeping, support and many other roles that are well suited for the woman.
➜Women are joint heirs to this new life and we should accord mutual respect to each other.

1. I do not trust you nor do I intend to do any such. I am instead interested in the facts but you keep offering up opinions and religious gobbledegook. Why?

Again. Christianity at its roots devalues the female. This thread for example is highly focused on the female vagina and its supposed importance to the Christian deity yet you are wanting me to believe what is right in front of us all is not? 🙄

2. You keep insisting on mutual respect and I am caused to wonder if respect will exist if it is not mutual.

GiftofGod77:
1. No problem at all with the "gobbledegook" comment. It's quite okay with me as long as what I happen to know is correct. And I can understand people different ways to how to express themselves. No problem at all.
2. He will not accept or reject me against His will. He openly gave me the invitation. When He said "whoever" He was actually referring to a wretched sinner like me and like I said all those who will come to Him for Salvation. He never makes any mistake.
3. I no longer do the things I use to do. I am changed person. And its very obvious. In fact I know for a fact that I would have died by now due to the sinful life I was living but Grace saved me and still keeps me. It takes Grace to grasp this.

1. You cannot know what is correct when what you know is proven false.

2. So, Jesus Christ of Israel & YHWH — God of Israel — both lied?

3. I am also a changed person as I no longer do a lot of the things I used to do but most of the changes are a result of life events, and others a pursuit of discipline. I too would have probably died by now if I had continued the way I used to and this to no real fault of my own. So, what is the difference between your changes and my changes?

Again, I need you to properly provide proof of this grace thing you continue to claim.

GiftofGod77:
➜I have never come across this wrong notion that a woman is not my equal no. Instead what I was taught and still believe is that we are joint heirs to the Salvation we have been born afresh in Christ Jesus. I respect my wife of 22 years as well as she respects me. I have and will never underestimate or disrespect her no matter what because I know we were both made by God and the same Salvation, life and eternity is for both of us. At the same time we are both well versed in the ways of the Lord as to our roles so that the family unit that was made by God can is standing firm against the test of time and bringing about God's will on the earth one of which is to bring up Godly children in the society. Maybe some other people do so, I will not rule it out because of wrong interpretation but for us no.

This very thread we are on serves as proof of this yet you deny this? WOW... the delusion is indeed strong with you. 🙄🙄

writetopoker601:
➜Even the maggots self na food. Just microwave everything, case close

Na serious protein for real!

GiftofGod77:
➜No boss. No woman is ever looked down at where there are true Christians...as to our salvation it is clearly spelt out in the same scriptures but I can understand that to some it is not properly perceived. I also need to say that even as we still fall constantly there is a great difference in our lives as Christians. we get better every day.

Please stop telling these obvious lies! 🙄🙄🙄

Even the belief that a woman is not her husband's equal in your Christian marriage amounts to your religion looking down on women. So why continue to lie abeg! What do you gain from them? 🙄🙄🙄

Zubeezanga:
you won't understand

I won't understand how to ask for forgiveness from family members that I may have hurt?

GiftofGod77:
➜I am sorry if I seem to annoy you with the "gobbledegook" thing you keep making reference to. ➜But I can use myself as an example for what this Grace has done for me. I use to be a fool thinking that all the activities and works of faith were just vanity and a waste of time. To make matters worst I became friends with people who never took the Word of God seriously so I drifted into the world of people who think and reason using the logic of men. I mocked and made jest of Christians who came to even preach the good news to me. I thought I was enjoying myself until something happened to me that I will never forget in my life. It was a strange encounter that proved to me that not only is God alive but I was indeed a fool and it was time I gave my life to Christ Jesus. Since that time I tearfully went to accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and personal Savior and after that I enrolled for Discipleship. I drew closer and got to understand how God thinks and His principles to everything. I stopped doing the foolish things I use to do thinking I was wise and was enjoying myself including mocking God. I am now a living witness and true example of this grace. I am no longer arrogant, boastful or callous but now a different far more gentle and responsible person with many responsibilities that will never be given to anyone who does not have the qualities Jesus Christ showed.
➜This is just a little but there are much more I have gained and still continue to gain from this Grace. Now I take center stage In the service of the Lord Jesus.

1. By religious gobbledegook, I instead mean religious nonsense that is based on delusions and not facts.

2. Even though Jesus Christ of Israel definitively states that His Father, YHWH — God of Israel — sent Him only to the Lost Sheep of Israel, you want me to believe that rather Jesus Christ of Israel and YHWH —God of Israel — lied and you, a non-Israelite can accept Him against His own will?

3. What aspect of this story of yours equates to this grace thing that you said applies to you if only you choose not to bow to temptation and the lot? I didn't get how grace had anything to do with what you said.

Zubeezanga:
➜ i just need to talk to someone

About asking for forgiveness for the hurt you caused to members of your family?

Zubeezanga:
➜Hello goodevening all, pls is there an extent of stupidity that can't be forgiven? Like is there something you do like disappointing people so bad your family, the only extended family that helped you like you just bleeped up so bad and you are scared of even calling to apologise like you where given a chance and you messed it up, now it's just you how do you start, will there be forgiveness or just I don't even know.

Why are you asking us this?

It is up to the family to decide whether they will forgive or not forgive. Strangers cannot influence their choice and right .

GiftofGod77:
➜With all due respect am not lying. Enshrined in the Scriptures is the fact that we are both co or joint heirs to the salvation that was got for us at such a priceless cost.
➜However, what you might miss interpret with Christianity with respect to womanhood is pertaining to roles.
➜And even at that many women became leaders and even attained the nadir or zenith of their professions. It is just a misinterpretation and not a plot to subjugate the woman. Her role is simply spelt out alongside the roles of men. I can understand that there are many men and women who are not spiritually matured to become like Christ but they exist by the grace of God. Lastly the key to greatness for men or women is to obey the instructions given by God.

That is an outright lie because what is instead enshrined is that only those who are of the bloodline of Jacob can benefit from the Mercy of David via Jesus Christ of Israel.

2. The claim made by Jesus Christ to His followers is presented in plain text so no interpretation is necessary.

3. They are only able to become "leaders" after those core tenets of the religion are bent to suit the particular situation. This partly explains why the religion now boasts of over 45,000 different doctrinal leanings aka denominations. And even at that, the fact that women are still looked down on remains intact, no matter how high they are allowed to rise.

GiftofGod77:
➜Again in line with what you said, the fact that since you were born you have not seen anyone who has benefitted from grace does not vitiate or mitigate the fact that many including me are products of God's grace as amply shown and manifested through Christ Jesus. 2. I am sorry if you feel I jumped a topic to another as I am human and can make mistakes. Please let me know what I skipped or did not answer you well based on my little knowledge or experience in life.
➜It's true there are many hypocrites in every association of people but it does not reduce the fact that there are faithful people because with God all things are possible including making men and women who genuinely fear and walk in His ways.
➜Lastly yes we fall constantly but rise because of the Grace provided in Christ. Also if not for this Grace, that seems useless to you, a wretched sinner and fool that I was would not be alive today and be responsible for so many things and people.
➜My God is the One who created the Heavens and the earth and all things. The Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. I never worship anyone and we don't as believer's in Christ.

1. Prove you have benefited from this grace thing as you claim.🙄

2. I didn't say one or two hypocrites but all hypocrites. Christianity is a religion of hypocrisies. What they say is NEVER what they do. There is a saying that action speaks louder than words and religion is it; Christianity is one of them. 🙄

3. If according to you, your fall is constant then what that means is that your rise is merely a delusion probably born of your constant fallen state. 🙄

4. Spare me the meaningless religious gobbledegook! 🙄

GiftofGod77:
➜Evidence speaks to the contrary that it is not chauvinistic at all.
➜It is why it has shaped and greatly impacted the course of all history and even eternity. Of course you are free to believe what you feel is right. It's a free world where anyone can believe whatever they want to while life still lasts...

Stop lying! 🙄

Chau·vin·is·tic

➜displaying excessive or prejudiced support for one's own cause or group, in particular showing male prejudice against women.
➜feeling or displaying aggressive or exaggerated patriotism.

Christianity relegates women to second-class status. This is part and parcel of the core doctrines of the religion.

Even Islam can also claim it shaped and greatly impacted the course of history but we equally know that impact has many negatives. 🙄 🙄 🙄

GiftofGod77:
➜Good day @... and I pray all is well with you. I respect your right and opinion as to what you have been exposed to and I will never insult or denigrate you or anyone at all because it is not in my character and it will never profit me. So I leave you on this topic to your own interpretations and perceptions as to the Faith God wrought in Christ and the Mystery of the Cross where my Lord and Saviour laid down His life for All those who come to Him. I pray and wish you well as me and my family will ever remain steadfast, rooted, unshakable and immovable always giving thanks for what God did through His Son Jesus Christ.

What I stated is not an opinion but a 2000-year-old fact. You and I met that fact and we will both leave this world but that fact will remain. Therefore, any claim that contradicts that fact is an outright lie.

Abbeytoy:
➜Feel free to be a hoe and no one will beat you for it, but don't discourage or try to recruit people into your wayward life.

I am not here to discourage or encourage anything in their decisions as far as what is their body and life after all. I am here to ensure we at all stick to the facts as far as our claims and do not mislead people with lies like you and many of the others who operate under your same delusion continue to. 🙄🙄

Whether a virgin or a hoe, the fact on the ground is that relationship failures, infidelity, and all other walls that life has to throw happen to them all equally.

GiftofGod77:
➜Its not true @ kobojunkie...come on now... you know it's not true. While we are religious but some of us are spiritual and religious. It's why we are in this for life and eternity. The Wisdom, philosophy and logic God gives even through His Son Jesus Christ can never be contested and like i said earlier it gives light, life and direction. Check it out ...

Nonsense! Stop spewing meaningless religious gobbledegook abeg!

Even Jesus Christ of Israel claims He does not know you nor does His Father, YHWH, God of Israel. They both said their only inheritance in the land of men is the descendants of Jacob — the blood descendants of the man that YHWH Himself gave the name Israel to. So, stop spewing trash abeg!

GiftofGod77:
➜Christianity is not chauvinistic at all. It seems like that because of wrong perception.
➜But believe me it's not if not I would not be engaged actively and stake my life and family in it. It shows us the True nature of where we come from, where we are and where we are going. It guides and shows us our true Source and Way we all need to follow. All other paths are not like this one.

The evidence speaks greatly for itself. Christianity is a chauvinistic religion much like Judaism and Islam.

2. I don't believe you!

GiftofGod77:
➜ Well its not useless at all because there are many who rely on it and it works perfectly well.
➜Why i mentioned that my neighbour's experience is because it highlight's the will and choice we have to make in life which we will be held accountable by the One who made us one day.
➜ It is a mind thing true but the mind has to make a choice based on the kind of information it has. Even the Buddhist's too fall despite their celibacy because it is a human weakness to want to fall into sexual sin.
➜ However there is enough power to overcome in the Grace provided by God. It has happened to me several years ago. I agree with you that the young man who would hurt himself to curtail his body was engaging in sadistic sadomachism albeit unknowingly but the Grace is still there. It works for those who believe in it and obey it.

It's not useless but it has not been of any use to Christians from their beginning. Since the day I was born, to this very day, I cannot point out a single Christian for whom this grace thing has worked. Absolutely no difference exists between those who claim to be Christians and those who worship other gods and idols. So, how can a thing that works perfectly well be at the same time nowhere to be found among those who claim it works for them?

2. We are talking of A but you already flew off to B? Why? 🙄🙄🙄

3. The mind does not need so much information to decide on self-discipline. And no, Buddhists do not fall as much as much as Christians do. The term hypocrisy is used more in connection with Christians than Buddhists, and there is real reason for this. 🙄🙄🙄

4. Again, with this useles grace thing that you Christians have yet to show to be a real thing. Christianity is wrought with people who fail to meet up to the standards preached by tyheir very own religion on a daily basis. Your pastors, popes, prophets, gods of men, etc. fall every single day yet you lot continue to claim that some thing you call grace is what keeps you from failing the very standard set for you all by your gods of men. If your gods of men themselves have not been helped by this grace thing, how will this grace thing help you lot? When

Hellisreal70:
➜If you are not a virgin does not negates the fact that virginity until marriage is the best health wise, religiously, also for marital bliss. Anyone that wants the alarm bell of .... to flare up should just mention 'female virginity until marriage '

See diversionary tactic abeg! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

NSK4U:
➜Trust me, God's ways are not like man's...... celebrating virginity is not a reason to attract God's blessings......God gives His blessings to whom He's pleased with

Which God? A god obsessed with the vagina of the female portion of his creation? 🙄🙄🙄

Come on! We all know the gods here are merely men and their perverse obsession with the female vagina. Let's start being honest. From the beginning of time, no God or deity has ever been seen striking or killing a woman for not being a virgin. Instead, it has been men, most of them equally obsessed with that hole, who have placed themselves as judges and executioners over women particularly those of them who do not submit their legs to them. That is what this religious/traditional obsession with a woman's hole is all about.

Jonathan:
➜ Or deh , asking senseless question. It's a simple question ho ponu. How will you like to walk your daughters down the aisle? As a virgin or as a whoré that has been passed around by multiple guys in the name of relationships and having experience. How is that difficult to understand or answer. Except for wasted ho loriburukus

No be monitor you go monitor her vagina to conclude in the end whether you walked her down the aisle as a virgin or not? What is senseless in asking you of that since your particular pride is in asserting yourself as a monitor over your daughter's vagina and its use or lack thereof?

Hellisreal70:
➜I don't support sexual immorality for both boys and girls. I support virginity until marriage.
What iam saying is that the result is physically glaring for the girls and also damaging to their private parts at the same time. But in case of the boys even a female prostitute can hardly detect

This talk about religion/tradition for you lot begins and ends with your perverse delusions regarding the female and her vagina, isn't it? 🙄🙄

EndBuhariNow:
na me tear your toto ?

That there is the beginning and end as far as your religion.🙄🙄🙄🙄

Abbeytoy:
✓ I got married as a Virgin to a virgin about 20 years ago and that was the standard I believe is normal.
✓ But let me ask you, are you hoe? Why do you feel attacked when I mention Virgin?

As far as I can remember, Virginity was not even a standard anymore even in the 1980s Nigeria. So, where in the world is this standard you quote of value? In your mind?

From where I sit, it does not matter whether a one married as a virgin or a hoe since infidelity and life's suffering happens to all of them the same. So, these petty preferences mean absolutely nothing at the end of the day. That is what life teaches us all. Of course, those of you who choose denial out of fear either dig yourselves deeper or you finally accept reality as it presents itself eventually.😁

GiftofGod77:
➜hahaha the Grace does not fail it's only us who refuse it and decide to fall for the temptations. ➜No man on their own can use self discipline.
➜ There is one of my neighbors who told us while we were chatting that anytime his konji rises he will carry candle or lighter and burn it! So I asked him if has he stopped sinning completely and become a saint. he could not answer me.
➜So we still need the grace always boss...

What you are saying is that so long as you can choose to fall for temptation then the grace is useless, doesn't that then mean that mentioning this grace thing altogether is of no meaning?

2. Millions of Buddhists use basic self-discipline to keep themselves from temptation of the same kind but you reject this because you need it to instead seem no man can use it?

3. This story of yours no enter at all. The man lacked self-discipline and resorted to what seemed more like a masochistic approach there. Buddhists and others with self-discipline do not need to go to such extreme measures since they understand that the problem comes from the mind and not the body/literal flesh.

4. Your grace thing cannot help you if you are not willing to choose temptation yet a majority of you cannot claim to have been helped by this grace — you all claim to be sinners aka those who fall often to temptation. So, what is the essence of this grace you claim again? 😂😂😂😂😂

irumole1975:
➜I saw a post where a man offed himself because an American mandated him to start paying $15,000 every month to his wife who want to leave him. And Nigerian men were crying about how this is evil. I mean I’m suprised to see Nigerians crying and complaining here about sainier clime. Same sainier clime with a perfect system. Same sainier clime where people don’t die because God isn’t capable of killing peopje three once they japa there. Same sainier clime where their women are better than Nigerian women and men should endeavour to marry them instead. Same clime where things are cheap and no one pays rent?

Why complaining? I think Nigerians are just ingrate. Dying in the sainier clime and losing all ur money is worth it. At least you didn’t lose it in Nigeria.

Turns out the amount was closer to $1900 per month and not $15,000.🙄

Bodydiialect57:
➜True. I was once working with a machine when it ran over my thumb giving me a deep cut and blood gushing out. A girl working close by exclaimed that the thumb can never be the same again. I answered her that she lied as she will see the thumb healed and restored. Two weeks down the thumb was restored as if nothing happened.
➜The way God wired our body, positioning every part to function so well even in cases of accidents and emergencies is truly an amazing miracle.

The opinion of a fellow machinist became the basis for your belief?

2. Rewired your body, how? So, you did not get a doctor or anyone to tend to the wound, and you did nothing to the supposed deep cut but it repaired itself in two weeks?

GboyegaD:
➜Now, it is clear why he lost his license and the likely reason he took his life.

He lost his license because he was going through a divorce? Wetin concern AMA and state board with marriage abeg?

hosemujica:
➜Not at all really. But from a personal perspective, I will not marry into this family after going through her father’s facebook page . Not happening. But I guess it’s his decision and it ended well for him.

Never heard of the saying, "Different strokes for different folks?" 🙄

The family did not pull the trigger to off him; this man did it to himself according to the story. Let's not take this where it should not even go.😩