₦airaland Forum

Treasure17:
Purity is a virtue.

Purity my arse! what virtue has your African ideas of purity benefitted you all? Are you folks OK at all?

gawu1:
Lots like me never knew existence of that beach until when she started her vomit on my dear country, her origin.
If she had not used Nigerian name to manipulate her way into her current position.
As she tried to pull down Nigeria to get to her position, it's incumbent on every Nigerian to pull her down too to get her out of that position.

Your dear country that is intentionally bent on destroying the lives of millions of its populations using hunger and starvation as a weapon? Wow .. Rather than address that head, the focus of many of you cowards is a woman who escaped and is in a far away land not over the particular PTSD she associates with her past on that your country?

What a pathetic existence many of you live.

Love800:
Am talking about the fundamental schools(primary and secondary), and not SAT etc.

If you did not register your child in a school, how will he get his o'level and ssce certificates?

For that you would need to contact the board in charge of that exam for details. The exam is there to verify that one meets the necessary intelligence level for consideration for high school graduation and not that one attended a particular school so I would think that that too would not require a student to register through a school.(In a country with the World's highest out-of-school children count, this ought to be a no brainer but sadly this is Nigeria we are talking after all ) Anyways, you would need to contact the agency that administers SSCE to verify those details.

Ondo better learn lesson from Rivers State and the United State. Elections can be conducted without the help of Police Force only there to enforce rigging.

Love800:
Okay.
You talked about the dropout who studied at home and proceeded to write the exam. If he did not enroll, can he take the exam?

So you will not register for SAT, TOEFL, GRE, before taking their exams?

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Kobojunkie:
In most countries today, a dropout, for instance, can study at home, take the major exam, and get his certificate mailed to him without having to go through any school. Many of the common exams the world over do not require you to register through a school... SAT, TOEFL, GRE, CLT, etc.

Trophy12:
■ u still never understand me , I said two students where fighting amd i flogged them . Can't I tell correct again and discourage them from fighting?
■ Haba so I should just pamper them .
■ This is Africa no America . U no how many times then flog me for school back then. Besides I just gave the kid a single stroke of cane not two.

What does flogging have to do with discouraging people from fighting? Really think carefully about it. How does inflicting violence against two people go on to teach them that violence is wrong? Don't you see the upside logic to what you claim?

2. So, in your mind, not using violence is akin to pampering them? Are you for real?

3. You mean the same Africa, abi na Nigeria, where to this day, life remains a dog-eat-dog existence where over 150 million grown adults, many of them elderly and exposed to violence of flogging since their children are incapable of raising their fists against the minority pigs who pillage and destroy their collective inheritance? that Nigeria is the Nigeria you wish to see continued by your actions? Are you alright at all?

wiseoneking:
Thank God you believed something about Jesus for his people. You are not far from the kingdom of heaven

You think knowing YHWH and Jesus Christ of Israel merely has to do with saying with your mouth that you do? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

7upnigeria:
■ I don't think private school in Nigeria allows their teachers to form ANY UNION.

They do not allow in what way? Are teachers made to sign agreements that they wouldn't join unions while in their employment?

CodeTemplarr:
It is too expensive for the cabal to buy and resell via smuggling. Lol.

If, and this is a big IF, fuel subsidy has in fact been removed by the Nigerian government, what would it matter what the Cabal wants to buy with their own money or not though?

bewla:
Go ahead its always about the money for this guy

You dey mind the man?

sprints1:
■ The educational system needs to be reviewed I will make it short.
► Firstly, we must develop the sensorimotor stage of a child. A child shouldn't start writing at early age.
► Other manipulative skills should be worked on swimming, painting, grabbing, knitting.
► When they get older we need to divide the classroom into blackboard and practical classes where a child can choose any vocation of his choice building circuit, building, carpentry, tailoring, anything that involves the use of hands and feet even games as well chess, scrabble or any board games, football, golf, basketball, bat/racket games.
► All assignments should be dissolved infact any teacher giving homework in this modern day is a big fool. What is better is project based assignment.
► There should be a time where students to teach themselves. Then the most important public speaking. Una see the ideas of exposing a child to tablets and screen is very stupid.
► A child should start using a laptop at age 13. 1-12 they should be working on exercising their brain. Critical thinking games and IQ games should be encouraged to boost their maths skills.
► Una see these WAEC and NECO they should be scrapped complete garbage is what we are doing in school.
Am teacher with TRCN and other qualifications I studied B.sc(Ed) biology so I know what we are doing is crap. Even the greatest philosophers will be ashamed with what we are doing know if they are alive. Aristotle, plato, Socrates will be so gutted with the rubbish we are doing now. Maria Montessori will even be crying

Just imagine the suggestions from someone who claims to know and understand how to train children abeg! 🤐🤐🤐🤐

sprints1:
■ there is no point explaining anything to you. Keep living in denial. Raise your kid without the rod. I pray you secure their future well. I know you are well to do from the way you speak.
■ That is the reason you feel a child should be raised with silver spoon. We are growing a society of weakling and these children will suffer if they encounter problem in future because to be a survivalist you must have faced a lot. Do you know aside flogging. Failure in an examination also lead to depression. We should be building strong minds not weaklings.

See this is why I pointed out that the vast majority of those raised in your Nigeria and by the spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child system which you claim is traditional always seem to fall short of acceptable critical thinking standards.

All you have done up to this point is twist and fabricate claims in order to justify a point that has been massively proven of no real benefit to the world particularly to Nigerians as a whole. Again, look at that country as proof... the final report card... as far as these claims you continue to assert.

2. Nigeria today is a society you have contributed to raising. It is even now nothing to write home about. As a matter of fact, given the amount of mental damage that has been inflicted on the almost 200 million people living in that country, it may be many many generations after this — after at least 50% of Nigerians alive today are dead and gone—before common sense can begin to seep back into that society. The impact of the damaged educational system and the destructive traditional systems — that have contributed to indoctrinating the minds of 10s of millions in the art of the illogical—from the last 40 -50 years, in my opinion, can only be wiped out when the vast majority are dead and gone.

OlawaleBammie:
Mama rest na. U don dey acuse me wrongly already

Oh, now you go as far as to claim I accused you wrongly, this after pretending I attacked you on this same thread? How much lower do you intend to go with this?

makaveli902:
Look at Fashola mentioning Folorunsho Alakija!
If I have an Oil Well not to talk of Oil Block will I run to seek Greener Pastures?

Oil Well courtesy of IBB and his wife too.

Bobloco:
Fashola, who admitted that things were tough in Nigeria, advised young people in the country to push their way through to get into a place of decision-making.
“Why did Mrs Folorunso Alakija not run away? Why did Chief Tunde Afolabi who have contributed to Nigeria not run away ? Why are they still here? Times were equally tough in their younger days that propelled the popular musician Dr Victor Olaiya’s song Ilu le o, ko s’owo l’ode…. (sics) in the 60s.
“The youths have become leaders in the Nigerian household, and therefore, they must embrace that responsibility. Do leaders also run away when it is difficult? There were tough times when Chief Ade-Ojo was at the University of Nigeria (UNN), but Ade-Ojo didn’t leave. If he had left, there would be no Elizade University.” he said.

The caliber of people he regards as leaders speaks volumes of how very much part of the corrupt system this man truly is.

sprints1:
■ alright you have right to your own opinion. If you feel that is what works for you it is fine. I just told you my own point. To start with, canning a child does not kill a child. If a child is suffering from anaemia or shortage of RBCs it is better for the parents to homeschool them. I have taught a lot of students suffering from sickle cell anaemia they are reserved and hardly do the wtongs things what am I even saying a child with low oxy-haemoglobin go get energy to disobey a teacher.
■ I completely understand you are so engrossed with the western civilization and system, you think that will ever work in a Nigerian system dey play. Flogging a child excessively is different from spanking a child that does stupid things repetitively. Let me ask you a question you told a child not write on the margin, after correcting the child countless number of times, he still continued making the same mistake.
■ It seems you have not taught some disobedient and hyperactive children who will never listen. This you method will work abroad because they do not care.
■ A indgiene in the UK called a Nigerian teacher a monkey in front of his mates, the Nigerian teacher went to lay his complaints to the principal of the school. Nothing was done. My brother please come back to reality and stop comparing us with the west. Nigerians are not there yet.
■ I agree with you on Nigerian graduates not critical thinkers they hardly bring nothing to the table. This is due to the rigorous learning system that is the cause. A child learn from 7-5pm daily and they will still pack bond assignments and subject assignments for a child to bring the next day. Children are nature beings, but we stopped them from connecting with nature that is why most end up not discovering themselves. We have turned our students and pupils to obedient servants and you think they will able to think on their own when they grow up ...
■ This is classical conditioning not education... We have set their brains to receive stimulus that turn them obedient minions. Once a bell is rang they quickly adjust for the next class. These days children even find it hard to play during break they sit in class and eat like they are in a squid game. This is not due to flogging. Flogging if abused lead to depression. My own is flogging should not be withdrawn totally from the school system it is very important. A good form of negative reinforcement (Operant Conditioning)

1. Canning a child is against the law in Nigeria. I understand you lot think so little of your laws that is why you concert these delusions in your heads that caning a child won't kill it so then it becomes OK to do when in fact it is not. It is assault, according to the Nigerian Criminal Code Act.

2. Simply! You escalate the problem to the child's parents who can then proceed to train the child at home on how not to write beyond the margins even as you continue to train the child in the school. You could also penalize the child every time he does it wrong but mark his paper wrong each time. I am not certain why your approach would be to assault the child for not doing as you would prefer.

3. I used to be one of those hyperactive/ADHD children myself. It's not been that long since I was able to break free of that nonsense that pretty much plagued me all of my childhood and most of my adulthood. I rarely did homework as a child because I could never really get myself to focus on any one thing ever... I never knew what it meant to focus on anything until I got into mental health treatment late in my 30s. A terrible thing really because I lost most of my developmental years to that illness. It is the reason why some time back, I decided to go back to learning everything I did not learn beginning from Kindergarten up to fill in the holes in my learning from that time on.

Imagine if I had had terrible teachers like you who would have flogged the living daylight out of me over something I could not control... only so they could feel happy with themselves and pretend they were doing me good. I probably would have turned out worse like most Nigerian kids in Nigeria my age than did and continue to.

4. The law is not magic at all that is the reason behind the saying that one must PURSUE justice.

5. Nigeria DOES NOT have a rigorous learning system. Rigorous is what is obtained in places like Japan and South Korea, even China. In these countries. children learn from 8 am through to maybe even 9 pm. Yet they come out tops in the world as far as intelligence is concerned. Many of them rank pretty well when it comes to critical reasoning, aptitude, and social and emotional intelligence.

What Nigeria has is instead a broken system that pretends to teach students valuable information when it does not. It forces students to have to cram— rather than learn — their way through to the finish line, abandoning the need to critically reason and comprehend the information they are presented from the start through to the end as far as their learning.

6. Stop with this inane attempt to justify the unjustifiable. Yes, you all have taught so many kids and we have a nation of almost 200 million people as proof of your careers. And we are people who are not able to function properly as engaged, critically thinking individuals in this millennia. You are not examples of good teachers... that much is revealed by the result of your work. If I were you, I would stop with these ridiculous attempts to boast about the contributions you made to help bring Nigeria and the Nigerian people to their knees.

Richtaiwo:
Don't be too quick to judge. It is actually not intended to make sense to ipob miscreants.

Another eejit response! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

IamR:
There’s something off with this Deji. How can anyone reasonably compare Peter Obi with Tinubu and Atiku? Please, exclude Peter Obi from this discussion.

Because they are all the same — Politicians who think ruling Nigeria is about playing the political game. Nigerians, at this point in time, need something entirely different from all of that if it is to avoid becoming a failed state.

Richtaiwo:
Yes, agreed they are birds of the same feather. But when you see no difference among the 3 contestants, what do you do? Of course you go for the one with better appeal. There is no way a sane man will choose a man whose support base has nothing to say in support of their candidate other than insult insult and more insult.
If you look at the vote pattern, that is what happened.
Tinubu - first (least insultive supporters)
Atiku - second (less insultive supporters)
Obi - third (insultive and aggressive supporters)

Nonsense!

OlawaleBammie:
a don hear you. Don't attack me today

You mean compared to the many false claims you have previously been attacking our senses/intelligence with on this thread?

OlawaleBammie:
Kobojunkie wahala lady....I don't want to argue or trade thoughts with you today??

Typical ! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Your assumptions regarding my person DO NOT in any way change any of what I have stated on this issue. Asserting that it is OK to flout the existing standards to impose your illogical ideas and ways makes no sense no matter where you go on this planet.

spiceadole:
■ He must not assault and oppress people because he is a govt worker but at least,he won't be the victim or be at the mercy of greedy employers and their clients. I worked in 7 private hospitals in Nigeria and almost ran mad..I started feeling like a human being the moment I got into the government hospital. Besides,there is no future in private jobs. Op just has to quit

Have you ever been to any government office in Nigeria and gotten great customer service or have you instead been made to feel small and forced to pay a bribe to get service you already pay taxes for?

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sprints1:
■ alright, you want me to give solutions to education in a country that doesn't value opinions from people like me. I know you are fine with the matrix. We are raising kids to be obedient slaves and tools for the rat race, most of these children can't do things on their own they don't know anything about critical thinking, they can't think outside the box they locked them with principles and laws they do not need to know. You are making a lot of sense literally.
■ But you have not seen the problem from my point of view. I am not forcing you to agree. I have been teaching professionally for 9 years with my TRCN and B.ed. I did a lot of research on curriculum planning and alternative resources to learning. You made mention of emotional intelligence which is very essential in children lives. You can't have emotional intelligent children if they do not learn to accept criticism in the cruel way. These days you correct a child by the rod you are violating his human rights, you correct a child verbally you are abusive. You encourage a child you are manipulative.
■ That's why children these days are prone to killing themselves out depression that never existed but they lack emotional intelligence. I teach biology as a subject and I try my possible best to relate my subject with the real world. I can body tell 3/4 of what is learnt in school is unecessary. We have left things like psychology of the mind, ignored psychomotor development, importance of values... But we want our wards and children to be perfect. I always let my students know mistake is acceptable it becomes a problem when it is becomes repetitive. I do not quickly use the rod. I would have warned a child 3 times if repeated after that I will flog I do not care if you Tinubu' daughter. That is me. Money is not me, but my integrity and values is my strength.
■ Countries like china that are not wiser theoretically are doing well than us because they communicated with nature more than we do. How many times do we bask in the sun. This is part of the things that boost pur cognitive memory. We know have more dumb children than we do in the past because of negligence. Our children are not eating right and locked in 4-walls for close 250 days in a calendar year. Until you realize school is an indoctrination and prison you can never see sense in my statement

1. Nigerian educational system is raising obedient slaves? Many foreign companies in Nigeria would rather hire foreigners than Nigerians in Nigeria. You know why? Because the system as it is DOES NOT raise what you refer to as obedient slaves in any way. Rather, it continues to raise inadequate and incompetent individuals who don't even understand or know to follow rules. Let's be realistic in our assessment of reality abeg!

I saw a video some days ago made by Isaac Fayose on Twitter, I think. He said he opened an Amala restaurant some time ago and put in all he could to make the place work but in just a matter of months, the joint was reduced to nothing by his Nigerian employees. These are people who would have had for themselves good employment, steady income, and even a place to grow had the business gone on to do well, but their general inability to critically reason as humans ought to have led them to consume the business instead. These are people raised and nurtured in Nigeria by your many traditions and your spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child system of training. After Fayose was done, he warned that his case was the norm and not the exception, in case someone attempted to write it off as something that only happened to a minority in Nigeria.

2. This much is clear from your responses. You are a typical Nigerian in your handling of information. You twist assumptions in such as way as to make them seem like facts all so you can continue to propagate what are inane ideas.

I was raised in Nigeria by parents who initially believed in the spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child system of training until they no longer did. Throughout all of my childhood, I suffered from depression and I even knew of some in the small community I was raised in who more than likely committed suicide from depression even though the vast majority of people around would rather believe Abiku and spirits were to blame for those deaths. Many of the deaths were of people who were raised according to the same system that my parents initially raised me with. The flogging and harsh punishment probably led some to eventually take their lives too... who knows. But what I do know is that there was no Abiku among them—sickle-cell-ers were rarely caned— and most of the dead didn't even have powers to commune with spirits to begin with. But many of them were said to have gone to bed, never to wake up again; at least that is the story that the public was fed of those deaths in that small community of Ikorodu where I grew up. Some of them were in the same school as I was at the time. We are talking the 80s and 90s here, pal!

You pretend that depression is something new in Nigeria so that you can claim it is to be blamed on lack of discipline. What you instead reveal by that is the IQ level you happen to be working with. Not so great at all!

3. I can see that you inhale your own bullsheet and you think yourself wise in your delusions... I will leave you to it!

Love800:
So how will they get the certificates and degrees?

In most countries today, a dropout, for instance, can study at home, take the major exam, and get his certificate mailed to him without having to go through any school. Many of the common exams the world over do not require you to register through a school... SAT, TOEFL, GRE, CLT, etc.

sprints1:
■ no problem, sir am a teacher and a trained one I worked personally with a retired professor of philosophy of education. He taught me study technology coined by one the compass people Lord Ron Hubbard . I learnt a lot from him during my days as an undergraduate and will always appreciate him till this day. I would have flogged Tiwa savage and davido as a teacher if they are spoilt. I go beat shege banza comot their body. And I know I will resign.
■ Because am like Jose mourinho in the workspace I have never worked more than 2 years in an establishment. I get bored easily. No matter how much am paid. I always leave.
■ Back to the point, laissez - faire approach to discipline has never worked in education you can ask anyone who is an educationist. Works for a short while when it backfires you will lose your respect and pedigree as a teacher. We were beaten in school did we die. We shouldn't bring western culture into our African culture. Traditional education which is a form of informal education it is important you flog and punish a child who defiant and stubborn. Make we stop this trend of spare the rod. This spoilt brat needs to be dealt with. Most of their parents don't give them the required basic home training. There is nothing like softer discipline. Even the form of softer discipline which B.F skinner is also not a soft discipline and it doesn't work on Nigerian students.
■ Even in military settings they put the trainees under unfavorable conditions in order to get the best out of them.
■ But some wings here want us us overpamper children by buying ice cream for them when they call me a stupid teacher

1. By the time they legally have you charged and prosecuted, and make certain you rot in jail for as long as is possible, you will never again think in your life to raise your hands against another human being, ever!

2. That speaks volumes of these delusions you continue to carry along with you.

3. In almost the entire country of the U.S. not a single student was flogged in the schools over the last 30 years. The vast majority of them who are now adults are intelligent, hardworking, law-abiding members of the public who do not take their rights and the law for granted.

Can you say the same of all of those who were flogged in Nigerian school systems over the same period?

4. Nigerian army trainees are constantly abused by their supervising officers as well as those above them. Can you in any way compare the zeal of the average Nigerian army trainee to that of, say an American Army trainee who is subjected mostly to the legal training required for all army trainees?

5. Overpamper? What Overpampering manual do you quote from abeg? When did buying children ice cream amount to overpampering them? Where does it say so in the Overpampering manual you keep quoting from?

Your cup of bullsheet reasoning runneth over... that much is clear from this disconnected retort of yours. 😁

bitbillionaire:
✓ You will most likely overpamper and spoil your kids from the way you are talking.

Who made you the standard as far as pampering abeg? Where is this standard of over pampering uja dey like to quote from. Make we see am check something.

mhiztaNexy:
■ How is this connected with mannerless kids? I don't support beating kids for school fee, failing to buy textbooks and other nonsense some schools do.
■ WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DISRESPECTFUL AND MANNERLESS KIDS THAT SEE NO WRONG IN THEIR DOINGS!

Under Nigerian Law, a kid is a citizen of Nigeria with the same rights as every adult in that land. According to the Law, when one citizen violates or assaults another citizen, the law is clear that such an act is criminal.

I know you lot do not like abiding by the law as you would rather hold to delusions not recognized by your laws. But if a teacher flogs/assaults a student and the student takes that teacher to the police, do you know or even understand that could mean the end of that teacher's career and maybe even jail term?

2. You would disregard common sense because of feelings of disrespect and what you term mannerlessness? 😁

Lamasta:
✓ How many times have you read in the news that Man City academy learners call their trainer or mentors stupid

Why would such a thing be in or even make the news for Pete's sake? What kind of ridiculous question is that?

OlawaleBammie:
✓ Different scenarios here.. ur story is about school fees, the op story is about over pampering, not taking responsibility from the students, the head of the school neglecting the crucial teaching needed to groom the kids, ridiculing the teachers just before the kids, rendering the teachers powerless and useless before the kids...

This is different from school fees scenarios.

You didn't pay attention at all. OP's story is instead about how his particular reasoning is not favored by the methods employed at the school he is at. When OP signed on to the job, the agreement he had was that he would stick to standards as set by the school in compliance with Ministry of Education rules. But, from his reveal, OP disregards the rules to impose his ideas and standards instead.

There is nothing wrong with pampering kids as long as it is not in violation of the law. The most important thing here is abiding by the Law/Rules when it comes to training the kids and OP himself confesses from his many statements that he does not care much about that.

missionmex:
✓ You compare a student to a teacher, your level of understanding is too shallow.

Here's something you obviously don't know. 😁😁😁😁😁

Under the Nigerian Constitution, a student is a citizen same as his teacher. They both have the same rights. You pretending one is a god over the other is all part of the particular mental delusion you hold to, a delusion in no way recognized by the Law even in Nigeria. Under Nigerian Law, if one citizen assaults another citizen, the victim is legally right to have his assaulter charged and prosecuted for the assault. 😁