₦airaland Forum

Allotrope69:
■ I don't owe u any further explanations Sir

You are right but I intend to use this avenue to let others who are instead willing to do something about their situation know it is not as hopeless as they may think.

Allotrope69:
■ Let me tell u this, if u dare send a student out of class, you're in trouble. No matter what.

OK! So, what then are you allowed to do as far as penalizing a kid who is causing a nuisance during the class, for instance? Stop telling us what it is you can't do and start telling us exactly what the school rule book allows for these things.

chidiokay:
■ even if you blind, you blind reach brain since when do vice have authority to give his own directives or policies. The few time Buhari felt he made a mistake hand overing to Osinbanjo did star boy not make remarkable moves that earned him cheers from Nigerians
when buhari returned did he not sideline osinbanjo completely. we all know prof. osinbanjo is better compared to the rogues that made up his party

Who said anything about handing over? Are you people alright at all?

Are you people alright at all? Did Tinubu ever hand over to Shettima that we hear the man speak his mind and travel claiming he does so for the sake of Nigeria every so often? Nonsense!

VinnyBaba:
■ Illicit, Abeg Leave the OP. The OP is not a Seasoned Teacher despite staying in the profession for years. If he was, he would have found to Micro-manage his time in school, Instead of complaining like a Frustrated housewife. And the Beating part, you and KoboJunkie are Right, It's not Everytime you beat students. Beat a Student but NEVER create the Impression you hate him/her.

I am completely against teachers ASSAULTING their students altogether.

A teacher can penalize a student— send him out of the class, fine him or something— but never punish the student. Punishments should all be handled according to school Policy as signed off and agreed upon by the parents instead.

Murketeer:
■ The way you are attacking him .. one would think he was the President and Buhari who makes most of the Decisions the vice

Attacking him? Are we not talking of the same guy who went around selling his school lunches program only in select schools during the same Buhari regime?

Donaldoni:
■ What is training without punishment

That's simple! It is training.

There are rules when it comes to what penalties or punishments are allowed in each case and these should be established by the school and agreed to by the parents who are the legal guardians of the students. The teacher can penalize a student but punishments for offenses are to be according to the school rule book signed by the parents of the student.

flyinnizam:
shut up...vice president can't do anything based on Nigeria leadership style

Really? Yet, Shettima, the current vice President is all over the place opening his mouth and providing backup to the current administration, even if a terrible one.

Murketeer:
■ lol … I didn’t know Osinbajo was the president

So, a vice president is to collect salary without any work to show for all that money and time spent occupying that seat?

Sharpsharp00123:
but it students say u are stupid n u are cool with it right?

Again, you haven't answered the question. Let me switch it up for you a bit. If a fellow teacher called you stewpid, what do you think would be the appropriate response from you?

Donaldoni:
@bolded what kind of stupid concept is this for chrissake Teachers are part of training a child

A teacher is training, not punishment. Punishment should be left to the parents. What part of that do you not understand?

Urgent1Million:
■ Yes. How much salary per month do you think a school taking 40k as fees would pay their teachers? I am very sure the op is surviving with side hustles.

I am not worried about the school but about OP who needs to keep a job paying him some salary in the current economic situation that is Nigeria. The fact that he is not properly compensated existed before all of these complaints by OP surfaced.

Urgent1Million:
■ So you have taught in 9 schools across 4 states and you are still teaching in a school that collects 40k as fees per term? Sorry but you need to think deeply.

In the current economy, you want him to begin considering dumping his job to look for a better paying job?

ebukal67x:
Osinbajo wan go do rally for Tinubu

Osinbajo, I heard somewhere, is also reason how Tinubu was able to amass for himself so much land against the will of many during his time in Lagos as well.

Sharpsharp00123:
have u been a teacher before?

Yes, I have! Now, please, answer the question!

If student A called student B stupid, what do you think student B should do to student A? Think carefully before responding!

Allotrope69:
■ I'm glad you have an understanding of what I'm talking about. I feel really pained.

You came to post your complaint and aren't open to accepting that maybe you have had it wrong all of this while? Why bother post on here in the politics section for that matter if all you wanted was to have a pity party?

Tonitoniton:
■ Gigolos are male prostitutes. There are men cassanovas that can not have sex with some certain group of women for any reason while same group of women will have sex with even their worst enemies without actually showing it.
■ I have seen women that married their husbands just to deal with them for past offences

The same that applies as far as male prostitutes apply as far as female prostitutes in this.

2. Its the same for some men. There is the famous story of the pigmallion for example. There are men who marry women to deal with them for past rejection.

HgAkpobomeEr:
Osinbajo is a good man.

Stop deceving yourselves!

Your good man there sat back for 8 solid years as Vice President and did absolutely nothing for the hungry Nigerians out there. He had 8 solid years to plan and probably implement a National Food bank and Food voucher problem that would help the over 40 million Nigerians who were thrown into abject poverty during the Buhari years. But he did nothing of the sort. Even his school lunch program was shoddily planned and implemented and probably no more. So, what makes him a good guy?

onuman:
■ Honesty is the first step to solving a problem.
Food insecurity in Nigeria emerged from
(1) Fulani herdsmen killing and raping farmers in the Middle belt and southern regions.
(2) Boko Haram disrupting farming in Nigeria's Northeastern region.
(3) Bandits/kidnappers disrupting farming in Nigeria's northwest region.
Connect the dots: Boko Haram emerged shortly after the political and religious leaders in 12 far north Nigeria states adopted unconstitutional sharia criminal justice system. Boko Haram says that it's fighting for a country to be governed with Sharia criminal justice system.
UBandits are offshoots of Boko Haram. Bandits, Boko Haram, Fulani herdsmen share the same objective. The objective is a Nigeria to be governed with Sharia criminal laws.
Even a little boy would tell you that dissolution of Nigeria into more manageable countries is the ideal solution.

Now let me guess, FAO will come to Nigeria abi na your black nation to do this for you, abi? Cause I still consider pathetic and disgusting how you felt FAO should be blamed for blacks literally killing off blacks in the black nation called Nigeria.

Sharpsharp00123:
u are an idiot. So a student says a teacher is stupid n we should overlook that n start investigation right? U really dey craze

If student A called student B stupid, what do you think student B should do to student A? Think carefully before responding!

Allotrope69:
■ The proprietor of the sch is who understands all these, but his wife is different. His wife is so sentimental, biased and emotional and unfair when judging cases. There are three staff there who can never be wrong in her eyes. Three days into my assumption of duty there, I was told about this by some old staff, but I doubted until I found out that what I heard was actually the truth. I believe a Boss should carry everyone along and not love some and despise others. She goes as far as gossipping about her staff with other staff(her right-hand staff).
■ See, I love teaching and God knows. I'm so passionate about this profession despite the fact that it is almost not a lucrative job. I have taught in Nine(9) private schools, in four(4) different states of this country so I'm well experienced by God's grace. But this sch is something else. The only good thing is that they don't owe salaries. Never.

1. The students can come together and engage the proprietor on the problems they face when dealing with students and staying in compliance with Ministry of Education rules which every teacher is required to abide by no matter what.

2. All the more reason why you should look for ways to solve the problem and do your best to get people in on it. This might be a way for you to not only make things better for you and others but also build your portfolio as a teacher and manager.

Suicideboy:
Dinner

That actually looks like a balanced diet!

AfonjaConehead:
It's a horrible in this Nigeria....
I got some perishables in bulk and stored in my freezer and I'm afraid they be going bad cos of this power outage! What kinda country is this?!

Better go learn how to dry everything you can before you lose it all.

Allotrope69:
■ The child wasn't punished or sanctioned at all. No teacher will weigh in. In fact, the sch owners are happy when there's disunity among the staff

What are the school's established rules as far as exam malpractice? You should know this, quote, and implement this. So what is it? If you are not aware of this then what is the Ministry of Education's policy on exam malpractice? Quote and then implement it.

I am curious, does your school have a rule-book or policy on which teachers base their interaction with the students?

Allotrope69:
■ But it is right for a student to disrespect a teacher and even insult the teacher? A student told a teacher that she's stupid

If a student says the same to another student, what would you consider a reasonable response?

Allotrope69:
■ The teachers there are all women. We are 42 teaching staff in bothe the creche, kindergarten, nursery, primary and secondary. Out of the 42 staff, only five a men, including me. But even the men still act as women. They are controlled by the school owners. Three weeks ago, I was informed that I would be given management position in the school, but I politely turned it down. Why? Because as a management staff, my suggestions will never be given due consideration so what's the point? There's also no special salary for that. I told my Boss, that I will always come up with ideas to better the sch and act the way he wants, but I can't accept the role of being a management staff. He was shocked.
■ Now we can't have a union. They won't allow it. Cos they will see it as a rebellious union. I first taught in 2012. And after a term in that sch, I was made the dean of studies and chairman of staff welfare. I was so so close to the sch owners and was highly influential cos I was extremely dedicated to duty. That's the sch I will never forget . A great sch who wants discipline and sanity

1. IT does not matter the gender of the teachers but the fact that each of them has something they would like to see changed and would benefit from forming a group to make their needs heard.

2. Go study up on teacher unions to realize it is probably nothing of what you are thinking there.

Atuero:
■Any of which sort exactly? Buhari never scattered Nigeria economy you mean?

Buhari was an incompetent power-hungry slowpoke with extremist values who eventually revealed himself to be just as corrupt as the many he gathered around himself.

N3TRAL:
■ Nope, agnostics are humble enough to know that they do not possess ultimate knowledge regarding the existence of things.

Being undecided is nothing to do with humility, my friend. Again, you can keep telling yourself these things though!

tanigororo:
Don't worry, I understand. Charity begins at home! 😃 Ọmọ Abikọ́, tí òun fí kúnmọ̀ jí Bàbá rẹ̀!

I don't subscribe to your traditions; most of the world does not. So attempting to invoke it against me is ... utter foolishness.

By the way, do you even happen to know the meaning of the word Charity to begin with?

Allotrope69:
■ As a teacher, if a student fails to do your assignment, and u discipline that child, the proprietoriess will blame u. And if u don't discipline that child to Correct him/her, and same proprietoriess finds out that the students didn't do your assignment, she will public scold you. Shout at an erring student, it's a problem. Flog the child, it's a problem. Talk to the child, it's a problem. They will find a way of misconstruing your words to suit their narratives. A student can insult u and u won't do anything. If u do, they will label u as wicked. They will ask u why u can't see the child as just a child and overlook things. It's really frustrating.
■ You can imagine catching a JSS 2 student doing test and exam malpractice, if u deduct the child's score, it's a problem. If u flog, it's a Problem. I once deducted a child's score when I caught him him cheating in an exam. I mean, this boy had the impetus, guts and audacity to open his Maths notebook and be copying directly to his exams script. I used my red pen to deduct just 10marks, and in the end, I was told not to deduct any score. It was said right in the presence of this same student, and other students present there. I was weak. Very weak.

1. No point in all that stress though! Just report the kid to the parents every time the kid fails to do an assignment. Let the parents handle the disciplining of their child. You should not punish the child... that job belongs to the parents.

2. What were you told to instead do in that case? Whoever told you not to deduct must have told you what to do instead. If the suggestion given was to allow the cheating, then you have every right to invoke Ministry of Education level rules against such acts and have the other teachers weigh in. Cheating is unacceptable and should not be condoned.

Allotrope69:
■ The sch ke? You will use your airtime. That's not a problem as far as I'm concerned. We are all humans and adults, we don't need to be Told about some of these things. But why should we be compelled to do so when they can't buy us airtime?

Then you teachers should come together and demand the school refunds you all for the airtime used for that since your private phones are yours and businesses should not eat out of it. The teachers can form a union to ensure they are not shortchanged in this.

Allotrope69:
■ Some supervisors came from the Ministry of Education a few weeks ago, and they noticed that we over pamper the children. They told us that they hope we have a university for them, because the way we are pampering them, if they go to higher institutions with such lackadaisical & nonchalant attitude, they will fail. So it's either we reduce the way we do it or we build a university for them to continue the pampering. It's not like the sch is a big sch where parents pay heavy sums as sch fees. Fee is 40k per term.

That one should not be your own business at all because you are there to school the kids as the parents want you to. And I would not trust the Ministry of Education in Nigeria when it comes to what is right or wrong for my kids.

Allotrope69:
Here's the most annoying part for me. I have a student. A new student who just came in in September. The child hasn't been doing well. The parents came on Open Day and met with me, we discussed on the way forward and how we can help the child to do better. This is a student who cares less about studies, so it is almost difficult to help him. Today we concluded our second Continuous Assessment Test and almost every teacher whose subjects had been written have all marked their scripts. I told this particular student to go round the teachers and get the scores of all His subjects for me. They offer 18 subjects. But to my surprise, the proprietoriess told me to go round the teachers and get his scores. She said so in the presence of this child. This is a woman that knows how busy I am as a Maths teacher, I barely even sit in my class cos I am always up and doing. What's wrong in a child carrying out this simple task?

Technically, the child should not be the one collecting his own record from each of the teachers. So you teachers along with your proprietor should come up with a more efficient and effective way of sharing records without having the kids do it for themselves.