₦airaland Forum

Donaldoni:
■ You are still saying NONSENSE. Why the parents send the child to school

I send children to school every morning here. I don't send them there to be punished by their teachers but rather for the teachers to train them. When kids do something wrong at school, the school may penalize them but the parents are responsible for doling out punishment they feel is most appropriate for the kids. That is one of the reasons why the school calls home immediately to report the situation to the parents. Rather than take it into their hands to decide for themselves.

If you still can't seem to comprehend what I have been saying all this while, then I am afraid I can't help you at all.

Trophy12:
Oga leave the school. Where I once teach I flog a student for over bad behavior the father came the second day begin fight me .

If the father never agreed that you could ASSAULT his child— I believe many states are already declaring assault of that kind a crime at this point— then you are in the wrong for doing that. If that man had filed assault charges against you with the police, not even the principal of that school would have been able to help you.

Myrrhis:
■ What is the point of this question? Why are you hellbent on putting the blame on the op?

Care to provide me an answer to the question yourself? There is a reason to be discovered from answering the question.

Donaldoni:
■ Why then did you say he should not punish the student

Try to pay attention, please!

The teacher shouldn't punish the student. It is rather the parents who decide what punishment the students should get and when. Not the teacher who can only penalize the kids for wrongdoing.

VinnyBaba:
■ Brotherly, the World has changed and as a Smart person, You must change with the times. If you are Opportuned to teach in a school of Wizkid, Davido, Tiwa Savage, etc children and they insult you, will you really be able to discipline them in a Pattern you would want? You will be Forced to look for Softer styles of Discipline. That's is the Point KoboJunkie is trying to make.

That na where you go see say all of this supposed concern for kids wey these ones wey call themselves teachers claim dem get na all talk and nothing but talk..... hypocritical model teachers are they and nothing more. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dem no born am well to lift finger against any of those children even if dem throw sheet their way. Na only where poor people children dey dem dey like flex muscles. Sort of like bullies if you ask me. 😂😂😂😂😂

sprints1:
■ that's why we have generation of weaklings spare the rod and spoil the child. A child does a wrong thing and we should leave the child to rot.
■ I think schools should be closed down and parents should teach their children themselves.
■ I am tired discussing the progress of education with people who are hellbent on western culture and discipline on how to raise a child. That is why we have children abroad who know dictate to parents that they want their gender reassigned at tender ages. You are not a teacher so you would know how naive and uncultured these gen alphas are. Some lack common basic home training and you expect the to be tolerated everywhere. The solution is clear. Parents should home school their chikdren. We will always survive regardless if one road is broken there is always another way out.

I don't think you even see what is right in front of your eyes all this while.

Using the rod is why Nigeria as a country is where it is today with over 150 million adults afraid to stand up against the barely 20,000 ruining their lives and destroying the future of their children. You have millions on whom this so-called rod was used who turned out wicked incompetent individuals incapable of running their communities and society at the local, state, and even national levels. An entire nation of over 200 million people without the critical, emotional, and social intelligence necessary to capably lead and rule over themselves...this is the result of all your "Spare the rod and spoil the child" campaigns from the time of your ancestors. Yet you are blindly suggesting the same even after all of this?

2. And what should happen when there are no parents to teach kids? The kids should be allowed to freely roam without Education? Please cut the bull!

3. But you have not discussed anything about the progress of education. I am not a teacher by profession but I regularly teach kids without needing to lift even a finger against them. I do this every day. The priority is to raise mentally stable, socially and emotionally intelligent children who understand how to abide by the law in whatever it is they do and pursue. How many of those have been raised in your Nigerian schools, for example?

being:
■ So they should continue pampering and spoiling the kids right?
■ if that woman is not careful, she will.produce failures in mass from her school.
@OP, u should for other schools to.teach! that's not a workable school system. it will soon implode educationally and disciplinewise

1. OP works at a private school and unless that school directly violates any standards set by the Ministry of Education, OP can do nothing but abide by School rules. That is why I continue to insist that he consult the school rule book in everything he does. The parents signed off on that when they enrolled their kids in the school. So for OP to go against the school policy may result in criminal charges against his person depending on the situation.

2. It is her school. I already made suggestions to OP on how he could go about getting the school to change things but he is not interested.

sprints1:
■ not all teachers are half-baked some of us developed ourselves and we value our integrity. I find homeschooling a positive way helping kids in this modern day. I think the traditional teaching method is frustrating. But I am educationist. Are we really teaching these students or indoctrinating them with useless ideas they won't need. I have learnt a lot after learning from a group called revival of wisdom. I think so far a child is able to comprehend and do basic summation and difference the rest is bullshiiit

Nigerian schools along with the vast majority of Nigerian teachers are clearly in terrible straits. The entire educational system should be overhauled at this point as what is clear.

sprints1:
■ private school in Lagos when a fellow teacher who does lesson for a child because I beat a boy who was negligent and spoilt the stupid teachers in that school called me to apologize to the child. After forcing me and the teachers started acting weird had to use one teacher's phone I was close with who was his former class teacher to state the reason why I beat the child in short I had to apologize after massive pressure what do I know then I thought money was everything. The boy saw me the following day and told me I told my parents I have forgiven you. I shock. I happy I left there.
■ Teaching is worse than being a cleaner imagine a graduate treated like mopstick. I faced a lot of disgusting things as class teacher in Lagos. When I see parents of wards I see them like dog shiits... I currently teach in another school but I have vowed never to relate with any parent. Sometimes I no dey greet them. Useless bunch of millennial parents my generation is the worst parents have seen the and Gen X

1. Your fellow teacher had absolutely no right to ASSAULT a child. You assault any child— except for case of self-defense—, you should be jailed

2. Teaching is not for everyone. Only those with the right temperament, and emotional and social intelligence levels should be allowed to teach abeg!

mikkyangel3:
Na mumu dey send their children to Nigerian schools. Get their syllabus, get Starlink, Home school your kids. If you leave your children's education to half-baked, poorly-paid, frustrated Nigerian teachers? Oyo is your casel.

I expected that homeschooling would have caught on by now given the terrible state of schooling in Nigeria but unfortunately, Nigerian parents don't even see that as something at all.

NiceLegs:
I am a Teacher. I have a Bachelors Degree (B.Sc) in Geography and Planning. I have experience teaching in both Primary and Secondary School. I am also very skilled at teaching Maths at Primary and Junior Secondary level. But the day I left teaching in Nigeria was the day my life changed.
A time is coming soon when Parents will end up leaving their jobs to stay back at home to teach their own children by themselves because there would be noone to teach your kids. I can just imagine Baba Femi who doesnt know Maths atall struggling to teach his 10yrs old son Mathematics. Mark my words. I'm out.

Teachers are essential in every society. The Nigerian problem is that many who are into teaching are there for the wrong reasons, and those of them who are there for the right reasons — because they love teaching and have a true passion for training the future generation — do not get the respect they deserve from those in the establishment and the entire education system itself(not the kids). And this is where having teacher's unions in each district — for private and for public schools — would make a whole lot of sense and go a long way in bringing some sanity into all of this.

Overmars36:
■ Ur busybody is just too much. U be woman? Na ur Papa frustrate OP na. Seems you're just jobless

**Yawn***

Overmars36:
■ Na ur papa frustrate am?

Are you dense? Of course, OP is frustrated! That much is outright clear from his OP there.

He believes all he holds to he does so because he cares about the kids when in fact he does not care as much as he lets on. He is more interested in a situation that works at his level of social and emotional intelligence rather than that which is more logical as it should be in a school setting.

Overmars36:
■ Once in a while try to have sense pls. Why talking to the op with such disrespect?
Some of u here are just so terrible. Someone came out to open up to us and this is the best u can offer? You're not in his shoes so it's not your fault. You're really embarrassing

What in the world are you rambling about now?

slimfit1:
■ You make sense,but our people won't see sense in the point you are making. Common sense is strange to them.

It is indeed unbelievable to watch abeg!

Jokerman:
■ Any child wey dem no train for house, must be trained outside

I don't follow... you let life train the child or do you impose your own idea of training on the child? Try to be more specific here so I follow your line of reasoning.

chidiokay:
■ i said more than "hand over" but if thats what spiked your brain no wahala. shettima spoke is mind how did that metamorphose into directives or policy implemented. naa osinbanjo no travel, was he tied down 🤔 So for 8yrs osinbanjo did speak or the things he spoke about are not from his mind 🤣 you are even more daft than i thought, my bad

Now this one things not making sense is the way to counter a point! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Allotrope69:
■ I don't owe u any further explanations Sir

You are right but I intend to use this avenue to let others who are instead willing to do something about their situation know it is not as hopeless as they may think.

Allotrope69:
■ Let me tell u this, if u dare send a student out of class, you're in trouble. No matter what.

OK! So, what then are you allowed to do as far as penalizing a kid who is causing a nuisance during the class, for instance? Stop telling us what it is you can't do and start telling us exactly what the school rule book allows for these things.

chidiokay:
■ even if you blind, you blind reach brain since when do vice have authority to give his own directives or policies. The few time Buhari felt he made a mistake hand overing to Osinbanjo did star boy not make remarkable moves that earned him cheers from Nigerians
when buhari returned did he not sideline osinbanjo completely. we all know prof. osinbanjo is better compared to the rogues that made up his party

Who said anything about handing over? Are you people alright at all?

Are you people alright at all? Did Tinubu ever hand over to Shettima that we hear the man speak his mind and travel claiming he does so for the sake of Nigeria every so often? Nonsense!

VinnyBaba:
■ Illicit, Abeg Leave the OP. The OP is not a Seasoned Teacher despite staying in the profession for years. If he was, he would have found to Micro-manage his time in school, Instead of complaining like a Frustrated housewife. And the Beating part, you and KoboJunkie are Right, It's not Everytime you beat students. Beat a Student but NEVER create the Impression you hate him/her.

I am completely against teachers ASSAULTING their students altogether.

A teacher can penalize a student— send him out of the class, fine him or something— but never punish the student. Punishments should all be handled according to school Policy as signed off and agreed upon by the parents instead.

Murketeer:
■ The way you are attacking him .. one would think he was the President and Buhari who makes most of the Decisions the vice

Attacking him? Are we not talking of the same guy who went around selling his school lunches program only in select schools during the same Buhari regime?

Donaldoni:
■ What is training without punishment

That's simple! It is training.

There are rules when it comes to what penalties or punishments are allowed in each case and these should be established by the school and agreed to by the parents who are the legal guardians of the students. The teacher can penalize a student but punishments for offenses are to be according to the school rule book signed by the parents of the student.

flyinnizam:
shut up...vice president can't do anything based on Nigeria leadership style

Really? Yet, Shettima, the current vice President is all over the place opening his mouth and providing backup to the current administration, even if a terrible one.

Murketeer:
■ lol … I didn’t know Osinbajo was the president

So, a vice president is to collect salary without any work to show for all that money and time spent occupying that seat?

Sharpsharp00123:
but it students say u are stupid n u are cool with it right?

Again, you haven't answered the question. Let me switch it up for you a bit. If a fellow teacher called you stewpid, what do you think would be the appropriate response from you?

Donaldoni:
@bolded what kind of stupid concept is this for chrissake Teachers are part of training a child

A teacher is training, not punishment. Punishment should be left to the parents. What part of that do you not understand?

Urgent1Million:
■ Yes. How much salary per month do you think a school taking 40k as fees would pay their teachers? I am very sure the op is surviving with side hustles.

I am not worried about the school but about OP who needs to keep a job paying him some salary in the current economic situation that is Nigeria. The fact that he is not properly compensated existed before all of these complaints by OP surfaced.

Urgent1Million:
■ So you have taught in 9 schools across 4 states and you are still teaching in a school that collects 40k as fees per term? Sorry but you need to think deeply.

In the current economy, you want him to begin considering dumping his job to look for a better paying job?

ebukal67x:
Osinbajo wan go do rally for Tinubu

Osinbajo, I heard somewhere, is also reason how Tinubu was able to amass for himself so much land against the will of many during his time in Lagos as well.

Sharpsharp00123:
have u been a teacher before?

Yes, I have! Now, please, answer the question!

If student A called student B stupid, what do you think student B should do to student A? Think carefully before responding!

Allotrope69:
■ I'm glad you have an understanding of what I'm talking about. I feel really pained.

You came to post your complaint and aren't open to accepting that maybe you have had it wrong all of this while? Why bother post on here in the politics section for that matter if all you wanted was to have a pity party?