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7upnigeria:
✓ Then he shouldn't try to give RULES in another person's school.
Anywhere I work, THE RULES MUST FAVOUR ME. If you like don't disciple your students, thats your own problem. The moment I realise your principles are against my life, AM OUT.
✓ SECONDLY, most schools dont have RIGID RULES as they're just business centres. The rules you shouldn't joke with arr the ones that affect you personally. If the OP continues to rebel against SCHOOL OWNERS, he'll find himself out of job very soon.

That's why I kept referring him back to sticking to School rules and policies. I think many Nigerian workers, teachers included are not mentally prepared to sticking to rules/laws. That is why many go in to an environment thinking only of themselves rather than what is expected of them.

2. if the School does not have rigid rules, then it is opportunity for the teachers to come together as a team to either endure ministry-level rules are at least enforced no matter what? After all, it is for their own good since they will each be held legally responsible when they violate at least that.

Trophy12:
let me break it down to you , am just newly employed there this particular kid was fighting another kid which his much older than . I caught the kid and I flog him . There is no scar nor injury on the kid body .the kid got home and told his dad that I flogged him. Where am teaching most parents don't want there children been flogged.

Do you know what you just taught the child you felt you were correcting? It is that if he was in position of power over the other, it becomes OK to use violence against/abuse the other child.

Look at Nigeria today..Oga/madam dey slap gateman, driver, employee...Politicians dey slap and belittle ordinary citizens...husbands dey beat their wives..wives dey torture house helps...Police dey beat, torture and even shoot people wey dem no like...😩

Everyone is has literally made it their place to take out their angst against others in a violent way. Teachers, una do well as una handiwork dey everywhere.🙄

Melonsmasher:
■ Do JSS3 students actually take their lunch boxes to school? I thought the OP was writing about primary school until I came across that paragraph.

Yes, students can take a lunch or eat school lunch where I live. It all depends on the school, I believe.

When I was in JSS 3, I used to take a lunch box to school. My mom was good about packing us lunches — she didn't believe in having us buy food outside of the house.

KosiGee:
■ I think you as a teacher should address their problems right there. Call them together, listen to their issues/complaints…make the aggressor or the student using such language understand that’s it’s wrong. Ask him/her to apologise…they should make up before leaving your presence.
■ Teachers are supposed to act as parents to the kids. Now if your sibling calls you stupid, what would you do? call him/her stupid back? report to your parents?
■ Would you call your parents stupid?

1. Interesting! So you would ask the offender to (verbally) apologize to the other student. OK!

2. Teachers are supposed to act as parents to the kids? I don't know about that because students know their parents differently from their teachers.

3. When I was younger, if my siblings called me stupid, I would report said person to my parents. I am not a parent but a sibling and therefore have no right to meet out punishment against any of my siblings or peers. I was raised that way and continue to live that way to this day.

4. As a teenager, I may have. Can't quite remember when, but I probably may have during my rebellion stage or something. Anyways, back to the issue at hand...

KosiGee:
■ I think you as a teacher should address their problems right there. Call them together, listen to their issues/complaints…make the aggressor or the student using such language understand that’s it’s wrong. Ask him/her to apologise…they should make up before leaving your presence.....

... given your response to the first question, if a student called you stupid, would you then take it on yourself to flog/assault the student even after the example you laid out above to the other student on how to handle similar situation?

valentineuwakwe:
■Spare the rod and spoil the child!

The rod was likely used on the approximately 150 million adults in Nigeria. How come they turned out the specimen of humans that Nigeria is filled with today?

mhiztaNexy:
■ So dumb of you to think it's a Nigerian mantra.
■ PROPER ASS WHOOPING ISN'T NOT VIOLENCE BUT CORRECTION METHOD/ DISCIPLINE USED IN EVERY PART OF THE WORLD.
■ Look at the western culture you are promoting, it bred the stupid woke virus that's killing them.
■ Violence is kids carrying weapons to school to kill other children because of emotional imbalance and lack of proper home training.
■ The other rubbish you typed is a result of greed, bad governance and corruption. It doesn't connect to the main topic in anyway. Spill it in the politics section or shut the F up.

1. Comprehension dey elude you?

2. In every part of which world? The world inside of your head abi which one?

3. And here is your showcasing the very dearth of critical reasoning ability among Nigerians I was referring to earlier. That Woke virus you are so afraid of is the reason why many Nigerians today would gladly — and have been doing so en masse by the way— to those Western countries where those Western cultures are more tolerant and accepting of them than their papa/mama land ever was and could be in their lifetime. You can't see this because obviously, you are too blind to see what has been right in front of you all this while. The terrible consequences of our ways of raising children in Nigeria... is the nation that is Nigeria today... a nation where the people would rather brave the desert and swim the deep sea to escape to the Western countries with their Western cultures and Woke life.

4. Western culture does not tolerate violence. Hence the reason why kids who resort to violence in schools are adequately punished by the Law and system in their countries. In those countries the Law works and the people respect and do all that is necessary to ensure it is upheld no matter who violates it.

5. See this one! So the reason why over 150 million Nigerian adults living in Nigeria honoring their oppressors by doing absolutely nothing to get rid of them, all at the same time seeing absolutely nothing wrong in attacking the weak and the poor when they can get the upper hand over them, is not to be blamed at all? It is the greedy politicians who are to blame for all of Nigeria's problems? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Topic? You claimed Spare the Rod And Spoil the child but Nigeria is a clear example of how using the Rod produces nothing but a nation of millions of incapable, majorly corrupt, and morally bankrupt people lacking critical reasoning skills and ability to chart a meaningful future for themselves and their society as a whole.

spiceadole:
It's the same thing everywhere..not just private schools...
That's why patients and their relatives disrespect and assault doctors,nurses and other staff in private hospitals and they are pampered by the owners.
The MDs of private hospitals ALWAYS take sides with their patients and their relatives.
Everybody is doing business.
Instead of complaining,find a way to enter govt work or quit Teaching completely.
Afterall,the aim is to make money.
Good luck

Enter government work where's he can be the one assaulting and oppressing ordinary Nigerians instead, abi? .

Teymanhenry:
✓ How can you monitor/make a JSS3 student eat his lunch. This is bullshit

If you have ever worked cafeteria duty, you would know how. There is nothing Bullsheety about it as these are in fact things that Are done in many schools around the world as we speak. 😁

mhiztaNexy:
✓ I know people like you that's why I'm not stressing. You are far from reality and the internet is the only place you can portray your stupidity. Just keep at it and don't bring it to the real world. Western culture advocate. Your offerings grow up to be like the house of rep member that harassed the uber driver because they were not properly raised.
Leave the rod and spoil the stupid child!

So, the reality of Nigeria where over 150 million people who were raised in compliance with your spare the rod and spoil the child mantra...

✓ people who are devoid of understanding of their rights and laws
✓ people who lack ability to critically reason and solve even the smallest of problems like water supply, erosion and even sewage management..
✓ people who lack near adequate social and emotional intelligence believing that violence against the weaker beings is the way to garner respect
✓ people who lack the guts to stand for what is right but would rather stand on. The side of their oppressors...
...you conveniently and completely ignore. All this in order that you can , against common sense itself, continue to assert that foolishness of the past be maintained? Are you sure you are OK?

mhiztaNexy:
✓ You are so stupid and irredeemable 😂.

Your choice there to remain in denial of the facts before you point to you as the irredeemable one in this case. 😁

You couldn't directly counter any of the statements I made nor could you answer the question asked. So you took to attacking me thinking by that lesser being approach you could maybe score yourself a ghost win. that is what stewpid is. 😁

bitbillionaire:
✓ I would say the school policies regarding such situation matter though. But ideally it shouldn't be condoned. Dismissal of the student from the school is in order

huh Dismiss a student for calling a teacher stewpid? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😀

You have never raised children before, have you?

mhiztaNexy:
✓ Terrible school owners and terrible parents are the only ones derailing the thread/CS. One ode keeps saying western country 😂. Whiteman ass licker, we are in Nigeria, Africa! We have our own culture and how we raise our kids. Pikin wey em no train from home go chop better training outside bitterly.
✓ Take your kids to the market or any public place and tell them to call anyone older than them "stupid" and see if they won't give you are your silly brats reorientation.

You mean how you were able to raise a nation of over 150 million people who are utterly useless against a minority 0.0001 % kakistocrats?

You mean how Nigerians parents raised a nation of over 150 million grown individuals who lack ability to critically reason their way out of problems that have been solved 1000s of times over in other climes?

You mean how Nigerians parents raised a nation of over 150 million grown individuals whose don't understand their rights and their own laws? The vast majority take the law into their own hands on a regular basis when it comes to bullying those weaker than them then turn around and wonder why crime is so rampant at all levels of the society.

You mean how Nigerians parents raised a nation of over 150 million grown individuals whose social and emotional intelligence levels leaves so much to be desired? ...

I can continue....but come on! Are you really this obtuse with all that is happening before you in Nigeria?

2. So, if a child is assaulted for calling someone stupid, you don't know that it is in fact a crime and the one who assaulted said child is open to being committed to jail term and maybe also a fine?

BafanaBafana:
■ So a child calls an elder stupid, not just any elder but a mentor and you see nothing wrong with it?
■ Thank God you are not my relative and I wouldn't have to interact with the mess of a children you will raise. Even kids in western worlds are punished when they err.

If you believe it is so wrong, then why couldn't you straight up answer the question? What are you afraid of? Answer the question!

Kids in the Western world are punished how and by whom? I am hoping you will answer this question too. So, be brave and answer the question.

Taiwo20:
Save some money! Look online for positions abroad. Mathematics Teacher are always needed. Try the US job site. E.g Milwaukee Public Schools. Some of these positions come with Visa sponsorship

U.S. Job site? Are you kidding? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dude is not happy that he cannot have his way with the kids and you think sending him to the U.S. looking for a job is the way to go? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

bitbillionaire:
■ The way some of you reason is so painfully idiotic I am sometimes tempted to wonder if God used different materials to create brains for certain people.
A student who suppose to be respecting his teacher insult the teacher by calling her stupid and you are saying all this rubbish?

If the student does not give you the respect you feel you deserve — assuming a student calls you stupid—, what do you think you can or should legally do about that?

nurseafrica1:
Seeing all the responses here . I am scared for our future. Have we become this bad. I think private education is very bad for the future of our nation. Like WTF. We are raising a nation of stupid and extremely entitled fools called children.
Boss plan your way out and leave the job

You have already more than done that millions of times over. Nigeria is a country with over 150 million stewpid and extremely foolish people already. Open your eyes! Yes, from the time of our ancestors, Nigerian parents have been busy raising foolish and stewpid people and that is why Nigeria is where it is today. You might balk against this and even say it cannot happen to you but the proof is in the pudding. That nation that is Nigeria is populated by people who are some of the most stewpid, most foolish, and most incompetent of the people in the world. That has already happened, and Nigeria is proof of this.

It is time to raise children a lot different from the way we were raised... if Nigeria is to move forward, we have to abandon the old senseless ways to adopt better and more meaningful ways.

akinsmyk:
■....As a man I find it unserious for a male to think he’s at the right place as a teacher more so a private school teacher. If you love teaching that much, get a government job or start your own school. There are so much more you can do and achieve out there. I am trained teacher and even though I like the profession, it can’t pay my bills. You will only live a contented and average life as a teacher and not as much you’ve always dream....

1. That mentality alone reveals you as a very unserious person. For you think or conclude that teaching should be left to females alone speaks volumes of everything that is so wrong with the Nigerian mentality towards teaching and teachers as a whole.

No point reading on after that point...

donmik:
■ In my own case, I must pay myself. Even on kicking against that, some staff kicked against me just cos I am a new staff there or that I am not their tribal person or they felt showing respect to them meant fear of them. I never see in my life in this country o. Some staff have sworn to be slave to employers forever

I would honestly suggest that you please keep looking for a new job and get out as soon as you can. No business person has a right to take advantage of his employees in any way. It is against Labor laws and your employer could be fined and forced to compensate you as well if you were to report it. I would never advise anyone to submit to such treatment under any circumstances, even though I understand how hard it may be to find new employment in Nigeria at this point in time.

Please, log every call and how long it lasts in a book of your own. So that should you, maybe after you have left the school, decide to lodge complaints against the employee and get your money back, you have a detailed record to back up your demand.

Donaldoni:
■ Is your head correct at all
■ If a student steals another student's property, the offender should not be punished immediately
■ If a student physically bullies another, the offender should not be punished immediately
■ If a student sexually abuses another, the offender should not be punished immediately
Etc Etc
■ Punishment must be meted out and then the parents can be informed thereafter.

The problem here is you folks don't answer questions when asked and you fail when asked to reason things critically....

► Stealing is a legal offense. So, tell us, who is legally required to handle such a situation and dole out punishment in that case?
► Yet another legal offense! So, tell us, who is legally required to handle such a situation and dole out punishment in that case?
► Yet another legal offense! So, tell us, who is legally required to handle such a situation and dole out punishment in that case?

Legal offenses such as the ones listed above are NOT for the school to handle. Your principal, by law, does not have the right to take it upon himself to handle the third case at all. He can attempt to handle the first ONLY IF his parents have permitted him to do so. Otherwise, he could be charged to court by the parents and that would not bode well for him or his school. As for the second and third cases, the school is required by law to inform the parents and get the authorities involved as the law is clear on the above crimes.

4. Now you are just talking jargon at this point! The Law in Nigeria is pretty clear on what must take place in any of the cases you noted above. But you seem to disagree with the law here suggesting instead that somehow your teachers should take the law into their own hands to prosecute the cases without the guardian being notified before what has taken place. And we wonder why many Nigerians don't know or follow their law nor know their left from their right as far as the law of the land is concerned.

Donaldoni:
■ You are still saying NONSENSE. Why the parents send the child to school

I send children to school every morning here. I don't send them there to be punished by their teachers but rather for the teachers to train them. When kids do something wrong at school, the school may penalize them but the parents are responsible for doling out punishment they feel is most appropriate for the kids. That is one of the reasons why the school calls home immediately to report the situation to the parents. Rather than take it into their hands to decide for themselves.

If you still can't seem to comprehend what I have been saying all this while, then I am afraid I can't help you at all.

Trophy12:
Oga leave the school. Where I once teach I flog a student for over bad behavior the father came the second day begin fight me .

If the father never agreed that you could ASSAULT his child— I believe many states are already declaring assault of that kind a crime at this point— then you are in the wrong for doing that. If that man had filed assault charges against you with the police, not even the principal of that school would have been able to help you.

Myrrhis:
■ What is the point of this question? Why are you hellbent on putting the blame on the op?

Care to provide me an answer to the question yourself? There is a reason to be discovered from answering the question.

Donaldoni:
■ Why then did you say he should not punish the student

Try to pay attention, please!

The teacher shouldn't punish the student. It is rather the parents who decide what punishment the students should get and when. Not the teacher who can only penalize the kids for wrongdoing.

VinnyBaba:
■ Brotherly, the World has changed and as a Smart person, You must change with the times. If you are Opportuned to teach in a school of Wizkid, Davido, Tiwa Savage, etc children and they insult you, will you really be able to discipline them in a Pattern you would want? You will be Forced to look for Softer styles of Discipline. That's is the Point KoboJunkie is trying to make.

That na where you go see say all of this supposed concern for kids wey these ones wey call themselves teachers claim dem get na all talk and nothing but talk..... hypocritical model teachers are they and nothing more. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Dem no born am well to lift finger against any of those children even if dem throw sheet their way. Na only where poor people children dey dem dey like flex muscles. Sort of like bullies if you ask me. 😂😂😂😂😂

sprints1:
■ that's why we have generation of weaklings spare the rod and spoil the child. A child does a wrong thing and we should leave the child to rot.
■ I think schools should be closed down and parents should teach their children themselves.
■ I am tired discussing the progress of education with people who are hellbent on western culture and discipline on how to raise a child. That is why we have children abroad who know dictate to parents that they want their gender reassigned at tender ages. You are not a teacher so you would know how naive and uncultured these gen alphas are. Some lack common basic home training and you expect the to be tolerated everywhere. The solution is clear. Parents should home school their chikdren. We will always survive regardless if one road is broken there is always another way out.

I don't think you even see what is right in front of your eyes all this while.

Using the rod is why Nigeria as a country is where it is today with over 150 million adults afraid to stand up against the barely 20,000 ruining their lives and destroying the future of their children. You have millions on whom this so-called rod was used who turned out wicked incompetent individuals incapable of running their communities and society at the local, state, and even national levels. An entire nation of over 200 million people without the critical, emotional, and social intelligence necessary to capably lead and rule over themselves...this is the result of all your "Spare the rod and spoil the child" campaigns from the time of your ancestors. Yet you are blindly suggesting the same even after all of this?

2. And what should happen when there are no parents to teach kids? The kids should be allowed to freely roam without Education? Please cut the bull!

3. But you have not discussed anything about the progress of education. I am not a teacher by profession but I regularly teach kids without needing to lift even a finger against them. I do this every day. The priority is to raise mentally stable, socially and emotionally intelligent children who understand how to abide by the law in whatever it is they do and pursue. How many of those have been raised in your Nigerian schools, for example?

being:
■ So they should continue pampering and spoiling the kids right?
■ if that woman is not careful, she will.produce failures in mass from her school.
@OP, u should for other schools to.teach! that's not a workable school system. it will soon implode educationally and disciplinewise

1. OP works at a private school and unless that school directly violates any standards set by the Ministry of Education, OP can do nothing but abide by School rules. That is why I continue to insist that he consult the school rule book in everything he does. The parents signed off on that when they enrolled their kids in the school. So for OP to go against the school policy may result in criminal charges against his person depending on the situation.

2. It is her school. I already made suggestions to OP on how he could go about getting the school to change things but he is not interested.

sprints1:
■ not all teachers are half-baked some of us developed ourselves and we value our integrity. I find homeschooling a positive way helping kids in this modern day. I think the traditional teaching method is frustrating. But I am educationist. Are we really teaching these students or indoctrinating them with useless ideas they won't need. I have learnt a lot after learning from a group called revival of wisdom. I think so far a child is able to comprehend and do basic summation and difference the rest is bullshiiit

Nigerian schools along with the vast majority of Nigerian teachers are clearly in terrible straits. The entire educational system should be overhauled at this point as what is clear.

sprints1:
■ private school in Lagos when a fellow teacher who does lesson for a child because I beat a boy who was negligent and spoilt the stupid teachers in that school called me to apologize to the child. After forcing me and the teachers started acting weird had to use one teacher's phone I was close with who was his former class teacher to state the reason why I beat the child in short I had to apologize after massive pressure what do I know then I thought money was everything. The boy saw me the following day and told me I told my parents I have forgiven you. I shock. I happy I left there.
■ Teaching is worse than being a cleaner imagine a graduate treated like mopstick. I faced a lot of disgusting things as class teacher in Lagos. When I see parents of wards I see them like dog shiits... I currently teach in another school but I have vowed never to relate with any parent. Sometimes I no dey greet them. Useless bunch of millennial parents my generation is the worst parents have seen the and Gen X

1. Your fellow teacher had absolutely no right to ASSAULT a child. You assault any child— except for case of self-defense—, you should be jailed

2. Teaching is not for everyone. Only those with the right temperament, and emotional and social intelligence levels should be allowed to teach abeg!

mikkyangel3:
Na mumu dey send their children to Nigerian schools. Get their syllabus, get Starlink, Home school your kids. If you leave your children's education to half-baked, poorly-paid, frustrated Nigerian teachers? Oyo is your casel.

I expected that homeschooling would have caught on by now given the terrible state of schooling in Nigeria but unfortunately, Nigerian parents don't even see that as something at all.

NiceLegs:
I am a Teacher. I have a Bachelors Degree (B.Sc) in Geography and Planning. I have experience teaching in both Primary and Secondary School. I am also very skilled at teaching Maths at Primary and Junior Secondary level. But the day I left teaching in Nigeria was the day my life changed.
A time is coming soon when Parents will end up leaving their jobs to stay back at home to teach their own children by themselves because there would be noone to teach your kids. I can just imagine Baba Femi who doesnt know Maths atall struggling to teach his 10yrs old son Mathematics. Mark my words. I'm out.

Teachers are essential in every society. The Nigerian problem is that many who are into teaching are there for the wrong reasons, and those of them who are there for the right reasons — because they love teaching and have a true passion for training the future generation — do not get the respect they deserve from those in the establishment and the entire education system itself(not the kids). And this is where having teacher's unions in each district — for private and for public schools — would make a whole lot of sense and go a long way in bringing some sanity into all of this.

Overmars36:
■ Ur busybody is just too much. U be woman? Na ur Papa frustrate OP na. Seems you're just jobless

**Yawn***

Overmars36:
■ Na ur papa frustrate am?

Are you dense? Of course, OP is frustrated! That much is outright clear from his OP there.

He believes all he holds to he does so because he cares about the kids when in fact he does not care as much as he lets on. He is more interested in a situation that works at his level of social and emotional intelligence rather than that which is more logical as it should be in a school setting.