₦airaland Forum

id911:
■ I don't expect you to know and I don't think you have a copy of your constitution to know anything inside there. Nigeria is the only country operating a Federal system upside down largely aided by ignorant people like you. SMH!

Do you know what federalism entails yourself? Because your initial claim which I pointed out is flawed reveals you are instead one of those ignorant of what federalism is in fact about.

Saintzykie:
✓ Apologies. Quoted the wrong statement.

Ok

Saintzykie:
■ Its really sad… sometimes we argue with a flawed logic just because someone wants to sound intelligent. If the states take allocation from the federal government and then members of the national assembly are drawn from the states then I wonder what we are even arguing. If the National assembly can't make laws for the entire federation then of or for what purpose do they exist?

Can you go back through your post to be sure you have it all worded correctly? I am having a really hard time understanding what you are asking altogether.

money121:
39yrs Ago
25ltr = #5

More importantly, as far back as that time you could get a receipt for your purchase. Nigeria made sense until it stopped making sense and this mostly happened during IBB's Shege period.

id911:
✓ EFCC is a Federal Agency and if we are truely running a Federal System of government,they have no right to look into the finances of States except they're invited by the state concerned. The ACT that created EFCC was not approved by any state in Nigeria (2/3 of states is needed) as specified by the constitution and so their activities are illegal and unconstitutional. ICPC is a legal entity while EFCC is an illegal entity.
The Supreme Court is corrupt because ultimately they'll rule in favor of EFCC and Federal Government against the clear provisions of the constitution.

What you stated here makes no sense as in a federal system, the FG instead has jurisdiction over all citizens including those of them who occupy offices in government.

The way Nigerians rush to adopt misinformation even in this information age that we live in is very disturbing.

MEEVEET:
■ There was no national Assembly when police was created... The police is order than the national Assembly

The Nigeria you have today began the moment that the 1999 democratic Constitution was enacted, I am afraid. Yes, All previous agencies were subsumed based on that defined in the Constitution itself or laws enacted by the National Assembly. It is hard to imagine yes, but it is what it is. The reformed Police have in place many of the hierarchies of old still. However, this does not mean that the police are exactly the same as that existed before the 1999 Constitution became the Supreme Law of the land.

For instance, you cannot say that because Nigeria existed before 1999, you should go back to 1960 to find laws to apply today. No, you first find more recent laws that apply before you go looking for old laws in the case that no recent laws have been enacted in the particular area of concern.

MEEVEET:
✓ Nigerian police is a national Institute just like the national assembly too

All agencies created by the National Assembly as Federal/National agencies if we are to follow the definition you gave earlier though. So you need to be more specific as far as this difference you pretend you can make between them.

MEEVEET:
✓ Oga u can amen d rules of a national body by an act
Sure u can amend the rules of the national Assembly by an act. But to create a 3rd national Assembly you can't do that by an act u need a constitutional amendment
✓ There is a huge difference between amendment Act and constitutional amendment

The National Assembly is defined in the Constitution so you cannot create a second or a third National Assembly without first amending or better still overhauling the entire Constitution itself.

2. We are not talking here or agencies that were established by the Constitution but rather of agencies/policies that were established by way of acts created by the National Assembly and signed into Law by the President. So, try to pay attention to your use of terms.

MEEVEET:
■ Amendment Act not creation very different thing oga

I don't understand what you mean at all.

Acts are used in creating or reforming governmental organizations/agencies/policies. Created entities can be amended or reformed. Each has to be signed into law to take effect. The Acts I listed earlier are all signed into law and so we have them today as the foundation on which the agencies each operate.

MEEVEET:
■ Which act created the Nigerian police force? Something that predate states in Nigeria
■ Hey did FRSC lose to Lagos then

The Nigerian Police Force(which includes EFCC, DSS, Customs, Border Control, etc.) currently operates according to the Police Act 2020.

2. You have to explain what you mean. What do you mean when you say FRSC lost to Lagos?

MEEVEET:
✓ Nah

You should take time to review these things for yourself so you understand that all of the agencies that make up your government both at the National, state and local levels are actually enacted via acts.

NAFDAC ACT Cap N.1 LFN 2004
Police Act 2020
EFCC Act 2002(Amended in 2004)
Federal Inland Revenue Service (ESTABLISHMENT) Act, 2007
Customs, Excise Tariff, Etc. (Consolidation) Act
...

Stop feeding on the gobbledegook fed to the public by propagandists in Nigeria who only play tunes to suit the narrative of their particular paymasters.

MEEVEET:
Nigeria is made up of 3 levels of government (2 and half if we are sincere)
Federal, state and Local government
Federal agencies are for federal government
National agency are owned by the whole nation
Nigerians police
Nigerian custom
Nigerian immigration Services
Nigerian quarantine serive
Nafdac
Federal agencies are like FIRS, federal road safety,
The argument is EFCC is a federal agencie since it was an act that created it
For you to create a national agency it must be through Constitutional amendment which requires state House of assembly too
Let's see supreme Court interpretation
For now all this is argument

Every single one of those agencies in bold were created by Acts as well. So, can you be more specific regarding the difference between National agencies and Federal Agencies.

MEEVEET:
■ I think the Case has merit. EFCC is a federal agency not a national agency. So them looking at the finance of state makes no sense. The law is clear .. It's similar to FRSC and Lagos equivalent. Only if state invite EFCC should they come. 99% of the cases EFCC treat are state case not federal case

Where do you get this statement that EFCC is a federal agency and not a national agency from? I mean what is the difference between the two ideas you expressed?

MEEVEET:
Lmao reserve judgment means we have a ruling but let's consult the political elites. When the judiciary of a country is captured there is no Hope for that country

Just imagine! This case should have been thrown out in a sane country but the more you consider the Judiciary in Nigeria, the more you understand why the country is in fact in shambles.

GreatAchiever1:
■ What you're trying to say or the premise for your argument is that Christians should forgo the old testament and the epistles and just read the gospels as well as the red letters which is nonsensical by the way.
The whole of the bible (66 books of the bible) is God's word to us and Christians ought to live by it in order to live in accordance of His will and in Godliness.
2. Except if what I just wrote is not supported in the Bible, your argument makes no sense in the Christian life.

Christians and their confusion abounds!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

1. First, this isn't about reading a book but about living/following ideas. Second, the book you call your Bible IS NOT God's Word — the various authors in the many books, including the Gospels, made this clear actually. The Word of God is instead the Word out of God's very own Mouth... Jesus Christ Himself is recorded to have said this — this is written in the Gospels. What comes out of the Mouth of God is not this book that was written by the hands of humans in human-fashioned language with paper, ink, and glue made by human hands to be comprehended by human thought.

Third, Jesus Christ of Israel warned His followers not to have one foot in the Old Law and the other foot in the new Law as it would lead one to a disastrous end, He said. But you Christians live against Jesus Christ and so cannot be expected to accept this, right? 😂😂😂😂😂

2. Everything you wrote has no logical connection to the Scriptures.

Gadafii:
Same word bank that asked Nigerians to wait for 15 years before his economic policies start bearing fruits


Nonsense and world bank and imf, na Dem go still give tpain loan, instead make Dem blacklist Nigeria and prevent her and her wicked leaders from accessing loans from anywhere in the world

engage your brain for once!

@Raccoon, I finally got block of the event in the following video. If you wish to skip through most of the interview, you can go straight to start from 17:26 to listen again to what Jamie Dimon said about investors and investment in Subsaharan Africa. Investors behind those World Bank loans want assurance that their money will be paid back over time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXHSNslOL_U

tofolo:
Prison dealt with him.

No such thing! That man does not look like someone who spent time in a regular Nigerian prison.

viqSmallz:
✓ This man was a potential governor of Kano, he had the charisma for a northerner and was very vocal. Hope he learnt his lessons though.
He will contest and most likely be supported by people.

Una no tire to chop charisma abeg?

Why in the world any sane people elect a convicted criminal into office to rule over them? Are you people ok at all? You see clearly what all the others you have elected this far have done to your lives and futures yet you would continue the same stewpid traditions? Would you also hire a former ped3ofile to babysit your children ?

He go jail abi weight loss camp?

Racoon:
Yet the same world bank or Brentwood institution kept borrowing these kleptomanics neck-constricting loans that they are looting endlessly while they continue to impoverish their nations.

Nigeria has good enough credit rating so why should the World Bank not loan it money?

Here, have a listen to what Jaime Dimon of JP Morgan Chase — one of the investors that supplies the funds for the loans Nigeria gets from the World Bank — had to say about how investors invest their money. Listen between 1:37:07 — 1:39:07 of the following video.
https://www.youtube.com/live/YibCmv8g3kU?si=_Y_Jd_94KSDwYnaK

I could not find the video itself but I found the snippet embedded in the above video. By the way, JP Morgan Chase is one of the investors behind the loans countries can obtain from the World Bank & IMF. There are consumers/investors — not Father Christmas —behind those loans and they too want to be sure they will get their money back in every case.

Pbatmedia:
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Nigerians made a certified fraudster their president and this is the result. All he has to offer are lies and yet more lies. Are the people really not sick of this?

Has anyone been able to confirm this news? Where are the Kwara residents on Nairaland naw!

bixton:
■ When you see posts like this just know that it's been sponsored by the administration to take blame of it's hands and to make it look like they are on the right track.
The world bank is a shitty bank and and can never help any third world nation.
Why can't the world bank advice the Nigerian government to fix their four refineries, steel company, put a stop to gas flaring and invest in use same for power generation, harness coal and use same for power generation as well in the areas it's found in large commercial quantities, etc, etc

Yet this is the same World Bank that Obasanjo used to help Nigeria save billions in the early years of its democracy?

Anyways, Here, have a listen to what Jaime Dimon of JP Morgan Chase — one of the investors that supplies the funds for the loans Nigeria gets from the World Bank — had to say about how investors invest their money. Listen between 1:37:07 — 1:39:07 of the video.
https://www.youtube.com/live/YibCmv8g3kU?si=_Y_Jd_94KSDwYnaK

I could not find the video itself but I found the snippet embedded in the above video. By the way, JP Morgan Chase is one of the investors behind the loans countries can obtain from the World Bank & IMF. There are consumers/investors — not Father Christmas —behind those loans and they too want to be sure they will get their money back in every case.

richmond500:
Abeg, I don't enjoy discussing with children online. Goodnight.

Liar... go hug your paymasters abeg! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

richmond500:
■ u are so delusional, world bank has clarified it and has stressed the issue more than necessary, various news media that gets first-hand knowledge has clarified it.
Abeg just stick to that ur porn Whatsapp group. NL was supposed to have a block button, people with two digit IQ no suppose quote me

See this one who can't even keep up with his lies. Earlier you claimed that you meant the implementation of policies but to date no news outlet has reported on the implementation of any of the policies you yourself have lied about. See yourself! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

See this lying ninny...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

wirinet:
■ Monopolise a product no one else is producing? Shebi the government say Port Harcourt refinery go begin operating this year, abi the billions spent on rehabilitation don waste?
So it is good for Nigeria to continue to spend billions of dollars importing refined petroleum products? Shebi una talk say dollar go come down after we start producing them locally? E be like say una dey enjoy am as dollar done pass N1700.

The fact that no other local companies produce the same product meaning there is no local competition is an even greater argument against this attempt by Dangote as this is all about one producer — one man in a nation of over 220 million Nigerians.

richmond500:
■ The news has always told u with facts what is going on.
■ But u always choose to believe the news u received from that ur Whatsapp group admin

You mean the propaganda machines of your paymasters, right? Anyone who reads Nigeria's news would quickly note that the reports are not all the same on any one issue and if you do additional research of your own... use FOI where possible... you would quickly identify the lies. 😁😁😁😁

2. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Whatsapp groups? I don't belong to any crazy WhatsApp group... better disconnect yourself from all of that brain damage yourself.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

richmond500:
That is what I am saying but with fewer words

You are lying and you know it! 🤔

This current government has yet to implement over 99.99% of the many policies it has signed into law yet you have been jumping from thread to thread claiming it has and they are successes. No be lying dem dey call that kain behavior?

richmond500:
Only good policies will revert the country and not separation.

Correction.... only the successful IMPLEMENTATION of good policies... not good policies alone... will revert the direction of things in the country.

No nation in the world has been able to positively impact the lives of its people by way of AUDIO Policies — policies not followed up with successful implementation.

sulaak:
So, Nigeria must continue importing?

There is nothing wrong with importing fuel. It happens in most countries including European ones were Dangote claims he sends his products. They import, so why can't Nigeria import as well? What Nigeria needs is to push to open up non-oil industries. It's severe dependence on oil alone is what remains the issue even after over 40 years of realizing this.

Handing Dangote a monopoly will not help Nigeria in any way. It is only going to help Dangote's bottom line and this is to the detriment of the Nigerian people and market.

Eteka1:
Most of you shouting monopoly don't understand the implications of continuing importation of petroleum products. 40% of the pressure on forex in Nigeria is for the importation of refined petroleum products
- Dangote currently refines enough products to meet domestic consumption and to spare.
- If Nigeria stops imports of refined petroleum products, the pressure on our forex will be reduced by as much as 40% leading to the massive appreciation of the Naira.
- A barrel of crude oil currently sells for about $80 per barrel. With the exchange rate hovering around N1,700 to a Dollar. When pressure is reduced on our forex as a result of an end to imports of refined products, the Naira can appreciate to about N1000 to a USD. That means refineries in Nigeria will need less Naira to buy each barrel of Crude oil. This will lead to a drop in pump prices and inflation.
- by continuing to issue licences to import refined petroleum products, NNPC is killing our economy. This nonsense has to stop

It is these bullsheet excuses you lot give that need to stop abeg! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄