₦airaland Forum

ShaheedBinAliyu:
➜As expected, ignorant reply.
Islam has been existing from the beginning of the creation. Started with Adam. All those you mentioned stole the practice from Islam

. Yet no one ever heard or breathed anything about Islam until after Mohammed showed off and carried out at least 80 military campaigns (27 of which he took part in), all in a span of the last 23 years of his life, to conquer and force Islam down the throats of people who otherwise would not have considered him much as recorded right there in his Quran and the many Hadiths that accompany it. Come on now! 🥱🥱

ShaheedBinAliyu:
➜Maryam 19:28
يَآأُخۡتَ هَٰرُونَ مَا كَانَ أَبُوكِ ٱمۡرَأَ سَوۡءࣲ وَمَا كَانَتۡ أُمُّكِ بَغِيࣰّا
English - Sahih International
O sister [i.e., descendant] of Aaron, your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste."
English - Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Abridged)
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Cry more and let me keep exposing your ignorance

.⚉ Mary was not a descendant of Aaron, nor is there any record that her mother was a "chaste" woman. 🥱🥱

If you have ever read the Bible, you would know that it doesn't always matter one's lineage, parents, or the supposed chasteness of one's mother when it comes to those who are chosen as righteous by YHWH. (Maybe Mohammed's Allah did not tell him that one of the prophets of YHWH was married by YHWH to a prostitute— she continued prostituting herself even while married to the prophet in question.) But I can tell that, like Mohammed, your ideas about the book's content also come from religious regurgitation. 🥱🥱

OLAADEGBU:
They left a suicide note before jumping from the window one by one. Read more: https://trib.al/CrhexYj

Clearly, there are aspects to this story not included in the brief article. 🥱

The devastated mother and father later found an eight-page suicide note in a pocket diary, which included chilling messages about their love of Korea and their beliefs that their parents were attempting to quell their obsession.
'How will you make us leave Korean? Korean was our life, so how dare you make us leave our life? You didn't know how much we loved them. Now you have seen the proof. Now we are convinced that Korean and K-Pop are our life,' the note read.
'We didn't love you and family as much as we loved the Korean actor and the K-Pop group. Korean was our life.' The girls had even taken on Korean names before their deaths - Cindy, Maria, and Aliza.
An official had earlier said that their father had lately imposed restrictions on the girls' use of mobile phones. They were also said to be obsessed with gaming.

That write-up there reads like children who were terribly unhappy with life and reality. One can only wonder what their truth really was. 🥱

How in the world are those Korean names, for Pete's sake? 🥱

[quote author=CyynthiaKiss post=138369146]

Auchi community has taken a stand against Idol worshipping. Idol worshipping does not have a stand in this community. We are for Allah, the Lord of mankind. Allah alone we worship.” - Man reacts as a Shrine gets destroyed in Auchi pic.twitter.com/o6wxo7KGOd

— TENIOLA (@Teeniiola) February 3, 2026

! All those responsible should be arrested and charged for arson and damage of property. If you don't like what your neighbor is doing...turn your face and attention elsewhere. No human has right to decide for others how they can or should live their lives. 🥱

By the way, OP, what evidence do you have to back up the suggestion that this is related to Christians. Last I checked, there isn't just one shrine in that community.🥱🥱

seyicodes:
50 Modern Forms of Shirk
A. Shirk in Duʿā’ & Worship (Major Shirk)
1. Calling upon the dead for help
2. Praying to prophets, saints, or “holy men”
3. Asking angels for protection or provision....

5 times each day, Mohammedians pray to Mohammed's corpse, believing him for intercession daily. Christians worship Jesus as the most perfect human who ever lived. The Quran says that Mohammed is the most perfect that every Mohammedian should like, and the role model for humanity, explaining the reason why he is worshipped by Mohammedians. Mohammed also required that Mohammedians make intercession to him if they are to reach Allah— Mohammed is the middle man between Mohammedians and Allah. (No Mohammedian can direct their prayer directly to Allah without invoking the name of Mohammed.) Yet, is it shirk to worship the man or pray to the dead(Mohammed has been dead for over 1400 years, yet Mohammedians pray to his corpse every day)? 🤔🤔

2. Mohammedians kiss and rub the black stone of the Kaaba, a remnant from its pagan past, during the annual Hajj, believing the stone would stand as a witness to their worship on the last day.🤔

Seems you need to rewrite that list that you have there. 🥱🥱

Ovieemmanuel:
➜Irreversibility: It should be considered permanent, as reversals are complex, expensive, and not always successful source google

Stop making noise! Are reversals more expensive than raising children you cannot afford? Nonsense!🥱🥱

https://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/reversing-a-vasectomy

ShaheedBinAliyu:
✓ Your first sentence proved your ignorance is extremely loud.

Talking to you is like talking to a wall

Don't run away yet. How does the statement prove my supposed ignorance? 🤔🤔

triplechoice:
➜What do you know about this person to know his mother never got help to "raise" him as a newborn baby?.
Our mothers know it's dangerous to leave a first-time mother alone with a newborn. It's for this reason we have cultural practices like "Omugwo" so an experienced mother or close relative can stay temporarily to provide critical care and assistance during the most vulnerable period of a baby's life..
This young man, aware he lacks the experience to provide that care, is wisely calling for help to prevent the baby from suffering, and he's willing to pay for it.
Yet people like you, for some strange reason, insist he do it himself. Do you want the baby to suffer the more, or even die, just so you can later blame him for failing at a task he was set up to fail?. That is not empathy. It's cruelty.
We're talking about a newborn, not a 3- year old who can walk and talk. Can you name one first-time mother in this country, or anywhere, who raised her newborn completely alone without any temporary help. You can't.
Even your own mother, when she had you certainly had help from her mother, mother-in-law or a close relative. She did not do it alone. Unless you're prepared to lie about that, your argument crumples. If you insist she did, then sorry to say, she acted irresponsibly by putting your life in severe danger.
A newborn needs all the care in the world to help its fragile brain develop in a way that will not impact its mental health later. And that care can only come from an experienced hand, which is why I believe this young man is begging for help. He is aware of his limitations, which is the first sign of a responsible parent. The baby's constant crying is toxic stress for its development.

Could you ever quit with the useless storytelling? 🥱🥱🥱

ShaheedBinAliyu:
➜ Like I said, you ignorance is very loud.. . You are just talking without proofs.
Well, Qur'an has explained everything. Grab a Qur'an, read suratul Maryam.
➜ Once again, your ignorance is screaming Pagan practices in Islam? Laughing
➜ Muhammad was converted by Christians.. laughing out loud. So Muhammad was originally a what? Before he was converted to Christian.. and then he became a Muslim? Laughing
➜ If anything you want to say about Islam.. you can't quote Qur'an or hadiths to support your claim, it's all going into dustbin. How on earth you want to talk about Islam and Muhammad and you won't quote a single Qur'an verse or hadiths? Laughing. . Till you get sense.. then quote me
➜ If you don't know the reason why shia and sunni are at war with each other, as expected, you can't understand why catholic and Protestants and Jehovah Witness are at war with eachother. You even say the difference between Jehovah witness and Catholic is not much? Who the hell is this kid saying nonsense lol

1. That Chapter in your Quran contains one of the most ignorant errors that condemns the books more as a book of made-up tales than anything else. 🥱🥱

Miriam, sister of Aaron and daughter of Imran, has nothing to do with Christianity or Jesus. How a so-called all-knowing Mohammed Allah could have missed that is astounding. 🥱🥱

2. Yes, there are lots of pagan origins to your traditions in Islam.
⚉ Your Kaaba was a house of idols that once housed the same black stone, which is still worshipped by Mohammedians.
⚉ Your Hajj, Prayer rituals, including your ablution traditions, Ramadan,etc, are traditions taken from the pagan tradition of the people around the area, notably the Sabeans, who are recognized in your Quran
⚉ Even your myths, including the idea that when you sleep you die -- Allah takes your soul and returns it until he no longer does -- is taken from Talmudic and Mishna pages.
⚉ Even Mohammed's suggestion that his followers chop their mustaches is associated with the negative emotions he has when visited by two Zoroastrians. Their tradition is to keep their mustache, so Mohammed decided to have his own people chop off their mustache to set themselves apart from the Zoroastrians. 😂
Many aspects of Islam are copied over from traditions that existed before the book, the Quran, was compiled. And many were pagan in origin. 🥱🥱

2. We don't know that Mohammed underwent a formal conversion, but what is clear is that Mohammed was not against taking Christian ideas and adding them to his own religious ideas. One could even argue that th moment Mohammed decided to take advice from a Christian regarding the identity of the demon he supposedly encountered in the cave, he may have sealed his journey down the rabbit hole that is Christianity as the origin for his ideas.😂😂

4. All that associates Islam with paganism are found in the Quran and Hadiths. The Chapter on Mariam, Mohammed's rebranding of the Kaaba, Mohammed's encounter with the Zoroastrians, Mohammed's entanglements with the Sabeans, the Jews, and the Christians... they are all taken from the Quran and the Hadiths. 🥱

5. Those differences have nothing to do with this topic. 🥱🥱🥱

ShaheedBinAliyu:
✓ So Christianity was originally a sect from Jewish religion (moses) abi? Lol

Wrong! Christianity is not based on Moses. Rather, it claims to be associated from a non-israelites stance to Jesus, same was Mohammed also attempts to associate his idea to Jesus. 🥱🥱

Try to keep up instead of attempting to take the argument in circles. 🥱🥱

Ovieemmanuel:
Bros do make u remove your balls. Una go just dey talk anyhow. Shey wen u remove am u can put am back abi?

Vasectomies are considered reversible. And the procedure is considered safe. 🥱

Probz:
✓ Because that’s generally how discussion-forums work.

Those who know nothing about a place would blindly jump in to comment? 🥱🥱

Probz:
Thought it would be interesting to strike off a topic on this considering the matrilineal nature of their clans. What's the status and role of women in that side of ala Igbo?

You came up with the topic so why are you asking us? 🥱🥱

mikejones07:
➜How am I suppose to know the contraceptive implant will fail.
➜ She has been on the contraceptive implant for the last 3 years and it was working fine until now We did take some precautions.
➜ When you say getting an abortions will impact her body can you expatiate on this, abortion is legal over here? Before we had her two boys her first three pregnancies were lost and we did have an abortion to take out the gestation sack

. She had to get a contraceptive implant? Sigh!

If you had listened carefully to your doctor or whoever put the implant in her, or at least read the package that came with the implant, you would have realized the implant does not come with a 100% guarantee, meaning that probably using condoms would have helped save you from this situation. 🥱🥱

2. You took what precautions? Did you yourself have to take a hit, or was it your woman who had to handle the logistics of the so-called precautions?

3. WOW! That they are legal does not mean they are 100% safe. I suggest you take time to learn exactly the amount of risk your wife has had to put her body through with the abortions she has had to have, and then this one you want her to get. 🥱🥱

She has 3 failed pregnancies and is now expecting a third child? Maybe she is trying to get back all those children she lost. Did you, after each flushing, at least ensure she went in for mental health counseling to help her properly mourn and process the loss of all 3 failed pregnancies. 🤔🤔

mikejones07:
➜I do not want another child because of the financial, emotional, and mental strain it would place on me. I am 39 years old, and my wife is 33. Being pregnant will also make it even more difficult for her to find employment, she I have been encouraging her to. At the moment, I am fully responsible for all household expenses, including rent, utilities, and food. Throughout our ten years together, I've carried 100% of the financial burden and was happy doing so, even during the times she was working. I never pressured her or asked for anything in return We live in a rented basement and have no support system in this new country—all our family members are back home. When I asked her to explain her reasons for wanting to keep the baby, just emotions and wanting to have a baby girl. She even requested a scan picture of the fetus afterwards we saw a radiographer. Pushing for an appointment
➜ I strongly believe in being able to adequately provide for my children, including their future education, whether college or medical school. Adding another child would significantly increase the pressure on me and delay any sense of financial stability or retirement. I am content with the two sons we have and feel that another child would limit my ability to be fully present and supportive for them.
➜ When I shared my concerns and mentioned the possibility of an abortion, my wife became very upset and started crying. I am worried that pressuring her could lead to resentment, and I do not want to force her into a decision. At the same time, I feel that my situation and perspective are not being fully considered.
➜ I am struggling to find a way for her to truly understand my point of view while also respecting her feelings, and I am unsure what the best next step should be. I love my wife but this is too much on me.

1. You had all of these many reasons, yet you did not consider getting a vasectomy or at least ensure you used protection every time you had sex as a result?

2. You knew all of this, yet you did nothing to protect the future you supposedly want for them? 🥱🥱

3. Well, getting an abortion would impact her body and mind in many ways. But I guess that all means little to you since the reason why you did not bother using protection yourself or getting a vasectomy to preserve your dreams is that you reasoned your body would not need to deal with any of the impacts if pregnancy happened, right? 🥱🥱

4. Seems you love everybody, but seem unwilling to do even the bare minimum, which is maybe to use protection yourself or get a vasectomy to protect anybody. Goodluck! 🥱🥱

honesttalk21:
➜You repeat you argument which I earlier faulted. Shape-based comparisons and unproven assumptions rather than historical evidence do not improve your stance. The structure known as Ka‘ba-ye Zartosht indeed predates Islam, but it functioned as a stone tower at a royal necropolis rather than a pilgrimage site; archaeological research reveals no signs of ritual activity, idols, or ongoing religious use. Its continued existence resulted from abandonment, not active worship, and the name was assigned centuries after the advent of Islam, based solely on its appearance.
➜ In contrast, the Kaaba in Mecca was recognized in pre-Islamic Arabia as a pilgrimage shrine, mentioned in early poetry and traditions.
➜ Islam did not create this structure; it transformed its corrupted polytheistic use by removing idols while preserving the site representing a reform of function to the original rather than an inheritance of belief.
➜ There are no historical records indicating that Muhammad pbuh destroyed multiple
Kaabas as a category of buildings. Pre-Islamic Arabia contained various shrines and temples but lacked standardized Kaabas. You share no reference to your contrary view.
➜ Claims about the Black Stone are mischaracterized. Islam does not regard the Black Stone as an object of worship, traditional Islamic texts clearly indicate that the Stone neither brings benefits nor causes harm.
➜ The accusation of rebranding misinterprets Islamic theology. Islam did not promote a major god from an existing pantheon; it explicitly denied the entire pantheon. Keeping a structure while renouncing its cult does not equate to fusion or alliance.
➜ Grooming practices mentioned in hadith serve as markers of social identity rather than indicators of theological origins or architectural continuity. Dress and grooming help distinguish communities everywhere; they do not determine the source of beliefs.

1. Seems you desperately want us to believe that no one visited what was a temple dedicated to the Zoroastrian religion in Persia.

The Ka'ba-ye Zartosht (Cube of Zoroaster), a 5th-century BCE, 2,500-year-old stone structure at Naqsh-e Rustam, Iran, has an uncertain, debated function. The most prominent theories suggest it served as a Zoroastrian fire temple or eternal flame repository, a royal mausoleum for Achaemenid kings, or a repository for sacred texts and royal documents.

That seems quite a stretch! 🥱🥱

2. How far back do these supposed traditions and poetry go back? Can you please provide references for my research? I am digging into the pre-Islamic history of Mecca and have yet to find much regarding the town existing as a hub before Mohammed and his claims regarding Islam showing up there. 🥱

3. If the current Hajj mirrors the Hajj from before the adoption of the Kaaba into Islam, how can it be considered a transformation? 🥱🥱

4. Mohammed ordered at least one Kaaba. That is recorded in the Quran(backed by the Hadiths). Islam has it that Mohammed is the perfect being to be followed by his believers, so it isn't really out of the question to suggest that Mohammedians would have taken it on themselves to destroy other Kaabas(even those outside of record) just on Mohammed's example. 🥱🥱

5. Rubbing and kissing the stone in hopes that it will bear witness on your behalf on the last day isn't worship of the stone? Are you for real? Which of the other inanimate objects in your regular life that you probably rub and kiss from time to time, do you equally expect to be there for you and to bear witness on your behalf on this Islamic Last Day? Your toothbrush? Spoon or plastic bowl? 🥱🥱

6. Retaining a structure and the traditions that surround the visiting of it —the Hajj— while getting rid of just some of the idols in the structures— the black stone, an idol, was retained and is rubbed and kissed to this day— sounds a lot like a rebranding job than anything else. 🥱🥱

The Hajj poses intriguing historical questions to students of Islam. Most quintessential Islamic icons, such as the Qur’an, ritual prayer, and the Ramadan fast are closely associated with Muhammad’s prophetic mission, but the Hajj is explicitly ascribed a much more ancient history. Although Muslim and non-Muslim scholars disagree over its precise antiquity, there is consensus that Muhammad embraced a pre-existing Hajj ritual.
Several Western scholars have studied this ‘pre-Islamic Hajj’ to explore what they believe to be Islam’s syncretism, and they contend that Muhammad’s Hajj incorporated rituals from Arabian paganism, litholatry (stone worship), and even Judaism. 1 Muslims, on the other hand, maintain that the Hajj was originally a divinely inspired monotheistic practice for the worship of Allah, which was gradually corrupted by Arabian polytheists, but then restored by Muhammad to its original intention and correct monotheistic significance.

The two camps of scholars make divergent arguments, but they are united by a common objective of proving the ‘true history’ of the ‘actual’ pre-Islamic Hajj. Their work, however, is confronted by evidential problems. The Muslim account relies on an oral tradition purportedly explaining all details of the ancient origin of Hajj, but this tradition only survives in sources from the Islamic era and lacks both corroboration from pre-Islamic texts and archaeological substantiation. Western academic theories for their part pose interesting questions and highlight inconsistencies in the Muslim tradition, but they too lack the textual and archaeological evidence necessary to establish cogent alternatives.

7. Social Identity, even in countries that are predominantly Islamic? Nonsense! 🥱🥱🥱

Laple0541:
➜His mother got her life to live, yet sacrificed it to raise him.
➜ That is why they are called family members or blood.
➜ Isn’t it better than giving the innocent baby to just a stranger?

She made sacrifices to raise him, so she should also make additional sacrifices to raise his child, too? 🥱🥱

2. Oh, he is not a family member and blood equally capable of making similar sacrifices for his own child as his own mother did for him? 🥱🥱

3. So, the father of the child cannot raise the child he wanted to have and impregnated a woman to have? 🥱🥱

Laple0541:
Didn’t he has a mother or sister who can help out?
Even with both parents, it’s not easy to raise a baby not to talk of just a single father. I pray he gets help quickly and he too needs to be more serious.

Those ones no get lives of their own to live, abi? 🥱🥱

OlujobaSamuel:
E no get older female family members??

Those ones no get lives of their own to live, abi? 🥱🥱

ImoleNaija:
E no get mother or family members wey fit help?

Those ones no get lives of their own to live, abi? 🥱🥱

honesttalk21:
➜You made this up otherwise, what historical source did you get this from? Where were these Kaaba? The so-called Iranian Kaaba (Ka‘ba-ye Zartosht) got that name hundreds of years after Islam came about.
➜ There’s no sign people made pilgrimages there or worshiped idols, and it’s still standing today. So Muhammad pbuh didn’t destroy it. The name comes from popular use, not because these places shared the same religious meaning.
➜ Before Islam, Arabia had shrines, not many Kaabas. Muhammad didn’t tear down a whole class of buildings called Kaabas.
➜ Instead, he cleared idols out of the Meccan Kaaba and changed the existing rituals toward strict monotheism. This was a reform, not something he inherited.
➜About the part on hair grooming you mentioned from Bukhari, it doesn’t prove anything about religious beliefs. A style choice isn’t the same as faith. If haircuts decided religion, Jews, Christians, pagans, and Muslims would all be the same religion whenever their styles match. The hadith shows changes in social habits, not in what people believe. Trying to prove Christianity by looking at hair parting is as silly as using clothing styles to prove someone’s religion.

1. My focus isn't on the name but rather on the fact that the structure, very similar to the Kaaba in Mecca, existed long before Islam showed up on the landscape. The fact that it is known and has a history dating back to a known period and religion means it had traffic enough to keep it alive and going even to this day, contrary to what you would like us to believe.

2. The Kaaba(cube) of Zoroaster dates back as far as the Achaemenid era. It has history. And the religion of Zoroastrianism survives to this day. Not thanks to Mohammed, but a wonder beyond him, as the other Kaabas are known to have been destroyed by Islam.

3. Not much is known of the Meccan Kaaba before Islam showed up. However, information indicates — even in the Quran— that Mohammed ordered the destruction of at least one other Kaaba. Even Mohammed's claim that the black stone came down to Abraham is unsubstantiated, as there exists no history beyond 605CE when the Meccan Kaaba was rebuilt by Mohammed.

4. You mean instead an attempted rebranding of the worship of many idols in the Kaaba into the worship of just the major god in the original pantheon?🥱🥱

5. That is not according to Mohammed—Sahih Muslim 2:50, Sahih Bukhari 7:72:780 - 799, Sahih Bukhari 4:46:668, Bulugh Al Maram 16:1514, Sahih Muslim 2:502— who instead shared that Mohammedians had to groom themselves in ways that set them apart from all the other groups.... pluck their mustache while letting their beards grow out, pluck their underarm hair, etc. Grooming, in Islam, seems to carry great weight as there is no way not to notice how muslims seem to all strive to look alike everywhere you go.

RollinTNDA:
➜Make him start to dey do Olosho work Na so Single mothers dey take feed pikin

Exactly! Shey dem talk say "Heaven helps those who help themselves!"

EdonhappenTv:
➜"I can't raise this child alone. I need help" Frustrated single father cries out for help from women after his girlfriend abandoned him with their weeks-old baby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I86FDuZkXLc

WOW... she left the child at an orphanage for him to go pick it up? WOW 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

lawani:
➜The 30 day fast too existed before Mohammed

I am not certain where that specifically came from, except Mohammed copied that from Jewish traditions that are taken from the Talmud or the Misnah but definitely not the Torah or the Injeel.🥱🥱

The fasting that is lent, which is associated with Christian traditions, is typically set at 40-days and is connected with the erroneous notion that the time from the Passover supper to the day the Holy Spirit showed up was 40 days.

JIBO4REAL:
➜So you didn’t know that Islam honor women more than any religion on the earth, even if you seen proof you are blind my hate you won’t able to reason towards it and find research on your own aside social media propaganda.
➜ Before the advent of Islam women were often treated worse than animals. The Prophet wanted to put a stop to all cruelties to women.
➜ He preached kindness towards them. He told the Muslims: "Fear Allah in respect of women." And: "The best of you are they who behave best to their wives." And: "A Muslim must not hate his wife, and if he be displeased with one bad quality in her, let him be pleased with one that is good." And:"The more civil and kind a Muslim is to his wife, the more perfect in faith he is."
➜ A whole chapter was dedicated for only women in Holy book Quran Kareem.

1. I have been reading the Quran and associated entries in the Hadith; I am currently on Chapter 33 of the Quran. And so far, I have yet to find any place in the book where Islam honors women. That is why I am asking you to tell us where they are and in what ways. 🥱🥱🥱

2. Women were treated like animals, yet
⚉ Mohammed's first wife was not only a wealthy woman but also his employer, who probably had herself other merchants working for her.
⚉ Mohammed's marriage to Aisha, despite her being previously betrothed to another man, was a political move by him to obtain for himself the support and allegiance of her father
⚉ Stories from around the same time, some recorded by one of the Islamic scholars, spoke of the beauties and freedoms of Turkish women, whom the scholar proceeded to mock and insist needed to be reigned in by way of Islam.

Can we please stop making shit up? 🥱🥱

3. Mohammed preached kindness by
➜ forcing pre-pubertal girls into marriage?
➜ insisting that even pre-pubertal girls can be used in mutah— temporary marriages, which is literally prostitution, as it does not stop the girl from being passed around a bunch of men for their pleasure?
➜ insisting that because of Umar and others like him, women should be forced to cover up from head to toe, and not leave the house without the permission of their husbands?
➜ insisting that men could commit adultery on their wives without the women having a say of any kind or being able to divorce them on those grounds?
➜ insinuating that even servants/contractual slaves— those whom your right hand possesses— can be used for the sexual pleasure of men without consequence?
➜ insisting that the witness of a woman was half of a man's?
➜ endorsing marital rape?
➜ Describing women as fields to be plowed and used as desired by their men?
➜ suggesting that if raped, a woman had to have at least 4 witnesses(since a woman's witness is half of a man's that mean she had to have at least 8 women to serve as witnesses to her rape, or at least have some men in the mix?
➜ Insisting that a woman can only inherit half of what a man can?
....
Need I go on?

Even Mohammed insisted that no one ever take any of his wives in marriage after his death... meaning he left all 9 women(including 18-year-old Aisha) without a man or children for the rest of their lives... how honorable was any of that to the women who lived out those days in loneliness? 🥱🥱🥱

4. Chapter 4 of the Quran only reveals how little regard Mohammed had for women, and muslims still have for women to this day. So, is there another chapter that supposedly honors women that I am not aware of?

AntiChristian:
➜ Of course we can! Adam made a mistake and most Christians still blame him today not Eve! ➜ Who instituted the barbaric standard in the Old Testament? YHWH or Jesus or both!
➜ Was the same law to execute like that pronounced in the Qur'an or Sunnah? Show us?
➜ Israel has been killing civilians in Gaza, can we compare this to what happened in the Old testament?
➜ You can't suggest such! It's not your business! Why not suggest UAE or Saudi Arabia? Abi your eyes no dey see good?

1. Just because a bunch of religion nutjobs apportion blame for their delusions on past people or demons/devils/jinns/etc.., does not mean sane individuals do the same. 🥱🥱

2. Both, of course! And both of them brought the political system of the nation of Israel that existed to a close about 2000 years ago. 🥱🥱

3. It cannot be the same law since we made it abundantly clear that the Law of Moses applied only to the Israelites. The Quran was not made for the Israelites and definitely not for the same time period in question. The former nation of Israel came to a close more than 600 years before the Quran did in a place outside of Canaan. 🥱🥱

4. Every country that exists today has the right to defend its borders from attackers. Even Nigeria, to this day, is fighting an insurgency within its borders. And sadly, civilians are sometimes caught in the line of fire. There are literally reports of people being caught in the fire during fights between the Nigerian military and Boko Haram. I have never seen you crying or wailing on their behalf before.

5. I can and I did suggest exactly what I wished. Aren't you proud of Afghanistan, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia... all countries where Islamic law is present at almost 99% implementation. Saudi Arabia and the UAE have been opening their minds up to new things—hosting music concerts, allowing for nightlife, celebrating Xmas, etc.,— that the Quran would frown upon, so I don't even think OP would like it there. 🥱🥱

AntiChristian:
➜Whenever you are asked a question you divert from it and ask/answer your own! Where did Allah made such claims in the Qur'an? The Torah was specifically for the people of Moses just as the Injeel were for the people of Israel. The Injeel was not even a written book but what Jesus taught!
➜Where can these be found if not in the Bible? What analyses?
➜ Are they not being answered? As usual, you'll pick a few from these and continue your rant without being holistic.

1. So, Allah, who said in the Quran that He gave the books, that is the Torah and the Injeel, to the people of the books, lied? Is that what you are implying? 🥱🥱

In the Quran, Mohammed claimed the Torah and Injeel were inspired, preserved, and authorized by him. So, did Allah forget that he had declared, in the Torah and again in the Injeel, the cessation of the nation of Israel, the exiling of a portion of his people, their complete overthrow from power by the Romans, after which the law of Israel goes into hiatus? 🥱🥱

2. Your previous post contained verses from your Quran suggesting that even today, Mohammed's mission to conquer mankind with his Quran still applies, did you not? And is mankind currently limited to existing Islamic nations, even those like Iran were the people no longer want to be under Islamic law? 🥱🥱

3. I didn't start dealing with evasive beings such as yourself today. Answer the question! 🥱🥱

AntiChristian:
➜So mean the nation that uses God"s laws is not much better than those who don't use it? So what's the point of Holy Spirit/God inspiring?
➜ I still think your YHWH should have given Israel better laws than killings and carnage like that!
➜ As you said previously, times were different! Moses and Joshua were militarized unlike John and Jesus that came later! So the inspiration that came to Moses involves war and killing strategem as seen in Deuteronomy 20. Also Moses will be the law maker as he had real power to enforce the laws! Jesus on the other had will embrace peace and bow down to the law of the day as he had no military to face the Romans! Also Jesus had limitations in enforcing any law and i don't think there were any law punishing any vices from Jesus. It is clear YHWH was extremely brutal in the OT.
➜ If Israel could have such brutal system in the Bible inspired from YHWH, i wonder what moral standing you have to even mention Islam here.

1. Here's the question. A nation ruled by men who were identified in that nation which no longer exists in our world today as some of the vilest people by the same God who gave them the political system that established by them the nation of Israel... where do you get the idea that the nation was designed to be much better simply by them having a Law directly from the God of their ancestors? 🥱🥱

2. Well... coulda...woulda...shoulda... we all know YHWH of Israel gave His people a Law that reflected, in many ways, the traditions and peoples of the time in question. 🥱🥱

3. The business of Jesus Christ of Israel, himself an Israelite, is not what this here is about. 🥱🥱🥱

4. I don't care for your moral... morality to me is bullsheet that is related to religion, of which I have none. I simply believe in the Universal Human Rights of all human beings in 2026, and Islam is a political system, in 2026, which seeks to deny people of their Universal Human Rights, even willing to butcher people as we see going on in Iran, for that cause. 🥱🥱

I have been reading the Quran and came to realize that the bulk of the so-called Christian and Jewish stories in the book come not from the Torah and the Injeel, but actually from the Mishnah and the Talmud— the books that were compiled from the writings of the lying scribes described by Jeremiah—, which were compiled only 400 to 100 years before Mohammed. This leads me to realize that Mohammed probably made a mistake when he claimed Allah authored the Torah and the Injeel, by the way.

By the way, you are yet to make sense of your brandishing laws that went into hiatus almost 2000 years ago in 2026. 🥱🥱

AntiChristian:
➜The nation ceased to exist and that's not our business! What you are asked is why is YHWH, the merciful God so brutal in the old testament compared to the New testament when his son was around?
➜ The Injeel bring said it clearly to the canaanite woman that he (Jesus) was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel. I am not an Israelite!
The law was from YHWH, same God you still worship today! Same God Jesus worshipped in the Bible. The law was said to be inspired by the Holy Spirit and hence should make sense! 2 Timothy 3:16 - All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness. We should scrutinize these scriptures to see they conform to these words!

1. Brutal? I actually don't consider them brutal for their time. Yes, they would be considered inhumane for our time, but having studied other nations that existed during that same time, and afterwards, I cannot help but walk away believing I can't judge the nation of Israel's Laws unfairly, knowing other civilizations around that time had the same laws and sometimes even worse. To this day, I have yet to come up against any nation that existed around the same time with much better laws or a human rights track record. Even the great Greeks and Romans were not much different or better as far as Laws are concerned. 🥱

So, to answer your question, I do not share your opinion that YHWH was more brutal than Jesus Christ of Israel. Rather, YHWH set up a nation for men(that was to be ruled by men) with Laws in place that mirrored the traditions of the times in question. Jesus Christ of Israel , who came as a man, lived in said nation and bowed himself down to the same Law as an Israelite. 🥱🥱

2. So, you are not an Israelite, but you pretend it is your place to judge your Mohammedian political system by an Israelites-only political system that ceased to exist about 2000 years ago? Make that make sense to me, please. 🥱🥱