₦airaland Forum

nairamaniac:
■ If you listen to the video till the end, it seems like he is actually using this opportunity to motivate Christians to go beyond the limit of 10% of their earnings.

That is yet another unscriptural declaration wey many decades from now the man, abi na him son by then, go come give una fake apology for! These people are scammers through and through!

anthropizzy:
■ Religion is a scam in Africa. The harsh economy in Nigeria has affected the way Christians are paying tithe to Pentecostal churches. I expect him to bash those in power, but he won't because they are his church members.They are paying but you can give an account of how you spend it. Most Nigerians are docile when it comes to religious Matters. S. M. H

Religion, all the world over, is a scam. However, the fraud is more profound in Africa where the scammers-in-the-lords are in direct cahoots with the politicians who enable them to pillage and destroy the people without consequence.

Rexymania:
■ You're right actually but with time, their eyes will be opened...just like yours

Time did not open my eyes! I literally caused my brain to crash from questioning it all. It was only after then that my mind was rescued from all of the bullsheet of mostly Nigeria and religion.

Rexymania:
■ Forgets it, most of those going to church do not pay their tithes, that's why their pastors are clamoring on it . They are just going to church bcus they have no place to go to on Sundays
*Some to show their cars and gadget
*Some to chase women
*Some to get recognized.
*Some for future help

They may not pay what is called tithe but they do pay offerings, vows, etc., right? Those are forms of support that those businesses use to keep themselves in the lives of the people. Just imagine how many churches would exist in anywhere Nigeria if Nigerians stopped funding them? Imagine how less religiously brainwashed most would be if they spent more time away from those places listening to sermons that are designed to placate them and at the same time shackle them to those seats?

MamaletASO:
■ May the Lord show you mercy...and give you understanding of Himself..

Which lord abeg? Be more specific. Do you mean Adeboye, your lord and god, abi which one?

SimpleDotNetFor:
■ Heve you ever met Jesus Chrsit to know what he has asked for?

So, this criterion that you have to meet Jesus Christ in the flesh in order to know what he has asked for was set forth by who again?

MatrixCircle:
■ Brainwashing in a religious context is a systematic attempt to force people to accept a certain doctrine, allegiance, or command. It is a colloquial term that can also refer to any technique that manipulates a person's thoughts or actions against their will, knowledge, or desire. Like of recent Pastor Adeboye of RCCG apologised to members for using a false doctrine on tithing, Pastor Ibiyomi in Portharcout told his members Adam didn't eat Apple but he ate his tithe and was chased out of God's presence, David Oyedepo has his own doctrine on tithing so people can donate.
■ In the otherhand a popular Radio presenter by Name Daddy Freeze started a program against this false doctrine and he didn't find it easy from attacks from members of this mega churches and thier MOGs. However, Pastor Damina and some other Catholic Priests have started toeing same idea and reasoning Daddy Freez brought and change has started. Are Nigerian Christians the most brainwashed?

Religion is a scam, and no religion is exempt. We are talking of men worshipping ideas put forth and sanctioned by other men— religious leaders aka scammers-in-the-lords or whatever other titles you give them. It is just what it is and nothing more.

2. Everyone who is under one religion or another is brainwashed. So, just because you have chosen to make Catholic priests, Abel Damina and even Freeze, your religious heroes does not mean you are yourself not still impacted by the religious brainwashing. Last I checked, Abel Damina, Freeze, and Catholic priests all still hold strong to the religious umbrella of Christianity.

SimpleDotNetFor:
■ You are someone that calls truth lies and lies truth

State just one truth that applies as far as your person.

Sand2022:
■ I think people still pay tithe in his church. Right?

The brainwashing is not easy to shake off in a day or two. Some people spend a lifetime never really recovering from many of the religious lies they had been fed.

The1960writer:
■ In essence, you're saying God will give a person a 'special conviction' to do what he did not explicitly command any gentile in his Word to do and then drag the person to hell for not following a confusing and contradictory instruction? Abi una dey forget say you all are gentiles? Except of course, there are now Israelites living in Nigeria.
What amazes me is the level many Churchians would go to paint God as a schizophrenic. I'm not even surprised anymore, with the stories many wake up telling about how a 'Jesus' took them to hell and they discovered how wearing lipgloss and gold wristwatches took people to hell. How God told them to stop wearing colognes and shave their hair. Preposterous!

Christianity is a lie built on the claim that Jesus Christ and the God of Israel are both monumental liars. Of course, let's not forget that Islam is also built on the same foundation since it equally attempts to associate itself with a God, people, and ideas which they do not qualify for by birth.

TouchNfollow:
■ The pastor said, “One of my pastors went online and preached a sermon on why people should not pay tithes. I watched the sermon, thinking I would learn something profound.
“He said we shouldn’t pay tithes because Jesus didn’t collect tithes. I said, ah, Jesus was not a parish pastor, He was a world evangelist.”
He added that he was, however, disappointed because it was a repetition of what others had been saying.
“Forgive me for saying so, but it was a very shallow sermon,” he added.
In addressing the claim that Jesus did not collect tithes, Adeboye said, “Jesus was not a parish pastor; He was a world evangelist.
“The Bible in Luke 8:1-3 tells us that certain women, including Mary Magdalene, Joanna, and Susanna, supported His ministry financially.”

Jesus Christ was right when he proclaimed that these thieves— monsters— would come to steal, to kill, and destroy, all while lying and using his name.

MamaletASO:
■ Where did you get this picture Did you Photoshop it??
Answer quickly

Na you photoshop the picture wey you dey ask?

MamaletASO:
■I don't know how to respond to this...I will only advice you to "ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOUR" Thank you

How can you— a non-Israelite— go around telling people you have accepted Jesus Christ who instead said He was sent by His Father only to the Lost Sheep of Israel — those born of the bloodline of Jacob? Jesus Christ literally washed His hands of anyone who doesn't have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins when in HIs very Gospel, He warned His followers against giving that which is Holy to the dogs— non-Israelites— warning that dogs will only tear at the Gospel, and then the disciples themselves. Are you an Israelite— a descendant of Jacob??

patrikoolar:
Same thing with Youth Corps members, who have not seen any addition to their allawee...
Also, I wonder why federal government stopped the sale of rice to civil servants, even as the generality of the public have not seen a grain.
Lagos state government also stopped the popular sunday market.
This is a government?

You dey mind all of them? Dem tell them say make dem come out to protest, all of them refuse because dem think say their own better pass the rest of Nigerians. Make dem continue to dey enjoy the Shege of Tinubu!

meum:
Na wa. Na you talk say Jesus had women who supported his ministry. Na same you have word of caution for those who have women supporting their ministry.
God abeg the anointed wey you talk say make we no touch don dey over do.

This man and others like him spun you that lie, not God. You still don't get it, do you? All those lies were formulated by these men— scammers who hide their brand of lies behind mentions of God— to protect themselves —as they conned you all out of your money and lives.

Rexymania:
■ Weldon brother.... you're smart Na only mumu person these people fit con...not people like us.
Majority of Nigerians are now woke

how can the majority of Nigerians be woke when the vast majority of Nigerians remain handicapped — mentally— by religion courtesy of these scammers-in-the-lords?

xtianchris:
■ He has realized that's why he apologized.
■ God will Judge.

Realized what? The man apologized for one lie but immediately followed it up with two more lies to keep you all glued to his arse... what did he realize? Only you can unhook yourself from his tits.

By the way, which God go judge am? The God Adeboye sold his many lies on behalf of for many decades and continues to sell some more for or another one?

Update147:
■ Hello Nairalanders,I was just reading through the book of Luke and I came across a passage that discussed how the holy Spirit came upon Elizabeth and also how the holy Spirit came upon Mary.I had always believed that the holy Spirit did not come upon anyone until Jesus Ascension, so what exactly is the book of Luke talking about when he said the holy Spirit came upon Elizabeth and also upon Mary. Please I need a detailed explanation to help my understanding.

The Spirit of the God of Israel— the bloodline of Jacob— descended on the people as the God of Israel saw fit.

ahmedio2017:
Christianity is synonymous to hypocri.sy

All religions are scams!

briandermot:
■ Lol what of the killing of brother

Parricide

Tallesty1:
Is that even an apology? After saying the so called apology, he now said that tithe should be more than 10%, that 10% is minimum.

You forgot the other lie he also told of how it is both right and wrong to claim light travels in a straight line. 😂😂😂

Now, according to him(his new scam), a tithe —1/10th— is no longer to mean just that, 1/10th, but rather a minimum of 1/10th. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

The man is a bonafide scammer-in-the-lords....an OLe!

Willie2015:
■ With all your Xtian knowledge..and write up on Nairaland.. Educate us on the number of souls you brought to Christ.., churches u have planted.... in your state ..Nigeria and world wide ...through your influence...Folks with zero influence castigating ...Men that have stamped their feet in the sands of time...I advise you to read on the Law of Honor...And change your mindset... U are too old for all these nonsense...

Adeboye sold his followers lies— deceit, fraud, con, scam, etc., — for many decades, all of these antiChrist behavior — the devil is listed in Scripture as the father of those who trade lies. However, somehow you conveniently convinced yourselves that even with those lies, Adeboye was bringing soul to a Jesus Christ, the same one who declared that He is the Truth — a complete absence of lies — of God? How can two opposing ideas be considered the same for Pete's sake? Kai! ... whatever you Christians— religious people in general — drink to cause you all to reason the way you do, dem no dey sell am for the market at all. 🙄

Adeboye is nothing but a politician/businessman who used political tactics(lies) hidden behind the mention of a God to build for himself an empire and amass a following and wealth.

EvergreenDiarie:
What about those of started paying tithes due to the threat of the message

He defrauded them all and will probably not even consider paying them back the money he stole from them. Dude is already insisting that his followers ought to pay more in tithes... 😁😁😁😁😁😁

Willie2015:
■ He has come out to admit his error... So what's your grudge against him...? Sincerely, I don't care about any denomination..... Whatsoever name it is called ..... I don't even have to be a xtian to know ...It takes grace to oversee a church with presence in 197 countries... With over 9 million members worldwide...My role is to tap into that grace with honor... And where they make mistakes .. learn and use it to improve my life...And not sit down in d corner of ur room with zero influence ... and be castigating people up and down......Go and read about the Law of Honor ... Youngman

Young man, Adeboye at least admitted in the video that only those who are perfect shall see God. However, according to you, no human is perfect and since Adeboye is a human being to you that means he too is not holy and hence cannot see God. So, why do you keep believing that Adeboye knows God if he is not even perfect enough to approach the presence of God?

Ennyjude:
99% of pastor's collect o

All of them are scammers-in-the-lords, politicians who hide their brand of lies behind the mentions of the name of a so-called divine being.

Adeboye has almost become a master at conning his didinrin followers at this point since he was able to convince many of them that a lie he held up against them for many decades was nothing for them to squirm about.

Anither563:
Very sound advice.

Nonsense!

yusufmurry:
Pastor, you can lieeeee!
You don't have money?
If Prof Charles Soludo and a youthful Gov Yahaya Bello could fail in leadership.
Then, we hold no expectations from Pastor Umo playing the gallery

Una dey too carry all these useless titles for head abeg! These people are your employees and if they can't perform, you are meant to throw them out the door immediately. Not sit back to tell stories!

Augustine2244:
■ Anyone still listening to this man proves that monkeys can actually be more intelligent than a human being.
Pentecostalism of today is seriously threatening to totally rubbish Christianity and bring it to absolute ridicule.
Orthodox churches are the best if you must go to church.
They include Roman Catholic church, Anglican church, Methodist, Presbyterian.
All these useless Pentecostal churches are more of a nuisance to the society than a solution and they often contribute to the everyday problems in society.
If I were to be a president,I will borrow a leaf from China on tight control of churches.
1. I will strictly regulate the proliferation of Pentecostal churches by imposing a condition of government approval and constant scrutiny by government.
2. Strict banning of pastors interfering with political and government affairs with heavy penalties including prison sentences.
3. I will impose taxes on all Pentecostal churches especially those with GOs flying private jets.
The airport they use need to be maintained with finances.
4. I will impose a government audit of finances on these mega Pentecostal churches.
If you don't like it, close your church.
Oh how much I love China.
5. I will impose a strict government control of the sale of spiritual items in Pentecostal churches.
No sales without government approval and registration.
6. I will restrict the freedom of speech of Pentecostal pastors on government matters.
These useless charlatans are known to cause societal chaos by their utterances like this Hypocrite Adeboye who prayed for his members colleagues to fall into poverty.
If all these are done with Pentecostalism in Nigeria, there would be much more SANITY and lesser social chaos.

Nonsense! Christianity from its very roots has always been a scam, so don't pretend the catholic are any better than the Pentecostals when it comes to exhibiting many of the same brain damage.

Omooba77:
“I want to beg everyone all over the world. Let this argument about tithe come to an end, please,” Adeboye said.
He emphasized that believers should not abandon their churches if their pastors refuse to accept tithes, advising them to follow their pastor’s wishes by giving offerings instead.
However, he also encouraged those who feel convicted to tithe to find another church where tithes are accepted.
Punch Metro reported that the cleric referenced one of his pastor’s who preached against tithing during an online sermon, throwing futher confusion on the controversial subject of tithing.
“If your pastor says he doesn’t want tithe, don’t leave his church. If he says all he wants is offering, give him offering,” Adeboye explained.
“But if your heart tells you that you should give God at least 10 per cent, find a church nearby where the pastor says, ‘We can collect tithe, we will use it for the glory of God,’ then give that pastor your tithe so you don’t quarrel with your pastor, and you don’t quarrel with God.”
Adeboye also apologized for previous comments in which he stated that those who do not tithe would not enter heaven, clarifying his position on the matter.
“I know some of you know more than I do. I know that Pastor of mine knows much more than I do. But let’s do it this way, particularly you members. If your pastor says he doesn’t want tithe, don’t leave his church. If he says all he wants is offering, give him offering.
“But if your heart tells you that you should give God at least, 10 per cent, find a church nearby where the pastor says, ‘we can collect tithe, we will use it for the glory of God’, then give that pastor your tithe so you don’t quarrel with your pastor and you don’t quarrel with God, your conscience will be clear.”

Ole! Barawo banza! He can't seem to get his eyes of that money is the thing! He conned his followers for many decades and built a kingdom for himself using lies and deceit. He can't stop himself even after his pretend apology the other day. Now, he demands an end so all his other lies can continue to go unquestioned. Imagine this old thief who scammed people for much of his life wanting to keep lying until the end!

OneCandleAway:
What I think I new pastors or churches will be angry with him. Source of study funding is being blocked after the older churches used the format to build and stabilise their churches.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

BluntCrazeMan:
My earlier response was sarcastic.

Oh Ok!

EvergreenDiarie:
I was just thinking about the people who started paying their tithes just because of the threat of going to hell if the refuse to pay tithes.

That video reveals the fraudster for who he truly is. He did not miss the chance to quickly insert two other lies to make sure his gullible followers remained captivated by his Bullsheet.