₦airaland Forum

Throwback:
■ Just note that if one particular government can be brought to an end outside of the constitutional methods, then all governments can be likewise brought to an end in whatever way any interested group see fit. We can all exhibit madness at our respective appointed times.

What are you going on about?

MossadAgent:
■ So you expect any govt in the world to resign because of peaceful protests against it ?
I believe you meant to say violent riots instead of peaceful protests. Your right to protestation ends the second you constitute yourself as a menace to society and well being of others.

Rubbish! Abeg, stop trying to change the channel! Focus on what the Constitution in fact says abeg!

MossadAgent:
■ Because it isn't spelt in black and white that you can use violent populist uprising to force a govt into resignation doesn't mean it is legally approved. The constitution is clear on how to unseat a duly elected civilian adminstration and no where does it call for mass violent riots. In your deranged state of Marxist inebriation you now believe that terrorists like BH are also operating within the law in deploying violence to impose universal Sharia law.

1. What you are trying to have us believe is that if a government officer voluntarily resigns from office, such an act violates the Constitution?🤨🤨🤨🤨

MossadAgent:
■ There are only two ways of getting rid of a democratically elected adminstration :
1. Through the ballot
2. Impeachment process by the National Assembly.
Any other means and ways to effect regime change outside an election or through an impeachment process is High Treason

There is a 3rd way. The government official can voluntarily resign from office. So again explain to me why the actions of those calling for the administration to step down is undemocratic. And yes, people can in a situation where there has been a gross abuse of their rights and mandate, demand for an overthrow of the current system.

I have yet to come upon any entry in the constitution that rules against this. So care to provide access to sections that support these claims you make here?

MossadAgent:
■ I have read several posts here by the usual Obidient mob calling for mass violent protests similar to that that shook Kenya. It should be noted that their planned violent protest has one of its key demands being violent overthrow of the current administration. This has been the reoccurring theme in all the topics created by the deranged Obidients that has advanced as their key reason to "protest" : an overthrow of the incumbent democratically elected civilian adminstration.
Your rights to protest in a democratic setting ends when your demands are for the overthrow of the current administration, a scenario that will usher in the end of our democratic system. This is not only high treason and sedition but exposes the antidemocratic tendencies of the Obidient mob, whom I have been warning here since they reared their ugly heads are filled to the brim with deranged Marxists.

I am sorry, what? Treason to want to bring to an end the current administration? Are you OK at all? Where in the Supreme Law of the land is this stated?

Anguldi:
■ There will always be problems

Problems of this magnitude that resulted from the last INEC election? Are you for real?

Anguldi:
■ It's all about constitution amendments. SIEC needs to go, this governor's have done more harm. Same local government chairmen that brought governors to power were all sacked by those governors. Same governors decide which local government gets what and not.
■ Tinubu should put this governor's in their places and correct that nonsense Obasanjo did💯

1. See how easily that rolls off your mind there. Do you know that in over 400 years of the existence of the United States, there have been only 27 constitutional amendments? But do you know how many times, in the last 25 years alone, Nigerians have tampered with their Constitution? Do you know who has benefitted the most each time the Constitution has been tampered with under the guise of amendments and do you know those who have suffered the most? I can tell you that the politicians have benefitted the most each time, and the spread of corruption ...has not been brought to check with any of many amendments.

2. Tinubu, the same man who has been wasting vast resources with literally nothing to show for it all still is the one you intend to have put the Governors in their place? Which kain cool-aid be this all of una dey drink abeg... na very toxic stuff o!

Anguldi:
Tinubu has been a better democrat right from inception. Now I understand why James ibori fired from all pots against local government autonomy. Very wicked man I can remember 1998 December local government elections held by INEC. Things should return to status quo

Yes ooo! Because the most recent elections run by INEC were certified as the best in the nation's history too, right?

Anguldi:
■ I culled when Lagos State did theirs, the link is further down. Local Government would have been far better if not for this polithiefcians. How can 36 people in person of governors hold 200 million Nigerians to Ransome. This nonsense must stop.
■ It is therefore in line with this Constitutional Provision that the Lagos State House of Assembly established the Lagos State Independent Electoral Commission (LASIEC) through Law No. 15 of November 27, 2001.The Commission was consequently inaugurated on 22nd January, 2002 by Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu, the then Governor of Lagos State.
The Commission at inception, operated at the Women Development Centre, Agege and the Lagos State School of Nursing and Mid-wifery, Ikoyi, before it relocated to its present headquarters at 2, Birrel Avenue, Sabo-Yaba, on Monday, 15th April, 2002. https://lasiec.lagosstate.gov.ng/

1. Is it better than to have one corrupt person and party holding the entire nation to ransom at pretty much all 3-tiers of the Government? Last I checked, the FG has been accused of doing the same using INEC for, almost all 25 years of this democracy. So, I don't see how it makes sense to now hand LG elections directly into the hands of the same FG.

2. Yes, every state in Nigeria is meant to have a SIEC commission. That oversees state-level elections similarly to INEC at the national level.

oyichi:
are you sure of this list? northerners demanding the release of nnandi kanu, hmmm

What has Northerners to do with a general protest list? If none of the ideas on the list concerns you, then don't show up to protest with that group at all. Simple! You can always organize your own protest, compile your own list and go for it!

CyrusVI:
■ So the situation of the country is the reason why 150k+ people couldnt reason logically enough to know hes destroying their own region 150k people?? Including those outside Nigeria sending funds to him?? Ahhh Abeg rest. it's more of an ethnic orientation abeg

Abeg shut the Bleep up o'jare! Make we hear word! Are you any better than them? We are after all talking of the same nation where over 200,000,000 people sit back and watch on while the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens of the same country pillage and destroy their very lives and futures. But here you are with the audacity to point what are racist fingers at a subset of the very same population proclaiming them the worst.

Enter the gutter somewhere hang your head in shame abeg! Nonsense!

seanfer:
■ INEC has been the one conducting LGA elections until OBJ led govt use the LGA election to conpensate PDP Governors for supporting his second term ticket in 2003.

Read the following link instead. https://situationroomng.org/state-independent-electoral-commissions-siecs/

BERNIMOORE:
The National AssemblyMoves Bill To Grant INEC Authority To Conduct LG Election and rather than state electoral bodies at the plenary. This move follows a recent Supreme Court ruling granting autonomy to local government areas, prompted by a federal government lawsuit.

Bullsheet move! Is this not the same INEC that dubiously foisted the current President on the Nigerian people? This is why all of these criminals in office need to be completely removed and done away with, and all laws enacted reversed. They violate the very Constitution upon which the Nation was established as they see fit all to rule as they see fit. How can Nigerians sit back like zombies as their lives and futures are trampled upon by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens?

oyichi:
■ the end sars protesters demanded that the government disband the special anti rubbery squad popularly Known as sars, the protested and the government of buhari was forced to disband the squad, now, what are the leaders of the forth coming protest demanding from the government?,
■ you can't just come out to say the government should end hunger or hardship, they should have a point, something like demanding the government to sell the refineries and give the existing modula refineries the license to produce and sell pms that will bring down the price of petroleum products and in turn bring down the price of goods and services in the country or put up a reasonable proposal
■ please, at this point, the protest is aimless and reasonable Nigerians should stay away from it.am not saying that this government is good, honestly, this is the worst government in the history of this country but when protesting, be reasonable

1. Lies! Forced by whom? The protestors or the political touts who went out vandalizing properties to implicate the protestors? There are many videos of this happening by the way.

2. You probably have not seen the latest list of demands by some protest groups!

3. Well, I would say they have to start somewhere.

Mrexcell:
■ Of course any politician with criminal records is not supposed to hold any public office but searching for a saint without any sin doesn't make any sense to me it's just like saying u won't marry if u don't find a virgin girl in this modern world.

Wait a second... it is hard to find a Nigerian without a criminal record at all? Are you being serious right now? Basically, you wish for us to believe that most all Nigerians out there are criminals or have criminal records?

IfnobeGod20:
■ It seems my brother you don't even understand the content of this section. The national assembly duty is to work out how the money generated by the FG will be shared among the three tiers of government. I think by law it is 52% for FG and 48% for the state and local government. The national assembly doesn't have any other duty than this on the finance of the state and local government. And this 48% is to be paid to the state joint local government account, before the state redistribute to the local government councils in the state. After that it is the responsibility of the state house assembly to also determine how the local government will appropriate to different council. That's just what that section 162 subsection 5 to 8 is saying.
In a lay man language, National Assembly determines what 1 son , 2 son and 3 son will get (subsection 3, 4, 5) while the state assembly determines how the 3 son will spend the money (subsection .

1. Stop all this unnecessary storytelling abeg! Answer the question abeg!

If the National Assembly is responsible for, according to the Constitution, prescribing the final amount to be shared by the LGs in each state and the State Assembly equally has the responsibility for prescribing and eventually distributing amounts to individual LGs in a particular state, does it not then follow, as stated in the Constitution, that the final fate of the LGs lies in the hands of both the National and State Houses of Assembly in this case?

Mrexcell:
■ Continue searching for blackwashed saint from God knows where to salvage nigeria for you while other sane countries are moving on with averagely less corrupt reasonable leaders.

Stop talking nonsense! Anyone guilty of a crime or violating the Constitution is a criminal by Nigerian standards and should not hold office at all in a sane country.

IfnobeGod20:
■ Go up my last comment I have included that in the last paragraph.

Please read through and digest all of what is written. Section 5 states that amounts shall be distributed to the States for the benefit of their Local Government Councils, not the State Governors themselves. In Section 6 it is explained to you that the amount credited to the state on behalf of the LGs in said are to be deposited in that joint account maintained(kept alive) by the State.

(3) Any amount standing to the credit of the Federation Account shall be distributed among the Federal and State Governments and the Local Government Councils in each State on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
(4) Any amount standing to the credit of the States in the Federation Account shall be distributed among the States on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
(5) The amount standing to the credit of Local Government Councils in the Federation Account shall also be allocated to the State for the benefit of their Local Government Councils on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
(7) Each State shall pay to Local Government Councils in its area of jurisdiction such proportion of its total revenue on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
( 8 ) The amount standing to the credit of Local Government Councils of a State shall be distributed among the Local Government Councils of that State on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the House of Assembly of the State.
More: https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-162

According to you....

The national assembly is just a o make law for the distribution of the accruals to the Federation account to all the three tiers of government. They have no direct administration with the local government areas.

Let's assume for a second that this is true. Isn't that law in itself a form of control over the LGs? Does that Law not directly impact the functioning of the LGs at the lower level?
So, my questions remain. What part of the content of the law as revealed in subsections 4, 5, 6,7, and 8 leads you to believe that the National Assembly being able to control allocations that eventually reach the LG cannot be said to directly influence events at the LG level?

IfnobeGod20:
...Subsection 8 gave vivid function of who to control the redistribution of the finance of the local government. It would be abnormal for two organs of government to have control over just one entity of government. It will surely cause overlapping function. So national assembly cannot be having control over the local government administration and the state assembly will also have same control. That's misnomer. Take time and digest from subsection 5 to 8 and you will see the difference and who has control.

I asked you a simple question but I am getting some sort of runaround from you instead. What part of the content of the law as revealed in subsections 4, 5, 6,7, and 8, leads you to believe that the National Assembly being able to control allocations that eventually reach the LG cannot be said to directly influence events at the LG level?

emmykk:
■ Expected income against expenses.

LOL... wake the fk up abeg! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

emmykk:
■ Budget is not debt go back to school

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

IfnobeGod20:
■ Please go back to my above comment, I forgot to attach the poster but is now there. Please read keenly sub section 8

I did include subsection 8 in my previous post. What aspect of subsection 8 overrules the previous subsections which equally indicate that the National House of Assembly has some form of control over the funding of the LGs?

(3) Any amount standing to the credit of the Federation Account shall be distributed among the Federal and State Governments and the Local Government Councils in each State on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
(4) Any amount standing to the credit of the States in the Federation Account shall be distributed among the States on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
(5) The amount standing to the credit of Local Government Councils in the Federation Account shall also be allocated to the State for the benefit of their Local Government Councils on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
(7) Each State shall pay to Local Government Councils in its area of jurisdiction such proportion of its total revenue on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
( 8 ) The amount standing to the credit of Local Government Councils of a State shall be distributed among the Local Government Councils of that State on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the House of Assembly of the State.
More: https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-162

If the amount of funding that eventually makes it down to each LG is dependent on decisions made by the National Assembly as well as the State Assembly, isn't it then reasonable to suggest that power over the LG resides with both houses?

AdeCityzen:
We all know about the anti-people policies Tinubu has inflicted on us all, everybody is feeling the heat. Many business has collapsed, even the surving one are struggling. Even nairalanders are not left out, i can see the pain, hopelessness, doubt & angers in our comments. Let's be frank with this oo, if no rigging happens in the 2027 election, do you all think he we win that election? Because i can't believe any sane human being will vote for this man

This here shows how seriously messed up most of you are. Look at Kenyan children for Pete's sake!

Tjra:
Seems Kobojunkie's account has been hacked. The real user of this moniker is a feminist on family threads and also someone that spreads biblical heresies on Religion threads. The new person behind this moniker has been active on Politics threads for some days now and is obviously a man. What's going on?

Not hacked!

Asidy:
Don't mind what he is doing, he just an unfortunate one term president

In just one year this man has shown you his true colors. He basically can't give you anything better than what he has so far given to you. Yet, you wish for him to sit another 3 years in government? Have you folks no shame?

N28.7 trillion(with nothing to show for it several months on) + N6.2 trillion .... Na gbese una children and children's children go dey pay all of their lives for Nigeria. Nigerians, una never tire of these Kakistocrats(Ndume's word) you have in Governments?
nlfpmod

The President had on January 1, 2024, assented to the N28.7 trillion 2024 Appropriation Bill passed by the Senate.

President Bola Tinubu, on Wednesday, requested the Senate to amend the 2024 Appropriation Act and the 2023 Finance Act by increasing the budget with ₦6.2tn.

Tinubu’s request was contained in a letter addressed to the President of the Senate, Godswill Akpabio, and read at plenary on Wednesday.

The President in the letter, said the move was pursuant to Section 58, sub-section two of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 as amended.

“I forward herewith the above bills for consideration and passage by the Senate.

“The Appropriation Act Amendment Bill 2024 seeks to amend the principal Act to provide the sum of N3.2 trillion for Renewed Hope infrastructure projects and other critical infrastructure projects to be undertaken across the country.

“And the sum of N3 trillion to meet further recurrent expenditure requirements, necessary for the proper operation by the Federal Government expenditure, which is to be funded by expected revenue accruing to the Federal Government of Nigeria,” the letter read.

Tinubu added that the proposed amendments to the Finance Act 2023 were required to impose a one-time windfall tax on the foreign exchange gains realised by banks in their 2023 financial statements.

He explained that this was to fund capital infrastructure development, education, healthcare access, and public welfare initiatives.

According to the President, all of the projects are essential components of the renewed hope agenda of the administration.

Tinubu had on January 1, 2024, assented to the N28.7 trillion 2024 Appropriation Bill passed by the Senate. On May 29, 2024, the President said he would present the 2024 Supplementary Budget to the National Assembly (NASS).

Bills Scale Second Reading
As of the time of filing this report, the Bill to Amend the Appropriation Act, 2024 to authorize the issue from the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federation the total sum of ₦3.2tn for Capital Expenditure, and the sum of ₦3tn for recurrent expenditure for the year ending on the 31st day of December 2024, has scaled 2nd reading in the House of Representatives.

Similarly, the Bill for an Act to Amend the Finance Act, 2023 to impose and charge Windfall Tax on Banks and Provide for the Administration of the Tax has also scaled 2nd reading.

https://www.channelstv.com/2024/07/17/tinubu-writes-national-assembly-to-raise-2024-budget-by-%E2%82%A66-2tn/

IfnobeGod20:
■ My brother you're misconstruing the constitution. There's no portion of the constitution that says the National Assembly shall have control over the local government, it is solely within the powers of the state assembly to exercise legislative functions over the local government administration and this is explicitly captured in section 162( as attached. There's no subsection of the section 162 that gave any oversight function of the local government administration to the National Assembly, none. I have attached herein for your perusal. The National Assembly only make law for the distribution of the accruals to the FG to each tier of government and nothing more. Check keenly the clauses as attached.
The my point above have answered your number 1 and 5.

Are you certain about any of the claim you made above in bold?

(3) Any amount standing to the credit of the Federation Account shall be distributed among the Federal and State Governments and the Local Government Councils in each State on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
(4) Any amount standing to the credit of the States in the Federation Account shall be distributed among the States on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
(5) The amount standing to the credit of Local Government Councils in the Federation Account shall also be allocated to the State for the benefit of their Local Government Councils on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
(7) Each State shall pay to Local Government Councils in its area of jurisdiction such proportion of its total revenue on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the National Assembly.
( The amount standing to the credit of Local Government Councils of a State shall be distributed among the Local Government Councils of that State on such terms and in such manner as may be prescribed by the House of Assembly of the State.
More: https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-162

Tjra:
Place South East on lockdown while you protest in another man's land ba? These guys think they are wise.
We will settle this nonsense once and for all this 2024. This isn't 2020.

The lockdowns which have further kept the south East behind needs to be protested by the people abeg! Sadly, their elected politicians are part and parcel of the problem and ought to be removed as well.

Saao:
They're helping us to publicize it and it getting more ground. I don't want to bother about it before but I'm 10% interested to join after all it's my right. If government don't want protest why not make things easy for us? Nigerians are not hard to govern at all,

You are only 10% interested in taking back your papa's land and your right?

goodnessme1:
I know he's working for apc since the day Kanu was kidnapped.

For him to believe oppressing and even going as far as putting his own people at risk makes him somehow better than those he pretends he is up against speaks volumes about that.