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Agugbadin:
∆ Exactly, you made I valid point.

He instead attempted to twist Elisha's act in order to justify a completely unrelated situation.

There is only one God of Israel, the God of their ancestors, and He is the God of all of the prophets of Israel. Elijah was a prophet of Israel, so also was Elisha an Israelite.

Adeboye is a Nigerian, so also are his ancestors. He has never claimed otherwise. So the one who is by default the god of Adeboye is the god of his ancestors and there are many possible options there given we are talking of Nigeria after all.

Edybleketara:
∆ Though there is nothing wrong with the above activities, what baffles me is that while they fervently and eagerly engage in these activities throughout their lives, they find it difficult to do the main thing that religion is supposed to be about which according to Jesus is to love one another, live a moral life and do good to others.

1. Additionally, it is hard to do that which one has little to no real understanding of. Jesus Christ defined His Kind of love as a set of rules. The vast majority of Nigerian Christianity are not informed on the details of these laws and are hence unable to show the Jesus Christ kind of love even if in the way some out in western nations attempt .

RexTramadol1:
∆ There is a reason it is said that wisdom of men is foolishness unto God. If you want to be rational, you’ll not even know anything. When Jesus asked Peter to go to the river bank, someone like you will use rationality in that situation but Peter simply believed.

Wisdom is indeed far from gullible folks such as yourself!

Agapeunit:
Pls find ur to rccg redemption camp n pass ds ur msg dere to d congregation.

if even Jesus Christ could not get to all of your false teachers and false prophets with His message which they pretend to carry with them everywhere, what good would my finding this rccg camp do for a false teacher and false prophet? Unlike you, I don't have a savior complex.

Agapeunit:
ds wont get to him! Search for his email or send it to dere (rccg) website.

if even Jesus Christ could not get to all of your false teachers and false prophets with His message which they pretend to carry with them everywhere, what good would my sending an email do?

Expanse2020:
come don't confused yourself
[b]You just said in a group that Jesus was not send from God of isreal ooo[/b]o. That the God of Jesus is different from Israel own

When you are ready to step away from lying, let me know.

Mandesz:
∆ Becareful with the men of God. Check the video and reason along. God is totally against abusing his annointings and curses are already on such people. Pastors are are not superhuman, they're people like u.
Don't ruin your life because u want to say sth!

You want me to reason along with the lies these men have obviously fed to you regarding the God you mistake the idol they instead worship with?

Did you know that Jesus Christ was the last prophet that was sent out by the God of Israel?

Did you know that Jesus Christ never sent out any prophets of His own and declared that all prophets after Him, yes, even the ones in the Book of Acts were to be considered by His followers as false prophets and false teachers?

Did you know that ...

I can go on and on about so many things you don't know all to help you see that these men have only been lying to you using the name of God of Israel and Jesus Christ whom they know nothing of..

Paramount01:
∆ You also forget to ask, which fish swallow Jonah

Jonah was an Israelite prophet of Israel and the fish which swallowed him a created of the God he served. Your question would make no sense in that case.

Greenfusion:
∆ This is powerful, read between the lines and get something for yourself, no amount of argument or insult here would change Who God is, neither would it change Adeboye..... salvation is personal, Adeboye is doing his own the way he can, do your own and don't be distracted...las las everyone would answer his or her own name....this is all i can say.

Salvation cannot be personal given that there exists only one Absolute Law for everyone of the Lost Sheep of Israel to obey. Stop chomping down on lies these men feed you.

Expanse2020:
∆ Did you want to make heaven shaa🤣🤣🤣
He said he drank tea where you there to know if it true or not..
∆ he his acclaimed prophet on his own na

He drank tea with his ancestral gods, maybe.

2. It is stated by the prophets and written in the Gospels that Jesus Christ is the Last Prophet sent by God of Israel. As Jesus Christ made clear, all others who come are false teachers and false prophets.

Tonytonex:
Mr too know or too wise. What do you have to say about this?
2Kings 2:14, “And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the LORD God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither:

Elijah was an Israelites so also was Elisha and the God of Israel of which both men are of is YHWH, the one and only God of Israel. The God of Israel made it known that He is God over only His people Israel --- no other people.

Adeboye is not an Israelite. He is a Nigerian. And as such when you invoke God of Adeboye,you by default invoke the god of His ancestors.

adams123:
■Apostle Paul that wrote half of new testament never met Jesus Christ in his life time.. How can he give account of what Jesus did and say?
In Islam, Qur'an that we are using as a book of guidance was given to Only Prophet Muhammad by GOD through Angel Gabriel. In this generation of ours, no one among us can't enter heaven except you are a Muslim.

Mohammed never met Jesus Christ either so how could he, Mohammed have given an account of what Jesus Christ said or did not say if not equally by fraud?

What Satan told Eve was not the Truth given that Death did come as a result of her actions - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 24. Also, the snake was not Satan but a snake.

KillIgbohoN0W:
We are living in the armageddon.The war has already been fought and we are the offsprings of the doomed that survived the Armageddon & abandoned in Hades.
The Almighty has already taken His chosen and left us to be ruled by Satan.
And No, the Bible is not fake nor lie. It is 100% real.
The only problem is where in the Bible we percieve ourselves to be. We still think we are pre-Revelation awaiting the 2nd Coming where our good deeds will be rewarded.
Wrong.

We are post-Revelation.
We are the unchosen that were left to suffer after the Great War.
This is why the laws of the Almighty no longer apply. The wicked live very long, the fornicators end up with happy marriages, thieves get wealthy.
So stop fooling yourselves practicing what no longer holds. God is no longer paying attention to us. Satan is in charge now. To survive you need to do the exact opposite of the Bible teachings. To feed your seeds you must commit a crime and that child will grow to become great unlike before when the repercussions affect him.
Wake up!

OP, go see a mental health therapist immediately! And stop hiding your own particular problem behind the mentions of the name of God abeg! Nah your mates full asylum so.

wiseoneking:
South Korea has the world largest church. Tell your government to work hard like the government of these two countries and stop blaming the church. You guys should wake up, church is there not to built your roads and industries but your government.

Nonsense claim! You men the presbyterian church which boasts of a membership population of just 100,000 is the world's largest church? Come on now! Get your facts right abeg!

Myung Sung Presbyterian Church is the largest Presbyterian church in the world.[citation needed] It is located in Myung-il-dong, Seoul, South Korea, with its Prayer Sanctuary in Wonju. Myung Sung Presbyterian Church has over thirty church plants, including Myung Sung First Presbyterian Church, founded in 2004, and Myung Sung Second Presbyterian Church, founded in 2006. There are an additional ten "screen" (video) churches. The founder and current senior pastor of the church is Dr. Kim Sam Whan.

It is important to note that the Law of Moses was the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan. That Covenant does not hold in any country or nation that exists today because the God of Israel put a seal on that Covenant when He destroyed Israel and its sister nation, Judah, about 1900 years later.

In the Nation of Israel, under the Law of Moses, Polygamy was allowed, even among the commoners. Polygamy was never made a sin in the Nation of Israel that existed in the Land of Canaan.

15 “A man might have two wives. He might love one wife more than the other. Both wives might have children for him, but the firstborn son might be from the wife he does not love.
16 When the man divides his property among his children, he cannot give the rights of the firstborn to the son of his favorite wife.
17 The man must accept the firstborn son from the wife he does not love. The man must give that son a double share of everything he owns because that son is his first child. The right of the firstborn belongs to that son. - Deuteronomy 21 vs 15 - 17

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7 “A man might decide to sell his daughter as a slave. If this happens, the rules for making her free are not the same as the rules for making the men slaves free.
8 If the master who chose her for himself is not pleased with her, then he can sell the woman back to her father. If the master broke his promise to marry her, he loses the right to sell her to other people.
9 If the master promised to let the slave woman marry his son, he must treat her like a daughter, not like a slave.
10 “If the master marries another woman, he must not give less food or clothing to the first wife. And he must continue to give her what she has a right to have in marriage.
11 The man must do these three things for her. If he does not, the woman is made free, and it will cost her nothing. She owes no money to the man. - Exodus 21 vs 7 - 11

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16 The king must not get more and more horses for himself. And he must not send people to Egypt to get more horses, because the Lord has told you, ‘You must never go back that way.’
17 Also, the king must not have too many wives, because that will make him turn away from the Lord. And he must not make himself rich with silver and gold. - Deuteronomy 17 vs 16 - 17

Scripture has never been the source of the confusion most boast of. Rather, religion has been the major source of the confusion most boast of.

ufotunang:
■ Pastors cannot make a country to be good and better..it's the president governors and politcians one voted into power that can make the country to be developed, better and good if they provide good goverance, good economic policies, provide constant electricity light, create a conducive environment for bussinesses companies industries to thrive, mechanised farming, local government autonomy.. rural development, good roads, make fuel disel and other petroleum products to be cheap and not involve in corrupt practices. and do other good things that will benefit their citizens... which all of this will make the economy and country to be good and better

So what exactly is the use of all of your many pastors, whom you folks go around forcing on citizens left and right through your many religious rituals, then? If they cannot help in making life good or better for the populace, what has all of their noise been for?

Dennisochampa:
.... Bros..... Both Christians, Muslims and traditional worshippers are all corrupt in 9ja..don't pin it on Christianity alone

No arguments there at all! They are all corrupt even in Nigeria.

Judolisco:
■ It's jst how people speak in tongues right now that baffles me.... You're asked to pray a prayer for repentance of sin... And suddenly u start speaking in tongues.... Dis stuff shouldn't even be up for discussion..... 1st Corinthians 14:27-28 D bible says if anyone speaks in a tongue, two--or at the most three--should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret..... D next verse says If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God...... But now I see people jst speaking in tongues anyhow... Wetin dey xup na

Pray which prayer for what abeg?

First of all, there is no such thing as a "repentance prayer" in Scripture, not according to Jesus Christ. Second, Jesus Christ urged His followers to pray in secret and hiding. So when you folks pray your many prayers in the open and in full view and hearing of others, how do you convince yourselves that it is the same Jesus Christ and His Father who command the exact opposite that your cries go to? Na wa oo!

Jesus Christ's talk says that speaking in tongues which will follow His own is the speaking of known languages — since there is no such thing as an unknown/Alien language as language was used from the beginning by humans. How Christians reason every time that Jesus Christ must have had it all wrong and that they know better than He did of the workings of His own Kingdom never ceases to amaze.

Gabayo17:
you and others that hate the Church of God

My hate is instead for the many lies the scammers tell all while using the name of Jesus Christ. So, answer the question? Which hell cause the hell that is Nigeria today was created during the same almost 5 decade period that this man and his ilk were busy running their games on the minds of Nigerians.

Gabayo17:
The Church is matching on and the gate of hell shall not prevail

Which hell? The hell that Adeboye and his gang have helped create in Nigeria or which one?

femicyrus:
■ Really!! Judas the treasurer did all you've just mentioned here? Please kindly post any prove he did as said.
■ If you say the 183k are not better than Judas in rccg, then you should also provide evidence. Don't just type rubbish here without evidence because operamini dash you 50mb.
■ Look at how I remove 1 out of every 12 in 200,000 to get an approximate number of 17k. That is logic That is how to argue facts not what u posted like a headless chicken

According to the Gospels, Judas was anointed by Jesus Christ to go out there and preach the Gospel in See Mark 6:6; Matthew 10:5–10; and Luke 9:1. There is no report that Judas did not do as the other disciples did nor that the power that Jesus Christ anointed Judas Iscariot with failed. So, yes, Judas did it all as well.

2. Provide evidence? None of the 183,000 are even to this day able to heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out demons 100% of the time like the apostles were able to as recorded in the Book of Acts. The light of Jesus Christ remains nowhere to be found even after 40 years of this man and his minions ruling over Nigeria. What more evidence do you need?

3. This logic of yours is what clearly constitutes rubbish reasoning!

Dododudu:
■ This sounds funny sha because all RCCG pastors are paying tax. Ask any pastor you know.

You mean they have to pay tax on the income they draw?

Antichristus:
Many of them are not called let alone chosen.

Who "called" Adeboye?

femicyrus:
An average of about 17,000 Judas Iscariot are parading themselves as pastor in rccg every Sunday if the church has 200,000 pastors.

Rubbish! At least when Judas was with Jesus Christ, he too did miracles— healed the sick, raised the dead, cast out demons— and preached with the other disciples. What work have the 183000 you excluded done to show themselves any better than Judas Iscariot was?

francotunsco:
■ Those are your words, who am i to argue with you. My only concern is the fact that wrong date was quoted.

The date, 2018, belongs to the picture that was posted as part of the article.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/04/rccg-has-over-200000-pastors-in-nigeria-adeboye/#google_vignette

jmoore:
The journalist that published this needs to be flogged. The title is completely different from the content.
He was talking about pastors in Nigeria, not RCCG pastors.

RCCG is reported to have at least 32000 parishes across Nigeria alone, each with probably an average of 5 pastors(copastors, senior, junior/youth, etc.) per parish. When you consider that many of those parishes are manned by several Pastors, you will see how that number is not far from the truth.

gohf:
Hmmm, it's well. They all have their errors and mistakes, just wish they would love and forgive one another sha 🤷🏽‍♂️ Me I pray I no go mistakenly sow seed way go fight me later 🙏🏽

Does that even happen in fantasy movies? Abeg!

francotunsco:
...preaching at the ongoing 2018 Holy Ghost Congress at the km 46, Lagos-Ibadan expressway camp of the church Photos Lamidi Bamidele. Who else noticed the emboldened? 2018 keh?

It doesn't make the statement any better or easier to swallow. 200,000 scammers all pretending to be disciples of Jesus Christ yet not a single light of Jesus Christ to be seen in anywhere Nigeria ought to cause anyone with a brain to realize this man's business has always been a huge ponzi scheme.

Yashita:
I wish thus could be over 200,000 industries

Industrialization wouldn't be as far from Nigeria as it remains to date.

Googledotcom:
Those who enjoy criticizing the church, you can see the huge number one section of the church employs. What your politicians cannot do.

LOL.... this man's business boasts of over 200,000 employees yet not a single one of his disciples or the man himself has been able to repeat any of the actual good works done by Jesus Christ. The business does not generate income nor produce any tangible product but consumes the very lives of its consumers. Why are you so blind?

Savedday2:
No be small thing ooh! 200,000 free labourers. If na me, I go get 10 private jet. Do you know what it means to have groups of free labourers working very hard for your business to succeed without pay and they are very dedicated and happy with the promise that God will bless them?

Free laborers ke? The company with its pyramid scheme format supposed to dey pay them a salary. Why would anyone do that work for free?