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Michael547:
∆ Where are they na?
You sef no know them. And you say you get family.
Abi dem sef no dey find you?
Why una dey hide from each other and una call una sef family. Which kind family disagreement be this?

Hide? Jesus Christ promised His disciples that in return for abandoning all their earthly belongings and connections, He would reward them with more than they had - Matthew 19 vs 26 -30. Is the reward not worth waiting for?

Michael547:
∆ So why are you here discussing the bible with people if you are really not out of your mind and if you believe that you are a follower of christ?
∆ So where are the family members that Jesus has promised to give to you?

Kobojunkie:
Unlike you I am not looking for ways to be in agreement with other people but opportunities to teach what I know to others so I can move up in my stance with my master who commands that i use the understanding that I have in order to have more understanding given to me by the Father.

2. All those who are His are my family members, an Eternal family.

Michael547:
∆ Meaning that none of the apostles children were followers of christ. They never heard about christ from their parents mouth. And even if they did follow christ, their parents was never aware. Oga do you see that you have a problem?

I have a problem because you don't believe what Jesus Christ Himself said to those who belong to Him?

lomprico:
∆ Everything! Sabbath as u say is on Saturday not Sunday.

I said that Jesus Christ has everyday of the week as the Sabbath in the Kingdom of God. The Saturday Sabbath applies only to those of the Old Law who live in the Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan.

Another delusion of religion is that one can have kids and then take those kids along to Jesus Christ and His Heaven. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Jesus Christ pretty much said all who will be worthy of Him have to abandon mother, father, children, wife, husband, etc. The same Jesus Christ said God's permission/blessing belongs to those who would live as Eunuchs for His Kingdom. To told women with children to cry for themselves and their children; while to the barren and single women He spoke God's blessings to.

Jesus Christ said to His followers that He will give them others for brothers, sisters, mothers, children and these others are other people in the Kingdom of God who obey the Will of the Father.

Surely, the kingdom of God is not even a place you can take your own children along with you. However, Christianity lies and deceived millions of gullible souls each year into believing they can take their families and children along with them into God's very own Heaven. What a scam! .

Michael547:
∆ You and the op are definitely not in agreement when it comes to the teachings of christ. So who among the two of you is the liar?

Can you be more specific.

Unlike you I am not looking for ways to be in agreement with other people but opportunities to teach what I know to others so I can move up in my stance with my master who commands that i use the understanding that I have in order to have more understanding given to me by the Father.

otherway:
∆ STOP playing.
Your apology is accepted but the excuse no follow.
One page can contain so much. Just try adding paragraph snext time.
Pastor chris is an amazing teacher but he is not real when it comes to these orchestrated miracles.
I believe in miracles 200% but nobody televises a miraculous act in anticipation except it is planned.

Amazing teacher of what exactly?

ahmedio2017:
∆ Are you ok at all? If God laws are completed why then did he sent Jesus again ?
Mathew 5:17
“Don’t think that I have come to ABOLISH the TORAH or the prophets. I have come not to ABOLISH but to COMPLETE.

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH I THINK THAT is ONE OF YOUR PROBLEM.

Sigh! Every individual who lives under God's Law is required to fulfill the requirements of the Law of the land in order to attain Holiness and then be approved Righteous by the Law. That was what was expected of every Israelite in the land of Israel, including Jesus Christ who told you in that verse that He took, an Israelite who lived under the Will of His Father,the God of Israel, was expected to do the same.

I'm Scripture, God gave Law to Adam. He gave Law to Noah. God gave Law to Abraham, and God gave Law to Israel. God is God of Laws and His contracts/Laws are according to His Will and decision.

truthfulsearch:
∆ It's understandable to question teachings that seem detached from Jesus Christ's essence.
∆ However, examining religious principles often reveals deeper connections to his teachings, albeit in diverse interpretations.
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∆ So, while questioning is natural, exploring the wisdom inherent in various religious teachings can enrich one's spiritual journey and potentially deepen their connection to Jesus Christ's teachings.

If the idea is conclusively detached from the essence of Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, meaning the idea does not conform with the Truth of God, what is the essence of examining it then?

2. How can a lie contain what you term a deeper connection to the Truth of God?

3. This all seems like an attempt to make relevant religious ideas which are proven not to be from or of God. What is there to gain from such vanity and sin? Yes, it is sin against God to sanction that which He never commanded using His name.

Uzobejeme:
Everything you wrote is the truth. I took my mom there and with her pain she was still jumping but nada. Synagogue is worse. May God help us all.

Did your mom get healed of her pain?

ahmedio2017:
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Stop Rambling if you don't understand what is being told you.

Again, there are over 4000 deities out there. And Allah of the Muslims is not the God of Israel nor His son, Jesus Christ.

2. Allah of the Muslims may have for himself a religion but the God of Israel does not have a religion. Neither does His Son, Jesus Christ, have a religion.

3. The Constitutional Laws that belong to the God of Israel are Eternal Laws and hence cannot be amended. Allah may have had men amend his laws but the Laws given by the God of Israel cannot be amended, not even by men.

4. His Constitutional Laws are defined in Scripture. The Law of Moses is the Eternal Law of the Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan. And Jesus Christ is the Constitutional Law in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom that is not of this world. Each Law houses the details, terms and conditions, of the contract between God and man -- His teachings, commandments, promises, curses for disobedience and blessings for the holy and righteous. And that contract cannot be revoked or changed by men.

Aemmyjah:
∆ Kobojunkie does not agree with the highlighted
Kindly mention the true church if there's any according to you

When did you begin to read my mind on my behalf? When exactly did you acquire this superpower? why are you folks so desperate to even lie in order to lift ordinary men up above God Himself?

Jesus Christ said in John 8 vs 31 - 44 that those who are slaves to sin are children of their father, the devil, whereas those who know the truth of God are set free from slavery to sin by the spirit of Truth who is also the Holy Spirit of God's New Covenant in the Kingdom of God who transforms them into sons of God. Sons of God are not slaves to sin.

lomprico:
It does, when does a new week start?

What has that to do with the topic?

mbaise1000:
@∆ You are still on the same spot, I asked you what will happen when the end time Jesus talked about happen, you will not answer, now you said there 8s one end time, and that it happened 1900 years ago and according to what Jesus said will happen at that end,
∆ we are still here which means it haven't happened, you can continue in whatever it is you believe,

I keep answering the same question over and over by your referencing the scriptures.

2. We are still here means it hasn't happened? Earlier you said you believed Jesus Christ but now you say Jesus Christ lied. Why are you all over the place?

ahmedio2017:
∆ The ways you guys reasons is out of it, I challenged you, I asked you questions you can't answer the questions. You will just be diverting ah ah God even your so called god of Israel didn't recognized Christianity. If no then prove us wrong? Now I wasn't referring to your god of Israel oooo what concerns me ?

I'm referring to God (ALLAH ) who created both Israel and the entire world and heaven and whatever things that is inside....

What do you mean God have no religion? Are you ok at all?

What is religion?
Did Jesus worshiped/served God?
If yes how does Jesus worshiped his Lord?
What is the correlation between how Jesus Christ PBUH worshiped his God and how you Christians worshiping God....

1. You are not paying attention at all. I said the God of Israel, the Father of Jesus Christ, who is also the creator of All things including Satan, did not give man any religion --- not Judaism, Christianity, nor Islam.

2. In Scripture, God gave to men His Laws -- Constitutional Laws, and his one and only mandate to men is obedience to His Law -- His teachings and commandments. Therefore, in Scripture,to Worship God is to obey Hks teachings and commandments as stipulated in His Law. All other ideas of worship that men have have nothing to do with Him, the God of Israel or His Son, Jesus Christ

Again, God of Israel and Jesus Christ, His Son, have absolutely nothing to do with the Allah of the Muslims.

Countyguy:
Why are Christians concerned with survival skills when all they've been praying for is to go to heaven lol

Jesus Christ said that it is those who lose their lives that will save it. Christians of course disagree with Him. They would rather hang on tight to the life they have because for them that is the only way they can save it.

loftyflint:
I bind you devils in JESUS mighty name, amen

Devil that caught you lying?

Plus1234:
I repeat ,may evil locate you and your family.

Jesus Christ commanded His followers to love their enemies, and to pray FOR, NOT AGAINST them. But clearly, to you, Jesus Christ is nothing but some fool who spoke words, right? Yet you wish for us to believe that your religion is tied to the very same man whose words you obviously abhor! Worse, you think you are better than the men in the OP who have probably chosen to no longer scam themselves in the name of religion at least. WOW...

Charmingrascal:
■ These are not Christians these are closet traditionalists who were hiding under Christianity. ■ Now they have decided to be open about their devotion to the gods of their forefathers.

But that is what most Nigerian Christians are, with their covering everything in blood, using their bibles as though a book of incantation, calling down fire on this enemy and that enemy, etc.

2. Devotion to gods of which fathers? Fathers they know or the ones dey abandoned long ago for gutter somewhere? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

AkinPhysicist:
Best decision. Islam and Christianity are scams.

Na only those two you know say na scam?

Truths9ja:
he’s never a bishop in the first place. He’s a clueless traditionalist. Why burning Bible? Why can’t he set his shrine ablaze. He’s a clueless traditionalist

What is his name and what is the location?

Plus1234:
I always know you are Antichrist,it gives you joy to go against the Lord and his Word.I can see you smiling because someone burn the Bible. Because of your endless attack on the Body Of Christ, I pray that evil locate you wherever you are on this planet.May your life full of regrets upon regrets.

This from someone who denies every statement spoken by Jesus Christ — The Word of God Himself —written right there in the Gospels? HA! HA!!

Cluckinbird:
■ So I m not being wrong or rude for not giving them details and not involving myself with the fact he doesn’t communicate with her so often ? I think I am old enough to stop listening to her I have made so many mistakes due to me indulging in her advice she refuses to admit to this I m on the road to correcting this how do I break free from her without being a bad child

Old enough? Your mates don born pikin, even small dem go become grandma When are you going to learn to fly on your own if you haven't even done that at this point in your life? Or are you hiding vital information from us in this? Is your mother your caregiver? Is she like a caregiver of yours? Are you intellectually challenged or something?

ShoeGetSize:
■ Having a personal relationship[b] with Christ is a subjective experience meant only for those who have had a genuine conversion and acceptance of the substitutionary sacrifice of Christ.[/b] As a perditissimi, someone like you will NEVER experience such a relationship because your time on earth as a perditissimi is simply to mark time before you spend eternity languishing in the flames along with your master Satan. Unless of course you accept the gift of salvation freely offered to you, eternity will be a grim experience for you.
■ Jesus condemned hypocrisy, not true religious devotion. He condemned those who used religion to massage their own egos and whose only purpose for doing good was to earn the praise of men, instead of doing God's will. Jesus praised the examples of true and righteous manifestations of faith thar He came across. Your ignorance of Christian doctrine doesn't surprise me. I didn't expect anything less from you.
■ I defended Christianity, not "religion." Religion is a broad and anomalous term that can include even the most absurd of ideologies. I can't defend all religion, I can only speak from the perspective of the Christian doctrine that I profess.
■ The label of fool and liar which you sought to bestow on the Holy Name of Christ, rightfully belongs to you because it fits your status as a perditissimi.

1. A subjective experience yet Jesus Christ said gave all of His followers the exact same Law— teachings and commandments, including details of associated curses and blessings — which is Constitutional Law in the Kingdom of God which all His followers are mandated to obey. Jesus Christ said He is the Light and it is this exact same Light that all of HIs followers are to exude. Are you insinuating that what God does is He bends His Light that is Jesus Christ in such a way as to tailor fit Him(Jesus Christ) to the whims of the individuals who are His followers? Was the experience written about the disciples on the day of Pentecost a subjective experience?

2. WOW!! You have never read the book yourself, have you?

The God of Israel disavowed the shepherds of His time calling them all thieves who come to steal, to kill, and to destroy His flock - Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 31. Jesus Christ repeated the same message in His Gospel, declaring that not only was He the Last prophet sent from the God of Israel, but that He was also the good Shepherd - implying all other shepherds are bad shepherds - John 10 vs 7 - 16 - , and all others who come after Him claiming to be prophets are all frauds. Jesus Christ also said that He alone is teacher to all those who belong to Him insinuating that all others who come as teachers are frauds.

So we see that Jesus Christ condemned all those who would approach others in His name claiming to be Shepherd, master, teacher, prophet, Head/authority -- all that your religious leaders do among other things — what makes you think Jesus Christ did not intend to completely cut off all religious leaders beginning with even those of His time?

3. Christian doctrine which runs counter to the Truth as declared in the Gospel by Jesus Christ is what you defend so how can you claim to be of Him?

4. I didn't bestow anything on Jesus Christ since it is instead those of you who practice that which contradicts His teachings and commandments while using His name that freely condemns him as such.

ahmedio2017:
■ You are the one that is misguided... No evidence of Christianity or Trinity even in your Bible isn't that a scam? Christianity is a business religion, invented by Man and not God or Jesus

All religions are businesses and they are all scams. The God of Israel disavowed religion beginning with Judaism which was an extract from the days of the people in Babylon. So, if you think your religion has a place, you are wrong.

The main here is that The God of Israel is not the Allah of the Muslims who condones religion. The God of Israel never gave religion to any men; neither did His Son, Jesus Christ.

BreconHills:
■ It is not my practice to take anything away from God's honour by arguing scripture in public. I realize it is contemporary but I am restrained by 2 Tim 2:14
■ I do want to ask a question though. Did the scriptures not say that believers are grafted into Abraham by faith? Romans 11:17-32 That the gentiles are the wild olive and Israel is the natural olive. Does it not say that by this God had created one new man having a polished the dividing line or enmity between them through Christ? Ephesians 2:15?
■ Your answers will determine if there is a basis for continuing this discussion privately. I look forward to your answer.

1. Interesting! So, Paul, not Jesus Christ, is the one whose commands or views you live by? Yet, Jesus Christ made clear that those who belong to Him listen only to Him. Was Paul trying to turn against Jesus Christ?

2. No, Scripture never did say you are grafted by faith to Abraham. Even if we are to pretend that it did, here is the problem, Jesus Christ said that He was sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel - The children of Jacob; they are the ones Jesus Christ came to save from God's curse of sin in Deuteronomy 28 vs 12 - 56 & Leviticus 26 vs 12 - 44.. And Abraham was not a child of Jacob but rather a progenitor of Jacob. So it does not matter whether you assume that what Paul said meant you were grafted to Abraham or not, so long as you are not of the blood of Jacob Himself, you cannot have Jesus Christ.

Additionally, what is written in Scripture is that the life of a man is in his blood. To be of Israel — Jacob— one has to have the literal blood of Jacob running through his or her veins. Paul knew this and could not have made a claim contrary to that which was spoken by God Himself.

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Recall, that God Himself spoke from Heaven calling on His people to obey Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the only standard those who belong to Him are meant to listen to and obey. This is what God Himself said should be so. So, I am surprised you are quoting Paul at me as if to suggest that Paul, not Jesus Christ, is the one who is instead God over you. And worse, you misconstrue the words of Paul as is. But in all, wouldn't it make more sense to abandon Jesus Christ altogether to follow these interpretations you have of the statements made by God?

ShoeGetSize:
■ I'm under Christ my Saviour with whom I have a personal relationship.
■ I do not take my doctrine or salvation from human sources so I'm not a perditissimi like you and those men.

Newsflash! You cannot claim to have a "personal" relationship with Jesus Christ if the dimensions of the relationship you claim to have with Him are as defined by your gods of men— religious leaders— and not by Jesus Christ Himself. So, don't fool yourself abeg!

2. Jesus Christ condemned religion beginning with the religious leaders of His time. Yes, Judaism, the frontrunner of the religion of Christianity, was condemned by Jesus Christ. He not only dished out curses(woes) against the religious leaders in Judaism but Jesus Christ also denounced their doctrines and traditions, proclaiming them lies meant to deceive and delude many away from the Truth of God - AntiChrist. Jesus Christ had nothing good or remotely right to say of the religious leaders of His time, and for this, He was executed by them.

For you to come here to defend religion, which Jesus Christ tasked His followers with avoiding, you obviously either think Jesus Christ was a liar and a fool, or you don't know Him at all.

HoneySwag:
■ Having children is very good but when you have so much expectations, you may end up disappointed. What about situations the children turned out to be nuisance in the society? How many of such children remember their aging parents?

Or with disabilities of their own and in need of care themselves?

jayce232:
■ I clearly understand how u feel. But why not consider adoption? I know adoption may not be the ultimate solution, but I clearly believe it is still better. You only get to feel the child is not biological, but every other thing a child will do will no longer be missed.

Adoption is not for everyone. Did you take time to read through what she wrote at all? I would not recommend adoption to every case out there.

loftyflint:
■Please don't get me wrong. I am not saying the 7 year time interval or the tribulation begins on the 8th of April. Scripture says Tue time or the hour nobody knows except The FATHER in heaven

This is what Jesus Christ said of the tribulation He described in His Gospel.

29 “Right after the trouble of those days, this will happen:‘The sun will become dark, and the moon will not give light.The stars will fall from the sky, and everything in the sky will be changed.’[c]
30 “Then there will be something in the sky that shows the Son of Man is coming. All the people of the world will cry. Everyone will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds in the sky. He will come with power and great glory.
31 He will use a loud trumpet to send his angels all around
32 “The fig tree teaches us a lesson: When its branches become green and soft, and new leaves begin to grow, then you know that summer is very near.
33 In the same way, when you see ALL these things happening, you will know that the time[d] is very near, already present.
34 I assure you that ALL these things will happen while some of the people of this time are still living.
35 The whole world, earth and sky, will be destroyed, but my words will last forever. - Matthew 24 vs 32 - 35

Do you believe All of what Jesus Christ said of the events to take place during the end of time took place about 1900 years ago as Jesus Christ assured they would or do you reject these claims made by Jesus Christ in His Gospel?

BreconHills:
▶ I am not so quick to cast off church even though I am a member of a small non denominational house church - any form or structure can become religious even if it starts out law and doctrine free. I may not believe in the "church" system but I do believe that just like in the temple of old, there are sincere seekers in every structure and in every place - even a bar or clu .
▶ Now when it comes to who I fellowship and do life with then I will not be unequally yoked but I try to bear in mind that Jesus did not come for those who were well, he came for sinners. Outreach and fellowship in my mind are two quite different things.

What makes you think your church system is even remotely similar to the Temple system of Old? What gives you that idea? The fact that your religious leaders compare your churches to the Temple or what?

2. I don't quite follow what you mean. Who exactly do you think the sinners whom Jesus Christ said He came for are?

According to Jesus Christ, His Father sent Him only to the Lost sheep of Israel — the sinners of Israel condemned to the curse of Death by the God of Israel. They are the ones who are the sinners Jesus Christ was sent to. Additionally, Jesus Christ warned His followers not to give that which is Holy to the dogs(non-Israelites) - Matthew 7 vs 6 -making it abundantly clear that non-Israelites have nothing to do with the Kingdom of God.

Given this, who do you "fellowship" or do "outreach" with? People whom Jesus Christ said have nothing to do with Him? Or people who you are in fact certain are of the blood of Jacob, which?

ShoeGetSize:
He should embrace the stupidity called atheism which says that life originated from non life. That's where he belongs.

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Those men in the OP's picture were themselves bishops, lying and deceiving people for many years. They were already atheists before this confession of theirs but they hid it behind lies for so long. What makes you think that you are not under men of the same caliber in your claim to religion?