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Christianity EtcRe: Thread: The Denominations Are Not The Church by Kobojunkie: 8:22pm On Mar 28, 2024
BreconHills:
■ I like your exalted view of the church and this is certainly the position of the NT. I used to say what passes for church on Sunday is at best a public crusade. I think people mistake the crowds following Jesus for his disciples. The challenge is we have a low entry bar for church and the level of fellowship/collectiveness is also low - because we are bargaining and negotiating with the flesh. It should be high bar, high fellowship/collective. I suggest however that restoration not focus on sounding a clarion call to the world but first building the model that others can be invited into. God will bring those in whom he is working and add them to his kingdom himself.
LOL.... that ain't it at all. Religion in and of itself is against God, Jesus Christ. To find Jesus Christ, not only must you distance yourself from religion, you must also do so following the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, teachings that do not even conform to any of what you have learned or heard from the mouth of your religious leaders to date. undecided

When Jesus Christ cast woes on all those who would turn to religion using His name, He wasn't just doing so against Judaism but against every other system that would come associating His name with such wickedness. Your so-called church fathers and religious leaders openly admit that the religion of Christianity which they follow was modeled after Judaism, do they not? Since Jesus Christ reigned curses on Judaism, what do you think He would do to Christianity if not the very same? grin
FamilyRe: Will I Regret Not Having Children by Kobojunkie:
Jeezuzpick:
■ I'm not too different from you. We just have different experiences. I know of few couples with no children around or at all, but they're waaaaay in the minority. Most childless couples I know are young, like thirties to forties.
Many of those I met growing up, even in the village, were old. They do exist! Some had already lost their last companion (partner) and were living alone at the time. Very sad stories of how having kids does not serve as a guarantee of any kind, they had. undecided
Christianity EtcRe: 3 Reasons You Must GREE For JESUS by Kobojunkie: 8:11pm On Mar 28, 2024
ahmedio2017:
■You lacks understanding.... Moses, Aaron, Abraham, Solomon David are all Muslims Judaism believe in ONENESS of God same thing applicable to ISLAM, Jesus Christ PBUH is a MUSLIM and he believed in oneness of God. Jesus Christ PBUH is a word of God now the question is what is the meaning of word of God? Remember God created heaven and the earth with his word.
Now what is the meaning of that word?
Please stop telling yourself these fables! God of Israel is not Allah of the Muslims. If you cannot accept this little fact, then what you do as a Muslim is insult not only your Mohammed but also Allah of the Muslims by claiming he is a double-dealing conniving monster of a deity. undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Thread: The Denominations Are Not The Church by Kobojunkie: 8:08pm On Mar 28, 2024
For those not aware, what God of Israel, and His Son, Jesus Christ gave to men were Constitutional Laws to the very nations that they promised to me, and the only mandate given from God to men has been obedience to His Law — every teaching and commandment in it.

▶ God of Israel constituted the Nation of Israel of the children of Israel whom He rescued from slavery in Egypt. He gave them His Law through Moses and bade them obey His Law to prove themselves worthy of His promises to them in the Nation of Israel right there in the Land of Canaan.
▶ Jesus Christ constituted the Kingdom of God to make followers of all who were judged and condemned by the God of Israel for refusing to obey His Law in the Nation of Israel in the land of Canaan. His promise He gave to those of them who would accept Him as the only path to redemption, and submit to His mandate which is equally obedience of God's Law and teachings in the Kingdom of God. God's Law and Teaching in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, is a Constitutional Law that all citizens of the Kingdom of God are urged by Him to abide by.

God never gave religion to men; He gave only His Law and His sole mandate is obedience to His Law.
Christianity EtcRe: Breaking News!! Bishop Denounce Christianity In Edo: Burn Bible!! Photos. by Kobojunkie: 8:01pm On Mar 28, 2024
obiekunie01:
oga! na where you stand self?? today u r defending abrahamic faith and quoting bible! next you are denouncing it! pls stop confusing thunder!
Your confusion has absolutely nothing to do with me. The God of Israel, along with His Son, Jesus Christ, disavowed religion. You would know this if you ever actually read the books written about them for yourself. Jesus Christ is famously known for condemning the religious leaders of His curse, distancing Himself from their doctrines and traditions which He famously regarded as antiChrist lies. undecided

What God of Israel, and His Son, Jesus Christ gave to men were Constitutional Laws to the very nations that they promised to me, and the only mandate given from God to men has been obedience to His Law — every teaching and commandment in it. undecided

Religion is not of God but of men, the same as their political and traditional systems. lipsrsealed
FamilyRe: Will I Regret Not Having Children by Kobojunkie: 7:54pm On Mar 28, 2024
Jeezuzpick:
■ How do you know they're common?
I grew up noticing many of those folks around even as many others turned their noses up at them like they were invisible or not to be regarded at all. lipsrsealed
FamilyRe: My Friend Faces Dilemmas Over A Partner's Child Adoption. by Kobojunkie: 7:42pm On Mar 28, 2024
Abbeytoy:
■ Not because there was no love, but because they can't reach a compromise about the child. Still optimistic there'll be a way out and the reason I brought it here for more people to help
Love is not enough to make a relationship work. Your friend felt strongly enough about the adoption thing and her stance against it seems equally strong. Even if she eventually bends on her part to accommodate him, there will always be the fact that he considered leaving her because of the disagreement. I think that amounts to a relationship red flag. undecided
FamilyRe: Will I Regret Not Having Children by Kobojunkie: 7:40pm On Mar 28, 2024
Jeezuzpick:
■ How common are those? If they're common around you, you need to change location.
How do you know they aren't common if it never even crossed your mind that they may just be there in your face without you even noticing them and their plight? undecided
FamilyRe: My Friend Faces Dilemmas Over A Partner's Child Adoption. by Kobojunkie: 7:32pm On Mar 28, 2024
Abbeytoy:
■ Hmmmm, be like something o
Since your friend has already considered leaving, there is no point in him remaining with her. undecided
FamilyRe: He Escaped Being A Victim Of Paternity Fraud by Kobojunkie: 7:26pm On Mar 28, 2024
pocohantas:
In a nutshell, na man dey do man.
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FamilyRe: My Friend Faces Dilemmas Over A Partner's Child Adoption. by Kobojunkie: 7:24pm On Mar 28, 2024
Abbeytoy:
■ Should he let the lady go or not having anything to do with the boy?
Duh! undecided
FamilyRe: My Friend Faces Dilemmas Over A Partner's Child Adoption. by Kobojunkie: 7:23pm On Mar 28, 2024
Abbeytoy:
A friend of mine is about to marry a single mother of one. My friend doesn't have any issues with the lady. But he wants to adopt the baby legally before he can spend on him, but it seems the lady doesn't want that and is not taking the adoption seriously.
So this friend of mine is insisting on not allowing the boy to his house or supporting her on anything about him if he won't have any legal authority over the boy. This guy loves the lady, as we all know, but he's considering letting her go if they can't come to terms with the baby. My friend is also a single father of one boy and is doing all his responsibilities. We all also like this lady, and we don't want them to part as it seems they're perfect for each other. Please, how can he handle the situation and how can we helped them.
This is a no-brainer though! The adoption thing seems to be a deal breaker. Commonsense is your friend should quit the relationship and move on. undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Breaking News!! Bishop Denounce Christianity In Edo: Burn Bible!! Photos. by Kobojunkie:
Toeyota:
@General Ditari. A popular bishop in Edo State has denounced Christianity,burn his Bible and embraced African Traditional Religion. In his words, 'We have been deceiving and lying to people and staging miracles all these years. My conscience wouldn't allow me to continue with these lies. If you claim you can heal any sickness or perform any miracle with the name of Jesus, I challenge you to come forward."
He is tired of the scam that is Christianity. Here is hoping he will accord the same freedom of choice to others. 😁
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by Kobojunkie: 7:12pm On Mar 28, 2024
Read rev 10 vs7 and read rev 11 vs 15.
The information described in much of Revelations, Seven Trumpets, horsemen stories, and so on, all took place about 1900 years ago, as Jesus Christ said they all would. undecided
6 The angel made a promise by the power of the one who lives forever and ever. He is the one who made the skies and all that is in them. He made the earth and all that is in it, and he made the sea and all that is in it. The angel said, “There will be no more waiting!
7 In the days when the seventh angel is ready to blow his trumpet, God’s secret plan will be completed—the Good News that God told to his servants, the prophets.” - Revelations 10 vs 6 - 7
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15 The seventh angel blew his trumpet. Then there were loud voices in heaven. The voices said,“The kingdom of the world has now become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah. And he will rule forever and ever.”
16 Then the 24 elders bowed down on their faces and worshiped God. These are the elders who sit on their thrones before God.
17 The elders said, “We give thanks to you, Lord God All-Powerful. You are the one who is and who always was. We thank you because you have used your great power and have begun to rule.
18 The people of the world were angry, but now is the time for your anger. Now is the time for the dead to be judged. It is time to reward your servants, the prophets, and to reward your holy people, the people, great and small, who respect you. It is time to destroy those people who destroy the earth!”
19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened. The Box of the Agreement[b] could be seen in his temple. Then there were flashes of lightning, noises, thunder, an earthquake, and a great hailstorm. - Revelations 11 vs 15 - 19
FamilyRe: Will I Regret Not Having Children by Kobojunkie: 6:55pm On Mar 28, 2024
Uchesis:
■ Jesus didn't marry, neither did his disciples. God doesn't have a wife, neither satan the devil. Angels don't marry, infact all the angels are male. Yet no one is asking them why? grin
Religion of Christianity is a total scam! undecided

Anyone who wants to truly follow Jesus Christ, man or woman, would, like His disciples, live as a Eunuch. But the many pastors and gods of men no go wan hear that one because for them it makes no sense if their many fleshly needs have to be catered to using the name of God. undecided
Christianity EtcRe: 3 Reasons You Must GREE For JESUS by Kobojunkie: 6:51pm On Mar 28, 2024
Kukutenla:
■ Quote bible. Na grammar full ground instead. You nor get talk. You just like the sound of your keypad
lipsrsealed
Christianity EtcRe: Thread: The Denominations Are Not The Church by Kobojunkie: 6:38pm On Mar 28, 2024
newbornmacho:
■ Denominations are not church like the op said
God is anti-Religion and Religion is itself a collection of denominations. Whether you are dealing with the religion of Hinduism, Paganism, Islam, Judaism, Politics, Tradition, or even Christianity, they all follow the same structure, which is that they serve as the parent body for many sects/cults/groups grouped under them. undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Thread: The Denominations Are Not The Church by Kobojunkie: 6:12pm On Mar 28, 2024
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Anywho, God of Israel who instead gave His people Law and warned them against following of the idols and religions in His Name, sent His Son, Jesus Christ who was one with His Father. The Son distanced Himself from the religious leaders of His time, denouncing their doctrines as lies designed to deceive God's sheep away from the Truth of God. undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Thread: The Denominations Are Not The Church by Kobojunkie: 5:59pm On Mar 28, 2024
Jesus Christ was a hypocrite? He distanced Himself from even the religion of His time, just as His Father did. But all of that was a lie? 😯😯😯😯😯
Christianity EtcRe: The Fellowship Of His Suffering – Philippians 3:10 by Kobojunkie: 5:43pm On Mar 28, 2024
truthfulsearch:
■ Understanding spiritual commitment can be challenging. It's about dedicating yourself to a higher purpose, often guided by faith or beliefs. It involves practices like prayer, meditation, and service to others. It's unique to each individual and evolves over time.
These are lists that pretty much every religion out there spews. One thing I know though is that this list has nothing to do with that in fact commanded and taught by Jesus Christ. So how does following this prescription get anyone closer to Jesus Christ or HIs kind of suffering assuming it exists? undecided
FamilyRe: Will I Regret Not Having Children by Kobojunkie: 5:39pm On Mar 28, 2024
Jeezuzpick:
Not so, my sister. I won't tell people who can't have kids to kill themselves, for instance. I have close friends who are childless and really want kids.
However, I can see the old people around me and I know for sure that their grown kids mean a lot in their lives in their old age.
Can you also see the many old people out there who either lost all their kids over the years or got abandoned by them, some od them worse off than others who never had kids to begin with? They are all in that very same community you all live in. undecided
FamilyRe: Will I Regret Not Having Children by Kobojunkie: 5:37pm On Mar 28, 2024
jelel6:
I think to have or not to have children should be a MAJOR decision. Unfortunately, we have been programmed to get a Job, marry, and have children. Me included. So what should have been a major decision to make ends up being trivial.
But there's nothing trivial about birthing, raising, and caring for children. Not every person in the world is going to be able to commit to, and then have the capabilities to shoulder such responsibilities.
Fact is, if Nigeria was a less judgemental society. A few more people would be contented with the happiness and pride they find in other sources besides children.
Indeed! undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Thread: The Denominations Are Not The Church by Kobojunkie: 5:29pm On Mar 28, 2024
Michael547:
■ So mixing with followers of christ means I don't know Jesus? Definitely Jesus disciples were not true followers then since they mixed with themselves.
You mean your religion-centric" following of Jesus? Sigh! Anyways... undecided
Christianity EtcRe: The Fellowship Of His Suffering – Philippians 3:10 by Kobojunkie: 4:50pm On Mar 28, 2024
truthfulsearch:
■ I understand your questions about sharing in the suffering of Jesus Christ. It's a complex topic with various interpretations. Some Christians believe it involves sacrificial living, empathy, and enduring hardships in alignment with Jesus' teachings. However, i think comprehension is quite important as we read articles about Christ. But, i understand your stance still. It's about spiritual commitment rather than an exact replication of Jesus' earthly circumstances.
Spiritual commitment? What are the details of this commitment so the layman can understand? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Thread: The Denominations Are Not The Church by Kobojunkie: 3:51pm On Mar 28, 2024
Michael547:
∆Na so so story full your mouth.
Common to identify a true follower of christ apart from yourself is difficult for you to do and a feat you might never accomplish throughout your lifetime if you continue to have this mentality.
Clearly, your obligation and priority is with your particular organization of men and not Jesus Christ at all, at all. 😁

Continue ooo! undecided
FamilyRe: Walked Into The Introduction Ceremony Of My 6yrs Relationship by Kobojunkie: 3:46pm On Mar 28, 2024
Irreplaceable01:
What about staying together. We were not cohabiting cause she's the religious type.
Consent was so you could live together after doing everything else without it? Ok! undecided
FamilyRe: Will I Regret Not Having Children by Kobojunkie: 2:08pm On Mar 28, 2024
LordIsaac:
John 3:16. You have been told!
🙄

While in the desert, God sent snakes to kill the Israelites for complaining. And then God told Moses to lift a bronze snake proclaiming that those of the people of Israel— no mention of the foreigners who lived among them in the entire tale— bitten by the snakes(condemned to die) who would choose to look up at the bronze statue would be saved from death(condemnation of death), a sentence inflicted on them by God Himself.
4 The Israelites left Mount Hor and traveled on the road that goes to the Red Sea. They did this to go around the country of Edom. But the people became impatient.
5 They began complaining against God and Moses. The people said, “Why did you bring us out of Egypt? We will die here in the desert! There is no bread and no water! And we hate this terrible food!”
6 So the Lord sent poisonous snakes among the people. The snakes bit the people, and many of the Israelites died.
7 The people came to Moses and said, “We know that we sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray to the Lord. Ask him to take away these snakes.” So Moses prayed for them.
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a bronze snake and put it on a pole. If anyone is bitten by a snake, that person should look at the bronze snake on the pole. Then that person will not die.”
9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it on a pole. Then when a snake bit anyone, that person looked at the bronze snake on the pole and lived. - Numbers 21 vs 4 - 9
Moses lifted the bronze snake, and those who looked at it lived. undecided

Jesus Christ told you in His Gospel that in much the same way that Moses lifted the snake in the desert for the people of Israel so also He too would be raised as a beacon for those among them — the people of Israel — who wished to live after they had been condemned to die by God of Israel - Deuteronomy 28.
14 “Moses lifted up the snake in the desert. It is the same with the Son of Man. He must be lifted too.
15 Then everyone who believes in him can have eternal life.”
16 Yes, God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life.
17 God sent his Son into the world. He did not send him to judge the world guilty but to save the world through him. - John 3 vs 14-16
God is responsible for condemning the Israelites to perish in the grave — lost. And He, God then also sent Jesus Christ to save the same people... Israel... after condemning them to die. Same as He did with the serpent back in the desert. undecided

So, in essence, The World that Jesus Christ was sent to is the same world that consists of those condemned of Israel aka the Lost sheep of Israel. Just as Jesus Christ made clear in Matthew 15 vs 21 - 28. undecided
FamilyRe: Hebrews 9:27 by Kobojunkie: 1:18pm On Mar 28, 2024
Blacklion3:
∆ E fit even bring am 4 more times if e like. Wetin consign me
So you know you lied? lipsrsealed
FamilyRe: Walked Into The Introduction Ceremony Of My 6yrs Relationship by Kobojunkie: 1:13pm On Mar 28, 2024
kkins25:
Given all he's said, the OP's story makes sense to me.
1) He had already approached the family for marriage. And they appeared to welcome him.
2) by his actions, he had made it known to her that they were to settle down. All that was left was for the girl to play her part, which she didn't. They dragged out the date to make the whole ordeal formal.
3) The girl is the one who denied the OP access to her parents, knowing that they disapproved of the inter-tribal marriage.
4) If the girl hadn't succumbed to pressure, she'd have kept the baby, which would have forced the parents' hands, just like my mom did in my situation.
5) She hid the fact that her parents weren't okay with the marriage, yet continued to be intimate with him while rekindling old flames with another lover.
6) I understand the lady and her action, but being pretentious to that extent trumps whatever dragging she had to endure from the OP.
7) Unfortunately for the old lover, he was the second choice....ehyaaa....
Without a doubt, the real dubious person here is no other than the girl. What we have here is a girl without the stomach-to-face stigma and a dubious individual who continued to lead the Op on knowing she wasn't going to marry him. She even made him build a baby-bed..
I think OP dodged a bullet because if things go south, she'll blame her woes on all of him. And the marriage would be a living hell
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I am not saying that his story does not make sense, and yes the gal acted dubiously. What I am saying is that given the details provided by OP, I can equally understand why she may have decided at some point to abandon OP entirely. I would not blame her folks at all cause this all seems like something she did for reasons best known to her. undecided
FamilyRe: Will I Regret Not Having Children by Kobojunkie:
LordIsaac:
∆ Therein lies the problem. You think it’s by power or might. Allow God to help you. For anything that is not of faith is sin. Accept Jesus today!
Accept Jesus Christ so what will happen abeg? undecided

For those who worship at the shrine of marriage and child bearing while operating under some delusion that the God of Israel and His Son, Jesus Christ, equally share in the same, kindly note the following statements made by Jesus Christ of those who will qualify as His followers. lipsrsealed

A. God's special blessing/permission is given only to those who would choose to live as Eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom of God.
10 The disciples said to him, “If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.”
11 But he said to them, “Not everyone can receive this saying, but only those to whom it is given.
12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.” - Matthew 19 vs 10 - 12
B. Women who choose to live as Eunuchs — Childless— for the sake of the Kingdom of God are the ones who have God's blessings; women who have children are told to cry for themselves and their children's sake.
27 A large crowd followed Jesus. Some of the women were sad and crying. They felt sorry for him.
28 But Jesus turned and said to the women, “Women of Jerusalem, don’t cry for me. Cry for yourselves and for your children too.
29 The time is coming when people will say, ‘The women who cannot have babies are the ones God has blessed. It’s really a blessing that they have no children to care for.’ [/size]
30 Then the people will say to the mountains, ‘Fall on us!’ They will say to the hills, ‘Cover us!’
31 If this can happen to someone who is good, what will happen to those who are guilty? ” - Luke 23 vs 27 - 31
C. Your marriages are of this world of men and not of the Kingdom of God
34 [size=12pt]Jesus said to the Sadducees, “On earth, people marry each other.
35 Some people will be worthy to be raised from death and live again after this life. In that life they will not marry.
36 In that life people are like angels and cannot die. They are children of God, because they have been raised from death. - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36
For those completely without eyes, Jesus Christ made it clear that His followers are in this world but are NOT of the world. lipsrsealed

Jesus Christ called for those who are single and even the barren, not for those who wish to have children. So keep God's mention off these things. undecided
FamilyRe: Walked Into The Introduction Ceremony Of My 6yrs Relationship by Kobojunkie: 12:54pm On Mar 28, 2024
kkins25:
∆ ah, I think I get your point. But, that can't happen especially if the girl in question is scared of the family. This is quite a difficult feat in our part of the world. The girl becomes isolated and is left almost at the mercy of her husband. So, if things go south, there's no one she can run to.
∆ Plus, there's the whole stigma against marrying without the blessings of the parents(like as if people can't get married if the parents are late).
Since the girl didn't inform him of the issue on ground, the OP is absolved of all faults.
I didn't get any sense of her being afraid of her family at all. And Op did insist that not only did she abort their baby but she went back to marry the guy she dated at least 6 years prior. That seems to me more like a gal who got tired of dragging, family drama and decided to take her bets elsewhere. We don't know since this is OP telling his side of the story. undecided

2. Stigma against marrying without consent but none against doing everything married people do anyways outside of marriage? Abegi! I don't take folks who believe such things seriously anyways. . grin

Also, sitting back for over 6 months saying you are waiting for consent to marry after dating for over 4 years without it? Una for go registry if say una really dey in love. Anyways, that is the way I see these things. undecided
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by Kobojunkie:
Plus1234:
I will continue to attack you online and spiritually until you stop twisting the Word Of God and confusing Christians.
You mean attack Jesus Christ since He is the one who said the tribulation He described would happen in the very same generation that His disciples lived in? undecided
29 “Right after the trouble of those days, this will happen:‘The sun will become dark, and the moon will not give light.The stars will fall from the sky, and everything in the sky will be changed.’[c]
30 “Then there will be something in the sky that shows the Son of Man is coming. All the people of the world will cry. Everyone will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds in the sky. He will come with power and great glory.
31 He will use a loud trumpet to send his angels all aroun
32 “The fig tree teaches us a lesson: When its branches become green and soft, and new leaves begin to grow, then you know that summer is very near.
33 In the same way, when you see ALL these things happening, you will know that the time[d] is very near, already present.
34 I assure you that ALL these things will happen while some of the people of this time are still living.
35 The whole world, earth and sky, will be destroyed, but my words will last forever. - Matthew 24 vs 32 - 35
Do you believe All of what Jesus Christ said of the events to take place during the end of time, in fact, took place about 1900 years ago as Jesus Christ assured they would or do you reject these claims made by Jesus Christ in His Gospel? undecided

You attack me because deep down you believe Jesus Christ was just a liar.. grin

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