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francisisking:
have you forgotten this verse "old things are passed away" ....

I understand what Paul meant in that verse, however what I don't understand is why you bring that up in the context of this here discussion. Can you better help me understand why you bring it up here?

cornelboy:
Satan was created for what? He was created to be the devil?

You continue to assume at at some point in his existence, Satan morphed from his original programming and my question to you remains where do you this idea or storyline from?

cornelboy:
1. You don't know about Satan's rebellion and how Michael and his angels defeated him and his angels right?

2. I should ask you, where you get your ideas from?
Did God create the smartphone your using?
Did got create the internet?
Did God create robots?

3. God initial purpose for earth was for peace to reign, eternal life etc.. but man fell, then sin and evil came to the world.

1. Where did you get this story of yours from is what I asked you.

2. Man invented those things and manufactured them, not from thin air, but using already created raw materials. A farmer does not claim He created the crops on His farm because you planted seeds.

So back to my question, where in scripture are you told that man created evil?

Also, you do understand that if man created evil then by implication that means God is not then the creator of ALL things?

And if God is not the creator of ALL things, then He is just one of many creators(man being one of them according to you) and so He cannot hold the title of God of ALL creations nor of God over ALL.

3. I didn't ask you what you assume God's initial purpose for the earth was, so please try to pay attention. God never said that is what His Law is meant for, this since there are also curses and punishments included within His Law to ensure those who transgress His Law are duly punished. Even the law given by God to Adam included punishment for transgression which we are all familiar since we are all of us born into the curse that resulted from Adam's transgression, revealing God's Law from the beginning included a check for evil.

dopeonlove:
..Yes , understood. The other part on my side i didn't add is work. We live in different cities and my work doesn't permit me to travel , thus, missing appointment of dates we fix and not able to see often. However we keep InTouch via calls and video calls also when ever this same work requires me to travel to Lagos , I never fail to see her before leaving . So in all We see atleast twice a month.

Try to read again what she is telling you of her impression from the little time you have both spent together then.

dopeonlove:
I'm tired.
■I don't see the love in u but I see that u want to just use Me.
■I see the selfishness in u.
■I see the anger in u.
■I see the unforgiveness in u.
■I see the harshness in u.
■I see the lies in u.
■I see the wickedness and pretence to look good in u only in front of my parents.
■I see the ungentlemanlyness in u
■I see the troubles and problems in u

So what's the point?
■I don't see an ideal spouse in u. I'm afraid. I see a boy and not a man. Marriage is not only about the man primarily having money. Other things are very important that a man must GROOM HIMSELF to have for a Marriage to last forever and you are lacking in them sadly.
I kept telling my mom this as well as I told my dad this once but they didn't listen as they are very mean and do tribalism mostly.

●I'm afraid that till now u are unable to fully convience Me as I kept fairly giving U time but u kept not changing for the better and allowed your work be your only priority.
● Even the dates you were insisting u always spoilt them by bringing your work problems. For how long will this selfishness and immaturity last?
●So u just want to have good time with Me but don't Love Me and clearly are not ready for Marriage. Go.Bye Bye.

She is still not into you at all, and she is wanting you to see that she is not convinced you are either. So she advices you both move on.

Munzy14:
I have forgotten one dude who has been to Ikwuano here...If I recall, I will mention him.

Please@ this plant has been a mystery to me since my childhood days, and I would love to finally know the real truth behind this delicious plant. It has been many decades since I last tasted it and I still remember it and know it from the elephant grass which I have also tasted.

BigBashiru:
The op should wait for her to be 16, take her to kano and be with her under Islamic law.

So your suggestion is he kidnap someone else's child to go Marry her under sharia law in Kano when she turns 16?

If someone were to do that to your sister or daughters would you be OK with that then?

cornelboy:
1. Satan was created by God as a good Angel but he chose to turn bad.

2. God didn't create evil, men did. That's why God regretted that he created man.

3. God's law are there to guide us against harming or doing evil to others.

1. Where did you get the story in bold from abeg?

2. Where in scripture are you told that man created evil?

Also, you do understand that if man created evil then by implication that means God is not then the creator of ALL things?

And if God is not the creator of ALL things, then He is just one of many creators(man being one of them according to you) and so He cannot hold the title of God of ALL creations nor of God over ALL.

3. God never said that is what His Law is meant for, this since there are also curses and punishments included within His Law to ensure those who transgress His Law are duly punished.

Munzy14:
It is elephant grass...But, there is a way those village mommies do harvest it like a pro.
They don't use knife sef, just bare hands..
The person I know, is my ex babe...She is no way a pro when it comes to these things..She doesn't like the native soup as well..
You have to travel to Abia state, If you truely want it or making a research on it...Just enter Umuahia, you will get it clean clear.

Ok! Here's what I know. It is that the Achara stems pictured do not come from the pictured Elephant grass. I have investigated this - tasted it too- and know this for sure. I know what this grass tastes of and it is nothing like achara.

And in order to find out the name of the original plant, I at least need a picture of it so I can it to the botanical center here where that name can be easily retrieved please.

Do you know of any persons here on nairaland who currently resides in Umuahia. I am certain there are some. I haven't seen Chatinent in a bit and he happens to be one of those who I know claims to be out that way. Any other referral would be appreciated.

cornelboy:
How about you make your brain intact first?
God of the bible didn't create evil. Men did.

God is the creator of All things..... good and evil alike. Even Satan was created by God. Man is not a creator.

dopeonlove:
My own side of the story now ,
I've gone to see her parents and declared my interest as well as taken her to my hometown , to see my parents , with the permission of her parents.

Yet, she sent me the above message. Which other proposal is greater than meeting her parents and introducing her to mine.

IF YOU WERE THE ONE SHE SENT THAT MESSAGE TO , WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND ENGAGE HER?
Your advice and comments are needed pls!

But a relationship is more than a proposal. Can't you see what she is telling you?

What she's saying is that she is not convinced that you are the man for her and that conviction should usually come long before the proposal you seem stuck on....

Johnsown1:
He suggested that the house gal should go, so that he may not do what he will regret in the future (lack of self-discipline) and it happens mostly when the wife turned deaf and dumb to his body language but the wife insisted that the girl will stay. So what is your point on this

Read the OP'S story and please stop injecting your own into this.

He didn't tell his wife that his libido is struggling with the gal in the house.... and understandably that would light up red flags for his wife as far as his ability to keep it down even where his own daughters are concerned.

You claim the lack of self-discipline only happens when the wife is too tired for sex. Let me ask you this then. If OP had been a woman and had come on here to tell you that the focus of her lust shifts from her husband to the boy next door or even her driver when she does not get any sex from her husband, will you also be this kind in giving her this same advise then?

Johnsown1:
He suggested that the house gal should go, so that he may not do what he will regret in the future (lack of self-discipline) and it happens mostly when the wife turned deaf and dumb to his body language but the wife insisted that the girl will stay. So what is your point on this

What body language again?

Read the OP again so you stop injecting your personal delusions into this for Pete's sake. The Op's wife probably thinks and believes all is well in her home , this since OP didn't state that he told his wife the real reason why he wants the gal gone. Also, Op didn't submit that he found a replacement for the gal for his wife. So isn't it a tad convenient for you to now blame his wife and assume she is busy ignoring some assumed body language?

Johnsown1:
. So what did you suggest he should do or actions necessary to be taken to stop the current danger of the house girl and for the future encounter

The man lacks self-discipline as he obviously sees the gal , not as a human deserving of respect as he himself does, but instead a sex object. In adults that is recorded as a disorder of a mental kind and so seeking immediate treatment is what I recommend.

What sane woman do you know that will hear her husband likes small girls, and will not run away with her daughters for fear that he might end up raping them or something?

You ask him to reveal this lack of discipline to his wife without even thinking what the true consequence of such a reveal would be. Are you sure you should be advising anyone in these or other things?

Johnsown1:
Read my first reply there you will see my advice to the OP.

Oh, I remember your advice which was that he put the noose on his wife instead. And do you recall my response to you then too?.

This man is telling you here that instead of listing after his own wife, he is instead lusting after a girl, and you think blaming his wife makes sense?

Johnsown1:
So what's your take on it

I have more than made my self clear by pointing the many potential dangers of his current situation. A man who has little to no self-discipline of this kind risks not only his marriage but also screwing up the life of his victims - the gal, his daughters and even his wife- if he does not do something about those wicked thoughts he keeps harboring there.

Johnsown1:
Lol, please what the OP needs is our advice

Advice ke? All you have been doing is cooking up reasons why OP shouldn't be help accountable for just about everything. So how can you properly advice him when you don't even see the potential dangers of his current situation for Pete's sake?

Munzy14:
O wunu elephant grass before kobo akpofe m by Waec questions.

No particular English attached to it.

It's not. Do you know of anyone in the East who can maybe get us pictures of the plant so I can investigate using that instead. Elephant grass is also common here and it isn't Achara or people here would have achara soup regularly on their tables.

Even back when I was young, though elephant grass was everywhere to be found growing up in Ikorodu, nor once did I ever see anyone harvesting it to go eat at home.

Munzy14:
It is still the matured elephant grass...you harvest inner part of the shoot which is very soft and tender for consumption.

Google elephant grass.

The reason I doubt this growing up in Ikorodu myself, I cut down lots of elephant grass and none of the shoots we fed to our goats and rabbits looked anything like the achara I saw in the market. I did try tasting the shoot on more than one occasion and it tasted nothing like achara, nor was it as hairy as the achara shoots you find in the Market. So I have since then always been curious to learn exactly what plant Achara was taken from.

That is why I am very much interested in being connected to any of those who maybe have a picture to an actual plant so I can maybe pass it on to have the name verified.

Elephant grass plenty for here too. And no, the shoot of what is here no resemble achara either.

Johnkey2000:
Should I continue bleeping her for the Kpekus sake, or should I just forget her. Though I have told her we are just together for sex she said she said no problem. Girl wey I Don dey with for close to 4 years

Since you admit to being just a lay for her as well, what exactly are you here asking for ?

Siofro:
These series of pictures from zikoko will tell you why

ROFLMAO


But why then do these same women continue to fall victim to Nigerian men with low self issues?.

Mariangeles:
Maybe Munzy14 can help you.

Ok,thanks!

Munzy14, can you help with information or maybe referrals? I read it is common to those in Umuahia. I also read in several places that it is taken from what is taken from "mature" shoots of what is referred to as edible elephant grass which I am certain is not the typical elephant grass I grew up knowing off out in Ikorodu, and here I now live.

So if you can please help locate pictures of the actual plant the shoots -achara shoots - are harvested from, that would be very much appreciated.

aboyaji:

You're very funny, yet correct.
The gullibility in African blood system is very potent.
The other self acclaimed pastor friend I had fleeced another friend of ours.
From borrowing money from him and refusing to pay back and having the guy's business run down to providing him a means to waste.
I don't have business with pastors.

Those who you refer to as pastors and mogs are instead the false teachers and false prophets Jesus Christ warned His followers to steer clear of. He warned they could come to steal, kill and destroy, using his name.

God never sent any pastors or mogs to shephered anyone to begin with. But ignorance is what has rendered many gullible victims of the frauds.

Mariangeles:
Kobo, to be honest, I’m not too familiar with it.
We no dey chop am for our side.

Na for Lagos I see am chop. I figured somewhere in the Eastern parts of the country it is primarily cultivated. Do you know any nairalander living in the far eastern parts who could know?

lereinter:
I don't understand your number 1 point. Crime and sin

Sin is direct disobedience of God's commandments and statutes as detailed in God's own Law, whereas crime is violation of the laws/criminal codes of the land or Nation.

They are not one and the same and shouldn't be treated the same.

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Now in the Old Covenant Law, the constitution given by God to the Nation of Israel, the punishment for the sin of murder was Death by stoning. There the Law served not only as God's Law but also as the law/criminal code in the Nationof Israel. However, the same is not the case with the New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ, in the Kingdom of God.

aboyaji:
I started analysing him immediately.

1. Do I think his wife looks at him as a man of God or a husband who goes to his work place and comes back with money?

2. Whenever he wakes up from sleep, where do I think his wife thinks he goes to as a husband who fends for his family? Church or work place?

3. How does the wife react when he comes back with the car? (My husband bought me a car from the proceeds of other peoples ignorance / gullibility or from what)

4. Do I think his wife sees him more that a husband?

5. Does his wife sees him like a true man of God who can shake the mountain and truly command things to be?

6. Olee otu nwunye ya si ahuta ndi na-eso azu di ya n'ulo uka?

I am a Christian. I am not persecuting anybody or anything. I am asking a question. I am a human. I must learn.

It's not by telling us "Bless you, bless you that makes one a true follower of Christ".

1. Depends on the level of indoctrination fueling her existence at this point. Some of them believe they are guaranteed entry into Heaven simply by being married to a pastor or mog.

Some even believe children they have with their pastor/mog husband's are born holy and guaranteed a place in heaven.... the delusion is strong with a lot of them.

2. Probably the "house of God".

3. More likely that God has done it again for them. See they are quite aware that their husbands fleece God's sheep to provide for them, but probably like Hitler's wife before them, it is all good as long as it helps them realize their dreams..

4. Likely a god of sorts depending on how strong the delusion is with her.

5. Again, this depends on how strong the delusion is with her..

6. Probably believes they are helpers for her husband. Who knows how strong the delusion runs for her.

lereinter:
The girl may be bigger than her age

Bigger than her age in what sense? Has there ever been a standard size as far as kids are concerned?

As adults, are we all the same size, age wise? So why would anyone expect all kids to be any different?

The sort of idiocy una dey subscribe to get all sorts of foolishness weaved in.

mickey05:
Sex with any girl below the age of 18 attracts life imprisonment in Lagos State - KILL THAT URGE

That is amazing!

Beremx:
The law in Nigeria concerning divorce does not Favor women. The wealthy men would always have their way because they are wealthy. Didn’t you notice the examples you gave, the men are all polygamist?

But in the very same Nigeria, wealthy women also get divorced and they don't walk away loosing their wealth. So is the law the problem or ignorance and ofcourse not hiring good lawyers that is the issue.

BluntCrazeMan:
You can now see why there are serious frictions in some homes..

The woman of the house would be doing everything, both the things the man is supposed to do very easily.
And when she leaves some things undone (which definitely the man had not been doing, and thus he too left them undone), the woman would see it as a foul, as a big error on the man - that since she helped him out in doing some the things that he was supposed to do, that it was naturally expected of him too to help her out in doing some of her own things too.
But she forgot that: “That’s not how the men see such things”.

I don't follow at all. I was lost as far as whatever point you were trying to make in the first portion of your OP.

So, cann you maybe use an example here to help us more clearly understand what you are really getting at here?.

Mariangeles, abeg, you no know anyone for village or wey live around farms or areas where achara is harvested? I really am interested in figuring out this plant. What is needed is a picture of the actual plant and I can find the name..

FERNANDEZISBACK:
What's that..
This emoji you using ( )?
Thanks for the head up but you sound irritated telling me something I don't know..

That emoji is instead the thinker emoji.

phemmyfour:
O ya rest....you won

Again.. It is my job to continue speaking God's Truth regardless of the many encounters you claim, sorry!