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Brighton1:
Anyway, i'm tired, I can't take this anymore. Afterall there are many brothers in the lord that would accept her mode of dressing.

Well, release her so she can find herself someone who loves her as she is, while you go off and find yourself someone who dresses as you want instead.

Joeaugust:
Kobojunkiee you are right. What pisses me off the most is that christians rarely notices this. And the ones who notices either pretends not to see this or just play it down all in the name of peace and unity when really believers should be tackling and not tolerating this false doctrines and traditions

Telling them to tackle false doctrines and traditions amounts to telling them to completely do away their church business structure which is their form of livelihood and way of dominating their followers. They can't and won't do that the same way the Pharisees before them couldn't.

Brighton1:
Its not as if she lacking anything. By God's grace I'm doing well for himself and she's also from a well to do family. But yet dresses like a slave.
I'm a responsible dude and I always get her decent gift including clothes. I respect her decision so much but atleast let her change her mode of dressing for my sake.
Don't you see how mercy chinwo, Sinach and other ministers of God dress. They don't dress like old women because they're singing for God.

All this does not matter. If you cannot accept her as she is... you need to break up with her and find yourself instead a mate who you will have no complaints for. So, the problem isn't her but you.

Onyiiobi7735:
The Book of Revelations is a terrifying one, and unique in that it describes future events yet to occur.Most of our pastors don't like teaching on it, and I don't know why.

The book is not meant to be considered a chronological record of events to come and no, they are all not records of future events. Those who espouse such ideas lie to you.

Stop letting these pastors and mogs deceive you by pretending they know the interpretation of John's dream/visions cause they do not all understand it, even though they pretend to.

SergeantTitus:
I mean winners church aka living faith . Their branches I've been to so far cover a white handkerchief then pass it around to their members to place on their forehead. What is that for?

ROFLMAO

Joeaugust:
In case u havent noticed these differences.....Wat do u tink?

The simple answer to your question is that your churches are built on the doctrines and traditions of men, lies which Jesus Christ warned over 2000 years were all an abomination against God that drew men away from God's Truth, rendering their worship of God meaningless - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13

NoToPile:
If anybody decides to tie scarf 24 hours a day, that's their own personal issue not necessarily a church doctrine, there's nothing even wring with it. There are women who don't open their hair outside they are not Muslims neither are they deeper life members. And if you decide not to cover your hair when praying or going to church that's your won palava.
Sensational heading as usual.

When a church's doctrinal image of a woman who is modestly dressed indicates her wearing a head cover, and she is expected to dress modestly every time, what do you think that means?

The ushers are simply enforcing what has always been church doctrine. Make we stop to dey produce these lies abeg!

Brighton1:
This is not the first or second time she's dressing like that to follow me out despite all my complains. There are nice clothes I bought for but she won't wear. I'm tired.

If you cannot accept her as she is, then she is not the one for you. It is and ought to be that simple!

safesurfer:
Kumuyi never said watching TV is a sin.

Yes he did. He called it the devils box back in the 80s. I remember when the doctrine against TVs came down and all parents began scrambling to lock up their TVs, some going as far as to get rid of them.

safesurfer:
"do not watch television" - he never said that at any time but it's a long story. One that either exposes the ignorance or malice of his haters at that time (the 1980's)

For instance, have you ever wondered why something like "television has done more harm than good to Nigerian srudents" debates always feature in secondary schools and even SSCE questions in the past (pre 2003) but rarely ever does these days?

Modified: and even as a deeper life member, I don't believe that wearing trouser, as a woman, is a sin. BUT church rules are church rules.

Stop lying... He considered TV the devil's box, and urged women to pretty much cover up from head to toe as sign of honor to their husbands and all the other nonsense he taught... Stop lying!

My own mother came home one time to try to push her pastor's TV is evil nonsense... thank God my father was not having that bullsheet at the time. As for the strict dress-code. We all bailed as soon as that started.. found ourselves another church social club to hang out on sundays at.

Your church rules are antiChrist rules same as those proclaimed by the Pharisees in place of the Truth of God. They are an abomination that drive you all away from actually following the Truth of God in all things - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 7 vs 1 - 13

luluosas:
Who asked them to cover their hair 24 hours of the day? Enter church covered and while leaving the church, remove the covering, that's all

Really? When the women are given rules to dress "modestly" all of the times and their idea of modesty includes covering of hair, are you seriously saying you don't see how they were instructed by their pastors to do this 24 hours of the day?

Deeper-life women are known for having alopecia, and receding hairlines as a result of all that 24/7 covering.

safesurfer:
Read the post again and modify your comment.
He was referring to women just coming to church for the first time, and without head covering.
And he never said women should cover their heads for 20 hours a day. Never ever since the inception did he ever say that.

Stop lying! If the rule is that women dress modestly all of the time and that covering of head is a part of their modesty doctrine, doesn't that essentially mean they are to cover their hair all day long?

FuckSilly:
Kumuyi is not a true Christian.

Covering of the head is in Christian doctrine.

I agree that Kumuyi is not a true follower of Jesus Christ, and neither are you since you pretend that that which was given as part of the Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan has to do with Jesus Christ.

Shutupthere:
Yes the body of man was made ... if you would like to interpret the body as man literally . You are right to some extent but if the Spirit gives you understanding you will understand my earlier points. Are you saying a corpse can be referred to as man ? If that is the case then you are right in your own reasoning... But what makes man human is the soul and the spirit

Again, pay attention to what is written. Open your eyes. Man is more than his body. You are told that man(mind, body and soul) was created from the clay of this world- Genesis 2 vs 6 - 7. That is what is written as opposed to what you keep insisting on instead.

RenaissanceGuy:
We're almost saying the same thing. There are a lot of church doctrines espoused by Deeper Life or some other church that had very faulty foundations due to poor interpretation of a particular Bible passage.

BTW, are you a lady or a man?

Much the same way you can't expect a Pharisee with his numerous interpretations to suddenly figure out Truth, the same way you should never expect these false teachers and false prophets to suddenly change from spewing what are lies.

reservd:
Na wa o, you have been the leader of this church from inception if I'm not mistaken, are you just noticing the persistent hair covering after all these decades? Who established the law in your church in the first place? I'm not understanding this comments at all

He is the one who introduced that tradition to his members to begin with. Back around 1984, it hadn't become a staple at my local church in Oriwu, Ikorodu. But not long afterwards, the rules started to come down big time from Kumuyi and church became a cult.

safesurfer:
The people he's talking to understands exactly what he's saying.

But you outsiders will always want to shook mouth for wetin nor concern una.

Get away....

datola:
He's very right but hmmm...

How is he right for blaming ushers for pushing ideas he himself started?

RenaissanceGuy:
Change is the only constant thing in life, they say. It's only God's Word that will never change ; our perception and interpretation of it may do.

God's Truth has not changed in 2000 years. If your perceptions and interpretation change it means they were never founded on God's Truth to begin with.

Shutupthere:
It was only after the breath of God entered into man that he became a living soul. Read Gen 2:7 critically and I pray the Holy Spirit gives you understanding.

Your claim contradicts scripture which instead claims man was made whole before the breath of God was installed in him - Genesis 2 vs 6 - 7. So did God and Jesus Christ lie to you?

ERockson:
So some churches that never believed deeper Life doctrine were somehow right then. It's not too late but pastor kumuyi had made his members phrisee long enough that his members will be praying for his unbelief

Tell that to the 10s of thousandth of his members who are dead and gone with no chance to correct themselves in this.

Shutupthere:
Dust relates to only the body. Not the Soul (mind) or the spirit of the man (life force)

That assertion of yours makes no sense considering you are told in scripture that God formed man from the clay of this earth- Genesis 2 vs 6-7. Jesus Christ also confirmed me this in John 3 vs 5 - 8 when He said that the only birth man has known of from his mother's womb is a physical one. So are they both liars? .

Idamond:
True but those who dead without hearing the gospel where is there destination?
Hope u would remember Ibrahim bosom? Before the coming of Christ..

According to the parable that Jesus Christ told, Abraham's bosom applies only to those who are of the Old Law of Moses - the descendants of Jacob and not to any other people.

So it remains that the non- Israelites who die outside of Jesus Christ are judged according to God's judgement which condemns all unbelievers to perish in their graves - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22

EvangelistChuks:
There is what is called the law of conscience and conscience remember is the moral regulator in every man. So they were judged by this law.
[They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right Rom.2:13-15].

So now you make up your own laws in place of God's own Laws?

shinealight:
Well, if that’s your assessment of your Bible then there’s no point in discussing about even “higher things” because you will only attempt to grapple with them with your intellect which for me is a waste of time. Au revoir!

LOL.... "higher things"..

shinealight:
1. Are you saying the Holy Bible is not a spiritual book?

1. No wonder you’re reading and quoting like it’s a Chemistry textbook!

1. It was men that fed you the tale that the a book written by men in the language of men, translated and managed by men is a holy book right?

2. None of the writers of the books contained in your Bible ever claimed your Bible a holy book so why not process the facts?

shinealight:
Relax my friend and get hold of yourself!
A book on gardening is a product of the writer’s brain whereby he employed his intellect to produce something which can also be grasped with the intellect by other readers!
The Book you’re talking about is a spiritual book containing Revealed Knowledge which deals with prescriptions that can ultimately lead to the spiritual ascent of the individual. It therefore must be grasped spiritually with the Intuition. The difference between the two types of books is massive and should therefore never be mixed up!!

Who fed you this cock'n'bull tale that the book is some sort of "spiritual" book?

Where did you come off with this claim that the book contains prescriptions that can ultimately lead to what you claim is spiritual ascent of an individual.... ascent to what?

shinealight:
Lolzzzzz!
Not joking at all.
The Book you claim contains facts is a “Book with Seven Seals” ….it’s not meant to be read like you’re preparing for exam….employ your Intuitive faculty, my friend.
When people pass over, how do you think they perceive things when their brain is already buried 6ft below ground?
The Intuitive faculty is the faculty of the Soul which resides within you even while you’re alive and walking the Earth! We’re supposed to practise utilising it even while still alive to be conversant with its usage. Otherwise the Soul of that individual is said to be asleep!

You are still not making any sense to me. If I gave you a book on a topic like gardening, would you resort to spewing this type of gibberish at me?

Why do you folks think that because it is a book about God, that automagically, it is ok to try to insert all forms of gibberish rather than stick to just that actually stated in the book?

dattaswami1:
Jesus showed several miracles to give proof for the existence of unimaginable God appearing as Father of heaven in the first energetic medium. But, these miracles raised ego and jealousy in the hearts of priests, who were honoured by public in par with God. Politics is universal and does not leave even the spiritual field.

The priests did not realise that Jesus was helping their spiritual line only because the basis for any spiritual path is the acceptance of existence of unimaginable God mediated in energetic or human medium. In fact, Jesus was God in human medium and He indicated this point also by saying that He is the light and the true path to God. As the preaching of spiritual knowledge of Jesus rose to climax, the ego based jealousy of priests also rose to climax and the result was crucifixion of Jesus to leave the body at 32 years of age.

Had He continued His life fully, so many concepts might have been clarified with far better explanations. Prophet Mohammad analysed all this and found that the concept of contemporary human incarnation performing miracles for confirmation is the root cause of such an unimaginable sin like crucifixion. Hence, He tried to eliminate both these concepts of incarnation and miracles because He felt that no human being can conquer ego and jealousy towards a co-human form.

Go to the following website and read the divine knowledge from there,

-By Shri Datta Swami
www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace

Your swami seems desperate in his attempt to resolve two opposing views. He needs to take a course in Logic where he is sure to learn the simple things.

TRUE + FALSE = FALSE

The result of the above can never amount to TRUE.

Mindlog:
Has lots to gain from which divorce? They better not be on post study work visa!

From the video, there is an indication the man is not earning because the wife said when she was rushed to the hospital, while admitted she called her husband to bring her food that she is hungry, the husband replied that she should send money for the food and she reminded him she gave him £30 the previous and he said it was money she "dashed" him. She said she returned back home hungry.

If the husband is jobless, I see no reason for that because there are factories and warehouses that would pay him about £11 per hour and above, so I don't know where the talk of spousal support is coming from or has UK government declared him too sick to work?

I believe both of them have videos of what has been happening inside their home apart from the one we saw.

ROFLMAO

shinealight:
1. The Inner warmth you need in these matters has nothing to do with “emotion” which is actually connected to your intellect derived from your perishable brain. It has more to do with your “Intuition” which is your God-given faculty needed to assess spiritual things…..that’s the first lesson people like you need to learn. It is not about reading a Book which you claim contains facts…..you still need to use your Intuition to de-cipher those things you call facts. That’s your biggest hurdle!

2. For instance, the book tells you that the Creator, during Creation worked for six days and rested on the seventh day…..how far can you get with that information without employing your Intuition? Not very far unless you wish to continue deceiving yourself!!

1. Intui-what now?

2. You are joking with this, right?

Is it just me or does this read like absolute gibberish it really is...... i mean this swami guy's desperate, inane attempt here?