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Samunique:
1. Complete gibberish and trash !!! Imagine Jesus asking his disciples that one of them should impersonate him and take his place on the cross, and these same disciples still went to preach Jesus crucifixion and resurrection and, still paid supreme price, I mean died horrible death for what they believed. Is that not foolishness ? To die horrible death for what you know it's a lie ? Who does that

2. I think Islam and Muslims are confused, and this happened in order to make Islam real. Should dey accept the crucifixion of Christ, there won't be anything Islam today. And should they deny crucifixion took place, then Islam will find itself fighting against history. So just like liars and hypocrites always sit on the fence when they realize they can't silent the truth, Muhammed decided to go with same tactics. Islam is fake and lies !!!!

1. Na wa oo!

2. I am even more astounded by this OP's Swami thinking it possible to resolve two obviously conflicting and contradictory ideas by claiming something about the incarnation of bodies etcetera. I almost felt the walls of my mind straining as if in an attempt to collapse in on itself while trying to process what he wrote there.

Ken4Christ:
1. If you were in an event and you were asked to narrate what happened, won't you do it in the order things happened. Or if you asked to write the story of your life, will you start from the middle and then the end and come back to the beginning?

2. If the narration was not in chronological order, why didn't Jesus show John the new heaven and earth first before he shows him the tribulation period. Our Lord Jesus is the embodiment of wisdom and knowledge. And he will not reveal an event to confuse us. He wants us to read and understand it.

3. So, the book of Revelation is in chronological order except for chapter 12 which in itself is not part of the physical events but happenings in the realm of the spirit. I have studied this book for over 30 years. I am not a novice. Kenneth Hagin of blessed memory is my mentor. I am very careful with the word of God. I don't come up with teachings that has no backing in the word of God. I am compelled to begin to write a book on this subject. Maybe, it will be better understood when the book is ready. The teachings of eschatology by our church fathers is not correct.
Between the rapture of the church and the creation of the new heaven and earth are about 30 distinct events.

1. There are different ways to tell a story. Chronological accounts of events aren't the only kind of accounts there are.

2. Who told you he didn't do that?

3. I disagree! Fortunately, when it comes to God and the things, it matters not how long you claim to have been studying or how many titles you claim to have as a result - case and point the Pharisees! What instead matters is whether you are yourself living your life in continuous submission to and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's Law, and Truth in the Kingdom of God because Jesus Christ made it clear that it is only to those who are His followers that these revelations are revealed to.

dattaswami1:
My answer to the dear devoted holy Christian soul is as follows:

Does Jesus represent a human body, the word or both? If it represents a particular human body, then such a human body does not exist now. Only a particular human generation and that too, in a particular place was favored by the association of the human body of Jesus. Is it not the partiality of God?

If Jesus represents the word (Message of the Christ), then the previous human generations before the birth of Jesus were not favored with this word and this also leads to the partiality of God. If Jesus represents both the body and the word, then both the above objections will attack together, strengthening the partiality of God.

You no dey read?

You are told by at least 2 witnesses that Jesus Christ died, rose in 3 days after His death and then ascended into Heaven with the same body He had here on earth.

You are also told in the very same scripture, that man rejected Jesus Christ in the beginning. and His return over 2000 years ago is God offering man yet the same chance that was offered to man in the beginning, again, not as an imposition but an offer of redemption to mankind.

When you don't understand even the basics of what is clearly written in scripture, all your efforts to argue anything regarding it will always appear meaningless.

concho:
I might not type well because I lack coordination right now .
My girlfriend of 4 years came back from a one week church program to tell me that the Man of God said I’m not the right person for her . I am already making marriage plans before she brought this up . I would actually just walk away on a norm, but she is actually the best thing that has happen to me over the years . Don’t even know how to start going about this , I am very confused. Someone should help me please

So what did your galfriend decide? Did she decide to go with her mog in this then? If yes, prepare yourself and know that you are not losing anything if she walks away as a result of this. I think it is a lot worse to end up with a mog's puppet/sheep for a partner.

Blue86:
1. So, the Lalasticla's dream is not of God? You seem to speak as if you are of great understanding, but don't know that living ready is living right before Jesus, for it those He is coming for? And you think you are doing God's work by all you are doing? And God is a fool that told Adam and Eve to be fruitful, multiply on the earth? And a fool to say, marriage is honourable, and the bed undefiled? And a fool to use the union of a man and a woman in marriage as analogy for Christ Jesus and the body?Lol.

2. Please, don't confuse the faith of Christ Jesus. You don't know. Sit down and learn. Anyways, I know your pride will keep making you talk, showing how ignorant you are in the knowledge of God. But know as well, many are seeing your comments, and the more you talk, the more you show how ignorant you are.

3. God created marriage, and as well he made some eunuch, and as well others made themselves eunuch, and men also made some eunuchs. And the greater percentage falls in marriage, or else, I don't think you will be here typing, or going to reply this post again ( to show big ignorance).

4. That is common sense.

1. Wrong! I know I know enough to tell your lies from the Truth as declared by God Himself is it and clearly written in scripture for all those who have ears to hear and eyes to see. It is that simple really!

2. Again, Faith in Jesus Christ refers to the living of one's life in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings of Jesus Christ, God's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of God. And according to Jesus Christ, only those who live that life in Faith as defined by Him will come to know the Truth of God and be set free from slavery to sin(and its lies) by the Truth of God, Jesus Christ. So, if you are against that which is of Jesus Christ - if it is ignorance to you, then that is your issue to deal with, not mind.

3. Again, the same God who created marriage also created some Eunuchs from birth, made some Eunuchs in this life, and allowed His own servants to live as Eunuchs for the sake of His Kingdom. Clearly, marriage was never God's main agenda for all human beings as He instead left it as a choice in this world, for those who would fancy it. That the greater percentage, of even those created Eunuchs from birth, fall under the pressure of society to marry, does not change the Truth of God in any way of form. The decisions of men do not impact or change God's decree or Word.

4. Commonsense is not claimed by mouth.

MaryAye:
I'm considering giving him a chance because he's cool but his singular act of insulting and shouting at my son when he comes to my shop seem to disturb me.
Please, do you think his behaviour is a red flag or not?

Are your intentions then to throw away your son in order that you can have this man or something?

It is not his behavior that concerns me but yours. Why do you entertain someone who blatantly insults your own son?

DonCrack:
Martins Currency said "It's wrong posting those women here i don't just know what you are turning into. Is it wrong for them to have a relax time at your place, if eventually their husband or people of same Organization saw this, do you know the damages that will caused thereafter. Don't be doing something like one who doesn't reason,"

A facebook user, Uba Shima said "Nobody stop them to drink but at least they should have respect the uniform they are putting on,"
"That uniform is meant for church activities not beer parlour activities," he added.
Another Facebook user said: "Even those who forbids it still take it, just drink responsibly. Take one or two is okay."

Na wa for the way Nigerians dey think. So uniform dey wey you no fit wear drink your beer in peace again? And women can't simply sit again... na the way their husbands go construe am be the main issue?

Interesting claims... So we are to throw Isaiah's prophesies about the time of the reign of the King of peace out the window then, shall we?

1. A small tree[a] will begin to grow from the stump of Jesse. That branch will grow from Jesse’s roots.
2 The Lord’s Spirit will always be with that new king to give him wisdom, understanding, guidance, and power. The Spirit will help him know and respect the Lord.
3 He will find joy in obeying the Lord. This king will not judge people by the way things look. He will not judge by listening to rumors.
4-5 He will judge the poor fairly and honestly. He will be fair when he decides what to do for the poor of the land. If he decides people should be beaten, he will give the command, and they will be beaten. If he decides people must die, he will give the command, and those evil people will be killed. Goodness and fairness will be like a belt he wears around his waist.
6 Then wolves will live at peace with lambs, and leopards will lie down in peace with young goats. Calves, lions, and bulls will all live together in peace. A little child will lead them.
7 Bears and cattle will eat together in peace, and all their young will lie down together and will not hurt each other. Lions will eat hay like cattle.
8 Even snakes will not hurt people. Babies will be able to play near a cobra’s[c] hole and put their hands into the nest of a poisonous snake.
9 People will stop hurting each other. People on my holy mountain will not want to destroy things because they will know the Lord. The world will be full of knowledge about him, like the sea is full of water.
10 At that time there will be someone special from Jesse’s family. He will be like a flag that all the nations gather around. The nations will come to him and ask him what they should do. And the place where he is will be filled with glory. - Isaiah 11 vs 1 - 10

Angbakpa:
You're gullible.

Gullible for processing what is written as is written, really?

zionstaar75:
there's no need to answer u

Well, all I stated there is the Truth of God according to Jesus Christ. So if you have a problem with that, I am not it.

Gospel2Day:
If only you can see me laughing at your ridiculous ignorance of Scriptures.
You know nothing, and instead of you to keep quiet you are announcing your pitiable ignorance to the world.

Jesus Christ warned you, over 2000 years ago, that you will fall in the same pit that your blind teachers will - Matthew 15 vs 14 - and today, those who know Him clearly understand and see how what He said is God's Truth. The one you follow, the master you bow you, is the one to determine where you end up in eternity.

rufus4g:
Why Is It Unforgivable To Sin Against The Holy Spirit and what is this unforgivable sin?

Because Jesus Christ said it is. There isn't any given reason as it seems an axiom in the Kingdom of God.

Angbakpa:
Chai....bro you're wrong oo
That's not the right interpretation of that scripture. It's saying that in that other world, no need for marriage coz if you're considered qualified and eventually entered into that world, you won't need go get married or be given out in marriage. You'll be like angels.

Know this and know peace ko. That's the true interpretation .

You claim to be born-again, right - John 3 vs 1 - 8? Well, as Jesus Christ told you, over 2000 years ago, the moment you became born-again, you entered into the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not of this world and He Jesus Christ commands you to then live your life in submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments, God's Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God - John 14 vs 20 - 25. So, when the same Jesus Christ then told you in Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 that your marriage, as one who is a citizen of the Kingdom of God by virtue of being born-again, is of this world the not of the Kingdom of God, He clearly means that the rules of the Kingdom of God do not cover you in your marriage...or do you still not see how Jesus Christ was only repeating that which God decreed in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 19 still stands?

Kayceenaz:
Exactly. Your purpose is your immunity, bulletproof against any romantic disappointment. You will always be in control.

I wouldn't go as far as to say it gives one control. Instead, I would say it helps one gain a better and different perspective as far as processing such hurtful emotions. You are able to be more accepting of the one who hurt you and the action taken against you in such a way that you also feel it was an OK response of sorts, even though it stung.

cherishmichael:
Please if you can't understand English don't tag me ever!!
Read well before you blah blah blah!

Look at this one!

Gospel2Day:
1. See who is calling givers of tithes and offerings "gullible".

2. Among those you refer to as gullible are university professors, PhD holders, Masters degree holders and graduates
You don't know what you're talking about.
I can only pity your lost soul.
I won't dignify your arrogant ignorance with my response again.

1. Yes, the are gullible and foolish because Jesus Christ made clear in Matthew 17 that Children of the King do not pay tithes/tax, meaning those of you who pretend you pay tithes in Jesus Christ are not Children of the King aka Sons of God by your actions.

2. You also didn't know that all those titles are meaningless in the Kingdom of God, did you? Jesus Christ said in John 6 vs 25 - 35 that those who belong to Him no longer work for food that perishes but instead they work for food that endures to eternity which only He can give to them. All those titles you list are titles, not or God. They mean nothing where it concerns the knowledge and wisdom of God. Hence the reason why even those who were such titles can be as ignorant as the next man who has never even encountered God's Truth.

Gospel2Day:
You don't deserve a response.
And I won't dignify your ignorance with one.

The real reason is even after so many years of living under this man you remain even more ignorant of God's Truth than when you first started. All you can regurgitate are the lies he has fed you and anything different leaves you overwhelmed and unable to process.

reservd:
Yet no change in members all these while? How do you expect me to believe such, he handed down a policy which was followed, if he had denounced it, why is the former law still thoroughly adhered to by the same people he preaches to? Are you implying majority of his members refused to adjust to what their GO has condemned, it's well

I even heard that in Nigeria still, the women can't use weaves or hair extensions in their hair whereas woman abroad are allowed to do so. I don't know how true this is still.

headbasher96:
when e hard me and i feel i cant keep it in i start drinking for like a week i will be drinking everyday until something else comes around to distract me if u can learn how to programme your activities u will have zero worries

Even to point of using alcohol sef!

I think you should consider instead what the OP said about finding your purpose. From personal experience, such helps you better accept life and its dramas as they come.

headbasher96:
the only thing that breaks my heart is when a family member is sick most specially my mum if not naija can cook ones heart to think like lucifer himself

So every Nigerian dey claim but suppressing one's emotions is not same as having no emotions at all. Instead like a boiling kettle with a stopper keeping the steam trapped, it is only a matter of time or the right trigger for all those bottled-up tension/pressure/emotions to explode and when it does, it is usually ugly.

headbasher96:
oga just because u try to harden your heart e no work no feel say another person no fit do moreover i get time for money pass woman

Harden my heart ke? I use my God given energy for better things abeg!;

Instead what I said I have observed many who claim to have hardened their hearts towards others and in all, they turn out more toxic than average when hit by such things as heartbreak or even betrayal. It is a waste of energy and human effort in my opinion.

Kei144:
If the Sodomites are suppose to be so affirming and loving why do they go after Jesus Christ, Christians and children.

Would Jesus have called them Sodomites and said any of what you have here of them or would he have simply walked away?

Jashub:
The answer is simple : they want to forcefully make you to accept their own views of how they understand Jesus ,religion and upbringing. This is called bigotry and it is another form of intolerance

Rubbish!

Na wetin Jesus Christ send una make una do be this?

headbasher96:
since i hardened my heart i don rest if u cook breakfast i go help u serve am still wash the play
self love is bae country hard now make person no come spoil my joy abeg
we are nothing but pencils in the hands of the creator
we are nothing but agbado in the eyes of tinubu amoda ogunlere

Na people wey dey claim hardened hearts dey react worst to being served breakfast...abeg find better make you talk.

dattaswami1:
I agree with you. Jesus told “I am the path”. Jesus did not tell “Jesus is the path”. There is difference between these two statements. If Jesus told that Jesus alone is the path, it means that the specific human incarnation called as Jesus alone is the path. But, He did not tell like that. When Jesus told that He is the only path, it means that the human incarnation that alone guides you in a right direction is the real path. This alone provides you the opportunity of direct worship. Even the energetic incarnations do not provide you the facility to worship directly. The inert statues and photos are out of the scope of direct worship when even the alive energetic incarnations do not provide such facility.

And your swami proves my point again...

When Jesus Christ said, " I am The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father except through me" in John 14 vs 6, He spoke those words to reveal His existence in relation to the one who is the Father. Those who are versed in the Truth of God immediately understand that Jesus Christ, is God's very own Law or Laws - the only law for those who seek direct access to God's Heaven -, God's very own Eternal Life and God's very own Truth/Word. He is born from the same source that is God on those aspects is what Jesus Christ told you in that one verse... the culmination of all that He revealed throughout several of His teachings to His disciples.

All that went over your swamis head there who is still chasing after shadows there speaking of incarnations and the lot.

dattaswami1:
What is scripture? Scripture is defined as the word of God, which is the knowledge given by God for the sake of welfare of humanity. All agree to this. But, to give word, which is preaching of knowledge, God must have mouth and throat. We have established that God is unimaginable because the substance with which God is made and the original form in which God exists are unimaginable.

If scripture was indeed given for the "welfare of humanity" wouldn't it follow that all of humanity directly benefit regularly from scripture?

God gave "mouth and throat" to just a select view and these are those marked by clear submission and obedience of God's very Laws as given in scripture. Meaning not just anyone can "preach" the Truth of God. Only those marked by God's own Spirit of Truth(Jesus Christ) can speak His Truth. All others are nothing but liars as their opinions, even those of God, amount to lies when put up against that decreed by God..

dattaswami1:
There is a reason why I explained this concept on the basis of logic. The powerful logic behind the concept itself is the strongest scriptural authority. When such strong logic exists, no separate theoretical quotation from the scripture is needed. If strong logic to support a concept is absent and it is only supported by quoting the scripture, it must be rejected. If it is not logical, it should be treated as some insertion in the scripture. Such inserted wrong concepts should be rejected.

Before you go about attempting to explain anything you refer to as logic, ensure you have a clear understanding of what logic really means.. you cannot offer ideas that are established only in your mind as logic .

Blue86:
1. I think I preached about Jesus saying we should live ready for Him, because He is coming back. And to live ready is to keep Himself unspotted from worldly lusts, and you came in there and soiled and condemned the post.

2. And you say, you Know Jesus, and His Spirit, and condemn the post of living holy in a fallen world.
So the Jesus and His Spirit and God you know tells you to condemn posts such as that, huh?

1. Over and over in His teachings, He called on His followers to live their lives in submission to and obedience to His teachings and commandments - all about 100 of them - until the very end in order to be saved. And you think my pointing this out means I soiled your post?

2. You mean your post in which you basically parrotted the doctrines and traditions of men, lies which Jesus Christ warned were an abomination to God? All this in place of the actual teachings of Jesus Christ which stress obedience of the actual commands given by Jesus Christ to His followers?

Blue86:
A. Like you contradicted Jesus Christ that God didn't create humans on earth to marry?

B. Like you contradicted Jesus Christ on a man's revelatory dream, of angels, Jesus, church, sword, that it is just a dream?

And many more things? No be by mouth. But by power, and life.

A. You only need to use your brain in this to understand what is said, rather than assume that by pushing what are your delusions, you can win against another.

Jesus Christ informed you that God created some Eunuchs from birth, made some Eunuchs in this life and allowed others to live as Eunuchs for the sake of His Kingdom. CLEARLY, human beings were not put on earth for the purpose of marriage much the same way they were not put on earth to all procreate...this isn't rocket science!

B. A revelatory dream of angels, Jesus... go back to that thread and read clearly why his dream could not be of God. Jesus Christ clearly informed you in John 14 vs 15 - 27 of who His Spirit lives in and also what it is His Spirit will reveal to those He lives inside of. According to Jesus Christ, His Spirit will never reveal that which contradicts Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God nor will He serve the personal wills of men - John 16 vs 4 - 15.

So why do you outrightly reject Jesus Christ yet feel I need to be attacked for pointing out the obvious?

dattaswami1:
We need not blindly accept every statement of any scripture. Analyzing any statement is necessary to find out whether the statement is genuine or it has been inserted later on. Without this acid test, no statement should be accepted blindly or by force.

Even God Krishna Himself said that everything that He preached, should be thoroughly analyzed before accepting it. One should never ever accept any scripture of any religion blindly without prefect logical analysis of the statements. God is the most genius and He never say anything illogical. If any part is illogical be sure that it is an insertion.

we shouldn't blindly accept scripture but we should rather blindly injest the various assertions made by third-parties such as your Krishna all of which have no grounding in scripture?

Blue86:
Talk to Him.
Talk to the Spirit of Truth.
Let Him speak to you.

Oh, I know Him and yes, He indeed speaks and He speaks the language of Jesus Christ, the Truth of God. And according to Him every spirit that contravenes or contradicts Jesus Christ or God is not of God and Jesus Christ.

dattaswami1:
The scripture does not give the detailed address of any specific human incarnation since God is not bound by any official schedule and can incarnate anywhere and anytime as per the justified necessity.

Interesting claim. .. so because scripture did not, your swami then took it on herself to add his own ideas into God's mouth by pretending to speak for God?