₦airaland Forum

Eboski:
She later died after taking her to the hospital

WOW... what a way to go.

Tunechi5:
Who will be right at the end

It is not based on scripture which instead indicates that only a born-again Christian can end up in either Heaven or Hell. And given that atheists are not born-again, well, who ever came up with that image never in fact read scripture before.

Gospel2Day:
1. Your sacrilegious comment exudes terrible arrogance and silly ignorance.
God, though All-Sufficient, commanded the Jews to bring all tithes and offerings into His Temple, so that there would be enough food for the priests and Levites. Do you know the amount churches like Deeper Life spend in a year on Gospel and Crusade Outreaches?
Do you know how much they secretly give out as charities without putting it on screen or social media?

2. The schools they built which you criticized in your irrational way of seeing things, do you know the number of people those schools employ?
Do you know the multiplier effect it produces in the number of Nigerians who are dependents of the staffers who have their daily needs met?
You're pitiably ignorant. Your hatred for Jesus Christ and His church has deadened your reasoning and makes you sound both senile and insensible in your outburst.

3. Do you tell drinkers, smokers, gamblers and womanizers what to do with their money? The demons possessing you won't let you care about those social misfits.

4. The only people you feel you can lecture on to whom they give and where they spend their money are those funding the spread of the gospel of Jesus and contributing to both charities and Christian institutions that create jobs for Nigerians. You need deliverance. May God forgive your sacrilegious and blasphemous impudence and insolence towards His church. Repent. Shalom.

1. Since when did your Deeper Life become a part of the Jewish state of Israel in the Land of Canaan, the Nation to which God crafted and handed His Old Law of Moses to as a National Constitution in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20?

2. Did Jesus Christ in fact command any of His followers to build schools in His name, let alone churches of monuments of the sort your church builds pretending it does so in Jesus Christ's name?

3. Did Jesus Christ tell you that there are demons running those particular outfits you point out as though you are better than they? Did Jesus Christ not drink and eat among those particular sinners - this without castigating them for their lifestyle choices - you finger as though worse than you and your church?

4. Well, recall that Jesus Christ vehemently lectured the Pharisees and Sadducees, calling them hypocrites for carrying out what were clearly sins against God as there acts were against God's very commandments, only they hid behind the name of God in carrying out those sins against Him.

Naijanascam:
This is already happening in other countries of the world where there is a sincere and selfless leadership and it will happen here if we eventually get those quality selfless leaders leading us into the those pleasant places

How can it be already happening when Jesus Christ has yet to return to reign over the Jews?

cherishmichael:
Revelation 21:4
And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

Please stop pulling verses out-of-context blindly in your attempts at making God seem a liar.

1. Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth. The first heaven and the first earth had disappeared. Now there was no sea.
2 And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem,[a] coming down out of heaven from God. It was prepared like a bride dressed for her husband.
3 I heard a loud voice from the throne. It said, “Now God’s home is with people. He will live with them. They will be his people. God himself will be with them and will be their God.
4 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death, sadness, crying, or pain. All the old ways are gone.”
5 The one who was sitting on the throne said, “Look, I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this, because these words are true and can be trusted.” - Revelations 21 vs 1 - 5

The writer of the dream/vision clearly informed you lot that this will not take place until after the New Heaven and New Earth are established, this is after the millennial reign and after Jesus Christ's return to judge His people. Why, then do you quote these things out of context? What do you gain from this?

HIPROFILE:
most women feel so in marriages because the often expect too much from the man..

Same goes for men who almost always expect too much from their womenfolk as well. These days, you have some even going as far as suggesting that the way to have it all is to marry more wives and/or have side chicks.

masmnd8:
Werey want to marry a very calm person. Person who is used to sleeping around want to marry someone faithful, person who is very sting want to marry a generous person. Person who no like work want to marry a hardworker. Dat marriage no go work, oil and water do not mix. Marriage is beautiful if you marry the right person and you are the right person

You have to be the right person yourself... that is all you can be sure of in marriage. No matter how long you search, you will never be sure of whether the other person is right enough or not, or if that person will not up and change the next day. So it is key that one at least is sure he/she is the right person for that particular union and goes from there.

lawbabs:
A. You have a point but let me also bring out a perspective. Based on my knowledge of the scripture, there is a place that the dead go to after death in wait for the judgement that will determine their final destination. This place is erroneously called the purgatory by the Catholics cos there is no purging after death. But from my study of the scripture, this place has two gulfs (divide) - Paradise and hades! Paradise isn’t heaven and hades isn’t hell. But the experience of both is like heaven and hell. In paradise, there is access to the light, the glory and presence of God but in the hades, there is also access to the pain and horror of hell.

I have scriptures that gives me that understanding: 1. The story of Poor Lazarus and the rich man. Please note that this is not a parable. Read it and read the parables that Jesus told. They are different. This seems to be a real experience that mere men may not be able to comprehend so they call it parable. Luke 16: 19-31.

2. The story of the thief that Jesus responded to on the cross. He said today, you will be with me in paradise. Luke 23:43.

3. Acts 2:27

4. Also, apostle Paul said that those who sleep in the Lord will rise again (with a glorious body) at resurrection and those who are yet to die will be changed to a glorious body, and we will be caught up with Christ in the sky when he returns (1 Corinthians 15 from 51).

There are other scripture but let me limit it to these. Could he have gone to paradise and return? Why I am drawing this case is that we may not be sure of His experience and it may not also be in conflict with God’s word.

A. I am afraid this idea of yours is not of scripture at all. There is no place in scripture where the dead have access to glory and light, and God as you claim. Those ideas are fiction.

1. If we are to assume the story of Lazarus and the rich man is not a parable/story, then we should make sure to observe that it is clearly indicated in that "story/parable" that Paradise or the bosom of Abraham only exists for those who are of the Old Law of Moses.... i.e. those who are of the blood of Jacob alone. And according to the same "story/parable", Jesus Christ clearly informs us that no one will be sent back from the dead to warn the living. Also, if you follow what is in fact stated in scripture, you will find that it is clearly stated that the righteous dead sleep in their graves, this is in contrast to the claims contained in the "story/parable" where instead all the dead seem to be alive and living a whole second life in the grave. So, this "story/parable" does not support any of what our man in Nazarawa claims.

2. Jesus Christ's statement that the thief would be in paradise with Him that day could simply have meant they would both die/sleep in the grave that very day, as opposed to them both hanging on the cross for days before eventually being stabbed to death or having their bones broken.

3. As for Acts 2 vs 27, well, Jesus Christ did die and was in the grave for 3 days. He did not rot in the grave as He rose on the 3rd day, and never died again. Last I checked, no other man can boast of having the same experience.

4. I don't know about the glorious body claim, but I do know that according to scripture, those who sleep in their graves, will be raised from the dead.... and only those with eternal life .... both those of the Old Testament periods during the first resurrection, and eventually those of the Kingdom of God during the second resurrection. But again note how they are indicated as sleeping in their graves... and not living some second life there in the grave?

Please note how none of the above correlate with any of what you claimed initially, and none of them corroborate the claim made by our man from Nassarawa.

gameova:
....

If you had continued reading that very same chapter of John 14, you would have reached the lines where Jesus Christ, God's very standard of righteousness then states that those who love Him are those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments and that He only lives inside of those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 25.

Look, there is no need to stoop to lies!

dollytino4real:
no o! Apostle Paul used it too, Elijah n elisha used too

Jesus Christ didn't call you to live according to Elisha or according to Paul, and if I recall well, Paul himself never said a kerchief or any object for that matter could be set as what you call a mantle of power... so this idea of yours is indeed foreign to the Gospel as taught by Jesus Christ, and even that attempted by Paul.

AmbFmk:
Which means, any sin against the Holy Spirit is forgivable.

So what you are insinuating here is that Jesus Christ lied when He outright declared that anyone who sins against the Spirit of Truth, aka the Spirit of God, will not be forgiven?

Michdear:
that sound logical,so in other words marry a woman who makes you happy but what if she’s not doing her best as mother,you need someone who can also be a good mother to your kids

Can't the father of the kids take on that role instead?

jaxxy:
I was going to explain what I meant by foundation bt he helped me out. ur choices are ur foundation.

I guess I have a problem with the use of the word "foundation" here as it suggests once the marriage has been entered into, it no longer requires work to be done on it.

dollytino4real:
Na our mantle of power

Mantle of power? This is paganism and nothing more.

jaxxy:
Yes bt business can also fail and ome back up. it depends on the choices u made and continue making.

it doesn't always have to crash especially if u get the foundation right.

How many businesses fail and come back up again?

What exactly is this "right" foundation you speak of?

Can we please stop propping these things up as if on pedestals? That happens to be some of the core reason why many marriages fail - people having unrealistic expectations of others and forgetting to work on themselves at the same time.

Tboy222:
Who instituted marriage?

The same God that cursed marriage in Genesis 3 vs 16 and later on in Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 reminded you that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God. So stop ignorantly dragging God's name into that which is not of God.

zionstaar75:
I will continue till I leave this world.true children care what their father's house looks like and am a child of God.if u don't get it forgerrit. I will no longer respond to this thread

Jesus Christ talk say no be by mouth person dey take claim Child of God status.. He said it is by Living one's life in continuous trust and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's Truth, than one is set free from slavery to sin by God's Truth - John 8 vs 31 - 35.

So if your life is instead focused on following the doctrines and traditions of your pastors and their churches, you can never be children of God. And running back into the cocoon that is the same doctrines and traditions of your mogs will not change anything of what the Truth of God said.

FrauleinBlossom:
Because the Holy Spirit is the Will of God, the Living Law that finds expression in the sowing and reaping that we find in nature. It ensures that every action generates a reaction, what one sows that one must reap, karma or whatever you may call it. The Laws that govern the Universe are the works of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is not the Will of God. Instead Jesus Christ is the Will of God - God's very own Law and Testament in the Kingdom of God.

Tboy222:
Marriage is an institution that has no operating manual, only God keeps marriages nothing else.

God told you over 2000 years ago that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 - so where do you lot get this idea that it is God that keeps your marriages?

jaxxy:
Marriage is a work in progress and a journey. Its what u put into it u get out and also who u choose as a partner on that journey.

Businesses can fail...and so also marriages. Life goes on whichever one happens.

CaptainAyub:
90% of married men are at this stage.
The typical African woman is incapable of unconditional love,unlike men who can see a woman with no money,no job,no skill,no career,no fine face,no height, no nyash,yet still go for her.
But for the African woman,you must bring something.

African men are as much to blame afterall, it takes two to make a marriage.

sondeis:
Our prayer should be that we marry our wife. If you marry ur wife, challenges go dey but not to that extent.

No matter how much you say those prayers, Life will always happen. Life is not partial and does not pretend to favor you remaining married or not. So, even if you married your wife, marriage can still eventually end. So don't beat yourself up thinking these things define you as an individual.

Shutupthere:
Yes the body of man was made ... if you would like to interpret the body as man literally . You are right to some extent but if the Spirit gives you understanding you will understand my earlier points. Are you saying a corpse can be referred to as man ? If that is the case then you are right in your own reasoning... But what makes man human is the soul and the spirit

I forgot to answer your question from earlier. Following what is written in Genesis 2 vs 6 - 7, indeed a corpse is a man with the breath of life gone from it.

I know we assume without evidence that it is the soul that leaves the body but that belief is not at all scriptural as instead, it is instead the breath of God that leaves a man when He dies. And as God clearly said - in Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22 - the man then perishes in his grave.

hartopher76:
Married people, have you ever come to a point were you feel that outside your children, you have no other business with your wife.

Whichever way it turns out, it is OK. It's not the end of the world and does not mean one party was more evil than the other and so to blame. Life happens... We learn and we move on from it the best we can.

Blue86:
Funny. Go back to the Bible.
And the Spirit of the Bible.
He will teach you.

The Spirit whom you attempt to lie against here is actually the Spirit of Jesus Christ aka the Spirit of Truth, and as Jesus Christ told you, He would never give you anything that contradicts Jesus Christ in any way of form, let alone violate God's own Law and Truth.

So, I suggest you look for ways to eject that spirit that fed you such lies against God, cause God isn't a liar and neither is His Spirit.

NoToPile:
So you are saying deeper life has said in the past that members are to tie scarf always? Like every time, I am not even talking about going to church here. I have members as friends and they are not on hairscarf everytime.
Yes it is biblical to cover your hair in church, nothing wrong if the ushers try to enforce. If they say it should not be enforced on new members we'll that's the directive they received from their pastor.
But It is biblical to cover your hair to church, except you have another opinion on that.

Paul opinion expressed in 1 Corinthians 11 vs 13 - 16 is just that, man's doctrine, a lie, since it contradicts Jesus Christ who instead said that those who are His followers are EQUALS - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10, meaning there is no such thing as a husband being head of his wife or vice versa. The only Head, and authority, in the Kingdom of God, is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone.

Now, by instituting even more laws on top of this which is already conflicting doctrine, to begin with, this man succeeded in further shackling his followers by causing them to believe that modest dressing, another idea of men, includes coverage of the head for women. So, what do you think? Can you not see how this problem is of church doctrine and not of God, to begin with?

Blue86:
Hmmm. Study about How God speaks via similtudes. You have your Bible in your hand.

There is absolutely no scriptural bearing for any of what you claim here, you know that right?

God never gave men permission to quote Him out-of-context, nor did He give men permission to use His Name for that which has absolutely nothing to do with Him( and His Kingdom), which is exactly what you are guilty of doing right here. .

Dynmyt:
Are u ok? Wer in this ur post, did it write she should be stoned because she was without head covering?

Actually, deeper lifers are known to stone with their eyes, and mouths even, those who do not conform to their church doctrines...

safesurfer:
Kumuyi never said its a sin for a woman to leave their hair uncovered o. Lol

He taught that it was against the angels for women to leave their hair uncovered. And he also taught that women were to dress modestly at all times, and the church's doctrinal picture of a modestly dressed woman is a picture of a woman with her head covered.

Please stop lying abeg!

Blue86:
Seated in the church, Amos 3 : 11 came out of my mouth.
Reading it, I knew God was inferring it to a country coming against another.
Not the one we already know of.

It is a fulfilling of what the Lord had already said, we shall hear of wars and it's rumours.
And we are to see that we ( followers of Christ) are not troubled by these things.
For all these things must be, but the end is not yet.
Matthew 24 : 6

So, a message God clearly meant only for the Family of Israel, you distort in order to push your own private agenda as if you God?

1. People of Israel, listen to this message! This is what the Lord said about you, Israel. This message is about all the families that I brought from the land of Egypt.
2 “There are many families on earth, but you are the only family I chose to know in a special way. And you turned against me, so I will punish you for all your sins.” The Cause of Israel’s Punishment
3 Two people will not walk together unless they have agreed to do so.
4 A lion will roar in the forest only if it catches its prey. A young lion roaring in his cave means he has caught something to eat.
5 A bird doesn’t fly into a trap unless there is food in it. If a trap closes, it will catch the bird.
6 If people hear the warning blast of a trumpet, they shake with fear. If trouble comes to a city, the Lord caused it to happen.
7 When the Lord God decides to do something, he will first tell his servants, the prophets.
8 When a lion roars, people are frightened. When the Lord God speaks, a prophet must prophesy.
9-10 Go to the high towers in Ashdod and in Egypt and announce this message from the Lord: “Come together on the mountains of Samaria. See the great confusion there because the people don’t know how to live right. See how cruel they are to others. They take things from people to hide in their high towers. Their treasuries are filled with the things they have taken in war.”
11 So the Lord God says, “An enemy will surround your land. They will break down your strong walls and take the things you have hidden in your high towers.” - Amos 3 vs 1 - 11

The nerves of you folks... I don't begin to understand at all.

mezerite:
1. while the people under the law of conscience will be judged under the law of conscience.
2. all children and the childlike people will all make heaven, ( that is the people that has no law)

1. Which one again be the law of conscience? Where God take give you law of conscience?
2. So, one no longer needs to be born-again to enter into the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell are both abodes in?

faithfull18:
He didn't say the hair shouldn't be covered in church or when praying or prophesying, he was talking about those who cover 24/7 , Nigerians and quoting out of context be like 5&6.

The women are to dress modestly at all times, right? Meaning 24/7 and the church's doctrine of modest dressing indicates wearing of headcover, so why do you not see that the 24/7 head-covering is in fact of church doctrine?