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gameova:
What about believing in Jesus death and resurrection ? Like the Bible said, it's not all about righteousness.

Your bible does not say that. You don't need to stoop to lying, you know.

LienwaltAbel:
Bro just leave people to worship whatever they wanna worship. That's how human rights and freedom work. If tradition and culture are sacrificed for the sake of the rights stipulated by society, so be it

Commonsense!

LalastiklaIa:
Happy Sunday Kobojunkie, hope you were in church today

I am not a Churchian since I am a follower of Jesus Christ instead.

icewinz:
Deeper life don dey wise up this days.

Wise up to what exactly?

icewinz:
The TV wey dem band na them dey use zam pass any other church now. Every of there churches look like cinema with a plethora of TV's dey use to watch the supretendient on monday and most sunday.

This is a welcome development and a win to the church in Nigeria in settling a long debate (although it hasn't been settled wholely, as the scripture in 1 Corinthians 11 was talking about headship in marriage because it said the women folk should cover their head and not thier hair).
All thesame sha it's a big win. It takes a lot of humility as a leader to come back and correct what you've said earlier. It's a move that is applaudable. It is better late than never.

The Truth of Jesus Christ has been available to men for at least 2000 years, yet this man has preached nothing but LIES to you lot for over 40 years. Now you suddenly think he is wising up? to what exactly? His own lies?

Amb1045:
According to him, “Somebody is coming to our church for the first time. And she happens to be a lady not covering her head. We ask the person to cover her head before coming in. We don’t know whether the person does not even know God. We confront her out there before she even enters the church. We don’t know if she does not know how to pray or prophesy. But we impose rules on her.
If I were the person, I would wonder what kind of church is this? If they treat me like a primary school girl, that will be my last time coming to the church.
If I don’t tell you maybe nobody will tell you. There are some wives who dress shabbily and are no longer attractive to the man. There are some single sisters that are not presentable. Anybody who is looking for the will of God may not be attracted to them. The Bible says every woman that prayeth or prophesies. The reason why you are covering is either you are praying or prophesying.”
Kumuyi added that because of persistent covering there will be “heat in the hair and it will emit odour,” Women who practice such according to him, “put themselves in bondage because they never read the word.”

I happen to have witnessed something similar to this back when my mum used to drag me to her deeper life church sessions back when I was a kid. The teaching that women were to cover their heads all the time came from Kumuyi himself and was enforced at pretty much all of his church branches. On this particular occasion, a lady walked in off the street and sat on some benches from the pastor. Next thing, the pastor began preaching about head coverings and women needing to dress modestly as they like to say it, and out of embarrassment, the lady snuck back out of the church.

This attempt at putting the blame on ushers is ridiculous.

Gadalo1990:
I dont believe he exizt and if he doez, I dont think he iz az wize and kind az they make him ub to be. God iz not all loving. He Juz wantz to be loved and zeved by humanz. I am looking to inceaze in wizdom az a young man and i think believing in God iz foolizhnezz.

It's Ok that you choose to believe that.

shinealight:
Very typical of our African “Christians”…. they study everything like they’re reading a book to pass an exam. Their intuition plays no part at all…..No inner warmth whatsoever! Even the Jews, among whom Christ incarnated stand no chance of guiding them in anything!!

What in the world are you rambling on about now?

What has my warmth to do with that which is the Truth of God? Are you somehow under some delusion that you can change the facts by some show of these emotional warmth you harp on?

12tribesww:
The first problem we suffer from, if the color of the true image of Jesus can be changed, don't you think they must have also changed the message?. Read John 7:38/ 1 John 2: 3-4 (If you truly believe in Christ) is the problem of identity. Lets not "assume" Christ and King Solomon were black men...They are BLACK MEN. On the issue of righteousness, read Psalms 119:172 to understand what the standards of righteousness is according to the bible. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have.

That problem only exists in your mind there. Jesus Christ came to call all those who are tired of this world and are heavy laden - Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30. If you are not one of those, it means you are probably still attached to the meaningless things of this world and not ready to let go.

12tribesww:
Interesting take chief...but one question to you is who did God offer salvation to? everyone or just a specific set of people? If you can point out some scriptures, fantastic.

Jesus Christ's offer of Salvation was for those who are weary(of this world) and heavy laden- Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30. Obviously, only a one who is tired of this world would be willing to give up everything in order to obtain a place in Heaven. And yes, you have to abandon everything in order to obtain the treasure that is Heaven- Matthew 13 vs 42 - 44 - there is no other way.

shinealight:
1. So, the question that arises from this is: In the Trinity of God, does it mean that the Holy Spirit is greater than the Father and the Son? The answer is simple if people are willing to embrace the Revealed Knowledge concerning this matter!
The Holy Spirit is responsible for Creation and ALL the Divine Laws that are woven into Creation which govern it!
2. So, contravention of any of those adamantine Laws goes hand in hand with consequences that can only be redeemed through experiencing the repercussions attached to it, either here and now (in this Earth-life) or in a subsequent incarnation on Earth.
Therefore, reincarnation is a fact of life!!
Hence, most of us come to this Earth with heavy karma concerning things we did or did not do in a previous Earth-life.
We have to live off the consequences of our previous actions or inactions before the slate can be wiped clean ….which is synonymous with maturity of Soul, followed by ability to ascend into a more luminous region in the gigantic Creation which comprises “many Mansions in the Father’s House”….to borrow the words of the scriptures!!

1. I am afraid you are mistaken in your analysis. According to scripture,

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In Scripture, beginning in the Old Testament, we learn the following of God :
▪︎ God is God of Wrath
▪︎ God is God of Laws
▪︎ God is Good/Righteous
▪︎ God is Faithful
▪︎ God is Love
▪︎ God is True (Word)
▪︎ God is Life
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And of Jesus Christ, we are informed by Him, particularly in John 14 vs 6, that He is
▪︎ God's Truth (Word)
▪︎ God's Life
▪︎ God's Law (one of many) aka The Way
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And of the Spirit of Truth, the one you call the Holy Spirit, particularly in John 14 vs 25 - 27 & John 16 vs 4 - 15
▪︎ God's Truth(Word) in Jesus Christ

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Clearly, this axiom isn't about who is greater than the other, but simply as God will have it.

2. That all reads like a jumbled-up attempt at inserting that which has nothing to do with this into the context. Your claim makes absolutely no sense of any kind in this.

olaniyilukman:
Enhance your intelligent capacity by Google search and conducting research on slave trade and see how useless the white folks you worship trade your grandparents for coins

This is meaningless jabber as far as my comment is concerned.

capnies:
EVEN CHRISTIAN SINNERS WILL ALSO PERISH LIKE THE UNBELIEVERS

Nope... according to Jesus Christ only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8 & Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 27 - where Heaven and Hell are both abodes in. What this means is that only those who are born-again can end up in either of Heaven or Hell at the end - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46.

Vviano:
1) So where do the dead stay while waiting for the coming of Christ�

2) Jesus Christ never came to preach Christianity to humanity rather he came to preach LOVE and LOVE is not just attributed to Christians alone

1. Those who gained eternal life sleep in their Graves.

2. That lie was fed you by your pastors and mogs. If you actually opened up your brain and read through the Gospels tabula rasa, you would find that what Jesus Christ gave His followers is in fact a Law which consists of about 100 commandments which He commands them to live by and obey until the end in order to be saved - John 14 vs 20 - 25 & John 15 vs 14 & Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13

lapazi:
You didn’t ans the question

I did since even Jesus Christ said that He came to call those who are weary of this world and heavy laden - Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30 - and not those who are content in their world and way.

Idamond:
For those unbelievers or those who never know about Jesus but live rightly will surely make heaven but for those wicked ones that didn't hear about the gospel will go to hell for there conscious and Right doing will be use to judge those people..

i am afraid you are wrong!

Just as God's Law is eternal so also is His judgement. That decree was made by God to apply to all mankind and God never receded that ruling. So you have to show where the Almighty retracted His judgement in order for your claim to be considered right.

According to Jesus Christ, only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8 - where Heaven and Hell are both abodes in - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 27 - and as a result, all those who will end up in Heaven and in Hell are all born-again believers in Jesus Christ. This is the ruling from over 2000 years ago by Jesus Christ, the King over Heaven and over Hell, in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46

afadi2410:
Am sure you yourself do not believe what you just stated

Then you don't know anything about me.

Offpoint1:
So what drugs the native doctor who returned with heaven was on? Since he saw people already in heaven and so called Christians are rejoicing?

I don't know. The man may have a medical condition that caused him to be in a state that made him appear dead. I mean it is well known that people used to be unknowingly buried alive back during the time of our ancestors.

As for seeing people in heaven and all, I think what he may have experienced instead was born of delusions formed from that already stored up over time in his mind.

Beosten:
Christians are very funny people. See interpretation, mehn.

I resigned from being a pastor in Winners Chapel. In all my years as a preacher, I never heard of this. I've read works from Myles Munroe, Kenneth Hagin, Copeland, Youngi Cho, Bonnke, etc but this assertion of yours is a bombshell.

What interpretation?

What I said is as is written right there in that book by the writer, and this from thousands of years ago. Why you allow other men feed you their regurgitate which you refer to as interpretation, only you know.

naijaclass:
In Christian hamartiology, eternal sins, unforgivable sins, unpardonable sins, or ultimate sins are sins which will not be forgiven by God. ..
Bible scholars please throw more light to this

It is a Christian axiom.... the why, well, there don't need to be any.

King11th:
General Superintendent of Deeper Life Bible Church, Pastor Williams Kumuyi has cautioned ushers in his church to stop imposing head covering rules on ladies, stressing that persistent coverings causes heat in the hair and it will emit odour.

The revered pastor lamented that many Christians who don’t know how to interpret the word of God are driving people away from the church.

This story no make sense. Na the pastor preach say woman must cover hair. How e come be say him dey blame ushers for women covering their hair?

Many a deeper-life women struggle with alopecia no thanks to the churches strict doctrine on head coverings but na smell this one dey focus on?

phemy36:
What I know is that God will perfect His will in your life and mine IJN

That makes no sense for a response in this discussion.

You should know that Soundbite Christianity only leaves one even more ignorant of God's Truth than when one started out seeking God. It is worthless and antichrist in all ramifications.

kenzysmith:
This guy is yet to have a issue in his marriage

Source?

3verblazing:
Nice ..lucky you!... we city dwellers don't enjoy this kinda luxury. Look around, you might find more. Careful though, lalasticalala may just be strolling nearby

You know you can easily raise snails right there in your backyard or balcony or even kitchen?

dontrulee:
Okay o. I get your point and it's okay if you don't understand mine. Nothing spoil.

What I am saying is God's Truth is Jesus Christ. The opinions of Paul are simply that... opinions of Paul.

dontrulee:
1. So are you trying to say that God stopped speaking to humans since Revelation 22?

2. Besides, any statement I utter now will definitely have more than three witnesses, will that also be established as Truth??

God's Law is Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ gave His final decree to men before He left this world. The Holy Spirit, the one who the Father sent in Jesus Christ's place is the very same Spirit of Truth that lived inside of Jesus Christ when He was here on earth and that is the reason why Jesus Christ explained, of the Spirit of Truth to come, that He would not teach you anything that contravenes Him nor give revelations of that which have nothing to do with Him(and His Kingdom), Jesus Christ, in any way or form, because He, the Spirit of Truth, is subject to Jesus Christ, God's Truth personified - John 14 vs 25 - 27 & John 16 vs 4 - 15

2. Three witnesses in scripture or 3 arbitrary witnesses? Explain what you mean.

dontrulee:
He may not be sure of what it was but he definitely had such experiences and that's why he recorded it down. That it is not concrete to you doesn't mean that it was not concrete to him. It is very possible to have experiences that you yourself do not fully understand maybe because it's your first time of having such. In such cases, it will be quite difficult for you to explain such experiences to others. I hope you understand.

Again, Paul's opinions/claims do not change that declared by God in His Word. It is as simple as that.

You are meant to validate all claims against that declared by God, not give credence to even that which the one who experienced it isn't even sure of.

dontrulee:
1. Is there anyway to verify that a word is really from God?

2. Anyone can just claim that God speaks to him/her you know. Even if God speaks to someone, such person can only relate or express such speakings based on his/her understanding and experiences. If we both experience heaven today, do you know that our stories about heaven will be different though similar?? Do you get the point now?

1. YES! In Scripture, God's Word through His prophets are written with God as the speaker. As for the accounts of men, the rule is by the accounts of 2 or 3 witnesses shall a claim be established as Truth.

2. Well, that is why we have the Word of God through His prophets to validate all claims against. Any claim that does not fit any of that previously spoken by God through His prophets or through Jesus Christ is not of God.

dontrulee:
I was talking of Paul's experience in 2 Corinthians 12:2-3. Even he wasn't sure whether it was an out of body experience.

If he wasn't even sure of what it was, why do you speak of it as though it is concrete?

dontrulee:
2. Paul also had similar experience when he had an out of body experience which he described in the Bible.

What out of body experience is that? Are you saying Paul had a vision or that Paul died and came back to life?

dontrulee:
1. And there is not only one heaven. The same scripture talks about the first heaven, second heaven, third heaven and the likes. That's why I mentioned that heaven is a broad term. Heaven can't be described with the human mind or understanding

Paul suggested a third heaven and he alone seems privy to what that means since no other record in scripture backs up that claim of his.

And Paui ain't God that anyone should look to his opinions as though on par with God's own Word.

Tboy222:
Mesus an American kept seeing the number 11:34 every-day, on his digital clock, on the signboards, on the back of vans, lorries, club houses, virtually everywhere and it was sort of spooky, very weird, then one day he decided to write the number down...

Then guess what what he did, he turned the page upside down, and 11 34 became Hell.

Very furious, having lost his dad in a painful manner including some setbacks of his, he called out angrily and asked God if He would send him to Hell after killing his father, he asked if God would kill him too.

That night he went to sleep, what happened next can better be explained by mesus himself.

You religious folks are so full of hogwash... it almost seems you major in making God and the things of God a laughingstock.

tillaman:
Nice one OP

For those shouting see Akpu everywhere Akpu wey no pass 12
My guy Akin when I dey school dey chop 14 if e no dey form but if he dey form e dey chop 21

And how does Akin look with all 14 akpu regularly following him around in his bum and neck?