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Steep:
The demonic who was residing in the tombs had super human strength.
Luke 8:29 (For he had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had caught him: and he was kept bound with chains and in fetters; and he brake the bands, and was driven of the devil into the wilderness.)

Meaning his body had enhanced strength, he was able to brake metal chains like nothing.

His body had enhanced strength or he simply had a higher tolerance for pain, unlike most of us?

Steep:
so they are your ideas, right?

Not mine since I didn't write the books of Enoch and the book called [i]demonologie [/i]as well as the many others that add various interpretations to that written in just a few lines of Genesis 6.

As a matter of fact, the book, demonologie, was written by none other than King James, the same one who translated and compiled what is the King James Bible.

TenQ:
Just show me a single place where Jesus said:
1. Michael is not an Angel
2. Demons are fallen angels
3. Michael according to Daniel is a man.

That's why you couldn't Answer three simple questions I gave you

How can I show you what Jesus Christ never spoke of?

He didn't speak of fallen angels /Nephilims etc. in reference to what is the Kingdom of God which He is the ruler of, but what makes you think that then is a license for you or anyone to add anything that you feel like and claim it is of God?

As for your questions, I answered them all in the context of scripture. Your refusal to accept the answers is not of me, but of you.

Steep:
Where did you see the art demonology and angelology?

The thoughts you claim are yours are from the doctrines of such ideas. They are not from scripture.

Rosyflower:
Rant! Rant!! Rant!!! The pressure is getting too much for me. I don't know how much more I can stay celibate. Been separated/practically divorced for about 3 years and all this while, I never had anything to do with any man. The sexual urges comes monthly and it has been the grace of God that I haven't given in to self pleasure or actual s@xual contact. I am in my late 30s, a mum with a very high sexual Libido which I have been controlling but it is getting too much and I can see myself giving in already but I don't want to. Almost 3years of no sex is not a joke. I can barely keep up Last night I slept with my pu##y throbing wet and my niqqle erect looking for who to practically chew them. For how much longer will I hold out. I have been able to build my spiritual life to a level but my flesh is getting too weak. My body needs s&x. I need to get laid I need my back bonned out till I am gasping for breath.

Yet I don't want to sin against God. I have begged that he destroy the s@xual feelings in my body. I want to be married properly before having s3x (yes, i am definitely remarrying). Two years ago, I bought a little bullet vi brator and a pu33y sucker but I never used it. It's still there brand new. I am tempted to dig them out and pleasure my self. Ha!!! God help me

Here's something you don't seem to be aware of.

27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’[e]
28 But I tell you that if a man looks at a woman and wants to sin sexually with her, he has already committed that sin with her in his mind.
29 If your right eye makes you sin, take it out and throw it away. It is better to lose one part of your body than to have your whole body thrown into hell.
30 If your right-hand makes you sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell. - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 30

Where it concerns Jesus Christ, the standard is much higher than just the flesh. It is not simply by not having sex that you avoid sin, instead, you are required by Him to not even lust sexually in order not to sin at all. So, I am afraid you have been staring at the wrong standard all this while.

Here's another thing I will say, the idea that some have a high libido and so can't maintain sexual discipline is born of the delusions of men - is not of truth. So abandon that idea that you are somehow unique and need sex more than anyone else out there.

Buddhist monks, don't believe in God at all, yet many of them discipline themselves sexually to the point that most stay pretty much all of their lives without sex. So why can't someone who believes in God do the same in obedience to God? What I am trying to say is you can do it if you commit even more of your time to obey God and damning the flesh in all wise.

Steep:
There is debate about the identity of the Sons of God in Genesis 6.
I believe the Sons of God were angels (fallen) but however, they could easily have possessed the bodies of human male to marry and bare children. The children would be purely human, however, since it is known that the presence of demons in humans causes such humans to have enhanced abilities, the genetic makeup of the children could have being altered so that their children had enhanced human abilities.

This is just my thought anyway

This same thought of yours seems to be shared by many who are into the arts of demonology and angelology, mostly of pagan leanings ... any idea how come?

TenQ:
1. The bible did not explicitly teach about angels or demons. In the course of obediently doing the work of Christ, you will understand better to know that demons are NOT fallen angels.

2. And Daniel 12 spoke of Michael the Price of Israel: an angel! Those who do not have their experience should simply obey Christ in Faith and CHrist will back them up. The experience of Christ backing you up in the course of obedience is your experience alone.

1. What you keep wanting me to believe is that in the course of your claimed obedience to the work of Jesus Christ, you have come upon the knowledge that contradicts even that which is of Jesus Christ, and I keep telling you that Jesus Christ warned of this when He mentioned that even false teachers and false prophets would also state they too do the work of Christ.

Every statement you have made here regarding angels and demons corroborates that written in extra-scriptural sources, some of which I mentioned, - The Book of Enoch & demonoglie - and it all conflicts with much of that stated contextually in scripture.

2. Again, the context of Daniel 12 does not indicate Michael's character as an angel but instead as an individual of great influence over the people of Israel. The idea that Michael is some sort of angel is not a part of the Hebrew script at all, meaning that idea came in much later from other sources.

AmbFmk:
Are you now also saying, Jesus Christ meant, there is a sin that even God doesn't have the power to Forgive. If there is, then God supreme, is less supreme.

Isn't there a huge gap between "not having the power to" and "not wanting to do something at all"?

a. The same God declared in His Old Covenant that those who blaspheme His name will not be forgiven... they should be put to death. Why is it suddenly a case of Him not having the power to forgive when He decrees, in His New Covenant, that those who blaspheme the Spirit of God/Spirit of Truth will not be forgiven?

b. Was God more supreme in His Old Covenant decree regarding blasphemy than in His New Covenant declaration?

A close look at the Gospel teachings regarding these reveals that it isn't an issue of powerlessness but of God simply decreeing that those guilty will not be forgiven by Him.
1. Anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven now and at the time of the resurrection.

31 “So I tell you, people can be forgiven for every sinful thing they do and for every bad thing they say against God. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
32 You can even speak against the Son of Man and be forgiven. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven—not now or in the future. - Matthew 12 vs 31 - 32

2. Anyone guilty of speaking against the Holy Spirit will always be guilty of that sin

28 “I want you to know that people can be forgiven for all the sinful things they do. They can even be forgiven for the bad things they say against God.
29 But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. They will always be guilty of that sin.”
30 Jesus said this because the teachers of the law had accused him of having an evil spirit inside him. - Mark 3 vs 28 - 30

3. Anyone guilty of speaking against the Spirit of God will not be forgiven.

10 “Whoever says something against the Son of Man can be forgiven. But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. - Luke 12 vs 10

@Mathematricks, check out this thread https://www.nairaland.com/7345038/commercial-yam-farming-sacks-growing#116881479

icejoel:
She never loved him

What's love got to do with anything abeg?

Wizzyonyxphoenix:
I'm just really concerned as to know whether or not I should have kept quiet and let him comfortably go through my private messages.
And no, I have absolutely nothing to hide. I just feel it's wrong, especially because he has a tendency to do it again, and because he has no iota of trust for me. I just need some clarification guys, to clear my conscience.

He is your dad, and he got you the phone, and my guess is you are a Nigerian living in your dad's house in Nigeria... LOL... there's not much you can do here, bob!

Emaprince:
Far from it. I can never be. I am not a woman. I am just pointing out facts...but you as a woman have already accepted that the man in OP is evil as painted by the OPs emotional mom

Excuse me... I am telling you that your reactions here are emotional at best. These things are as observed, not as stated.

caprini1:
Dude ,its not my fault you grew up with little or no love ,carry your frustration and big English elsewhere ,Mr i know it all yet hopeless.

I see... so you are one of those who can't seem to think outside of themselves, and so almost always assumes it all has to be about the "me"!

lawrenzooo:
If! That's the keyword.....

Of course! I can do Ifs just like you.

caprini1:
Very simple and apt!....lost both my parents at a very yound age ,was so angry with everything,but i later found out (by myself) say nobody send me . Retracted my self ,became the best i can be ,for ME....nobody send anybody .OP should move on name change or not.

One of the reasons I think Nigerians are mostly dull is that they can't seem to understand what it means to put themselves in the shoes of another, even for a moment.

I really hope it isn't the case that you equate losing one's parents to unforeseen circumstances to being rejected or abandoned by a parent.

Emaprince:
women are the same in emotional situations

Yet, the one fuming and emotional in this situation is you, a man?

lawrenzooo:
Nah it's not same! Most men have the tendency of abandoning responsibilities when love goes sour particularly if they have moved on with another partner.

If Op is an adult and the brother a kid since his just starting school it means op at least for the most part of his childhood and teenage years had his father around. So the mom should allow him make his own decision whether he wants a change of surname or not.

If OP is minor then the mother can change names for her children. When OP becomes an adult, OP can change the name back if he/she chooses.

Shutupthere:
1. If you refer to the breath of God as a Spirit entity I won’t argue coz in retrospect anything that comes from God is a force that is powered by spirit entities ( I could be wrong ) just using logic here. But back to the matter in question the breath of life powered the man to be alive and aware .....That life force once taken from man, he dies and the spirit goes down to wait for eternal judgement.

2. When Jesus died He went down to be judged as expected by spiritual law but then He being God conquered death and over powered the enemy by the reason of His innocent blood being shed. Once man dies , it’s not the end of him (that was the premise of our discussion)... it is the body that dies and goes to dust not the main content (spirit) . Man never ceases to exist wether he knew the gospel of Christ or not ... There are different ways to judge man by eternal laws wether the man heard of Christ or not ...

Let's not jump the gun here as we have yet to clearly understand God's very own Word in this from the beginning of even man.

1. Again, according to Genesis, God formed man(mind, body, and soul), in his completeness, from the clay(no spiritual element to clay) of the earth. And then God breathed the breath of life into man's(mind, body, and soul) nose.

6 So water[a] came up from the earth and spread over the ground.
7 Then the Lord God took dust from the ground and made a man. He breathed the breath of life into the man’s nose, and the man became a living thing. - Genesis 2 vs 6 - 7

We confirm that indeed the very same Spirit God installed in plants and animals alike when He, God, created them.

21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth, birds, livestock, beasts, all swarming creatures that swarm on the earth, and all mankind.
22 Everything on the dry land in whose nostrils was the breath of life died.
23 He blotted out every living thing that was on the face of the ground, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens. They were blotted out from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those who were with him in the ark. - Genesis 7 vs 21 - 23

According to God Himself, His Spirit, the breath of Life He installed in man -- will not go on forever with man meaning that once man's time on earth is over, that Spirit will return to God.

1. When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them,
2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose.
3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in[a] man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.”
4 The Nephilim[b] were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. - Genesis 6 vs 1 - 4

Now, God also confirmed in Genesis 3 that not only was man never created an eternal being from his beginning, but also that after death what awaited man was for him to perish in the grave... cease to exist .i.e. become dust again.

19 You will work hard for your food, until your face is covered with sweat. You will work hard until the day you die, and then you will become dust again. I used dust to make you, and when you die, you will become dust again.”
20 Adam named his wife Eve.[d] He gave her this name because Eve would be the mother of everyone who ever lived.
21 The Lord God used animal skins and made some clothes for the man and his wife. Then he put the clothes on them.
22 The Lord God said, “Look, the man has become like us—he knows about good and evil. And now the man might take the fruit from the tree of life. If the man eats that fruit, he will live forever.” - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22

So, how can a man who has already been judged and condemned by God to perish in the grave(cease to exist) go on then to wait for an eternal judgment when he has already been marked for erasure from existence by the same God?

Do plants and animals continue to exist until eternity after they are dead?

2. Where in the Gospels did Jesus Christ in fact tell you any of what you claim here? And when you say a man never ceases, are you suggesting then that God lied in His proclamations in Genesis?

According to Jesus Christ, only those men who believe in Him, and have eternal life as a result of their belief, will not perish. i.e. cease to exist in the grave - John 3 vs 16 - 21. So are you also insinuating that Jesus Christ also lied?

caprini1:
Let the effort to see the father,be made first,some women shield children away from their fathers unnecessary and suffer for nothing..

OP said nothing about being shielded from his/her father in this so why assume it the case? How do you know the effort hasn't already been made for the OP to have concluded that the father has likely erased all memories of them from his mind?

dattaswami1:
Human incarnation results when unimaginable God merges with imaginable devoted soul selected by God for the sake of some important work to be done in the world for the welfare of the souls. The process of the merge of unimaginable item with an imaginable item is also unimaginable. Only the process between two imaginable items existing in this imaginable creation is imaginable.
For example, gold and copper are imaginable items. Both these metals merge homogenously to form a solid solution, which looks like one item (gold), but when viewed through microscope, both metals appear as different atoms. ...

Yet more mindless drivels! Is this all one can expect? If yes, maybe time to disengage and find better things to do with one's life abeg.

Das1mama:
Bro, may God forbid me to Argue with the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Believe it or not, you or anyone can never stop the progress of the Gospel!!!

None of what you claimed is stated in any of the 4 Gospels though, so how can any of it be a part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ? .

Das1mama:
1. before asking a question, u need a proper understanding. When Christ died on the cross, why did he descended into hell?
2, He descended into hell to preach the Gospel, and for as many that believed are now in Abraham's Bosom waiting for the last Trump.

1, Where did you read that Jesus Christ descended to hell?

2. Who told you he preached "The Gospel" in Hell?

Why would Abraham's bosom, a place described as belonging to those of the Old Law of Moses, the people of Israel, be for those who believe instead in Jesus Christ?

Allahmuzayaf:
I want to get to know you better,let's start from there.
Is that not a straight response?

I see you are only in search of attention... good luck!

Allahmuzayaf:
Because I want to get to know you better,If that's too stressful for you we could work a different way,what do you think?

Again, what do you need me to visit you for? I assume you are educated so please try to provide an educated response that is straight to the point.

Emaprince:
men and women are not the same. Women let emotions control them hence they act the same in this kind of situation. Responsibility and accountability will be thrown out the window.

Again, you are not making any sense at all. Are all men the same? Why would you then assume all women to be the same? That is braindead thinking right there.

Grandmeister:
Well you’re not the Op and the culture isn’t rubbish to him/her or else the op wouldn’t be struggling with it. Again no amount of grand standing by an anonymous identity online will change culture and tradition
Water will always find its course.

Again, Culture, as far as I am concerned, means nothing to me. So, stop pretending it should to OP or me.

Like water, you find it most everywhere you go and so it has no meaning except for the one you pretend to give it where you find it.

Allahmuzayaf:
Kobojunkie when are you going to pay me a visit?
Lol

What for?

Grandmeister:
If I was deceiving myself the young lad/girl wouldn’t have come online to ask these. I didn’t make the rules, being a bastard is a serious stigma and no amount of wokeness will change that fact.

Look, I don't follow rules made by mere men, especially those who never consulted with me beforehand, so, your traditional/cultural leanings make no sense to me in this.

OP came online to ask questions regarding something and anyone can do that. Trying to play the culture/tradition card when this cuts across cultures and traditions, is ridiculous if you ask me. There are cultures out there where children are their mothers when abandoned by their fathers by default. There are cultures out there where kids bear both the name of father and mother, etc. So to insist your own cultural norms are it... is rubbish to me.

Emaprince:
It paints the true picture of a womans nature. And will help gullible people reckon that Ops mom might be the cause of the break up...and expectedly told the kids all kinds of lies about their dad just so she can turn them against him.

You are not making any sense at all... are all men exactly the same or something?

tydi:
1. Twice to my third experiences sums up the most cases I have seen and witness. I have seen some hardworking women even with the economic woes of the country decided to single handledly cater of her kids not bringing the father into the pictures. And how do you mean a father been a threat to his children . Even a mad person on the street does no harm to his/her offspring more or less a caring father.

2. About the father erasing all the Memories of his kids and family, if only the woman will truly tell her children how many times or efforts the man has tried been in their life and been shut out before he took his last stand .

You never can tell where the shoe pains if you ain't the one wearing it.

1. I can assure you that in the country called Nigeria, those who you claim to have experience do not make up even the meaningful minority as far as women are concerned. That idea of yours does not work at all considering we are talking of a country where the vast majority still live believing society norms are to be maintained and valued.

2. The OP is the one informing you of this, not the woman. The OP is the child and OP didn't indicate that this information was obtained from the mother, so it is likely it was from direct experience with the father in question.

Emaprince:
It is in this Nairaland that a lady confessed to cheating on her hubby which broke their marriage.. later the man wants her bank. But she created a new thread claiming the man initiated the break up and now wants her back. She forgot where she excitedly bragged about getting it outside from other men on this site. I'm sure if they had a baby together and the man didn't want to get back with her, she will feed the kid with all manner of lies. Only a FOOL believes what comes out the mouth of a woman...especially in emotional situations

What has this story to do with this topic abeg?

Grandmeister:
1. If the mother was the cheat and the children’s paternity are in doubt then they can change their names (when they want to).
2. If the bride price was not returned then they are still assumed to be the man’s children. There’s a real risk of being labelled bastards if they change their name without due consultation, to you it may seem puerile but it isn’t in our society.

1. In doubt or established?
2. If they are assumed to be the man's yet the man had mentally and physically abandoned them, of what use is this shackle on the children?

A real risk of being labeled bastards? What the bloody heck does that mean? Society? What society? How many people's fathers are famous that society even cares about or knows where they are from or whose they belong? Stop deceiving yourself with these all but meaningless ideas abeg!