₦airaland Forum

Ecomog6:
■ I have same sentiment as the points you noted but don't insult Burna boy.thats his opinion and besides, you can't ever call him useless because he is better than you 1 trillion times. I have always emphasize that Governors are the main problem of Nigeria.

The people, not the governors, are the major problem in Nigeria. They have been the problem since independence. They are not civically educated and so exist as zombies where they ought to be the powers/leaders guiding the direction of their own nation.

chigo32:
■ Keep supporting evil. Since independence till now what has Nigeria achieved, absolutely nothing. We are yet to see quality education, good roads, good healthcare, job opportunities, etc. many talents are wasting away because the government have not given them room to strives, what has the government had done for us, nothing. I want to ask you this question please answer it, what really make Nigeria a nation?

Nigeria is a nation. What is missing is the will of the people to govern themselves. That is what is missing in this nation. And from the history of the Nation since 1960, we are sure of one thing. Switching from one governmental system— regional, unified, sudo-democratic, military, and now democratic— to the other has not been able to awaken that will in the people; it hasn't made a difference in that area at all.

RodgersAkpafu:
■ true sha.... and a dummy masses who buy into an ethnic supremacy mentality

Those dummy masses are the POWER in that country but they don't realize it since the vast majority are not civically educated at all. We came from a military government system to a democratic one without receiving education about how things are completely different in this new one. Therein lies the problem.

The average Nigerian goes around shouting, "Our leaders...our leaders," not realizing that in a democracy, the leaders are the people while those to whom the people hand their mandates are simply elected public servants.

RodgersAkpafu:
■ so when the breakup comes and the sh@tholes that come out of the former Nigerian state are still shames and failures, who/what will now be the next to blame? dumb negroes

The people are to blame for their own decisions; they will still be to blame because they chart about their future, destiny, and all.

MajorOvakporaye:
I keep saying it that Nigeria is not a nation and can never be a nation. Nigeria does not possess any of the features of a nation which are common religion, common language, common culture, common historical background, etc.
Nigeria is an artificial entity created by Britain for selfish economic reasons. But Nigerian politicians keep fooling the gullible
people with the fake name 'NATION' just to plunder, steal and distort the truth. How can people who don't have same political ideology, language, religion, culture, historical background, etc be called a nation? Mark my words. People who usually show to be the most patriotic citizens of Nigeria are the worse set of tribalists and ethnocentric idiots.

Even the United States does not have many of what you pretend a Nation is meant to have there.

BucketHat:
First off,nah leadership be our problem oooooo! For me oh,I nor support make we go our separate ways at all because we need each other.
All of us deh gifted & unique for our own different ways. Our major problem nah politicians & religious leaders.
Lóbátán!!!!!!

You have it upside-down like the majority of Nigerians always looking for a savior. Did you know that in a democracy, the leaders are the people, not those public servants elected by the leaders(the people)? 🤔

Olamideayomide:
Nigeria is a geographical area because we don't have any trait of country as a NATION

It seems that way because of the docility of the people of Nigeria towards the governance of their selves and nothing more.

Kaczynski:
■Go protest in France if you get mind

Your kind no dey reason well at all, na im be the problem.

Kaczynski:
Dey for do am for France make BAT send down bullets on their useless arse

France where your BAT went to beg for his plane to negotiate, possibly in their courts, the release of properties that are above the 74 million dollar debt owed the Chinese company?

Mystic216:
Why New York Why not here in Nigeria

The UNGA will be taking place at that time. So, Nigerians in NY believe it a good idea to take the protest there. A great idea, by the way! The 50 people who were killed during the #EndBadGovernance protest were murdered by their own government, against UN established Universal Declaration of Human Rights which Nigeria happens to be a signee on. An investigation into the deaths and prosecution of all of the deaths is necessary and has yet to be carried out by your Government. Also, all those who were kidnapped and imprisoned for protesting should be released and your Government penalized for those violations.

Ndimkpurummiri:
It stated that the expected lockdown would commence from August 28 to September 26, 2024, explaining further that federal offices, excluding privately owned businesses in the five States of the region, Abia, Enugu, Ebonyi, Anambra and Imo will be shut out of operations.
The group in the statement queried the continuous incarceration of Mazi Nnamdi Kanu by the Nigerian government, and demands his immediate release unconditionally including other Biafrans and demilitarisation of the South-East region.
It stated, “The Biafra government in diaspora has just approved the lockdown of Nigeria institutions in some parts of Biafraland following the continued killings of innocent citizens, invasion and abduction of religious worshippers within its territory.
“We have decided to lockdown all federal institutions exclusively, in this region for 30 days, and demanding total withdrawal of all security forces from the territory.
“We also demand the release of Mazi Nnamdi Kanu and all other Biafrans that are being detained in various locations in the country,” it stated.
The group, however, bemoaned the recent killing of 27 innocent southeasterners in Enugu allegedly tagged criminals by the security forces.

Shut it down in what way? These boys are playing bad games with the lives and living of ordinary citizens.

Kushites:
✓ Of course THE ELITE directed the entire process!!
Here's a video from 13 years ago where the President of Sudan and South Sudan are literally standing together at a podium, after they agreed to a referendum in South Sudan to vote for secession, which was 98% in favour of, due to the millions of people slaughtered in the war!
It was all very civilised, ie the break up, with the ELITE at the very helm of the process!
Start at 1:10 to save data!

A referendum is a decision by the Elites? Something tells me you like to inhale your own fumes! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Difrent:
He has rights to his own thoughts and actions, he shouldn't be forced to take his mothers political views ....

It is hard to hold those if your own family directly benefits from the corruption that is the establishment.

Kushites:
■ I never said secession cannot happen in Nigeria. I said it can only happen by ELITE CONSENSUS. Sudan broke up into two nations by ELITE consensus following a bloody civil war in which over 2.5 million lives were lost.The unity of the country became untenable in the eyes of the ELITE, and they agreed to part ways. A civil war IS NOT about to break out in Nigeria. We've been there, done that, and survived intact. So forget about Nigerian breaking up.

Elites ke? I have Sudanese friends here and none of them have ever suggested the Elites played any part in the splitting of their country. You are the first person who has ever offered up such an explanation. You are free to hold that opinion though.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Kushites:
■ YOU are the one exaggerating these sentiments. Blowing them out of all proportion. 100,000 people protesting in Kano is about enough to fill up the National stadium in Abuja. Hardly 230 million Nigerians.
Secondly, Nigeria is far from being the only country where people fantasize about seceding. But it's just that. HOT AIR. FANTASY. Loose talk.
Here is a list of secessionist groups around the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_North_America
There are literally HUNDREDS of them. They are in France, Holland, Denmark, Australia, Indonesia, Trinidad, New Zealand, Canada, Mexico, Haiti and more. In America there are at least 15 active secessionist groups. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_North_America#United_States In fact we are LEARNERS in Nigeria with regard to separatist sentiments. So secessionist sentiments are a very common phenomenon. Less than 1% of them achieve secession, and that's a generous figure. Probably more like 0.00001%. Here's a secret: No country ''breaks up'' unless its ELITE decide it's no longer in their interest to remain a single political unit. It doesn't happen by people shouting on the street, abusing the president online, doing 'sit at home', and all that nonsense. SO LONG AS THE ELITE are fine with Nigeria being NIGERIA, you can FORGET about Nigeria breaking up. If you try to force it, they will send in the army to crush you. The ELITE control the forces of coercion, NOT you or the masses on the street. The only sign you need that the ELITE have ZERO interest in Nigeria splintering is that NOT ONE MOTION FOR SECESSION has been brought before the National Assembly since the return to democracy in 1999.
NOTHING FROM THE SOUTH EAST. So called 'secessionist region'. Why? Because the Igbo ELITE are HAPPY TO BE IN NIGERIA. They KNOW they make more money selling to the NIGERIAN market of 230 million than they will ever make selling to 30 odd million Igbos in a 'Biafra'. Go and ask the Igbo big shots like INNOSON or Chief Allen Onyema , the Air Peace of CEO if they want Biafra. They will KICK you out of their office. I've seen their interviews. They are all Nigerian PATRIOTS. NATIONALISTS. If YOU were in their shoes, and owned a business that spanned or served the entire nation, you would not entertain any idea of Nigeria ''dividing''. So if I were you, I will stop wasting my years fantasizing about something that won't happen. You are a NIgerian.

No point dragging this issue further than we already have. The fact is some people wish for separation; the current president happens to be one of them and yes, countries can and do break up for different reasons. We recently saw Sudan do it less than 20 years ago. So, it would be daft/unintelligent to conclude without concrete evidence that it can never happen in the Nigerian case.

Smartcitizen:
∆ 💯 Percent correct!
Most times I sincerely wonder how we can get out of these quagmire, knowing fully well that most of our people are too emotionally attached to most politicians for no reason. May God help us.

There is need for widespread civic education. If democracy and not military is what Nigerians really want, there is no alternative to that.

tiwasiaife:
■ You are nothing but what Burna Boy just described. Collateral damage. If all the loans and crude oil can't fix that road in your place you think it's burnas tax that will fix it? National Assembly and Executive cum judiciary have finished Nigeria with Salary, allowances and corruption QED

you conveniently ignore the man's message only to spew what amounts to an emotional rant.

Do you know why Nigerians, the moment they land in a developed country, become advocates for good governance and stand up for their rights? Part of it has to do with the fact that they pay taxes and so feel it is in their interest to voice their opinion and ensure there money is spent well.

If your Nigerian celebrities and workers for instance paid taxes in Nigeria, do you think they would all be as quiet as they have been all this while? Before you respond, try to engage your brain and bypass your emotion center first.

Newsreel24:
■ Giving further clarification, Shuaibu ( SAN) revealed that the Kaduna State Government did not engage Femi Falana SAN or any other legal practitioner to prosecute former Governor Malam Nasir El-Rufai or his associates, contrary to MURIC's claims.
The statement also declared that MURIC failed to provide a charge number or the name of the court where the trial is allegedly ongoing. Instead, the case in question is a fundamental rights enforcement matter initiated by El-Rufai himself, with Kaduna State as a respondent alongside the House of Assembly.
The government expressed disappointment that MURIC has resorted to "tribal inclinations and discrimination," deviating from its original aim of advocating for Muslim rights in Nigeria.
The statement accused MURIC of being hijacked by individuals with self-serving interests, turning the organization into a "regional and ethnic biased platform."
The government emphasized that the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria prohibits discrimination based on gender, religion, tribe, or region. It therefore found it ironic that MURIC criticized the current government for hiring a Yoruba lawyer from the Southwest while failing to do so during El-Rufai's tenure.

He should not have responded to MURIC at all.

Smartcitizen:
God bless you. I can't even imagine how you are educating people who APC people has paid for their brain.

The vast majority of Nigerians are not civically educated and that explains why many of them so willingly sell off their mandate for a pittance and call for politicians to debase those who do not see things according to how their taskmasters deem they ought to be.😑

oyeb15:
↪Nigeria can exist together. It's just about good leadership. Even d smallest unit of d society called family has failed to prosper due to bad leadership not to talk of region.

Who are the leaders in a democracy?

Lifestone:
■ He was arrested under a law. Criminal defamation is a crime in Nigeria not just a civil matter.

Section 373 which is stated does not prescribe an arrest before the courts have prescribed judgment on the matter.🤔
https://jurist.ng/criminal_code_act/sec-373

Kushites:
■ That some miscreants raised Russian flags in the north does not mean they want Nigeria to break up.
■ Also, public demonstrations in which less than 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the country are in the streets are no indication that Nigerians want the country to break up. The recent protests were not about people clamouring for the break up of Nigeria.
They just wanted the rise in living costs addressed.
■ Your discussions with a few people in Ikorodu donkey years ago does not prove a national desire to dismember the federation.

They are not miscreants but Nigerians. You may not agree with their views but they are Nigerians and their views matter just as yours does. Even the views of the Arewa groups up north equally matter.

2. The number that was on the streets in Kano alone was more than that. Let's try to be honest abeg! All of Kano combined was well over 100,000 during the protests, and there is video from many of the different locations to show this. So why do you feel that diminishing the facts would somehow make the issue go away?

3. It was not a discussion but a sort of tradition back then. To this day, we have those who clamor for Yoruba Nation. Even the man who is president today — Tinubu — is on record confessing, back in 1999, that he too did not believe in one Nigeria. Do you think that has changed? When he was asked about it before his election, he said it could wait until after he has had his turn So, I am not certain why you feel that everyone must see this the way you do or else be tagged irrelevant. There are real voices, recognized in all regions, calling for the breaking of Nigeria. Ignoring them will not make them go away.

Found this today and was hoping it could maybe help better explain where Nigeria is today and the choices before us.
https://www.youtube.com/live/vlqSAQB5d-s?si=6hkKyCxfUOSflrbP

Kushites:
■But where is the 'peace and prosperity' in the smaller countries around you? The man on the street is NOT calling for the break up of Nigeria. It is IPOB thugs greedy to steal the Niger Delta oil in the guise of 'Biafran freedom' that are calling for the break up of Nigeria.

You aren't listening to them or you haven't been paying attention at all, it seems!

Many on the streets, particularly the older crowd, have dreamed of this break-up. Growing up in Ikorodu in the 80s, many believed it was sure to happen. Ikorodu is not in the SE. During the recent protests, we saw people raising flags of another country while trampling the Nigerian flag. Now, more than ever, many in all regions are pretty much sure a breakup is coming. So, this isn't one region trying to break things up but people in all regions clamoring for a break-up!

Guestlander:
■You can always get in touch with those who arrested him.

Arrests are not issued in such cases as the one you described. Yes, he spoke his mind, so it is up to the other to decide whether to sue him for it or not. And suits are handled in courts not with police arrests.

Kushites:
■ Nah...In today's world, SIZE matters. Nigeria is about to join BRICS. Her president is always invited for G20 meetings, to speak for Africa. When you destroy Nigeria, all that is GONE. You will become less important than Sierra Leone. Even Togo will be ordering you around in ECOWAS. From grace to smithereens. It's simply not an optios. The smaller countries like South Sudan and Liberia have not turned into El Dorado because they are small, and neither will your tiny countries. You will massively miss the days of NIGERIA. Don't take this giant for granted.

I am not concerned about any of those things at all. And I suspect a lot of Nigerians clamoring for division are equally not concerned either. All that you point out are just meaningless ideas to the average man on the streets of Nigeria hoping the hell that is Nigeria will come to an end. Such things only matter to those who are enjoying life and country something the vast majority of Nigerians can only dream of. So, even if peace and prosperity can be found in a tiny nation, many will take that instead of all of the big dreams you seem lured by.

Guestlander:
■ Was he just speaking his mind when he said Zulum's son was arrested for murder in India?

I don't understand. Are you suggesting he was arrested as a result of that?

Kushites:
■ Meaning 300 countries! It would be an absolute nightmare. Utter chaos. The most sensible thing is to maintain this nation and strive to make it 'a more perfect union', as the Americans would say., We have passed through teething stages of nation building, fought a civil war, had the coups etc etc, and now have been a civilian democracy for nearly 30 yrs. If we throw all that away, and break up, the new nations will have to go through THEIR cycle of teething, and it could end up in coups, civil wars, and far weaker institutions than we currently have, since it takes decades to build up sturdy national institutions like the judiciary, military, national ethos etc.

I wouldn't write it off because we have yet to try that at all.

Throwback:
■ I have been speaking my mind, yet no one has arrested me. I earn a legitimate living, and I do not canvass for any form of insurrection or anarchy. Let his mind now defend him when he faces the law. Make he sha no stammer.

But you wish for someone else to be arrested for doing the same thing, abi? Nonsense!

Kushites:
■ This a very important point, and speaks to the fact that Nigeria has over 300 ethnic groups. If Nigeria breaks up say into 5 countries, that means on average each country will have 60 ethnic groups. Tell me what will change. It will still be the same story of one or two majority groups dominating, and the smaller groups feeling 'marginalised'. It will be the same story. We will simply have 5 'NIGERIAS' instead of 1. Meaning even MORE instability.

Exactly! I have said it several times, if indeed dividing Nigeria up is the way to resolve the problem then the country would need to be divided up into a region for each ethnic group to make that happen. 🤔