₦airaland Forum

andrewbaba44:
Liverpool are the favorites

Respect to the epl champions

I support mancity and I hope they win it

I always knew with Marco Bielsa Leeds were always going to come to the EPL very well prepared.

Omanambala:
And I congratulate and applaud you for wishing our Nigerian bred talents the worst in their careers....

Just the same way l have been wishing Etebo, Ighalo, Iwobi, Ndidi, Obagoal, Musa, Mikel, Azeez, Awoniyi, etc, etc.

You are very wise and show your intelligence with your objective and balanced view.

realpoacher:
Will you or Would you make this same excuse for K. Nwakali or Iwobi when they play poorly too?

First of all Iwobi has shown good quality consistency in the last 5 consecutive seasons in the EPL arguably the best league in the World according Bleachereprot . What has Nwakali done in the past 5 years

It is an INSULT to compare Nwakali to Iwobi.

kellycute:
when you are tire of dwelling in the past, let us know. According to the theory of "here and now", nwakali is on the rise with huesca at LA liga. We are waiting to see if he is going to shut you up by living up to expectation but as for fraunomah, we simply give up cos he is absolutely not good enough at the moment

I would not call it on the rise.

He made little or no contribution to the promotion of Huesca to La Liga, so there is no rise an individual player.

Second thing the Segunda División is poor quality and not a good benchmark for quality. He has done nothing beyond being mediocre for the past give years.

Looking at the team composition they look like immediate relegation material.

Eberechi Eze has entered EPL debut

realpoacher:
On a strictly football scale...


What is Fulham's level compared to Huesca?

If you do the homework l will answer the question comprehensively.

Make a comparison of the team composition of Huesca and Fulham FC.

Players to players by pedigree, value and ratings.

elunico:
With all the hypes you have accorded the lad, one would expect that he hits the ground running almost immediately.

Mind you, I saw some of his games in the Championship and he never met up to the valuation you guys put on him.

This wasn't the Onomah I've known from Tottenham and the English U-20s.

You use the description " hype " can you expand.

Because thats the first problem.

You cannot describe they hype given to KC, Osimhen and Nwakali to any kind of description placed on Tega Onomah.

His team got flogged today by a much better resurgent Arsenal under Mikel Arteta.

I thought his team including himself gave a very good account of themselves in the first half in their first game back in the EPL.

Second half they lost it but they never resorted to do or die, kick and rush tactics. They played with their limitations. They lack good quality proven forward players to bring the game to Arsenal.

I am looking forward to their next games.

Meanwhile l am excited about Southampton again Crystal Palace two teams that are more or less on the same level.

And yes my eyes will be on Eberechi to see how he makes the step up today.

I am expecting a goal from him he will have room to express himself today.

Omanambala:
I never rate borough boy...they are bunch of wannabe footballers! No ffucking talent.

I commend you for your blatant bigoted prejudice.

Thankfully your opinion has no influence whatsoever.

jihday:
You don start again

To underpin my response to somebody else.

If Nwakali struggled to get into a Porto B team, why would he then walk into a much more competitive Fulham first team and why will he even make the Fulham B team that's the U23.

Without prejudice.

BascoVanVeli:
Like I said to somebody no matter what Onomah can never bench the Anguissa I watched playing with chukwueze. Top 5 midfielder in the league last season

Well your " No matter What" has already been proven to be TOTALLY WRONG.

Tega started and he did not.

This is the EPL it's not about aimlessly dribbling without end product and it is also about work rate to defend and close down.

benji93:
Fulham is playing a style for which they don't have enough quality to effect, at least in the premier league .

Absolutely playing good quality technical football may look very pleasing to the eye.

Without real quality forward players, you are going to struggle. And that is Fulham they absolutely need at least 2/3 more proven quality forward players .

Burnley and Sheffield United have found a way to battle and grind out results from average players.

Look at the quality on the Arsenal bench, Fulham are totally outclassed.

TheSuperNerd:
Truly, no one hates the lad. But I am sure most hate the silly hypes on the lad and the fact he was used to downgrade an Nwakali who is even far more composed on the ball compared to Onomah.

Infact, I expect us to land him so he adds some options to our team's midfield but this dude cannot be starting for us. He will be a squad member giving us some depth in options. That's all!

Wow !!! you are comparing Nwakali to Tega Onomah. That is like darkness to light.

Nwakali will not make the academy team talk less of the first team.

ChrisKels:
I will still maintain my stance, Fulham spends money foolishly, they keep buying players they don't need, this is a new season but still same old Fulham.

About, Onomah; the boy is OK but not good enough for a top flight side, if Fulham rests their creativity on his shoulder, they are sure going back where they came from.

Tega plays more box to box in general.

Check out the number of interceptions and tackles he makes, and then turns the play from defence to attack.

Unfortunately Fulham have just one quality striker and that is Mitrovic recovering from injury. So their game plan is about containment not out and out attack.

Tega has been a key player for Fulham in this game undoubtedly. But they are now in the latter stages of the game and are getting tired after being pulled left and right by Arsenal.

I NEVER expected Fulham to win this game not even get a draw. Just wanted them to play good quality football and not get slaughtered.

lloydtruth:
That's the role of the same Onomah that you are calling a baller. So far the guy hasn't been impressive, looks lazy and lacks good positioning.

You are playing a resurgent Arsenal with arguably the best Striker in the EPL Aubmeyang and you want to be dribbling around and loosing possession.

Fulham are loosing 3-0 not unexpected but they are in damage limitation.

Midfielders are more concerned with containing the attacks of Arsenal it's their first game in the EPL.

Christology:
iheanacho to Fulham wouldn't be a bad move for me.. the club lacks the presence of a striker.

He is not good enough and they would not waist money on a liability.

tbaba1234:
I disagree on Iheanacho.

He scored 5 goals and provided 3 assists. That is 8 goal contributions in 20 games. Remember, he hardly played 90 minutes in any game and sometimes played as a support striker.

Overall, he had 10 goals and 4 Assists in 26.

Good return after a tough start.

He deserves a place in the national team.

The Benchmark is the EPL not cup games against sometimes very low quality opposition it gives a false impression.

You don't have a right to play you earn the right to play by what you do in training and games, he has NEVER done enough.

He does not deserve a place in the SE.

Karlovich:
its part of the game, he's still a good player though

It depends on what is good.

But he spends way too much time being injured.

Edopesin:
Josh Onomah starts for Fulham

Gosh the EPL is back

Tega na jaguda, Warri no deh carry last.

Although I expect Fulham too loose, the new left back for Fulham is a player that has an interesting story "Jedi"

Meanwhile l will be watching Fulham and Arsenal with a keen eye to see our boys potential and existing.

I remember years ago Fulham football academy was called the Nigerians there were so many Nigerian boys there then.

sheyishemba:
To crown what you've just said
No one has a cemented spot in SE right now
There is competition for every spot
Ndidi our best player is not even safe
Agu and Lesley are coming up.
Uzoho too
The team is getting better and better.

Once the arrival of Tega, Ovie, Tosin and Eze then matters will change.

Edopesin:
Some people don't understand the pressure on him with that transfer fee, Nobody will give him time to get used to Seria A and fans that are easily swayed by their emotions want instant impact

He has done well enough to be praised but sure his performance this season is what matters

Thank you very much 100% correct.

Big money big expectations this is the reality of football.

Philosopher1979:
Any foreign born player should join the Nigerian team now or it may be too late. In the next 2 to 5 years even foreign borns will find it difficult for 2 reasons

1. Our grassroot football is working and players from our youth team and academies are getting better. Who knows where samdon tijani, olakunle olusegun, hillary gong, akinkunmi amoo e.t.c will be a few years from now.

2. The number of foreign born pkayers are many and so they may be down the pecking order even among their foreign born.

Emmanuel Dessers is lucky he took his chance. The idea that foreign borns are better is overrated and maybe a thing of the past. Barcelona has an academy in lagos there is nff futures u15 and so one great player can emerge at anytime.

You make a devious dichotomy between players born in Nigeria and brought up in Nigeria with players brought up and or born abroad.

But you do it like there is a HOSTILE CONTENTION between them, is that your perception

There is not one EPL academy that doesn't have a good number of Nigerian origin players. And that is from age 5/6 onwards.

There are some EPL academies that have up to 40 Nigeria origin players.

I am at this early stage seeing the next set of England U15-17 players and i was looking at players from U12. Some have already got personal endorsements from sports manufacturing companies. And yes there are Nigerians among them.

So you should STOP this regressive negative bias and prejudice, you are creating another form of TRIBALISM.

Move out of the dark ages into the light.

Danielnino00:
The transfer fee also matters...plus the players's performance in his previous club..

Iheanacho,Success and Ndidi didn't play much for the super eagles before they moved to England...

Iheanacho is classed as home grown via youth set up as well as outstanding talent.

Ndidi most outstanding player in Belguim league.

Success l just don't know, but look deeper into the ownership of Watford and his former team by the one family. And there is room to manuveur.

sheyishemba:
Great talent crazy passes and mad link up plays .....he doesn't score much but his composure and keeping the ball is always top notch ...I heard some club even bidded for him this summer ...and this is his first season for reading.

I have been watching Sone Aluko to see if he can still cut it.

tbaba1234:
Nwakali has not done enough for super eagles talk.

Iheanacho had a good season last year after a difficult start.

He has been having an abysmal start if the truth must be told. No window dressing.

5 goals in EPL after 20 games in the 2019/20 an improvement on 2018 /19 season where he scored 1 goal after 30 games.

But in the general scheme of things very poor for a £25 million striker.

It's a reflection of a lack of quality strikers in the SE that's why KC is still in consideration.

Because outside of Ighalo and Osimhen we don't have any quality strikers.

BascoVanVeli:
They should go and sit down. There is absolutely nothing to talk about here. Just like they didn't jump off a bridge when he scored back to back hattricks they should also remain mentally stable when he doesn't score.

I know many will jump to thier antagonistic views with my comments.

I said before that pre season games are just warm up games that nobody takes overly serious. Particularly with opposition from the 4 tier of Italian football.

The real test as I said months ago will be when he plays in a team. Where he Victor is not the focus and where the game plan is no longer centred on him alone.

Seria A is not French league.

Italian league is tactically and technically superior to the French league, pace alone will not be enough, he is going to have to learn quick improve and adapt his game.

I have not given Victor all these premature over stated accolades.

My view is if he can score 10/12 goals he would have done well enough. But the expectations of the huge transfer fee may require a lot more from the fans and the coaching staff.

TheSuperNerd:
Listen mister. If you won't stay within the bounds of the initial discussion, then you can carry on talking to yourself. You always have loads of irrelevant yammerings muddled up with Gobbledygooks to spill. Have a nice day.

EVASION It's apparently obvious for once YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.

What was the subject matter? the Segunda División is very poor in all respects and the quality of players very poor.

My proposition was very clear, a club earning promotion from a poor 2nd tier league does not automatically mean the team has become higher quality.

To be objective and without prejudice a comparison has to be made.

La Liga is the best league in the World arguably.
So let's compare the Segunda División to the Championship. To ascertain that supposed progressive quality.

I have given two comparative units of measurement to make an objective deduction upon.

1. A comparison of the entire Segunda División transfer expenditure to just the expenditure of Fulham FC.

2. Comparison of mid table Stoke FC. Showing just one team in the Segunda División that can match just 25% of the quality of players in their squads in a like for like comparison, player to player.

That should end the discussion.

Karlovich:
Noah Bazee currently injured, should commence training with his team next week

Every time l hear about this player the word injury is not far from the discussion.

jargooflife912:
Once the transfer fee is over 10M he will granted work permit

Work permit rules are not tied to cost but appearances with national team and FIFA national team rating.

TheSuperNerd:
Thank you. With the bolded, you have beautifully shut down the discussion. The context and bounds of the discussion was if Cadiz still boast the same poor quality you saw few years ago. Well, for a team that just got promoted from the Segunda (La Liga 2) that play more of technical football rather than the Kick-and-rush style of the Championship... then that says a lot. Danke!

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You have EVADED the question completely and started a new narrative to suit your own narrative. You just cannot help yourself.

Everything you are saying is subjective and perceptive and concludes with the assumptive.

Which football style is better and more effective is open to debate. Even if my personal preference is for technical football. I have seen Mourinho use kick and rush with the long ball to beat Barcelona and Liverpool in teams he has managed. BUT THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION.

If a league is poor quality and a team wins promotion to La Liga. The team does not automatically therefore become quality.

I asked you to make a comparison of the team composition of Stoke City FC. A mid table Championship team and make a comparison of Huesca team. Player to players, quality players, the actual transfer expenditure cost of players.

We can then have an idea of the quality of the league. It's the quality of players in a league that determine it's quality not just the name.

Please don't deviate, it's a very a simplistic comparison.

I once asked that someone to compare the players transfer expenditure made by just Fulham FC and compare it to the entire a Segunda División expenditure on players transfers coming into the league.

These are very objective based units of measurement that bring us to a more substantive appreciation as opposed to an assumptive emotive led inference

FieldMarshall06:
Ok, thanks. Someone who had facts had settled the matter. Now, we know that Ezugwu is better protected. Thanks bro.

Can you kindly repeat the FACTS that have underpinned your conclusion.

Please educate me, it's not sufficient to just say " someone who had facts" That's very superficial and lacking in substance.

FieldMarshall06:
Both are Nigerian products and we are proud of them. So, its a win win for us.

But please o, Ezugwu and Ara MRAPs, which has better protection. Someone should please enlighten us with facts, not opinion or guesses.

I don't have facts but circumstantial facts to underpin my opinion.

For Pro Force to participate in international trade fairs, they absolutely have to meet international standards assessment.

So the ARA is able to achieve STANAG level 4.

I do not think, correct me if l am wrong, but it seems the Ezugwu had not been subjected to independent international inspection.

So my view is that the ARA is considerably superior.