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The guy probably couldn't cope in a cave anymore - and had to take the risks of hiding in plain view.

Aigbofa:
He wasn't in a cave afterall. The modern world is too alluring.

The guy probably couldn't cope in a cave anymore - and had to take the risks of hiding in plain view.

Aigbofa:
He wasn't in a cave afterall. The modern world is too alluring.

True dat.

Ileke-IdI:
Yes true.
Today, 5/1/2011 is a momentous moment for the victims' families.

He stoops to conquer

dayokanu:
Osama is dead. Its on CNN

What the gra gra of George bush and Republican couldnt do, the smiles and jokes of Obama did

Yeah, right. That citizenship thing is all politics - but Obama can play that game pretty good.

Kilode?!:
Hopefully this will now qualify Obama for American citizenship.

You should have better things to worry about than whether OBJ is or is not in PDP.

In any case unless he violates rules that require expulsion nobody has a say in the matter.

Who do you think led the underground operation on behalf of GEJ? Well duh? - OBJ.

Do something better with your time.

EzeUche__:
Does PDP need OBJ anymore? What does he even offer?

He cannot get his region to vote for PDP, so what use is he to PDP?

In politics, there are no permanent friends, there are only permanent interest.

And in the interest of PDP, he is not needed, because he is a liability. Hopefully, he shall be placed in the political wilderness.

https://nm.onlinenigeria.com/articlefiles/8619-obasanjo.jpg

True - especially those Boko Haram guys in Maiduguri.

Aigbofa:
I hope the Nigerian government is taking precautionary measures to prevent another round of carnage in the north.
I won't be surprised if some knuckeheads up north decides to avenge him on fellow Nigerians.

The guy was not living in caves at all.

He was found in a mansion outside of the Pakistani capital of Islamabad!!!

They are making sure to mention that the U.S. has HIS CONFIRMED BODY.

Brisingr:
who knows if it d real osama and not some ploy by d us of a 2 save face d real bin laden is probably sippin mojito in aruba

I think it is a good day for America and all those who were busy with their daily chores (called jobs) on Sept. 11 only to be snuffed out in the high noon.

I think the U.S. and the world know that there are Osamas in waiting - they would have to double up  the game.

Baseline is the world or Nigeria or anywhere else cannot be left in the hands of terrorists.

I think the muslim world should jubilate too - this guy and his drugged crazies have killed more muslims than anybody else since 2001.

Ileke-IdI:
Yo, what channel is CNN on again?

Why are you ppl jubilating? There are million more of him to replace him.

Good Riddance To Bad Rubbish - Osama Bin Laden Eliminated

Breaking News Right Now on CNN - all over the American Networks.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/01/bin.laden.dead/index.html

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/01/obama-to-make-statment-tonight-subject-unknown/

I hope the ACN can project and implement its vision in the SW, as well as provide a good contrast to PDPs shameful 12 years of performance at the center. If so, good men in other regions will join in and help expand its base. PDP can preempt that by getting those good men/women and letting them contribute over the next 4 years, rather that disabling them.

Beaf:
^
I don't think the ACN performance mantra really holds outside the SW, or beyond Fashola and Oshiomole to a degree. In other regions, ACN has tended to put forward political journeymen (aside from Ngige in the SE). I don't see it really growing outside the SW, the ingredents aren't there, at least not for the next 8 years.

I don't understand the elaborate web you are trying to weave.

The only thing to say is that the 2015 competition in Lagos will be between fresh candidates, and it all depends on who can protect Fashola's good works or better it.

Your talk of dismantling the ACN machinery in Lagos is negative competition and a disservice to the people. I hope this is not how PDP is planning to "recapture" the SW  - it will not work. The SW is tasting what visionary leadership can bring, and will become even more sophisticated in their choice of leaders - if so, look for PDP to be dismantled nationally.

All PDP has to do is show that their people in control of most of the states can match ACN nationwide - but I am not holding my breadth.

gokuu:
If PDP wants to bounce back in the SW, it has to dismantle the ACN machinery in lagos. The PDP can accomplish this by playing the 'ethnic card', maybe fielding a 'charismatic' & 'sellable' igbo man as governor and an 'hausa man' as deputy governor & covertly sponsor some one like jimi agbaje on the platform of labour party to break bloc 'yoruba' votes, with this it should be assured of over 1/3 of state assembly seats, making it able to ground any ACN govt, so as to discourage the electorate, with that, it can stage its comeback!

@Beaf
I agree that PDP needs to go back to the drawing board, but not only in the SW. PDP's dominance for the next 4 years is a golden chance to show they can match ACN's performance nationwide. PDP has some performing governors in the SE and a couple in the North, but these have not matched Fashola's comprehensive approach.

ACN is currently being called a regional party, but its approach of looking for the best men and implementing people-oriented programs will see it spread beyond the SW when the next election rolls around - if they keep up their performance and/or PDP doesn't get its act together.

This is the beauty of democracy. Only if we had stayed with this process since the 1960s!!!

Beaf:
Thanks.

@topic
PDP in the SW will need to grow new leaders that are visionary, positive, modern and hardworking, otherwise it risks the real danger of fizzling out in the region even though it seems to have 40% of regional following.
ACN's Fashola has simply overshadowed anyone they have put foward in all facets of delivery, instead the party has been characterised by epic battles between larger than life individuals.

Right.

Beaf:
My apologies for digressing. . .
"Penkelemesi," I learnt that it means "perculiar mess." Is that true?

Hear"Chief" Bode George: George, an erstwhile Deputy National Chairman of the  PDP, specifically blamed Obasanjo  for not fulfilling his electoral promises to the people of the Zone,  in the areas of social infrastructure such as deplorable   road networks in the zone , including perceived mismanagement  of both human and material resources throughout the eight years  of his reign as a civilian president.

OBJ's Come Back? With contract splitting friends like Bode George, where was the money for infrastructure supposed to come from.

Let the blame game begin - I am going to enjoy this.

LMAO

Written by Adelowo Oladipo, Lagos Sunday, 01 May 2011

A chieftain of the Peoples Democratic Party , Chief Olabode  George, has explained that the decision of the Yoruba people of  the South- West geo-political zone, to vote en mass for the Action  Congress of Nigeria (ACN) in the National Assembly, governorship and  state Houses of Assembly elections in the just  concluded general  elections, may have been a direct protest against former President  Olusegun Obasanjo and the PDP governors.

George, an erstwhile Deputy National Chairman of the  PDP, specifically blamed Obasanjo  for not fulfilling his electoral promises to the people of the Zone,  in the areas of social infrastructure such as deplorable   road networks in the zone , including perceived mismanagement  of both human and material resources throughout the eight years  of his reign as a civilian president.

The frontline PDP chieftain stated this in an interview with the  Sunday Tribune at his Lugard Road Ikoyi  Lagos office at  the  weekend, highlighting that the Yoruba people are not foolish,  as  they were very easy to govern, but as a result  of their long history  of education, they are  very difficult to be deceived.

Accordingly, he said “ the  concept of PDP is turn by turn Nigeria  Limited and when it was our turn , Chief Obasanjo did some  things and failed to remember his own people  back home in  terms of infrastructural facilities, human and material resources  management.

“In fact, the Yoruba people  were expecting that all the network  of roads in bad shapes ought to have been rehabilitated or re-  constructed before the  expiration of his eight-year rule as civilian President.  But the Yoruba  people are not foolish, they are very deep  thinkers because we have a very long history with education and  education made people very  easy to govern,” he maintained.

Speaking further, George stressed that without apology to  anybody, former President Obasanjo  was particularizing himself and portraying an image that he was  bigger than anybody, rather than helping his own people,” adding  that he, (Bode George) in conjunction with his former boss  allegedly made some promises  to the Yoruba people in 2003,  while canvassing for the co-operation and support of the   people that if the people could follow them to the centre stage of the  nation’s politics that the regime was going to do so, so and so , for  them.

“We  specifically went to solicit the co-operation and support of  the Yoruba people before the 2003 elections. But the Yoruba are  not fools, and the people have asked me since we came back that,  Bode, what did you and your so called president bring home at  the expiration of Obasanjo’s civilian administration. But rather  than being appreciated and commended for supporting the  administration till when it lasted, I was sent to jail for not  committing any crime and on my return from the prison, this  same person with whom I gave hundred per cent of my support  for his leadership said I was celebrating criminality,” said George.

He however, did not rule out the possibilities of reconciliation with  former President Obasanjo, just as he stated that  he was not  thinking of vengeance against his former boss, adding that if the  two of them including those who might be interested in  reconciling them wanted genuine reconciliation , that “we should  lay it all on the table, be honest with ourselves and  respect  ourselves because respect begets respect and that is the tradition of  the Yoruba people because we all have a stake in this game.”

http://tribune.com.ng/sun/index.php/news/3781-bode-george-blasts-obj-over-pdps-poor-showing-in-sw

Have you considered having a ton of wives and having tons of children? - 20 fingers and toes multiplied several times will do wonders like any PDP calculator

Depointer1:
I really don't know how it works but someone told me its fantastic for large numbers.

Straight to the courts. As Prof. Ake would say, PDP has "swallowed pestles" in Benue, Akwa Ibom and Delta State and must sleep standing.

ekt_bear:
What can you do

Sucks, but I dunno how to solve the problem

Hilarious! Simply hilarious

Depointer1:
I really don't know how it works but someone told me its fantastic for large numbers.

What does this have to do with anything? Mumu governor.

The Governor of Bauchi State, Malam sa Yuguda, stunned journalists at the Government House, Bauchi, on Thursday when he said he too was attacked as a member of the National Youth Service Corps in Ibadan.

Isn't this the same person some people were grooming for the presidency ?

Why couldn't Buhari's supporters accept the vote as Buhari's destiny?
Why couldn't they believe in a "destiny" of non-violence?

This is the same statement some highly placed northerner made to Abiola after IBB annulled the June 12 elections.

This statement is the root cause of a lot of problems up north with people like Yuguda playing on the ignorance of the masses.

A governor of a state? With people like this Nigeria has a 1000 years to go on the journey to progress.

Dotman01:
''Yuguda reasoned that the corps members, who were murdered last week in the state, only fulfilled their destinies.'' . . . Oloriburuku somebody.

You better look at the voting pattern, and see that in many states ACN came close to winning the Guber Election. If the new ACN governors follow the path of the olds ones and perform well, look for ACN to contend in both the Middle to Upper Middle North and the rest of the South come the next election. PDP has some performing governors in the SE, so may be the inroads will be slow.

ACN is not designed to be a regional party, but it had to start somewhere by showing what good governance looks like.

Meanwhile, don't kill yourself with bad-belle - O pe kete n'dagba, inu Adamo n'ba je.

igbo boy:
haha i am happy ACN na oga for SW, which means as the oduas are busy campaigning for relevance in their SW hamlets they will become village champions rather than national champions, Nobody I repeat Nobody (not even the almighty north) can go it alone in this entity called nigeria, so as long as odua focus in their region this gives more opportunity for other people to rule nigeria,,.YAY,

Kudos ndi ofe mmanu more grease (literally more grease) to your elbow 

Quote: In Plateau State, former Governor, Chief Joshua Dariye won the election in the Plateau Central Senatorial District. Former House of Representatives member, Victor Lar won the seat for Plateau South Senatorial District.

Benue youths protest governorship poll result

By Uja Emmanuel, Makurdi and Yusufu Aminu, Jos1 hour ago

There was a protest in Makurdi, the Benue State capital yesterday by youths rejecting the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) results of the governorship election.

People’s Democratic Party’s candidate, Governor Gabriel Suswam leads, according to the returns from 18 of the 23 local government areas.

But the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) rejected the result.

Senator George Akume of the ACN polled 261,726 to beat Hon. Terngu Tsegba of the PDP who garnered 143,354 votes. He retains his seat.

Senatorial returning officer, Dr. Adehola Sotimehim, announced the result.

In the House of Assembly elections, Speaker Terseer Tsumba and Majority Leader, David Mwar lost their seats.

In Plateau State, former Governor, Chief Joshua Dariye won the election in the Plateau Central Senatorial District. Former House of Representatives member, Victor Lar won the seat for Plateau South Senatorial District.

In a statement, Benue State chairman of the ACN Abba Yaro alleged that results were cooked and doctored by the PDP in Logo, Ukum, Katsina Ala, Konshisha, Guma, Gwer-Gwer West local government areas, and the entire of Zone C.

The party said there were glaring cases where elections did not hold, but results returned in favour of the PDP. It also alleged that fake corps members and soldiers were used to intimidate ACN supporters.

The party said it would challenge the result of the election at the tribunal.

Speaker Tsumba of the PDP who recorded 18,692 votes, lost his seat to ACN candidate Aduku Gbileve who polled 44,487 votes in Buruku constituency.

Majority Leader Mwar of the PDP was also defeated by ACN candidate, Mato in Kyan constituency.

The protesting youths, numbering over 200 took to major streets of Makurdi, over the outcome of the election in which Governor Suswan was coasting to victory.

Police dispersed and arrested some of them

Dariye, popularly known as head boy of politics in the zone, defeated the younger brother to former Head of State Yakubu Gowon, Mr. Dauda Gowon.

Lar polled 132, 768 votes to defeat incumbent Senator John Shagaya of the Labour Party (LP) who got 72, 534 votes and former Minister of the Federal Capital Territory Minister (FCT), Jeremiah Useni, who polled 97,846 votes.

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/news/4383-benue-youths-protest-governorship-poll-result.html

Quote: What about those, the majority, that want him to remain?

Really, there is a majority in Libya who wants Ghaddafi? The same majority that has being renewing his term every four years for 42 yrs.

Isn't that what people were protesting about in the first place? [size=24pt]They want to vote for their leaders[/size].

[size=14pt]What kind of person doesn't realize that 42 years in power is way more than enough - anyway you slice it?[/size]

Let him destroy whatever could have been his legacy, he is finished.

Chyz*:
That one "tribe" from benghazi is rebelling against him, not all of Libya. What about those, the majority, that want him to remain? If they take him out and I'm pose another person isn't that going against the people since majority rules? Also, yes you are right that 42 years rules is outrages but what of King abdullah of Saudi, he's done massacres that have actually been recorded, unlike the claimed massacre that Gadaffi was said to have done. As for the protesting, they didnt fire at them for "protesting", c'mon. Sure they would be fired on if they began to get violent, it is done that way here in the U.S. Have you seen how developed that country of Libya is, come see paradise in Africa, or at least close to it. Benghazi he the largest oil producing area in Libya, they felt that they were being marginalize based off their tribal affiliation. Putin is right, you got a long way to go if you think those external force will waste millions/billions of dollars just to help protect some Africans.

And who turned them into rebels? What right does Ghadaffi has to call anybody a rebel? His rule is illegal - it doesn't matter how long he's dominated the country?

[size=24pt]They protested for him to leave after 42 years, he fired at them, they fired back, he keeps firing, they keep firing.[/size]. You call them rebels!!!

Chyz*:
Did he Kill his own people or are those people he "was killing" not the rebels?

[center][size=24pt]WHO GAVE GHADDAFI THE RIGHT TO KILL HIS OWN PEOPLE?[/size]

[size=24pt]Isn't 42 years enough for someone who has obviously gone WACKO?[/size][/center]

Where is this record you are talking about? People certainly believe he does, but I do not see any real records similar to what you listed below.

3) Now concerning Buhari, some accuse the north of retrogressive thinking! Ask any northerner, what was Buhari being called in the north in campaign rallies? He was being called "mai gaskiya" which loosely translates to the "honest" one. Northerners believe that Buhari is incorruptible and is for the common man. He has the record to prove this.

Kill you more? You will have a gun and not use it against your attacker?

Aren't people currently allowed to own a gun with permit.

vladimiros:
wait so that Northern Pigs would kill us more?

Not just the second amendment, but a completely re-written constitution to be voted on by the populace. This yeye compulsory NYSC need to become voluntary, although it could be requirement for civil service. Let's replace it with some form of military training for all young men.

But where are you going to find courage in the corridors of Nigeria's power.

bk.babe97y:
Hhehehehehehe. So, Ibos can kidnap everyone in Nigeria? lmao

If this story is true then the Nigerian police will be the death of us.

Quote: “They waited for the police to exhaust their bullets and then moved in. Those who ran into the bush escaped, while Ikechukwu and others who ran into the police station were killed. What an irony! So, bush is safer than a police station in Nigeria. I heard gurgling sounds as they were snuffing life out of him. The next thing, a man speaking in Hausa had his phone.”

Whatever the case the blood of these NYSC members must be redeemed. Reprisal attacks are unneeded - it is exactly the same thing as these senseless killings.

However, if I were President GEJ I will not rest until a couple of hundreds of those responsible for this mayhem are before a firing squad.

He had better get on with it too. Otherwise, somebody, somewhere is going to take the law into his own hands in revenge with damaging effects for this SORRY country called Nigeria.

Quote: "According to the group, “The lack of accountability for the violence and killings has reached a crisis point; the ongoing lack of justice for the victims is undermining the credibility of the electoral process. We believe that unpunished violence and killings makes it difficult for fair, free and transparent elections, let alone longer-term democratic processes that can guarantee respect for human rights, to take root and function properly.”

By Nseobong Okon-Ekong

Family members and associates of the late Ukeoma Ikechukwu, a member of the National Youth Service Corps (NYSC) slain in Bauchi after last week’s presidential election, are still in shock.

Ikechukwu, would have celebrated his 32nd birthday on Sunday, having been born on April 24, 1979. A graduate of Microbiology from the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, he also served as a manager at His Grace Network, a distributive firm based at Apongbon, Lagos with interest in juice wine.

Mr. Ifeanyi Okoye, Managing Director of the company, described the late Ikechukwu’s last moments: “On Monday morning (April 18), he called me and said there was an emergency and that they were being attacked. He said he was running to the police station in Giagi Local Government area of Bauchi State. I could hear gun shots, which he said was the police shooting into the air. He reported to me that the mob was approaching with clubs and knives.

“They waited for the police to exhaust their bullets and then moved in. Those who ran into the bush escaped, while Ikechukwu and others who ran into the police station were killed. What an irony! So, bush is safer than a police station in Nigeria. I heard gurgling sounds as they were snuffing life out of him. The next thing, a man speaking in Hausa had his phone.”

In a tear-laden voice, Okoye summarised the family’s immediate concern.

“We don’t want Ikechukwu to be buried in Bauchi. His body should be released to us. The Zonal Coordinator of the NYSC and the Welfare Officer have been acting funny since this unfortunate incident happened,” he said.

On the phone from Awommama in Njaba Local Government area of Imo State, his younger brother, Nnaemeka Christain Ukeoma, said he left his plumbing business in Uyo, Akwa Ibom State, to break the news to his parents.

“It would not be good for them to hear from somebody else. My family is devastated right now. Ikechukwu was the eldest son in a family of six children and we were hopeful that he would be supportive of our aspirations. I spoke with him last the day after the presidential election. He wanted money to leave for Abuja the next day (April 18). Because of the hostility he experienced as a polling official, he said he would not stay for the governorship election,” he said.

Pastor Paul Adefarasin of the House on the Rock, where the late Ikechukwu served in the Prayer and Intercessory department, said while his church encourages its members to answer the national call  to serve anywhere in the country, “it is not comforting and we are deeply saddened. We are not happy. It is an awful development and we join all well-meaning people to commiserate with his family and everyone who loved him. We hope those who carried out this heinous crime will brought to justice; so that he would not have died in vain. Justice, must be our arbiter as a country. This is our human capital that we are wasting. It is unfair, especially to his family who made an investment on him”.

Meanwhile, The Socio-Economic Rights and Accountability Project (SERAP) has written to the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, Ms Navi Pillay, urging her to “urgently visit Nigeria on a fact-finding mission to probe the ongoing post election violence and killings, and to identify state and non-state actors, including leaders of political parties, who are either complicit or directly responsible for the violence and killings and to send their names to the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court for prosecution”.

The group asked Pillay to “speak out and publicly condemn the violence and killings, and ask the Nigerian government and leaders of political parties to show responsibility and ensure full respect for the human rights of the citizens, including the right to life, to human security and property, to participation and development”.

In the petition dated 21 April 2011, and signed by SERAP Executive Director Adetokunbo Mumuni, the group expressed “concerns about the recurring violence and killings and the associated human rights violations, including the right to life, to human security, to property, to participation and development”.

“SERAP believes that your visit to Nigeria would send a strong message to the security agencies and leaders of political parties that they will be held responsible for any complicity in election violence and killings. Your investigation of the killings and identification of the perpetrators and providing the ICC Prosecutor with the information would also help to provide justice to the victims, and promote greater security and respect for human rights in future elections,” the group also said.

According to the group, “The lack of accountability for the violence and killings has reached a crisis point; the ongoing lack of justice for the victims is undermining the credibility of the electoral process. We believe that unpunished violence and killings makes it difficult for fair, free and transparent elections, let alone longer-term democratic processes that can guarantee respect for human rights, to take root and function properly.”

The group also said: “We believe that, in the present circumstances, it is doubtful if the government and the leaders of political parties will be able to address the declining security and human rights situation. Given the experience of the past, it is unlikely that there will be any national legal action to effectively identify, prosecute and punish those responsible.”

The group also expressed “concern that the violence and killings may slow the consolidation of democracy and good governance in the country, and contribute to further denial of the citizens’ internationally recognized human rights, including economic and social rights”.

I see your point now, but that "every knee shall bow" quip was way-way over the top.

President GEJ should not listen to the Ezeuches and Onlytruths of this world.

Beaf:
Dude, chill.
Its a game of chess and Buhari's moves are only for short term relief. They are aimed at inciting his almajiri's (to get last minute confidence to vote in the midst of a military crackdown), as well as praying that GEJ would somehow misstep; its proper bushman politics. Its tactics for the primitive by the uncivilsed.

Even as early as the next 48 hours, the political terrain would have changed significantly and the incitement would have totally worn off.

Exactly. I wonder why that is so hard to understand for grown men.

Buhari certainly encouraged a hard-stance during the campaigns. He might have even being hoping for a massive protest. In addition, there was both underground and open encouragement of rebellion, especially by the NPLF to reclaim the north's so-called "mandate" from GEJ. Buhari turned out to be the potential beneficiary of all these at the end, if it worked.

Now does that lead to material culpability for the carnage that ensued? I don't know. Perhaps the SSS has evidence to support such a position. If so, good riddance in a court of law, otherwise let's focus on calming nerves and bringing severe punishment to people who actually committed the crimes.

Remember Saro-Wiwa. Don't create an unnecessary hero for religious fanatics that are looking for any kind of rallying cry to cause more mayhem.

My position has always being instead of focusing on the puppet masters who are unlikely to caught red-handed any time soon, put the fear of God and of the State into their errand boys. Catch, try swiftly and eliminate as many have been caught red-handed perpetrating evil, whether sent by others or of their own volition. Next time, others will think twice, three times, even if called upon by satan himself to do it again. If we can get them under threat of punishment to reveal concrete evidence against their paymasters, then we go after them based on real evidence.

ekt_bear:
Buhari has already condemned the violence. If they don't listen to him, then they are clearly not under his control, and thus not his foot soldiers. What else is he supposed to do?