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Yes, you are correct on that one too.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=648250.msg8144037#msg8144037 date=1302994658]^-- Yes, but no LGA breakdowns.[/quote]

INEC has a spreadsheet with the results by Senatorial District on the website. I just replaced my earlier table with a chart - the spreadsheet was too big.

I cannot believe that the most important aspect of the elections, results, was not well-planned. We have a long way to goooooooo. . .

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=648250.msg8143623#msg8143623 date=1302990364]I do not understand how one week after an election, INEC can have such limited data on its website. I understand democracy is young in Nigeria, but it shouldn't be this hard. Unless someone is purposefully making information hard to get  [/quote]

Detailed Senate Results

Agree with most of what you said, which is why I said we are "almost" saying the same thing. The fact that nobody read his mind to know his real intention is the big caveat.

However, if we could read his mind and he really did not know the pen was for him to keep then his intent was to steal. Otherwise we will have to ascribe it to one those other things I mentioned.

See my point?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=648122.msg8142514#msg8142514 date=1302977516]We're not saying the same thing.

1) His body language suggested that he did not know the pen was for keep.

2) His body language also suggested that he intent on keeping the pen

3) If he thought the pen was not for keep, the intent on keeping the pen is stealing.

4) At the end, it does not matter if the pen was for keeps or not, what matters is his intention and body language.



My assumption:

1) Trick of a petty thief: He switched his hands so that when he lifts back up the same hand he picked the pen with, one would not "guess" that the pen was in his hand the first instance if no one was paying close attention to the pen to begin with.

2) Closing the pen case would not make it easily obvious that the pen is missing. One would only know right away if one's primary intent was to open the pen case to use the pen.[/quote]

You mean 17m vs. 19.8m - not too much different

blacksta:
S-South (9.5m) + S-East (7.5m) is 2.8m voters short of the voting strength of the N-West (19.8m)

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=648122.msg8142474#msg8142474 date=1302977009][s]Dayo, if you feel the need to start your NL sex talks and your never ending sexual tension, you can take yourself to the sexuality section.[/s]

We're still waiting on your opinion on this poll results.   Do you or do you not think GEJ will win?[/quote]

This Ileke-Idi funny no be small - I trust you if you say you did.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=648122.msg8142428#msg8142428 date=1302976667]Why not?
Do you want to be a first hand witness next time? That could be arranged.[/quote]

We are almost saying the same thing - the difference is he was intent on keeping the pen, which may or may not have being an intent to steal it. The latter applies only if he didn't know or believe it was supposed to be his anyway. Otherwise, it boils than to being too eager or bored or just not thinking.

It is hard to tell what was going through his mind because: 1) he didn't have to change the pen from his right to left hand before pocketing it; 2) he came back to close the case without pretending to put anything back in there.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=648122.msg8142386#msg8142386 date=1302976279]That's not the point.

The point is his intention; which was to steal.

I read a comment from one of the repliers, she said something like ; I wish he would only steal the pen and not the country's money.[/quote]

Yes, we do love you. U are the energizer bunny!!! I don't think you could that in the space of less than a couple of hours though or could you

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=648122.msg8142328#msg8142328 date=1302975722]Which excitement? I slept, woke. . . .did the morning stuff and I'm now back to terrorize NL.

Dont you guys just love me?


LOL He "stole" the pen like a thief. He obviously didnt think it was meant for keep.[/quote]

Yes, I saw his body language and it is likely he believed he was "stealing" it - but he was merely stealing what was supposed to be his anyway.

Basseti:
Too eager ko, too eager ni.

The guy stole the pen, period!!!!!

Watch the video again and observe his body language (facial expression prior to and after the act, movements of his hand etc).

He didn't steal the pen - those pens are usually meant for the guests to keep, but he was a little too eager, making himself look like a klepto. . .

johnie:
Like the sanction recently imposed on Czech republic whose president "stole" a pen in Chile?

Can't sleep or sleep-posting?

No one can sleep with all this excitement out there.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=648122.msg8142264#msg8142264 date=1302975155]If you think what you have to say is intelligent, open up. If iit's not, stick with your first option, babe.

So you're pro-GEJ. That's surprising.

A lot of people made their guesstimate based on last Saturday's election, I suppose.[/quote]

I don't think you should start this early crediting again.

CPC is going to repay PDP in kind for all the rigging that happened last week in the North.

From where I am standing now it may come down to a run-off.

efisher:
Credit to Nigerians for believing in Nigeria.

Credit to Jega for an improved election.

Credit to GEJ for providing an enabling environment. He has scored 90% in security today. Thank God for his mercies (Prayers work).

Credit to BB, Ribadu and every opposition for competing.

One last one:

Credit to OBJ for reviving the telecom sector. This whole process has been greatly aided by an efficient communication system. Everything works together. Next on the line is power.

Igbos are 45% of Lagos population. . .

40% of North population. . .

In essence the population of Igbos in Nigeria will soon be proclaimed to be 40% of Nigeria.!!!!

Nuhu Ribadu just reported low voter turn-out in Adamawa State as well.

What is happening up north

In other words they are rigging

Abagworo:
It was so difficult but I voted Buhari in Port Harcourt.They were using metal to break your right hand if you vote for Buhari.

Sweet dreams

By the time you wake up there may be a president-elect.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=648122.msg8141429#msg8141429 date=1302966555]ROTFLMAO!!

Well, I'm just glad I'm meeting more Non-Yorubas because if one should judge others by what is being posted on NL. . . . it wont be good.

Well, you guys enjoy your elections sha. I dey go sleep.[/quote]

@Ileke-Idi
Anonymity is a great cover for people to show true colors. Those on NL are just as brilliant, but they reveal the boiling tribalism only when you can't tell who they are.

Very dangerous I must say.

Just the other day, after the disaster of Kaita in the South African world cup, I met someone for the very first time ever - obviously highly educated. Within a couple of statements he went tribal on me.
"Hi. . .";
"So you are from Nigeria";
"Yes,. . .";
"You are Yoruba";
"Yes"; "
"Na your country-man make us lose the game";

He was obviously joking around, but how do I start explaining to him that Sani Kaita is not Yoruba. It is almost as if a lot of people grow up being fed on tribalism, and cannot see exactly what is wrong with such statements - almost like the taken-fo-granted acts of racism you observe in Western nations.

The other day someone's attention was called to his GF being Kwaran (at least partly Yoruba), and he simply replied that it is the "Hausa" part of her that she shows  

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=648122.msg8141281#msg8141281 date=1302965112]BTW, I met an Igbo at a meeting last night and we were discussing this election. Why do Igbos sound brilliant offline, but so many Igbo ediots on NL? Very interesting.[/quote]

@Ileke-Idi
Anonymity is a great cover for people to show true colors. Those on NL are just as brilliant, but they reveal the boiling tribalism only when you can't tell who they are.

Very dangerous I must say.

Just the other day, after the disaster of Kaita in the South African world cup, I met someone for the very first time ever - obviously highly educated. Within a couple of statements he went tribal on me.
"Hi. . .";
"So you are from Nigeria";
"Yes,. . .";
"You are Yoruba";
"Yes"; "
"Na your country-man make us lose the game";

He was obviously joking around, but how do I start explaining to him that Sani Kaita is not Yoruba. It is almost as if a lot of people grow up being fed on tribalism, and cannot see exactly what is wrong with such statements - almost like the taken-fo-granted acts of racism you observe in Western nations.

The other day someone's attention was called to his GF being Kwaran (at least partly Yoruba), and he simply replied that it is the "Hausa" part of her that she shows  

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=648122.msg8141281#msg8141281 date=1302965112]BTW, I met an Igbo at a meeting last night and we were discussing this election. Why do Igbos sound brilliant offline, but so many Igbo ediots on NL? Very interesting.[/quote]

Come again!!! You must be high on your own fart, otherwise I don't see where name calling comes into this.  

fstranger5:
^^^^
Dont mind those Eediots.

Oh yes, John is English for the Hebrew name Yo--something, just like Wood is the English name for what we call "Igi" in Yoruba.

Anyway, I am not interested in pursuing this more than is necessary.

My only concern is the alacrity with which Nigerians accept bad names they are called just because they now expect it to be so. We need to be careful, the world can turn from one side to the other in a blink.

[size=14pt]Who knows may be he is one of the agents Ghadaffi has being using or training to inflitrate Nigeria, with his penchant for contempt towards our country. Did you consider that?[/size]

Besides if you are really interested in making sure, you will doubt this to begin with and then see if it can be authenticated. What I am looking at are:
1.  John Wood could be Nigerian, but could also be American, British, or whatever.
2. Is 13 O(A)melian St, Surulere, Lagos a real place?

fstranger5:
First of all, the guy does not have two English names. He has just one English name, Wood.  John is a christian name, any one can bear John.

There are a lot of Catholics in Nigeria bearing the name John.

So there is nothing crazy about a Nigerian bearing John Wood.

I am not disagreeing with the two English names per se, but the kind of strange combination like John Wood - it seems clear what the guy did with the name e.g. Peter Stone; James Leaf - that is a rare combination for a Nigerian.

One more evidence is probably the street name - 13 A(O)melian St, Surulere, Lagos. Is that a real place?

He doesn't look any more Nigerian than a Malian, Ghanian, Kenyan or a citizen of any of the "black" nations of Africa.

I will be very careful with the this kind of stuff - people use the bad name that Nigeria has acquired due to the actions of a few (admittedly our government seems unconcerned) to substitute Nigeria for any bad thing they want to name.

We need to be careful.

fstranger5:
Well, i have seen and met a lot of Ibo peeps with, strictly, English names.

So i dont think it is far-fetched that the guy in question is Nigerian. He looks like it.

Suleja again

Yes, but not like John Wood - Nigerians don't bear two english names especially on a passport.

fstranger5:
^^^^
So you,ve never met a Nigeria with English names?
You must be one of those ara okos ( no offeinse)

Fake or bought passport.

A Lagosian named John Wood - now that is simply hilarious!!!
What about Paul Stone; Peter Book; James Chair

So President GEJ is into U.S. style campaigning, hmmmm.

We hope for U.S. style leadership beginning Sunday 

Azedplus:
god knows how the guy must have sucked our treasury dry.imagine his call woke me up around 11:54 pm and a prerecorded voice (i guess ) of him was saying my name is pres. badluck ebele jonathan blah blah blah .i ponder over this,how much this would cost.the telephone no is a lagos code 01 and it spoke 4 few sec.shd i post the no

mumu dey worry you. This must be the joke of the century

bashr4:
what do yoruba want from or of the igbos? why are they soo bitter with anything igbo and become professors in igbo matters even when we are minding our own buisness ?
what can we do for you to stop distracting us and dragging us down ?

pls i need answers cause i didnt come to nairaland to become an igbo warrior.

I think the saying "[size=14pt]Give me freedom or give me death[/size]" is for you.

Free under a corrupt government is an oxymoron - a corrupt government will never guaranttee your various God-Given Freedoms
In the same way "wear hijabs and have basic amenities" is an oxymoron - this makes you a beggar.

What kind of people live in this country anyway to let this type of statements come out of their mouths?

ssumpta:
When will this ACN get their Poo together. This just shows how unserious they really are.

But i will never understand why Nigerians hate Buhari so much.
Isn't it better we wear hijabs and have  basic amenities, than to be 'free' under a corrupt government, which is itself the worst form of slavery?

[size=14pt]DANGER AHEAD[/size]

PDP is playing with fire - let them go and ask NPN of 1983.
This happened without much anger because it was essentially about local choices. Still if this woman doesn't end up in jail, GEJ would prove to be no better than OBJ.

With a presidential election the STAKES are 1000 times higher.

I hope INEC,GEJ or whoever has the good sense to prevent this kind of travesty.

It is always about Yoruba to you people - you will not make progress this way. That is not a curse, it is a statement of fact!

yarodin:
But when it comes to Politics Yoruba politicians like Tinibu cannot be trusted.  In approximately two days, Tinibu has jumped from one Ribadu, Buhari, and Jonathan.  Now that is what I call a POLITICAL ASHI.

@emeka_gh
This is the kind of reasoning that makes me trust Ribadu ahead of GEJ. If you must know I 'll rather have GEJ than Buhari.
For your information:
==>Nigerians are not comfortable with the PDP. It is like saying the people of North Korea are comfortable with their leader or Cameroon with Biya. They simply have no choice, their fighting spirit has been curbed by decades of half-baked education, complete dependence on "government" for everything, daylight corruption and power of the state.
==>Sure, some Nigerians will vote for PDP and GEJ, PDP will rig most of the rest and GEJ would not complain.
==>You are the one that is clueless. I can't believe any GEJ supporter would ever accuse any presidential candidate of being clueless - wonders shall never end
==>The economy is doing better now simply because of one thing - oil prices has started to rise again. There is not much GEJ has done to fundamentally change the Nigerian economy. He has plans for electricity, and what else, but so did OBJ & Yar'adua/GEJ - all we got after years of PDP waste was an "apology" that cannot light a bulb. You people are quick to claim credit for something you are not responsible for, yet would not own up to blowing billions of dollars between Yar'adua & GEJ in the space of less than 4 years.

I hope whoever wins, Nigerians learn to keep their leaders on a short leash.

[quote author=emeka_gh link=topic=646592.msg8129474#msg8129474 date=1302824507]You guys don't get it! And perhaps will not get it until Sunday morning!

1.  Some Nigerians are not comfortable with PDP but most of them are.
2.  Most Nigerians who are not comfortable with PDP have high hopes in GEJ
3.  Some Nigerians will vote for PDP, many will vote for GEJ
4.  Buhari is a hard sell; South West are only selling Bakare (who incidentally is not sellable across the Nation and to international community)
5.  Ribadu is clueless; too young and too loud; Buhari is power drunk dictator; Usurper then, attempting to usurp the youth now; Tinubu called him "Expired", meaning he is toxic, poisonous.
6.  GEJ was loved by at least 80% Nigerians at the peak of his ascension; perhaps he has lost 20% but his is still popular; He has national appeal.
7.  Agreement or not, 90% of 'non-indigenes' (trust me, they are many) will vote for GEJ in Lagos (3m at least) (ACN is not as strong as they want to make us believe in the  southwest)
8.  Voting for GEJ (or the  new PDP) will amount to progress, prosperity and consolidations of Nigeria's growth
9.  An economy that grew by over 8% (in GDP) in difficult period is a well managed econony; the reserves are growing again contrary to what opposition liars would want us believe.
10.   Nigerians will be very pleased if GEJ wins (those that will be disappointed are the BB fanatics, and they are in the minority.

Nigerians love GEJ, that is why BB, Tinubu, Ribadu are the losers.[/quote]