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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSqhqP3U-t4&feature=relmfu

Watch from 2;30
Biafran baby soldiers.
This to me is self afflicted pain and a form of suicide
These were the children prepared for the propaganda.

5:40 Post war officers even looked fresher than Gowon


6:00 post war people. There was no frail nor sick.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An7IZBBATTM&feature=relmfu

Self prophesy often leads to self fulfillment and it leads to destruction
Talking about common cultural development issues, and rural lifestyle

What Achebe did not say

That the biafran army knew in the first year they had lost the war, a reasonable person would have thrown in the towel, save his people and live to plan for another day.
They resulted to war propaganda that ushered in friends and sympathizers.

“War propaganda is that branch of public relations devoted to manipulating people's attitude toward a war or war in general, rather than engaging in open dialogue. It includes both pro-war propaganda, by governments and war industrialists, and anti-war propaganda by pacifists or enemy sympathizers. What makes it propaganda isn't the sincerity or insincerity of its originators but its methods of media manipulation, going beyond lies to misdirection, loaded vocabulary, staged events, and fallacious demagoguery, all of which can be justified/rationalized by a 'good' cause, whether patriotic or idealistic”



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ReFoFp0Gs

watch from !:35
propaganda

1:57 effect of the propaganda (the children) were the sick kids created from the baby army?

What Achebe did not say

That the biafran army knew in the first year they had lost the war, a reasonable person would have thrown in the towel, save his people and live to plan for another day.
They resulted to war propaganda that ushered in friends and sympathizers.

“War propaganda is that branch of public relations devoted to manipulating people's attitude toward a war or war in general, rather than engaging in open dialogue. It includes both pro-war propaganda, by governments and war industrialists, and anti-war propaganda by pacifists or enemy sympathizers. What makes it propaganda isn't the sincerity or insincerity of its originators but its methods of media manipulation, going beyond lies to misdirection, loaded vocabulary, staged events, and fallacious demagoguery, all of which can be justified/rationalized by a 'good' cause, whether patriotic or idealistic”



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ReFoFp0Gs

watch from 1:35
propaganda

1:57 effect of the propaganda (the children) were the sick kids created from the baby army?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQkIQuK7A50&feature=relmfu
1:35 (gowon on ojuku)
1:50 (profile)
3.20 deception of the people, they were not prepared for the war (went to war with guns and machette
He knew the process of war (blockage)
6.58 they went to battle with one round of bullet for defence
2 rounds for attack (that was suicide to me )





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7qQdZ9nzbI&feature=player_detailpage#t=44s

Katsumoto: Who is to say which structure is best?

Every society chooses a structure that works for it.

If you go back in time before the arrival of Europeans, most African societies didn't have widespread poverty.

Most of the ills in Nigerian society came with the forced union of differing cultures and structure of government.

now the issue at hand is the effect of the political system. across the sub saharan area, you'll notice a pattern of life style similar to that of the north. comparatively its a poor standard to me.
i choose to look up to something better to improve myself rather than something lower.

the problem i see with the north is simply, they have no middle class.
what sort of politival structure would address this issue of governance?

im really sorry for you guys,
when 200chickens and 10wolves are discussing whats for dinner.
i bet you, there would be enough, there would a take away and there would be reminants.

Katsumoto: Yes it can survive but it would have to make hard choices just the other parts of Nigeria.

Northerners are generally less materialistic than southerners and should be able to adjust.

Their simple and content attitude towards life, I admire greatly. The elite on the other hand will suffer.

hi,
their political structure is the root cause of their demise cum social cutural belief (the will of Allah) and religion.
they have an aristocratic system that does not allow middle class. i'll say its a lugardian style.
the elite does not beleive in the common man.

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”The reason for the decision of the British Government to amalgamate the two incompatible territories was
(b) purely financial or economic.[/b] The Northern Protectorate was not economically viable. It had become a great drain on the British tax payer. On the other hand, the Southern Protectorate was not just economically buoyant, it was producing surpluses every year. The British design was, therefore, to remove the Northern financial burden from its own neck and hang it on the neck of the hapless Southern Protectorate;
o according to Lord Harcourt, the British Colonial Secretary, unification of Nigeria demanded both "method" and "a man". The man was to be Lord Lugard and the method was to be the "marriage" of the two entities. According to Lord Harcourt:

[pre amalgamation
"We have released Northern Nigeria from the leading strings of the Treasury. The promising and well conducted youth is now on an allowance on his own and is about to effect an alliance with a Southern lady of means. I have issued the special license and Sir Frederick Lugard will perform the ceremony. May the union be fruitful and the couple constant".
Thus, in this "marriage", the North, right from the beginning, was to be "man" and "husband" and the South, the "woman" and "wife".
The use of the term, "Youth" (man) for the North and "Lady" (woman) for the South was not an accident, nor an exercise in humour. It was a deadly serious matter, with the game plan being to bring the two parties together in order to give the North political power over the South and permanent control over Southern resources.

British Cultural belief[
In the England of the time of Lord Harcourt, married woman had no independent existence outside their marriage. All the women's property and resources automatically became the husbands'. The woman could not enter into a contract in her own right. Her husband had to conclude all her contracts on her behalf.
Although this position altered by the Married Women's Property Act of 1882, Lord Harcourt had the Common Law position in mind when he decided to marry the young man without means, to the young lady of means. That latter was to provide the wherewithal for the former to live well and be master of the house for the rest of their lives. Omo Omoruyi has lamented as follows, regarding the devastating consequences of this marriage on the Southern lady of means::”

CLIQBOY: how? Explain beta please

that is the main reason for the amalgamation.
the south must finance the north.

i learnt she now speaks fluent german after her operation.

how far is this true.....
they said an Yoruba flew ojuku abroad when he was sick, while the Igbos were doing thier business.
an Yoruba paid his hospital bills when hospitalised and paid him a visit.
Igbos were busy making money.

when he died,
their hero died they all came for burial
thank God am not Igbo

abeg free these Igbo people
they are now biting the fingers that fed them.

How far is it true that Ojuku did a runner,
that he too all his belongings,( almost49 suitcases)
that he took some food supplies


The guy na ARIKU-YERI

The last war in the west was early to mid 19th century.
A general said after this war there would be no war again in yorubaland.
They moved everything standing, that which coukd not be moved was destroyed, that which could not be destroyed was burnt.

Since we learnt not to fight but be diplomatic was
One reason lord lugard did not fight or conquer and western town, all treaties were done diplomatically, but he knew their mind.
Ideology and leadership philosophy is wisdom, that is what keeps a nation.

securing his future interest (no freesbies)

............happen was that the vehicles carrying the food were always ambushed by the soldiers. That’s what I discovered, and the food would then be taken to the soldiers to feed them, and so they were able to continue to fight. And I said that was a very dangerous policy, we didn’t intend the food for soldiers.[size=14pt] But who will go behind the line to stop the soldiers from ambushing the vehicles that were carrying the food?[/size] And as long as soldiers were fed, the war will continue, and who’ll continue to suffer? And those who didn’t go to the place to see things as I did, you remember that all the big guns, [size=14pt]all the soldiers in the Biafran army looked all well fed after the war, its only the mass of the people that suffered kwashiorkor.[/size]


Even during warfare today, UN would ensure a safe passage for humanitarian supply gets to the needy by providing soldiers and guards, this is to prevent an hijack by the soldiers,
because there was no gaurantee of safe delivery the supply had to stop.
Notice the second bolded even the soldiers looked better than the civilians.

when the ugly devil raises his head you cut it fast and bury it.
End of story.

why this burden on one person, there was a meeting, someone was the spokes person on behalf of the group , why nail him for the speech.
why not gowon and others.

nna men

please the guy needs money, he's adopted the cheapest marketing strategy to boom sales.
In the last week, all media, tabloid, bloggers has been debating the book with variuou venom been spewed.

kudos to achebe.
more naira in your pocket.
Me, i hate fictions

whats the price

All these perceptions i'll consider to be ideological differences,
i see your reasoning, you prefer sugar lased sermons, when people says a knife is a small cutlas.
Boy we are in the age of globalisation, where no one is a custodian of knowledge.
What you consider bitterness is a differing opinion based on experience and exposure to another culture.

Even prophet muhammed in his days, they had a problem and he was consulted,
he told them to seek for him who has travelled out of thier domain. when asked why the referal? he told them the guy would have acquired a different education from their cultural environment.
those that fought for nigerian independence were those that returned from abroad in the 40s and 50s.
they was how things were done and refused to settle for mediocrity and slavery governance from the colonial masters.

All Naija based guys on this forum had a bad perception of the new traffic regulation, whilst its a norm for pple in diaspora.
Any way we'll get their.

Even prophet muhammed in his days, they had a problem and he was consulted,
he told them to seek for him who has travelled out of thier domain. the consulted guy provided them the solution, when asked why the referal,

[size=16pt]- Awo’s speech explained.[/size]-
(size=16pt]- The aim of a leader should be the welfare of the people whom he leads.[/size]- I have used 'welfare' to denote the physical, mental and spiritual well-being of the people. With this aim fixed unflinchingly and unchangeably before my eyes I consider it my duty to Yoruba people in particular and to Nigerians in general, to place four imperatives before you this morning.

Self explanatory
Two of them are categorical*.........
Definition: categorical- unambiguously explicit and direct
Simple English- clear
.........and two are conditional*.
Definition: subject to one or more conditions being met. A conditional clause or conjuction
Simple English- uncertain, unless something happens.

(Remember he said 4 imperatives (directions/instructions) and he goes on to name them)
1.Only a peaceful solution must be found to arrest the present worsening stalemate and restore normalcy.
2.The Eastern Region must be encouraged to remain part of the Federation.
3.If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then the Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation.
4.The people of Western Nigeria and Lagos should participate in the ad hoc committee or any similar body only on the basis of absolute equality with the other regions of the Federation.

Now he goes on to explain/ give more info on each instruction in his own words, but before we get onto that lets deal with point 3, the main point of contention by wept over modern day adolescent Biafrans.
3.If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission* or commission* to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then the Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation.

Definition: an act of omission is a failure to do something
Definiton: an act of commission is doing something
Simple English: If Eastern Nigeria is allowed to leave Nigeria, because of something that was done or not done, then the Western Region and Lagos must also be allowed to leave Nigeria and do what we want.

I would like to comment briefly on these four imperatives.
I said this was coming. He now comments on each one of them in his own words. Here you can better appreciate the meaning of his 4 imperatives.
1.Only a peaceful solution must be found to arrest the present worsening stalemate and restore normalcy.
There has, of late, been a good deal of sabre rattling in some parts of the country. Those who advocate the use force for the settlement of our present problems should stop a little and reflect. I can see no vital and abiding principle involved in any war between the North and the East. If the East attacked the North, it would be for purpose of revenge pure and simple. Any claim to the contrary would be untenable. If it is claimed that such a war is being waged for the purpose of recovering the real and personal properties left behind in the North by Easterners two insuperable points are obvious. Firstly, the personal effects left behind by Easterners have been wholly looted or destroyed, and can no longer be physically recovered. Secondly, since the real properties are immovable in case of recovery of them can only be by means of forcible military occupation of those parts of the North in which these properties are situated. On the other hand, if the North attacked the East, it could only be for the purpose of further strengthening and entrenching its position of dominance in the country.
If it is claimed that an attack on the East is going to be launched by the Federal Government and not by the North as such and that it is designed to ensure the unity and integrity of the Federation, two other insuperable points also become obvious. First, if a war against the East becomes a necessity it must be agreed to unanimously by the remaining units of the Federation. In this connection, the West, Mid- West and Lagos have declared their implacable* (overwhelming/unquestionable) opposition to the use of force in solving the present problem. In the face of such declarations by three out of remaining four territories of Nigeria, a war against the East could only be a war favoured by the North alone. Second, if the true purpose of such a war is to preserve the unity and integrity of the Federation, then these ends can be achieved by the very simple devices of implementing the recommendation of the committee which met on August 9 1966, as reaffirmed by a decision of the military leaders at Aburi on January 5 1967 as well as by accepting such of the demands of the East, West, Mid-West and Lagos as are manifestly reasonable, and essential for assuring harmonious relationships and peaceful co-existence between them and their brothers and sisters in the North.
Some knowledgeable persons have likened an attack on the East to Lincoln's war against the southern states in America. Two vital factors distinguish Lincoln's campaign from the one now being contemplated in Nigeria. The first is that the American civil war was aimed at the abolition of slavery - that is the liberation of millions of Negroes who were then still being used as chattels and worse than domestic animals. The second factor is that Lincoln and others in the northern states were English-speaking people waging a war of good conscience and humanity against their fellow nationals who were also English speaking. A war against the East in which Northern soldiers are predominant, will only unite the Easterners or the Ibos against their attackers, strengthen them in their belief that they are not wanted by the majority of their fellow-Nigerians, and finally push them out of the Federation.
We have been told that an act of secession on the part of the East would be a signal, in the first instance, for the creation of the COR state by decree, which would be backed, if need be, by the use of force. With great respect, I have some dissenting observations to make on this declaration. There are 11 national or linguistic groups in the COR areas with a total population of 5.3 millions. These national groups are as distinct from one another as the Ibos are distinct from them or from the Yorubas or Hausas. Of the 11, the Efik/Ibibio/Annang national group are 3.2 million strong as against the Ijaws who are only about 700,000 strong. Ostensibly, the remaining nine national group number 1.4 millions. But when you have subtracted the Ibo inhabitants from among them, what is left ranges from the Ngennis who number only 8,000 to the Ogonis who are 220,000 strong. A decree creating a COR state without a plebiscite to ascertain the wishes of the peoples in the area, would only amount to subordinating the minority national groups in the state to the dominance of the Efik/Ibibio/Annang national group. It would be perfectly in order to create a Calabar state or a Rivers state by decree, and without a plebiscite. Each is a homogeneous national unit. But before you lump distinct and diverse national units together in one state, the consent of each of them is indispensable. Otherwise, the seed of social disequilibrium in the new state would have been sown.
On the other hand, if the COR State is created by decree after the Eastern Region shall have made its severance from Nigeria effective, we should then be waging an unjust war against a foreign state. It would be an unjust war, because the purpose of it would be to remove 10 minorities in the East from the dominance of the Ibos only to subordinate them to the dominance of the Efik/Ibibio/Annang national group. I think I have said enough to demonstrate that any war against the East[u], or vice versa,[/u] on any count whatsoever, would be an unholy crusade, for which it would be most unjustifiable to shed a drop of Nigerian blood.

It’s funny how our NL Biafran soldiers love to quote this part but never deal with the vice versa part.
Definiton: with the main items in the preceding statement the other way round.
Simple English: “I think I have said enough to say that any war againt Nigeria (obviously by Biafra or any of it’s allies), on any count whatsoever, would be an unholy crusade, for which it would be unjustifiable to shed a dropo of Nigerian blood (Nigerian blood in both statements includes everyone).
Therefore, only a peaceful solution must be found, and quickly too to arrest the present rapidly deteriorating stalemate and restore normalcy.

2.The Eastern Region must be encouraged to remain part of the Federation.
With regard to the second categorical imperative, it is my considered view that whilst some of the demands of the East are excessive within the context of a Nigerian union, most of such demands are not only wellfounded, but are designed for smooth and steady association amongst the various national units of Nigeria.
The dependence of the Federal Government on financial contributions from the regions? These and other such like demands I do not support. Demands such as these, if accepted, will lead surely to the complete disintegration of the Federation which is not in the interest of our people. But I wholeheartedly support the following demands among others, which we consider reasonable and most of which are already embodied in our memoranda to the Ad Hoc Committee....
That revenue should be allocated strictly on the basis of derivation; that is to say after the Federal Government has deducted its own share for its own services the rest should be allocated to the regions to which they are attributable.
That the existing public debt of the Federation should become the responsibility of the regions on the basis of the location of the projects in respect of each debt whether internal or external.

That each region should have and control its own militia and police force.

That, with immediate effect, all military personnel should be posted to their regions of origin....

If we are to live in harmony one with another as Nigerians it is imperative that these demands and others which are not related, should be met without further delay by those who have hitherto resisted them. To those who may argue that the acceptance of these demands will amount to transforming Nigeria into a federation with a weak central government, my comment is that any link however tenuous, which keeps the East in the Nigerian union, is better in my view than no link at all. (This is from a man who supposedly hates the Igbos with Hitleric passion, may God forgive )

3.If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then the Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation.
Before the Western delegates went to Lagos to attend the meetings of the ad hoc committee, they were given a clear mandate that if any region should opt out of the Federation of Nigeria, then the Federation! should be considered to be at an end, and that the Western Region and Lagos should also opt out of it. It would then be up to Western Nigeria and Lagos as an independent sovereign state to enter into association with any of the Nigerian units of its own choosing, and on terms mutually acceptable to them. I see no reason for departing from this mandate. If any region in Nigeria considers itself strong enough to compel us to enter into association with it on its own terms, I would only wish such a region luck. But such luck, I must warn, will, in the long run be no better than that which has attended the doings of all colonial powers down the ages. This much I must say in addition, on this point. We have neither military might nor the overwhelming advantage of numbers here in Western Nigeria and Lagos. But we have justice of a noble and imperishable cause on our side, namely: the right of a people to unfettered self-determination. If this is so, then God is on our side, and if God is with us then we have nothing whatsoever in this world to fear.

4.The people of Western Nigeria and Lagos should participate in the ad hoc committee or any similar body only on the basis of absolute equality with the other regions of the Federation.
The fourth imperative, and the second conditional one has been fully dealt with in my recent letter to the Military Governor of Western Nigeria, Col. Robert Adebayo, and in the representation which your deputation made last year to the head of the Federal Military Government, Lt. Col. Yakubu Gowon. As a matter of fact, as far back as November last year a smaller meeting of leaders of thought in this Region decided that unless certain things were done, we would no longer participate in the meeting of the ad hoc committee. But since then, not even one of our legitimate requests has been granted. I q, therefore, take no more of your time in making further comments on a point with which you are well familiar. As soon as our humble and earnest requests are met, I shall be ready to take my place on the ad hoc committee. But certainly, not before.

And finally
In closing, I have this piece of advice to give. In order to resolve amiably and in the best interests of all Nigerians certain attributes are required on the part of Nigerian leaders, military as well as non-military leaders alike, namely: vision, realism and unselfishness. [i](all things you showed Baba, God will continue to bless your memory)[/i]But above all , what will keep Nigerian leaders in the North and East unwaveringly in the path of wisdom, realism and moderation is courage and steadfastness on the part of Yoruba people in the course of what they sincerely believe to be right, equitable and just. In the past five years we in the West and Lagos have shown that we possess these qualities in a large measure. If we demonstrate them again as we did in the past, calmly and heroically, we will save Nigeria from further bloodshed and imminent wreck and, at the same time, preserve our freedom and self-respect into the bargain.

May God rule and guide our deliberations here, and endow all the Nigerian leaders with the vision, realism, and unselfishness as well as courage and steadfastness in the course of truth, which the present circumstances demand. "

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why did he cross to west if he meant to secede?

taharqa: What did just write? I mean, wot were u trying to pass across? Except you have a problem with capitalism or the so-called 'Free' Enterprise System, then i honestly dont get wot u just wrote...if you answer is in d affirmative, then the onus wud be on you to provide an explanatn of the alternative system that you bliv can work in 9jaria

The economic system NOI is applying does not reflect our economy.
whaen you realise 2.5trillion in 6mths less oil revenue yet you borrowand raise bonds, thats questionable.
The JP morgan is just economic fairy, you hear the drums, you dance but dont see the drummers.

What you see currently happening is extreme capitalism.
robbing the poor to pay the rich.

Our economic gurus are text book techies.

who is now a silly nigerian.
cosmetic journalism.

taharqa: Stop behaving as if you are only talking to kids. And stop SHOUTING.

Virtually every bank in the US and Europe have been sued at various times( In fact, many of them are been sued or under ongoing serious investigations right now- ever heard of HSBC?). It is no longer news really; just comes with the territory, part of the game.

JP Morgan ,just like the others, would only be required to pay some fees if found guilty shikena. The West would not watch any of their main Banks/Financial go under( Lehman Brothers wahala ring a bell?), lailia. That's one of the reasons when people act as though the West is clean( in terms of corruption or what they call 'deals') some of us laugh

PS: This does not mean the the terrible levels of corruption in Nigeria( both govt and general society) is not a major clog i our way as a nation, and must be tackled o.

you are a typical nairalander, you write, then think.
in the future you think, then write.

what economic system is NOI giving us, not the failing ones we are seeing.
its been failing since just recently it came into limeligt.
you love this HIV economy, i , i hate it with all my strenght.
like i said before, in 2 years time the whole investment would be wiped out. WATCHOUT.

breaking news

JP MORGAN sued in America for defrauding investors (tues, 18:31)

naijs go buff your face