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You betray an understanding of how parliamentary politics work. There is a big difference between a political alliance and cross carpeting. In 1960, Balewa's NPC did not win. A coalition between the three major parties could form a governmet. Are you saying Zik's NCNC crossed-carpet then to NPC? It was simply an alliance. You cross-carpet when you denounce your original party and assume membership of another party.

You also betray an understanding of Independent/AG or Independent/NCNC. The independents here were AG or NCNC members who failed to secure the nomination of their parties at the primaries. The parliamentary constitution allowed them to contest as independents. The AG-independents secured 15 votes. If you add that to 38 AG votes, AG was a clear winner. That was not cross-carpeting. That was not an alliance either. Those 15 AG-independents remained faithful to their party. AG did not actually need the IPP or Etu-Edo to form government. They already secured the outstanding majourity needed to form a government anyway.

About 12 years ago here in the UK, Ken Livinstone, the ex-mayor of London was not selected by his labour party to contest the mayoralship of london. He chose to contest as an Independent. He won. Ken Livinstone was re-admitted back to the labour party after he won. That is not cross-carpeting.

The Liberal party of the UK retain their identity even though they are a junior partner in a coallition British government. If they reached an agreement with Labour at the last elections, they could also be a junior partner in a coalition government with labour. That is not cross carpeting.

Maybe you should start taking some Odeku to fix your miseducation about parliamentry system of government. Quote | | .

You betray an understanding of how parliamentary politics work. There is a big difference between a political alliance and cross carpeting. In 1960, Balewa's NPC did not win. A coalition between the three major parties could form a governmet. Are you saying Zik's NCNC crossed-carpet then to NPC? It was simply an alliance. You cross-carpet when you denounce your original party and assume membership of another party.

You also betray an understanding of Independent/AG or Independent/NCNC. The independents here were AG or NCNC members who failed to secure the nomination of their parties at the primaries. The parliamentary constitution allowed them to contest as independents. The AG-independents secured 15 votes. If you add that to 38 AG votes, AG was a clear winner. That was not cross-carpeting. That was not an alliance either. Those 15 AG-independents remained faithful to their party. AG did not actually need the IPP or Etu-Edo to form government. They already secured the outstanding majourity needed to form a government anyway.

About 12 years ago here in the UK, Ken Livinstone, the ex-mayor of London was not selected by his labour party to contest the mayoralship of london. He chose to contest as an Independent. He won. Ken Livinstone was re-admitted back to the labour party after he won. That is not cross-carpeting.

The Liberal party of the UK retain their identity even though they are a junior partner in a coallition British government. If they reached an agreement with Labour at the last elections, they could also be a junior partner in a coalition government with labour. That is not cross carpeting.

Maybe you should start taking some Odeku to fix your miseducation about parliamentry system of government. Quote | | .

lesson learnt from this,
nigeria needs employee empowerment ie right to refuse work.
bosses would think twice

how?, he fit?

Obiagu1: The main reason 1906 amalgamation was shielded and still being shielded from any debate is that it brings to light the fact that Yorubas were neither Southern Nigerians nor Northern Nigerians, hence non-Nigerians. Being who they are, they have craftily shielded that part of history, rather everyone lambastes the North, want them cut off from Nigeria, call their amalgamation with others a mistake but no one lambastes Yorubas.

I commend them for the good job they've done so far and some silly Igbos cannot see the bigger picture. Yoruba came from no where, Awolowo immediately started calling for creation of states for minorities because the then Lagos or Yorubaland had no minorities. When they succeeded in creating confusion, next was to try alienate the Igbo from their fellow Southern Nigerians by manufacturing all sorts of lies, distort history etc. Yet some silly Igbos have not asked, are Yorubas really Nigerians? What is their stake in this country?

How would someone that is not a Nigerian say Igbos claim other people all in the effort to create a division in Southern Nigeria they were not part of but thanks to that infamous 1906 amalgamation. How would the Igbo be claiming a part of their country, be it Southern Nigeria or Biafra

we give thanks to lugard for bringing you guys together, he relieved you of village life and clandestine life.

the east was the first and easiest to conquer so you got the name first. alas it was coined mid 1890s, so 10 years after it became reality.

just waiting for fasola to cough, make them catch cold.

PointB: lol. We are still saying the same thing. After the talk between Rochas and Tinubu, I bet you Tinubu will be the first to renege.

Where you not here the other day, when Fashola argued against amending the constitution in favour regionalism. A position actively canvassed by other Southern groups

commoners from both regions are stupid.
tinubu and rochas can disagree on issues and still find a common ground. What binds them is money.
Stop your headache

its not possible for lots of plebs on nairaland, but let Tinubu and okorocha sit and talk dollars and oil and toast champagne, afterwards they'll say they can all go join Abacha.

Obiagu1: After this, next debate should be:

[size=30pt]1906 Amalgamation - A Historical Mistake?[/size]

You discussed this for almost a month before.
let it rest.

Mr. Globe:
dont mind that 7th housewife. free education indeed but 70% of Yoruba people over 60 years living in yorubaland can neither hear or speak English. Awolowo was a fraud.

Who is the OGBUEFI OF LITERATURE

its a global issue, if its not bad, its no news.

the traffic law would eventually create law abiding citizens in nigeria.
Get use to it then you habituate and it becomes your xter, thats the process of becoming a good citizen.

He needs leadership training from the king of otuoke

Former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has been handed a four-year jail term for tax fraud

Nigeria was designed to be run down, a nationalist or regionalist cant save the nation.
Collective effort of nigerians by defining our objective and means of achieving it would save us.

my thought.

After the 1959 elections, when no party won absolute
majority, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa wanted a
continuation of a national government as was the case
before the election. Chief Awolowo would not hear of
it. He wanted the Action Group and the N.C.N.C. to
team up against the North. He said he was prepared to
serve under Dr. Azikiwe but not under any Northerner.
Those of us who were not rabid Awoists wondered what
transformation had taken place in Dr. Azikiwe's person
since he was chased out of the West by this same
Awolowo, who now wanted him to lead the whole country.


The only explanation that made sense to us was that
Awolowo did not believe in a Nigeria that did not have
him as Prime Minister. It was clear from the mood of
the times that if the East and the West had teamed up
to form the federal government, the North would have
justifiably opted out of the federation. An alliance
between the West and the East against the North would
be nothing short of the South replacing the British as
colonial masters of the North.

It is inconceivable that Chief Awolowo did not see
that implication, so the only conclusion that made
sense was that Chief Awolowo would rather dissolve the
federation than be part of a country in which he is
not the leader. His implication in a coup plot for
which he was found guilty and jailed did nothing to
disprove the contention that all he cared about was
his personal ambition to rule the country or part of
it.

At the time when negotiations were going on to form
the government that would usher in independence, Dr.
Nnamdi Azikiwe described himself and his party the
N.C.N.C. as the beautiful bride being wooed by the
other political parties. There would have been no need
for anybody to woo or be wooed if Chief Awolowo had
not set his mind against a national government.

The N.C.N.C. accepted the suit of the N.P.C. and
received as dowry the right to consume Western
Nigeria's share of the national cake even though it
did not represent the people of Western Nigeria in the
federal parliament. The N.C.N.C. discovered after
Awolowo's political incapacitation that Chief S.L.
Akintola was a tougher nut to crack than Chief Awolowo
and decided to make the West ungovernable for him.

The assassination attempt on Professor Biobaku was in
line with the operation wetie" mayhem going on all
over Western Nigeria in which human beings were being
doused with petrol and set ablaze. Those dastardly
acts were being perpetrated by Yorubas, but the
perpetrators, their organizers and co-ordinators were
being funded by the government of Eastern Nigeria
under Dr. Michael Okpara, according to intelligence
reports available to the Western Nigerian government.

I heard and saw these reports available only to the
innermost caucus of the N.N.D.P. I did not belong to
that inner caucus, but as Press Secretary to Chief Ayo
Rosiji, master planner and Chief strategist first of
the Action Group and later of the N.N.D.P., I had
access to the Sanctus sanctorum of Chief Akintola's
N.N.D.P. and government. Also for the fact that I was
only twenty six years old, a civil servant and
slightly built I was ignored like a fly on the wall
and things were laid bare in my presence just as women
would UnCloth in front of a one year old baby boy.

Also in those days of N.C.N.C. financed mayhem in the
West, Premier's Lodge, Ibadan was like a refugee camp
overflowing with men, women and children who had fled
their homes, towns and villages for dear life.

There was no privacy for anybody including the
Premier Chief Akintola himself to grab some fresh air,
breathing space and a snatch of private conversation,
Chief Akintola and Chief Rosiji would get into the
back seat of my two door Saab car and I would drive
them around the back streets of Ibadan GRA and
sometimes park by deserted roadsides while the two
leaders discussed affairs of state which I found quite
revealing and educative.

One of the issues discussed in my car was a proposal
allegedly made by Chief T.O.S. Benson that the
N.N.D.P. should organize its own operation wetie in
Lagos to hit back at N.C.N.C. interests and personnel
in the federal capital. Chief Ayo Rosiji dismissed
that course of action saying any disorderly act in
Lagos would be counter-productive as it would draw the
ire not only of the targeted N.C.N.C. but also of the
federal government and every other Nigerian, seeing
that Lagos was Nigeria in microcosm.

On that occasion, I was not destined to merely
eavesdrop; I was drawn into the conversation.Chief
Rosiji said that he had made contact with the
President of the Ibo Youth League and he would send
him to me and together our task would be to destroy
that body and use the fragment to carry the fight
right back to Chief Michael Okpara in Enugu and the
length and breadth of Eastern Nigeria. The prognosis
was that if Chief Michael Okpara* s tail was set on
fire he would be so busy trying to put out the flames
that he would not be able to continue formenting
trouble in the West.

I was also given a story to surreptitiously leak to
the Press. It concerned the attempt to remove Chief
Festus Okotie-Eboh as Federal Minister of Finance and
replace him with Chief K.O. Mbadiwe. When the Western
Nigeria share of the Federal cabinet was allocated to
the N.N.D.P., the number of N.C.N.C. Ministers was
reduced from eight to five with Chief Okotie-Eboh as
the only non-Tho N.C.N.C. Minister in the cabinet. The
N.C.N.C. had believed that with its representation in
the federal cabinet reduced, to place the important
Finance Ministry in an Igbo hand was a desideratum; in
other words, Chief Festus Okotie Eboh not being an
Igbo man was a second class N.C.N.Cer.

The N.C.N.C. requested Sir Abubakar to reshuffle the
cabinet so that Chief Okotie-Eboh and Dr Mbadiwe
could swap places. An enraged Chief Okotie-Eboh with
the solid backing of N.N.D.P. ministers strongly
opposed that move. Chief Akintola took it upon himself
to go up North and appeal to Sir Ahmadu Bello to
prevail on Sir Abubakar to reject the N.C.N.C.
request. The refusal of Chief Okotie-Eboh to surrender
the Ministry of Finance to Dr K.O. Mbadiwe was a sin
so grievious in the opinion of the N.C.N.C. that he
was killed alongside Yoruba and Northern leaders in
January 1966.

When I called in some officers from my ministry to
help spread the story of the N.C.N.C. pertkiy on Chief
Okotie-Eboh, one of the officers, Stephen Ojo,
confirmed to me that Chief K.O. Mbadiwe had already
announced to Pressmen that he was soon to replace
Chief Okotie-Eboh as Finance Minister.

The failure of that move caused Chief K.O. Mbadiwe
considerable loss of face and did nothing to alleviate
his feeling of contempt for Dr. Michael Okpara whom he
had described as the rural Bende bumpkin without
the national credentials necessary to lead a great
party like the N.C.N.C. Most devastating for the
N.C.N.C. was that Chief Okotie-Eboh and Dr. K.O.
Mbadiwe, the N.C.N.C. s most prominent ministers in
the federal capital, gravitated towards the Sardauna
as the one person who could make or mar one's fortune
in Nigeria*s political arena.

At the same time, a group of young men came to me in
my office. Their leader introduced himself as Emeka
Chikwendu, President of the Ibo Youth League and those
with him as the members of the League's executive
committee. They said they had come to pledge their
support for Chief Akintola and praised the good work
he was doing to restore balance to the tottering
foundation of Nigeria*s unity. They acknowledged that
the turmoil in Nigeria was caused by the Ibo elders'
attempt to deny the other Southern tribes their place
in the sun. They expressed disappointment at Chief
Awolowo's leadership pattern and drew a contrast
between Zik's diplomatic handling of the rebellion of
Mbadiwe, Nwapa and company to Awolowo's fight to
finish duel with Chief Akintola.



http://www.dawodu.com/agbe1.htm

i think some of the issues related to the message



“It became common practice for Yorubas to be denied
appointments, to be denied promotion and to be
superceded by officers from other tribes who were less
qualified or experienced. When Yoruba civil servants
cried out, Chief Awolowo's response was that he would
share in their suffering by refusing to collect his
remuneration as the Leader of the Opposition in the
Federal House.

Before Independence, the federal parliament was Chief
S. L. Akintola's turf where he performed the duties of
Leader of Opposition intelligently and effectively
with a joviality that earned him the love, respect and
admiration of a wide spectrum of Nigerians cutting
across regional, tribal and political boundaries.



. The N.C.N.C. had the wrong
but widely accepted notion that Chief Awolowo was the
only power to be reckoned with in the West and with
his departure, they (the N.C.N.C.) could just march in
and take over.

It therefore, came as a great shock to the N.C.N.C.
when every notable Yoruba leader rallied to the
support of Chief S.L. Akintola. Yoruba political
stalwarts like Chief Richard Akinjide, Chief
R.Fani-Kayode, Prince Made Lamuye and a host of others
saw in Chief Akintola the type of leader the Yorubas
needed and decamped from the N.C.N.C. to join him in
the NNDP. Even Chief T.O.S. Benson, a national Vice
President of the N.C.N.C, after a brief hesitation,
also crossed over to accept Chief Akintola's
leadership.

Akintola's legacy was that he reconciled Yoruba
leaders who were considered irreconcilable under Chief
Awolowo's leadership.

When Chief Akintola's N.N.D.P. took the Yorubas to
their rightful place in the federal government, Chief
Ayo Rosiji became Federal Minister of Information,
Chief Richard Akinjide became Federal Minister of
Education, Chief A.M.A. Akinloye was Minister of
Industries, other Ministers I cannot quite remember
their portfolios were Prince Made Lamuye and Victor
Lajide.

The N.N.D.P. Ministers mentioned above represented a
bridge between the federal government and the core
Yoruba elements of Western Nigeria as against the
Lagos Yorubas whom Chief T.O.S. Benson and Chief J.M.
Johnson catered for.

When Chief Richard Akinjide took over the Federal
Ministry of Education, he was presented with a list of
nominees for award of federal government scholarship.
Ninety Eight percent of Southern nominees on that list
were Igbos; the Yorubas, the Midwesterners, the Efiks,
the Ibibios, the Ijaws, the Kalabaris etc shared the
remaining two percent.

Chief Akinjide rejected that list and ordered the
compilation of a more balanced list. A majority of the
Yorubas and other non-Igbo Southerners who benefitted
from federal government scholarship awards that year
had Chief S.L. Akintola, the N.N.D.P. and Chief
Akinjide to thank for their good fortune.

During that period of Akintola's N.N.D.P.
participation in the federal government, the tenure of
Professor Eni Njoku as Vice Chancellor of the
University of Lagos expired, Professor Saburi Biobaku
was appointed to succeed him. The N.C.N.C. raised a
deafening yell of tribalism and financed students to
raise hell and mayhem in the course of which Professor
Biobaku was stabbed in an assassination attempt.

At that time, there was a profusion of eminent
scholars and educationists of Southern Nigerian
origin. There were two federal government universities
in Ibadan and Lagos. Professor Kenneth Dike was Vice
Chancellor at Ibadan while Eni Njoku held court in
Lagos.

An equitable sharing of the national cake would have
prevented a situation where these two federal
universities were manned by persons of the same tribe,
moreso as Professor Saburi Biobaku was as good if not
better than the incumbents at Lagos and Ibadan
universities.

It was not as if Chief Biobaku's appointment would
have made Eni-Njoku jobless. Professor Biobaku had
been released by the Federal Government to go and head
a university in East Africa and Chief Eni Njoku was
only being redeployed to take up the East African job
so as to give meaning to the principle of federal
character which is still in our constitution as I
write.

It was these acts to give the Yorubas their fair share
of federal patronage that made the Ibos block Chief
Akinjide's nomination into Alhaji Shehu Shagari's
cabinet and he had to be presented a second time
before he got the approval of the Senate:”

alj harem: my guy words/sentences like bo.oby-trap, you are in serious trouble, joking with 3 years jail term etc Haba

what happens if you are caught in a one way road.
i thinks its just a fine, whats the freedom thing for?

Lagos needs fumigation and fasola is just doing that

Before amagamation of nigeria it was norhtern nigerian and southern nigeria.
After the amalgamation it was northern nigeria and southern nigeria.
Now its still northern nigeria and southern nigeria.

Southern nigeria should think and find a way out of the entrapment.

that na training ground

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let me know if that will works for you.

are you based in china.
whats your price for items from china.
how do you deal with FOB items and agricultural goods from china to nigeria.

achebe was right, chest beater.

search this forum. a guy wishes to give newbies hands on in his bakery

one day for you another day for me

Lagos, August 8, 1967, 1700Z.
/1/Source: Department of State, Central Files, POL 7 NIGERIA. Secret; Immediate; Limdis. Repeated to CINCSTRIKE/CINCMEAFSA, London, Enugu, Ibadan, and Kaduna

American cable
As evidence Ojukwu's desperation and perfidy, Gowon showed me photostat of document which purported offer Rothschilds of France exclusive exploitation Eastern mineral resources including petroleum for ten years for six million pounds. CAS reporting this in more detail.

PDP dosent care about governorship election.
its presidential that matters.
Gov election LP
Presidential PDP.


Everyone knew that.

drunk on achebe brandy

thats the age or season of our civilisation.
That was Europe 200years ago.

Paul John: Not Again.

All the ups and down this prof has been making over war that took place over three(3) Decades ago is not going to add any advantage or bring out the actualization of his dream.
Seriously, all these will only create more disparity and stir up hatred.

No one is wishing history to die, but mehn this man is getting it wrong.
He's a prof and not a casual noise making chief for goodness sake.

Upon all the hatred he's claiming his people are getting from Nigerians, his people are allover the S/West States even the North living happily and making their cash.
His people claimed they own 50% of Lagos, 90% of PH and 60% of Abuja. With all these claims, no one has challenged them unjustly.
What else do they want?

Their are lots of younger generation of his tribe born, schooling, working and living happily in S/West, not even thinking of visiting their home states without having any difficulty.
This prof should please calm down and not fill minds of younger people with his tribalist mentality.

no mind prof,
na publicity stunt, he no pay kobo for marketing on the book and its all over the media. My concern is for those dying while prof dey make money.

ndu_chucks: You have nicely pointed out the fundamental problems which make Nigerians their own worst enemies. Most people know what these problems are and this thread is full of ideas regarding what needs to be done. Given everything you've described, would you be kind enough to itemize how we go about resolving these problems, if you are able to do so?

Pointing out our problems and the reasons why we have them without suggesting non theoretical solutions or practical ones, in my mind, adds no value to the discussion whatsoever.

What are the solutions and how do we implement them effectively, and in the near future?

like someone said on this thread, we need a benevolent tyrant. A good tough minded person that can take the bull by the horn.
must be wise --- it takes a wise man to counsel a wise man. so you can imagine the executives and judiciaries.
must be temperate--- strike balance between the doctirne of mean ie not too much not too little
honorable----- dare to do what is very difficult.
he must be just, not just doing the right thing but knowing in himself they are right.

the number one problem is self awareness and to determine purpose in life.
if you can understand purpose in life then you can extend to your family, the community and the nation at large,