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@Emma MSC, i wouldnt debate much go straight for GOLD which is Durham University,
Emplyers deny it in this country to their back teeth but will say it among their colleagues who are the same stature in society,
The Brits SNUB people from Non red brick Universities, They also pick and choose who to give interviews to according to the University you went to and of course your classification but believe me your University Name speaks VOLUMES!

Durham is world renowned University, where the elite go to, my cousion did her Masters there,
Nottingham is another very good University but I would go for Durham still,

good luck

Sagamite:
^^^ Thanks, babes.

In regards to League Tables, the Guardian one is just rubbish and I totally disregard it.

And I normally disregard any criterium that is of no relevance to intellect of student or research achievements of institution.

Even the criteria I decide to regard, I still have to re-evaluate for likely loop-holes e.g. Average entry scores or biase focus. I think it will have made sense to have average entry scores for the top 80% or 90% of courses as some universities offer courses that cannot request high grades. Also some league tables are too focused on Science and hence a world class institution like LSE is not even in the top 30 globally, which I know is a fallacy.

I totally agree hun!! The Guardian disappointed me to be frank, I dismissed their league table a while ago when I saw The University of Manchester drop to the 30's, I knew then their version of Achievements or criteria used to assess Universities were and still is garbage!

But some people still know better,

@ sagamite, i love to see a person who is well informed and able to make and observe things in an intellecual way,

Growing up in the UK my Dad hammered the 'british' mindset and system into me to ensure I knew the cream from the crop,
red brick universities as they are called are basically the oldest founded universities, hence why Oxford and csmbridge will remain the TOP DOGS they were the first universities founded in the UK and are world renowned,

I wont go into league table because I believe there has been some foul play going on with Former Polytechnics or Colleges popping up above elite known redbricks universities such as the likes of Manchester, Liverpool and DURHAM!

However, people who know better will be able to pick out the redbricks without referring back to the league table, it can sometimes be highly deceptive,

Thanks sagamite for enlightening people about important issue which will help people choose correctly for future benefits!

Thanks for that, but im uessing there is a typo on that timetable since at the end it says Orientation camp batch B?

Where did you get that information? Ive been on the website looking for the batch c dates for registration almost everyday,

@ hotstepper so Batch C is for sure confirmed?
I too have to travel for my NYSC this year, My grandmothers death has only confirmed it is a MUST i go back for registration for Batch C in abuja and her funeral,

I think i will just go ahead and book tickets to arrange myself and then when oreintation camp starts I'll come back to start it,

skeed19:
My people,
i tell you of a truth, i cried yesterday when i saw a girl whose parents bearly fed well, dressed with half of her bosom outside, the trousers she wore is such that the furos of her buttocks was out, with beads, and a terrible scaring make-up, and i heard the mother saying, have a great day my sweet daughter.
My people have you observed how our children have gone mad with dressing? some they call show me your bosom, low-weast, hot bosoms, etc, please who is to blame for this societal stigma, that has brought about a moral decadence in our society? sometimes u even see some old women dressing in a seductive manner, please whats all these odd dressings for? parents, teens, youths, please comment. Who si to blame? the parents, society, peer pressure, etc, who?

The parents are to blame. Simple.
If I had a 10 year old dressing like that, abi i go siddown watch am?

Parents need to start from day 1 but unfortunatly when the kids have already grown thats when they think they can start with the morals talk,
Too late, damage has been done
YES, society and peers can be an influence but not if you have parents who have taught you and shown you otherwise.

ada24:
Lady dee I seriously understand what you are saying about schooling in the UK but remember we grew up here and turned out well, i can speak the same for my siblings. I personally do not want my child that i am carrying now to grow up in London maybe a nice area outside London in one of the surrounding counties but definitely not London.

Like you said the rot in the society in this country is so bad that i am scared that no matter how good my parenting skills might be the rif raf they meet at school will have a negative effect on their education and behaviour. If my child was to spend anytime in Nigeria (which will probably happen as my husband lives there and has so far been a bit too adamant on this topic for my liking - anyway different topic) they would def not be a boarding school pupil and i must be in Nigeria with them.

I would love to emigrate to another country not quite sure were thou - that promotes the family more than the individual.

ah my school days - i remember being very good at sport and my PE teacher always putting me forward to represent the school - trust typical Nigerian parents - they actually wrote a letter to the teacher saying that the time i will use to run is meant for studying and they didn't send me to school to run and throw a netball in a hoop - LOL.

the careers one was just too funny cos i was actually smart enough to see thru the nonsense - my parents always instilled in me "u gotta work twice as hard as oyinbo to get to the same level as them". When I was picking my degree course it had to be either one of the good old naija parents standard, law, engineering or accounting for me. (They knew I was too lazy for medicine!!)

only the future can tell if my stay will have a negative effect - but my experience was not pleasant and have no idea why people were so jealous especially the girls.

I completely understand ooo, trust,
I think the idea of outside london and outskirts such as kent surrey etc would be good,  I lived in Kent borderline London most of my life and as bad as at is, it was my dad's personal choice to live in a predominantly 'white middle class' area, 
I love it there no headache, no police sirens, just peace, 
Kai! You reminded me of my secondary school days, my dad advocated to get high grades in everything but PE was play time as he called it, 
As for the jealous tendancies you said girls back home had for you, it happens anywhere and everywhere,
Yes, i experienced the same thing with even my cousins,
But i always kept my comments to myself when remarks were made to my face,

Till one day my aunt made the most nonesense comment I ever heard to my cousins in front of ALOT of people,

quote, ', ehhhn, ekwy (my igbo name) you will dash your cousin something now since your staying with her on the univeristy campus for sometime, dont you know your better than her!!'

My cousin is 3 years MY SENIOR!! I was on holiday and wanted to spend time with her at her uni in enugu at the time,  
I immediatly saw RED and put it to her in what way was i better? Its only timid illitrates with inferiority complex that think that way!
She didnt take it lightly after my insult,  long story short My dad sided me and everyone looked at me different from then on, im no longer the British cousin to be jealous off,

Its intimidation, so you have to show your also up to par and have the balls to reciprocate that intimidation, 
They think your naive and not so exposed because of how u may have lived in the UK, you show them u get sense pass dem sef,
They will respect you for it,  and realise your not so different,

OMO IBO:
Na wa ooo

I vaguely remember skimming through the other thread but did not take note of it's content cos i wasn't interested in pregnancies. But what stuck to me was threadstarters rather 'interesting' comments about Nigerian hospitals. Now, i use 'interesting' loosely. Honestly, i somewhat agreed with her and wondered why she was being attacked.

Fast forword to this thread - I believe threadstarter deserves every bit of 'attention' she is getting. I can't seem to understand the need to travel by all means to have babies in the US, Uk and/or Canada.

The above comment by blank smacks of apocalyptic desperation.

Sadly, blank and threadstarer are not the only ones who'd want to do this.
There are tons of women in Nigeria who'd still want to travel later during pregancy.

My advice: if you want to have your baby outside Nigeria, PLEASE make adequate arrangements and travel earlier during pregancy and not hop on a plane when in labour.

I agree totaly on the desperation part,
when i hear such things i feel ashamed for them, na by force to belong or get citizenship in a white mans land?!

Shiooor, i tire for the whole situation sha

funkybaby:
what is she cooling down for? i am totally in support of busybody and chemali on this issue.

if you had seen what the lady wrote on the thread at travel section, you would have had your own share of harsh words for her.

seun/the mods were also disgusted that they had to delete the entire thread. now tell me, how often do threads get deleted (not locked) on nairaland, how much more the travel section

Come ooo, tell me something, what really happened.?

Come to think of it as long as i've known and been on NL they dont delete threads much if at all,

ada24:
lady dee - love your story and have to say u are so right about how teachers here push the black kids to lower unis or degree subjects.

my example being when we had a careers day way back in the 90's when i was 16 (man i feel old) i picked up the law and accounting sheets to see what GCSE's and A levels i would need to study these courses - u will not believe what i am about to tell you but the sheets were taken from my hands and i was given the sheets about hospitality and the care industry. I will never forget, and to top off the insult i was in the top set for all my subjects so its not like i was in the bottom group with the foundation maths dumbos.

anyway i grew up in the UK and was sent to naija after my GCSE's i have to say it was an experience and maybe did me good but i hated it there - the jealousy i got from people was terrible. My feelings towards my stay in nigeria could be down to where i was but i have to say that i would not wish what i went thru on my worse enemy. Hard to adjust from growing up in the suburbs in north london with a mix of friends from different backgrounds and then having to live in the eastern part of nigeria - lets not start on how till this day i just don't get the mentality of my own people at times.

I think it is very important to instil our culture in our children but then the good aspects and not the borderline silly ones. I personally would not like my child to spend any aspect of their education in Nigeria for various reasons that i don't have time to mention here but i feel it is important they visit home often. Children brought up outside Nigeria can also be well behaved and cultured.

but i'm loving the stories here

My dear, i hear you,
Those that didnt understand the underlying statement teachers were really trying to say would nodd and follow,
I knew better and would tell my dad sharp sharp, We would laugh about it and rubbish the teacher!,

I thank god for my parents,

@ ada im not sure what exactly your situation was when you scholled in 9ja, but i hope it doesnt have this negative effect on your future generation,
Personally I will NOT allow any of my future children i may have do secondary school in the UK,
I may be among that generation where things went completly wrong and downhill with gangs, shooting and stabbings, but fortunatly, i had parents i feared so would NEVER try anything stupid else na die be dat!
So i wasnt among the bad crowd, But it seems today things are going from bad to worse I dont advise anyone send their kids to the UK for secondary school, I think going to school in 9ja (a good one of course) would benefit them in so many ways,

I dont see the point in nigerians going to so called greener pastures to have their kids,

UK put a clampdown on it, ur child WILL NOT get citizenship, simple
The USA are doing the same its even more difficult , the difference between the US and UK is the USA will slap you with the bill there and then,
You wont move an inch till you pay the balance! It happened to my cousin, my advice fell on deaf ears ,

When will nigerians get it into their heads that thw West do not want foreigners anymore!!

Im running back home away from the fire, but nigerians are running into it, Na waooooo

Manofsteel:
Ayo84
nice info.
Not that anyone will listen though.

Unfortunatly innocent desperate people will listen, as long as people like AYO continue clqiming nonesense,

@ poster I beg you in the name of god, go to a specialist in infectious disease, they will surely assist you,
That old stigma of HIV being a death penalty is slowly diminishing, People live till old age with the correct Antiretroviral drugs etc,
Please do not be deceived by opportunists and money hungry goats that dont have your interests at heart only your MONEY!!!

ayo84:
who said there is no cure for hiv/aids

we have all been decieved by media, WHO, pharmeeuctical companies,mainstream media, its a global conspiracy
if you do research on google and youtube , you will come across controversial information surrounding HIV/AIDS

the cure for diseases like cancer,aids,tuberculosis,malaria etc it's so easy,simple primary school science,the thing is all these diseases are highly profitable "disease" for Big Pharma,pharmeucetical cartels and the medical community. these diseases are so profitable ,that there is absolutely no interest in finding a cure.

the simple cure for hiv/aids,cancer etc lies in the fact that viruses,bacteria , disease causing organism cant stand oxygen

Unlike our healthy human cells
that love oxygen, most of the primitive bacteria and viruses, including
HIV and others found in cancer, AIDS, Ebola, flesh eating bacteria, chronic
fatigue, tuberculosis, arthritis, and a long list of other diseases are like
most lower life from viruses and bacteria that can't stand oxygen. Bacteria
and viruses are almost all anaerobic. "Anaerobic" means these microbes
cannot live in oxygen
What would happen to the primitive anaerobic viruses and bacteria that
cause disease if they were to be completely surrounded with a very energetic
form of pure oxygen for a long time? What if enough of this special
form of oxygen (O2), or its higher medical grade form called "ozone"
(O3), were to be slowly and harmlessly introduced directly into the body
day after day, every day, over the course of several months, by high concentration
methods that usually bypass the lungs, and yet saturate every
body cell with oxygen? All the disease-related, or disease-causing, bugs
and microbes that can't live in oxygen also can't live in oxygen saturated
body tissues and fluids. See how simple it is? It's amazing you were never
told this.

all we hear is anti rectoviral drugs

KAI!!!! JEHOVAH!!!

PEOPLE LIIKE YOU ARE KILLING OTHERS IN 9JA!!
YOU MUST BE VERY STUPID FOR REGURGITATING THAT GARBAGE!!!!

This is how innocent people are contracting the disease innocently thinking they have been cured!?
Your here spouting so called scientific knowledge you probably copied and pasted to confuse person wey not get sense abi?
What you explained means NOTHING! God forgive you and you stupidity!
God dey sha,

Mehn its sad but true, I had alot of asian friends in school who planned on doing this in Yankee before their 'arranged marriages',
They got up to so much hanck panky

I hate tattoos!!!

Especially on so called Ladies!!
I think its tacky, classless and not sophisticated at all,
But my hubby is bent on getting one when I have a baby,
We'll see about that,

Well, as for me I think growing up abroad has done me good and opened my eyes to alot of things,

I was born and brought up in the UK - London/Kent area,
I am the eldest of 3 girls and both of my parents had done A-levels and furthered education at 'red brick' universities in the UK,
Both my parents had very good jobs and my Dad was a buisness man and frequented Nigeria alot (he now lives there permanently) will get to that later

My Dad was a consultant working in the Government, he studied law and politics as his major and my mother is a Project Manager in the Social sector, she studied business admin as her major.

I have always felt and still feel I was a blessed person to have parents like mine, my dad is a very well informed person who knew the system in the UK well and the Nigerian system like the back of his hand and he made sure he installed this into all 3 of us growing up,

When i say well informed, i mean with regard to education, culture, the british attitude etc, 
So no silly teacher could tell me or advise me NOT to apply for UCL but go the South bank or kingston university!!!
Rather I would advise them to stick their silly advise if I felt they were talking garbage or trying to deceive me,  Racism is not in your face in the UK as Germany is,  They are much more cunning and subtle if your not careful, 
In particular in school I noticed how teachers would encourage the not so bright caucasians to go for the prestigious rec brick universities e.g. UCL, Manchester Uni, Edinburgh Uni, Aston, Bristol but when it came to the few Ethnic minorities  they would advise for the old polytechnics e.g. hertfordshire, kingston, south bank,  the list goes on, 

So in this respect I was well prepared and never easily influenced by so called 'teachers advice'.

My mother ensured we all were in the kitchen when she was cooking from a young age and when she felt we were of age would designate us to cook things and supervise, 

So from a young age I was cooking both Western Dishes and Naija dishes,  I always took pride and loved cooking so their was never any need in forcing us to the kitchen

We entertain alot due to the nature of my dads work then and now,  so my mother has never been restricted to cooking on nigerian dishes since when she came to the Uk she has english parents who taught her alot of the english dishes, italian and some asian dishes,
There was always variety in what we cooked and we learnt how to do it for the future,

I am a daddy's girl and from a young age travelled back with him alot when he went on his business trips so this gave me the opportunity to know where I was from, my family and culture,
I started travelling from a very young age, and over the years started travelling back home on my own,

My parents had been in the UK for over 20 years and my father has reached a point he felt he needed to pave the way for us to have the opportunity if we wanted to come home whenever we wanted,  He also felt he had reached his peak in his career and people didnt want him to go any further.  As a black man he had already gone too far for their liking, 

I have never had an interest in dating or even thought of ever marrying anyone that was NOT Nigerian, 
It was always inevitable that I would marry a Nigerian, so my dad never worrieed about that,  My sisters on the other hand are not as exposed as i am so are a bit more liberal, 

I ended up marrying an Igbo Nigerian guy who happened to study here and I wanted to go back home desperatly PERMANENTLY and he also wanted the same because i feel the UK has not as many opportunities as people think,
I went to a good private school I studied at a Very Good University and got a Good job in a Known worldwide Pharma Company but I am not satisfied and never have been, 


Theres only so much u can do in the UK before you realise  you have hit  a plateau and you WILL not go any further here, i speak from experience,  The society will NOT allow you because you are not like them,

If ive learnt anything it would have to be there are opportunities but they are limited for 'foreigners',
I know where I am from, who my people are in Igboland, understand it and can speak a little  , i know our customs and traditions and couldnt be more proud of it, 

THIS is what my parents hammered into us from birth,  So I dont see any of us being a lost person in the society, 
So I dont think being raised abroad has done any of us harm,

Akosbaba:
These guys are going to be the first set of africans to create new words in the dictionary

No we are not! the grammer BOTH men are blowing are just words even the middle class/upper class British English people do not use,

dlox01:
i think YOU have a long way to go. Just coz you dont understand what they say does not mean they are not correct/or speaking crap. To people that understand its music to thier ears and a joy to watch but to people like you its difficult and i think you should go upgrade your skills then you can place such a comment because you are the one that is ignorant
you analyse it, they understand you(1) understand themselves(2) understandz himself(3), u basically understand yourself(1), just step up!!!

Wrong again! i agree with the initial statement, as a public speaker and a representative for your state/country you should be clear and FULLY understood,
Meaning use laymans terms for the common people to comprehend the message you are trying to get across, otherwise, you stand the risk of confusing people with unnecessary grammer!!

Would your grandmother understand what this man said, or maybe your aunt or uncle?  
Even the highly educated will be a little confused as to what he is on about!

Unfortunatly, some 9ja people feel the need to blow grammer to say something so simple and to the point and end up making a fool of themselves in the process, it doesnt show you are smart or HIGHLY EDUCATEED, it shows you have a lack of understanding in the art of communication in particular with the public, hence you cannot EVER properly engage with them because they NEVER understand you.

The 'normal' working class Nigerian would not have know 'culpability' meant responsibility or lugubrious simply meant sad, Yet Obahiagbon felt the need to use such words! He is showing his weaknesses instead of his strengths,

yvyy:
whats d buzz about KFc ,its at city mall onikan go pay a visit if u like it good if u dnt like it and cant afford it pls cut your coat to your size.i think their price is good and i love their chiken and chips.i also love their packaging.

it ought to be a good thing that Kfc saw nigeria as a place that will broaden their market.

Exactly!!
Im sorry to say i was just discussing this with my dad who just came on holidays to the UK and fast food chains in 9ja are not of great standard,

KFC franchise is a great idea in my opinion,  There opening more restaurants all over Abuja too,

Im just happy they saw Nigeria as a viable and condusive place to expand business.
Let other Western companies see this and do the same, before you know it people wont see the difference in 9ja and western countries,

Up 9JA!!!!!

@ OP

Im sorry you've found yourself in this situation, However, I will say this, You sound confused, angry, betrayed and have alot of hate in you, its understandable,
I will advise you use your head, you cannot blame all those so call 'white biatches' as you put it when your husband messed up,

Ask yourself this:

Knowing full well you just had a baby recently why is he out clubbing?Why was he not at home being the supportive daddy he should be playing?
Or enjoyment cant be at home with the wife and kids anymore or what?

Why did it take for the mistress to threaten him before he confessed he could be a father elsewhere?

I cant say for sure if it really was a one night stand and nothing more than that, Men sometimes feel admitting it only happened once is better than admitting it went on for months on end,

Im not advising you to separate or divorce, Im just leaving questions for you to answer yourself, dont deceive yourself and blame others, everyone is responsible for themselves and their actions,

If the mistress had it planned to trap him, she must have seen something in him that gave her that impression and he was silly and weak enough to fall for it, I repeat he is responsible for his own downfall,

Food for thought, i wish you the best,

SA Lady:
^^^true talk. But then again what is this single woman doing, hovering around her married friends house even go to the extent of agreeing to cook for her husband? Is she crazy? What nonsense is this? Doesnt she have a life? I mean really. She needs to get her own man to cook for and one that can lust for her. Yes she is a friend in need but ya'll need to establish boundries.

People not everything is in the book, so its okay if you dont read much because sometimes you can just rely on your common sense

I am actually annoyed at these two nonsensical girls.

TRUE TALK ON BOTH ENDS!!! Both woman aren't making sense to me,
What kind of agreement to get a friend to cook for ur husband is that?

violent:
chei!. . things Igbo men will do for money

Kai! Its a shame you cant read,
Illiteracy and ignorance is a disgusting disease,

As for the akwa ibom man, may god forgive his stupidity and evil doing upon his own Niece!

Yinkaboy:
Ibori is not a fefugee, and any country has the right to deny asylum seeker Becomrich0, the host country decides who meets the criteria.

The US and Uk, have allowed there citizens to deported or extradited to other countries. It often happens to dual nationals in terrorist cases. Where they believe there is better evidence, or that they will be dealt with more harshly.


Its a good thing he is being deported to the UK. Ibori will stand as a warning to Nigerian politicians, there`s no country you can run to. The US will block you and family from entering the country (Aoondaka), Dubai will deport you, the UK will jail you for fraud, SA will beat you, the EEFC will hound you to your last breadth.

Look at the Abacha case in Swiss also!

EXACTLY! ibori commited serious crimes in the UK, #
The evidence is in the UK
Prison is waiting for him in THE UK,


I eagerly await that blessed day!!!!!
He must follow his sister and mistress,

1212:
i will hate to think i am. I'm not even trying to start anything with him cos 7 yrs is a longtime and we have both changed i just wanted to see if theres any point in resolving the past

Ehhhn, so what do you really want then?

Its like your begging for something to be there when there is absolutly nothing!
This is how homewreckers start!

Comot eye from dat place and stop the guy from seeing you

What is the need in him visiting you by the way?
Didnt you know the saying
old fire wood catch fire faster

Im sure he knows it, hence, the unnecessary visits,

Use your head, because he is definetly using ur own!

Sounds like a Home wrecker in the making,

HIV!!!

HIV is real!! E no dey show for face!

Do the right thing jare,

reality:
Is not possible, for a lady to be nine good months pregnacy without some signs!

Come bros, you be woman?
Not every woman has the so called normal signs of pregnancy,

Not everyone suffers from nausea, some woman still have their monthly flow, some woman dont even show bel :ole!
Not everyone will add weight.

I have a friend who was 8 months gone and u could hardly see anything.
Some people's stature will determine whether they show or not,

mutter:
Yes black men marry for papers. Desperate situation desperate solutions. Blame your German government. After all when Europe colonised Africa did you marry our women and men to stay there. Now after exploiting Africa you are kicking against the few Africans that come there to do mostly hard labour jobs.
What causes the break up of these marriages in Germany. How can you marry a man and have children for him, when you have no regard for his country culture. When you think you are better than him because of your colour. When you have no respect for him and want him to forget his family.
How can you say you can`t understand them on the phone But your English is good enough to communicate in a forum? That just shows the kind of person you are. Why you should call her mama and ask after her. Your husband is mad because you do not respect them or regard them as in laws. You think you went to the bush to pick a monkey you can keep in your home in a cage?
If you want your marriage to last then treat it as a marriage. Decide if you are a wife or the owner of a monkey

You deserve a round of applause!!

WhiteOne:
Good for you if you have a good job and good for all the other people in your company, too.

And yes, my husband where stop by the british police here in the uk and was ask for his documents and he was born here.

And what about the brixton riots back in the eighties?

What about the current stop and search politic.

You write it yourself you are born and bread in the UK.
You are the second generation!

There are black germans, too. Still living in Germany in the second generation.

Yes, my dear compare Germany with England.

And you know what, please ask any Nigerian, who has lived in Germany about it.

A lot of people will tell you German might be better than England in some things like housing, like education and craftsmenship.

Talk to people of the first generation and you might gain a new view.


It upsets me to see people always talking about the great USA or the great UK.

Who is living mostly in the inner cities?

And what and how does the press and the TV reports about certain groups.

Anywhy you are 25 years old and your are living your UK/Nigerian live.

You can not understand what i am writing about anyway.

My husband were coming back from Lagos to London last year and he was asked a lot of stupied question in Heathrow.

And I was asked in Heathrow last year, how come my best friend daughter is with me in German over Christmas and does her mother gave me permission to take her to Germany.
This was on your way back to London.

It is so uncommon this a German with to mixed rase kids can take an other black teen along.

No worries! Life goes on.

Dont need to ask about german and uk life, i was talking about racism and the OP's choice of what she might need to look into in order to clarify certain issues,
U diverted into housing
You dont need to educate me in german healthcare, housing etc, I know which is better and im not ignorant of it,
Being aked abt stuff is different from being beaten, or did they beat you? or strip you and violate you?
Please stop with the patronising, I was born here and into the system i know how they operate

It upsetting you when there talking about the great UK or USA because e dey pain you germany no dey dere among dem,
Ignorance is bliss.

@OP I wish u the best in your endeavours and your family,

oyinbo pepper if e eat pepper you go yellow more more

Yep for light skinned nigerians,