Akanbi_edu:

Poster is a PDP agent laying the ground for 2015 already! This is their trademark.

Anywhere they go, they don't tell people their achievements, they tell people about tribes, religions, etc

Igbo 90% of Niger republic, muslim 70% of Imo state, fulani are Malians, while you are at each others neck, busy with the confusion created, they are coasting home to electoral robbery/victory .

But no problem with SW'ners, they have tried this before it didn't work, it WILL never work.

Man mi dont take the poster serious at all , just play to the gallery. People who believe in the thread will never appreciate what you are trying to explain. Just get your humour from it and move on

If you are not an ACN member you cannot dictate what ACN does. If ACN decides to field Remi Tinubu so be it. You have a choice in Voting for NCP, Action Alliance or APGA if you want.

Arosa:

Is Chris Ngige a muslim?

Cant you see his beard ?

step1:

Those of you clamouring for Remi Tinubu 2015, I just want to make somethings clear. There is absolutely no way Remi would be the governor of Lagos state 2015 and beyond because she is not qualified and also corrupt like her husband Tinubu. The reason I and millions of lagosians can tolerate tinubu now is because of one soul called Fashola. Once that person is out of ACN that is it for them. Gbawe and Eko-ile, I just want to explain to you people that you are jokers and I am sure you people are not serious of Remi 2015. I mean what insult.

My father is a PDP member (an ACN defector) in Lagos but my family still voted for Fashola not because of his in ACN but because we like the man and it is for the progress of the yoruba race. Now bring Remi is just taking it too far, just too far. Let me just make it clear to you people if Remi becomes the Governor, people would take to the streets and the state will become ungovernable for her and her family.

I would advice those that are non-indigene of Lagos at that time(non yorubas) to go to their fathers land because "head go roll" and there will political killings and blood shed like no other in the SW especially Lagos. I am sure we do not want to lose everything we have worked for over the years. It is annoying to see well educated young men encouraging "godfatherism" absolutely shameful.

Nothing will happen if Remi becomes governor, no head will roll.

We want Remi in 2015 as ACN candidate.

gernded:

The governorship must come down to Mushin and it must be SOLOMON OR BANIRE

Oh Zoning even exists in Lagos

EzeUche__:

Is ACN a Muslim only party?  

Is the SW becoming Islamicized?

Yes it is

SENATOR REMI TINUBU FOR GOVERNOR 2015 !!

Please join the campaign now and let us start to work for her candidature.

Gbawe:

This is the point . She can run , in the spirit of democracy, but I don't think she will get the ticket ahead of other who can be sold to the electorate far more efficiently than Remi Tinubu. There are folks with good administrative skills who are actually working with Fashola directly. Tinubu chose someone who worked under him (Fashola) he could trust to carry on the good work and consolidate on success achieved. Fashola too will have a say , because of all his good work, or there will be serious problems for Tinubu of the type that saw Ogun PDP implode to the benefit of ACN.

Paddy mi   , we want Remi Tinubu in 2015 . We Lagosians want her ! Fashola would not deprive us of our choice, Fashola was picked so he has no moral right to stop Tinubu from selcting who he wants. Fashola would try to influence who succeeds him but i think he will fail as long as he is in ACN.

We want REMI TINUBU

gregg2:

The man has an agenda to islamise South West. One way of achieving that is to install
muslim governors in all SW states. The fact we have Raji Fashola (Lagos), Sen Sanusi I Amusun (Ogun)
Rauf Aregbesola (Osun), Senator Isiaka Ajimobi (Oyo) etc was deliberate. Tinubu never see any good from an 'infidel'
christian. The only christian ACN governor, Kayode Fayemi (Ekiti) might just be marking time and would soon be replaced
by a muslim governor. Tinubu is not different from Buhari.

Did you forget that Adams Oshiomiole is also muslim?

Gbawe:

Lagos Politics is complex now and will be even more so in 4 years time. Fashola is growing in prominence and will probably have a say in who succeeds him. I just think it is too simplistic to assume Remi Tinubu can just walk into the job. Nonetheless , it is her democratic right , or that of any one else, to vie for political office . That is what I am pointing out . Personally I think there will be organised Primaries ,in the ACN , for the Lagos guber ticket. With Lagos , ACN must show a modicum or democracy or risk voters backlash. Remi Tinubu , in comparison to others, will simply not be deemed a good enough successor to fashola IMO. I don't think she can ever be an acceptable choice even with Tinubu's clout.  

I want Remi in the seat in 2015 , i think it will be a great idea. Why would she not be accepted by Lagosians, if it is the same lagosians in a sentorial district that voted her into the Senate. Fashola will only have a say in who succeeds him, if he leaves ACN. As long as he is in ACN, Tinubu rules, Tinubu has the party strucutre in his hands.

A LCDA chairman in Lagos has to get the nod from Tinubu before he is given the ticket. The LCDA chairman controls the LG ACN chairman who in turn controls the Ward leaders , who in turn delievr the wards for the party in conjuction with the NURTW guys (glorified Agbero). Remi Tinubu for 2015 is a wonderful idea and would be a good candidate for ACN.

Tinubu should please follow the steps of the clintons. Thenext 4 years will be hot in Lagos as there will be clashes between Fashola and Tinubu again but Fashola will never have control of ACN Lagos. We want Remi Tinubu in 2015 please!!!

I am wondering myself. Jimi has maybe retired from active politics , otherwise i see no reason why he did not contest for a senatorial position.

me

Buhari is a man I love for his integrity, courage and selflessness. He is one of the only tiny people in Nigeria who can stand the test of time when it comes to abuse of office and issues relating to corruption. Buhari is a man whose words could be taken to the bank and the only other person i have this kind of respect for was Gani Fawehinmi (May God bless his soul).

Buhari should be completely detached from what some youths did in the north, Buhari went on TV stations to condemn the violence, to distance CPC from the burning of churches and killing of corpers. However, the PDP led govt and GEJ supporters used the opportunity to score cheap political points by heaping blame on Buhari. Buhari lost in 2003 riots never broke out, Buhari lost in 2007 he never called for riots.

The youths felt cheated by their elites of which they suffered the biggest loss, emir of Kano and Zazzaus palace were burnt which has never happened in the north. PDP muslim hausas politicans houses were burnt like Ghallin Naaba, Bashir Tofa, Alh Galdima in Kano. The elections were rigged in the north SS and SE.

Christian youth also razed muslim villages in Kaduna and thousands were displaced in the process. The blame i put on the doorstep of the FG who is saddled with the responsibility to provide security for Nigerians.

The riots started as a pure political issue and how it turned to burning of churches i have no clue. This is the problem when millions of almajiris have been left without good education. The chicken is coming home to roost and if the northern elites and FG do not start massive education for their children the worst is yet to come.

For the Peoples General I support him 100% but we have lost the election and we move on to strategise for 2015.

OGD get ready to face EFCC, Ebora owu go make sure he finishes you. Omo inaa ni aa ran si inaa

Congrats to all that made it happen.

Oyo state will be very interesting in the next 4 years because there will be healthy competetion in the state which is what i like. One party dominating a whole state is not particularly a good catalyst for governance, although in some cases it can work well. Oyo state has acord party, PDP and ACN in the house of assembly which makes it interesting as issues will be debated thouroughly and the governor will always be kept on his toes which might translate into good governance.

Good news !! and the future is very bright.

Congrats to all that made it happen

ACN should not dissapoint the SW populace because PDP is lurching in the corner ready to punce on any mistakes.

seanet02:


Olodo!!

Buddie, respect yourself and  the above is needless. I dont trade insults here with anyone and you have every right to disagree with my view but insulting me is a bit low. Have a good day though  

No land can be wiped off the surface of the earth. The land is Gods land and has been there before the creation of man and will be there until God decides to roll it away. Israel as a country with its current borders is not right and if the wiping you refer to is wiping the borders of the current state of Israel away from the current map then I say yes. The statement actually said by Ahmedinejad was “Israel should be wiped off the MAP” but many commentators have twisted it to mean “off the earth” which has no meaning.

The state of Israel can exist and have a right to exist but as long as it is on the 1948 borders that was drawn out by the UN in 1947. Any additional borders is stolen land that has to be returned. However, the Palestinians have accepted for Israel to move into its borders of 1967 but the arrogant state of Israel does not want to.

Never, we shall free Lagos from the shackles of Tinubu in due course.

Oba mewa Igba mewa lo ni ile aiye , it is his time now but very soon it will someone else and a better person God willing.

I am talking based on the current political dynamics, i am not basing my statement on wishful thinking.

ACN has no viable structure in the northern part of Nigeria, ACN has no viable structure in the SS . If a northern candidate emerges , the north would vote for him and if a SE candidate emerges as well the SE will vote. ACN can never win any presidential election in this country except it goes into an alliance with another party.

ACN fielded a northerner in Ribadu and could not get up to 800000 votes in the whole of the north out of a possible 18 million who voted. How will Fashola a southerner win an election in the north without a strucuture on ground. The mistake most of us in the SW especially make is that we see the world from our perspective alone . The same way Buhari could not make in roads to the south will be the same way Fashola will not make inroads into the north.

Let us put perfomance aside because , the Nigerians we have today will not vote based on perfomance . The independent minded voters who vote based on perfomance do not win an election rather it is the lower echelon of the society that deliver the votes that win an election.

2mch:

The boys scout uniform is hilarious. But yes, i support this. He will win it, def.

He cannot win the presidency under ACN as it currently stands.

Gbawe:

Buhari fans are full of vitriol, bile, rigidity, lack of acommodation/tolerance for others and a distinct lack of moderate views/utterances so no surprise at all . Carry on.

Haba Gbawe , why do you have to attack us like this. Most of us have issues with ACN based on bad practices in the party and nothing more . If these practices are stopped not a few folks would be happy to associate themselves with ACN as well. It is wrong IMO to paint people like that especially when the disagree with views based on principles.

One thing i find amusing is that many people here on NL look at issues from a southern point of view only and it us all about Buhari and the other CPC guys need to form alliance and work with guys down south. One thing we forget as well is for ACN to win any presidential contest in this country they need to forge alliances and work with popular politicans in the north which is Buhari and whomever he supports.

It is a two way thing and we need them just as they need us. For the credible poltiicans in the north to work with ACN, ACN has to stop the bad practices they practice and the influence of Tinubu whittled down.

gokuu:

@lagosboy: how many 'average' people know sanusi? Adeola built a popular bank like GTB and yet no one recognized that, ribadu pioneered EFCC, yet no one recognized that, Buhari is an anti corruption champion, but the northerners voted for him based on sentiments, gani fawehinmi was a champion 4 the masses, yet he was roundly rejected at the polls! Point:95% of voter vote on sentiments and not pedigree/qualifications, even many educated people are highly sentimental, if fashola vyes for presidency, he'll get only 'yoruba' votes, all the PDP has to do is present a strong northern politician and a 'sullivan' or a 'soludo' 4rm the SE,even the igbos in the SW will vote 4 a SE candidate, if sanusi goes to the polls, he'll lose to 'a sule lamido of jigawa'. In Nigeria, nobody is interested in your achievements, rather they want u to either have; 'a good heart', 'goodluck', 'GOD sent', 'going to school without shoes', 'can u smile', 'how many presidents have your region produced', and so on!

Of course I know this and I agree with you that if SLS goes to the polls today he will lose in a big way. I have only given a postulations and it all depends on SLS himself. If he decides to run , he then needs to become a politician full time and start to play the game of politics in order to rally support and build a political base. This was the mistake Ribadu made and it was in fact naivety coupled with hasty ambition on Ribadus part. At the age of 50 he is no longer a boy or youth and should have had the patience to build a structure in his base before forging any alliance with anyone.

revomind:

On point.
I never really supported the idea of people who are largely untested in any real administrative capacity coming out all of a sudden demanding for the Presidency, Why should people like Fashola , Amaechi, Duke serve as vp to people like Ribadu and indeed Sanusi? Why? Who is more experienced? Or is handling a govt agency a tougher task than governing a state?
I do not understand Lagosboy's postulations at all. Is it acceptable for neophytes like Ribadu and Sanusi to aspire for the highest office with better and more experienced peeps like Amaechi to be Vp because they are from the north? Even Dora Akunyili has a better resume than these guys.

For me, Fashola and co would be really dumb to accept such a platform. This is one of the reasons southerners just didn't want to know whatever Buhari was bringing to the table. That 'born to rule' complex is what the core north would do well to get rid of.

As for Ribadu joining the CPC, I think it would be a bad move. He can leave the ACN if he feels hard done but we should note that a candidate who couldn't even win his state was always gonna be a hard sell. People are rushing to cast aspersions on the party leadership without considering that this is *ng* and that Ribadu could as well have been paid off by Jonathan. The CPC brand is damaged here in the South justifiably or otherwise.

When we debate please it is better we avoid being carried away by sentiments. How can you say that what pedigree in terms of administrative capability does Sanusi have. Is being the governor of CBN Nigeria (with 150 million people) administering trillions of Naira and being in charge of the country´s economy a secretarial duty ? I have not devalued Fashola in any way and I stated in categorically I have put that postulations in the context of a northern president in 2015. Sanusi is probably the first Nigerian to address a select committee of the US congress, one of only two Africans to be included in the Time 100 influential people 2011 and you call him a neophyte.  I can only see one sentiment in your analysis which is tribalism otherwise what has “born to rule “ got to do with our discussions here. I am no northerner but I acknowledge bright minds wherever they are.

In fact what pedigree did Fashola have before 2007 , if your kind of analysis is correct then bright minds will never have the opportunity to show their capabilities, what administrative pedigree did Ameachi have before 2007 , last time I checked he was only the speaker of the house before that. Please objectivity is really needed when we discuss the progress of Nigeria.

Saying Dora Akunyili has a better resume than Sanusi is a crime against intellectuality.

ekt_bear:

Pretty much. That is my sentiment. Running Lagos on a $3 billion budget is arguably the most demanding elected office in Nigeria. Even more so than being president.

I don't see why who gets top billing in any alliance should be off the table, when it comes time to negotiate.

Core North needs to learn from the mistakes it made this past cycle and be more willing to give and take.

Of course i have not underated Fashola in anyway , i have only put in the context of having a nothern president in 2015 which is most likely except GEJ runs again which is also likely.

ekt_bear:

Pretty much. That is my sentiment. Running Lagos on a $3 billion budget is arguably the most demanding elected office in Nigeria. Even more so than being president.

Dont let us get carried away here. It definately cannot be more than being president of Nigeria. Haba !

ekt_bear:

Why exactly is anyone expecting a SW/North alliance in 4 years with the SW taking VP?

If GEJ is performing well, what incentive do we have to accept only VP?

You'll have to deliver a lot more than that.

I am not a proponet of zoning but it think it will be extremely unfair for the south to produce the president again in 2015. I know GEJ will contest again but having a Northern president should be the ideal thing IMO.

Gbawe:

Tinubu is a minor consideration as per what we all want i.e a Nigeria that is making progress. As for Sanusi, you will have to wait for him to signify an interest. Not all great footballers make the transition to great coach.

very true , it all depends on him , i am only thinking of those who can take Nigeria to the next level.

ekt_bear:

The CPC brand may be irrevocably tarnished in the south. Not clear to me that joining it is his best bet. We shall see, though.

Regarding accept/reject election results. . . perhaps he is still gathering information. He is under no pressure to immediately respond.

I really dont think the CPc name can be damaged like that in the south. If PDP as bad as it is can win an election in this country with 22 million votes, i personally think with good governance of CPC governors and progressive minded guys at the helm of affairs things will go well for them.

The PDPs objective was to damage the CPC brand anyway and they acheived that amongst shallow minded people in the south of the country. Anyway time will tell.

One man i Pray joins politics is SLS, I so much wish after his term expires he joins politics and contests for the 2015 election. Ribadu and El Rufai should work with him and Buhari should endorse him.

SLS with a deputy from the SW like Fashola will perform wonders for Nigeria. Maybe Fashola himself should leave ACN and join CPC midway into his 2nd term tenure. That will surely leave tinubu in the lurch.    I hope i havent touched a nerve in Gbawe 

Gbawe:


Lagosboy, the bone of contention was that Ribadu was wrong running on the platform of the PDP. I disagree . He has to learn lessons in politics and some of those lessons may be harsh but necessary to develop the mentality that makes some men winners. Ribadu joined the ACN because he believed that the ACN is not about Tinubu alone and , from what we can all see, I can see he was right to think like that . Fashola , Fayemi et al enjoined Ribadu to come on board and you cannot fault Ribadu for listening to those type of folks. He may have fallen short this time but things not working out politically is not reason enough for us to start concluding folks made the wrong choice . Adversity that comes out of the choices we make can shape us for greater future success.

Bro, you will make a good spin doctor , i remember Alistair Cambell and Balir at the iraq enquiry right now   .

You have put it in a very nice way , but let us not use sugar cover am. What really happened was that Ribadu dioscovered ACN was all about Tinubu and his head was shaven in his absense. Like i said from the begining , he made the wrong choice of which events have proven and Ribadu himself has confirmed by seeking his political future elsewhere.

Gbawe as an ACN guy i think you should sincerely work within the party to effect chnages in its internal culture, there is a limit to where the current culture can take the party to. I am only giving constructive criticism and i hope the powers that be in your party listens. People are not foolish and cannot be taken for a ride for too long , Nigerians forget too soon and all the good works of a politician can be forgotten in one day as a result of a bad political move. Ask Lateef Jakande who is still the best governor Lagos has produced.

This was my comment last week on the thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-649066.0.html#msg8153396

Ribadu has been severly damged politically and the earlier his supporters realise this the better. It will do him a lot of good to perhaps join CPC and start to build a base of his own in the north as some people in the SW might always accept him. He needs to shake off the Tinubu stigma now in order to bounce back stronger.