@Gbawe

Do you see that Ribadu has more or less taken the advice i was giving on the other thread last week. Remember i told you that for Ribadu to be relevant in Nigerian politics, his future lies in another party and not with Tinubu.

Ribadu is hurting and feels betrayed by the ACN top dogs, I am happy he is thinking of joining Buhari and El Rufai in CPC. Even if he does not contest in 2015 at least he will be able to build a base for himself in the north.

I still insist his adventure with ACN was a misadventure and the only thing posisitve he gained is the hard lesson he was taught by Tinubu and his boys.

Remember i told you if you ever had the opportunity of speaking to Ribadu in private he will tell you he felt betrayed and within 1 week my assertion is coming out to the public domain.

This news has vindicated me bro, and I am sure you can see it clearly.

I think the thread below has confirmed all my initial analysis on this issue. If the news is true then I have been vindicated.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-652104.0.html

@johnnie
Good you remembered Etteh, wabara, salisu Buhari,

Ribadus only political asset has been taken away from him by Tinubu, Ribafu has no money to launder his image, Ribadu will be left with no party apart from CPC, Ribadu needs to come out and be honest on hi misadventure and Nigerians might perhaps forgive him and accept him in 2015.

Where are my fellow "progressives". If this news is true then I think I have been vinidcated. I have said it from the onset that Ribadus adventure was an expensive gamble, I admired this guy before but could not understand his alliance with Tinubu, now he has been taught the biggest lesson in politics.

I have predicted that his future relevance in poliitics lies in dissociating himself from Tinubu and perhaps joining his friend El rufai in CPC where they would both slug it out on who would contest the 2015 presidency. If you ask me though, I would prefer SLS as presidential candidate of CPC in 2015.

Ribadu has gained nothing from this adventure except ridicule and exposure of his political naivity, dent on his anti corruption image and worse still exposed as a political paperweight who needs to build a political base, Ribadu could not win his ward which I screamed out before the elections that he could not win his ward and should have stepped down much earlier. Looking back I believe Attahiru Bafarawa would have performed better in the elections when compared with Ribadus performance.

Maximum respect to this man. I just cannot forget the bigotry spewed on NL in aug 2009 when he started his reforms. Within just 18 months the whole world is acknowledging his intelligence and courage. Only if we shed the religious and tribal bigotry in us as a people would we ever progress to a level we deserve.

Buhari if given the chance as well would have people acknowledge his administrative and leadership skills after a short time. Most of us only see issues through our prejudices and different sentiments.

I would want to see SLS in Aso rock in 2015 running under CPC as his 5 year tenure ends in June 2014 he will have 1 year to spread his ideas. He has the intellect, passion and a nationalist who is never blinded by tribalism.

oncolor:

For someone who published a book titled "Nigeria: Dancing on the brink" in November of 2010, I would take anything he says with a pinch of salt. How else will you justify your book and improve sales if not to perpetuate the "Dancing on the brink" theory.

We should be objective in analysis and pick holes in his analysis and not his person per se. I dont see anything wrong in what he wrote here, in fact everything tallies up with what we hear in Nigeria and the results released. He gives us insight into how rigging is done at collation centers which is the truth.

Jarus:

I can take up the challenge, but the reason I have been so hesitant is that I have a no of groups I coordinate, which has not been easy for me. I've got a lot in my hand already - my primary job, moderating NL, coordinating one or two other groups, writing/public affairs commentary, attending to personal issues etc. All these for a young man trying to set his foothold strong. That's why I've been footdragging in initiating this. But if someone else is ready to take up teh challenge, I'm more than ready to support.

I dont mind taking up the challenge but , I am based abroad at the moment and a good number of us are based abroad as well. However i think we could work out something, someone from Nigeria and someone abroad. There other BB groups abroad which we can invite . I understand we have to make things happen on ground in Nigeria and screaming from the diaspora does not make any grassroot impact.

I will sleep over it tonight to see how we can work this out , others please feel free to drop your suggestions.

Well , the dynamics of Nigerian politics have changed forever!!

Gbawe:

Lagosboy, check out everything I have said displayed in this thread from Jarus:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-650934.0.html

There is no need for tears or frustration. Nigeria has turned the corner . We simply need to apply more united pressure on misrule until it becomes the exception rather than the norm. The article in consideration even highlights what I have stated continuously that , with time , folks will understand the enormity of what the SW has done that will be a template for others . This is why I am not sad or "frustrated" that GEJ won. If opposition political leaders begin to do the right thing to highlight challenge and accost misrule , Nigerians , will follow them to accost the misrulers .

I agree that the SW has done well by voting out the rougues. What was more pleasing to me was the SW elections were largely free of the sophisiticated rigging in other regions. It gives me hope that younger ones can win election without a god father if they have the clout, money and brain.

If CPC can get 3 to 4 states in the north on saturday and develops these statesin 4 years the other PDP states wil fall like a pack of cards.

I agree with this 100% . Saturday , the youths should please do us afavour by voting out Yuguda, Shema, Yakowa, Nyako and the other looters.

Organization now is the key!

mbulela:

in the absence of success for such a bill, what even stops them from refusing such a soulless monthly salary for the duration of their term as NASS members?
i have said it before and i repeat,our only hope lies in this coming NASS.
if it is biz as usual, we are finished.Like my SA people say, finished and Klaar!

I dont think the people in NASS ACN, CPC or PDP will do it unless the people power is used in pressurising them to do so. We have to stage continous protests at the national assembly for this to be done. As a matter of fact it is not just their salaries but the money that is allocated to them in the budget is what has to be slashed.

They can cut the wages by 80% and pay them selves in other ways. We have to stop them from allocating above a certain amount of money for themselves

There is only one thing all the discussions point to and it is the northern elements working with the SW poltiicians, if i will strecth it further CPC working with ACN again for 2015. Can this happen ? or will ACN do it alone building strucutres in the north and CPC will come down south building structures.

I think it would have been better if both parties fuse into one to form a more national party with a national outlook. However personalities of the leaders of both parties and interest might never make this happen. What then is the way foward ? Which direction should we be working for 2015 on the national stage. ACN has no storng presence in the north and likewise CPC in the SW . This is what i think we have to ponder on because the opposition spoke for 3 years preceding 2011 and all talks of mega party led no where. This is not time for the blame game but trusts have been eroded and i am wondering how this will work out for the future.

ekt_bear:

This, I don't understand. How do we know it was better than 2007? We don't know what happened. GEJ probably won, but we cannot say for sure. How is that a good election, when you cannot say definitively who won

We may find out after investigations and forensics are done that it was a good election. But as for now, we simply have no fricking clue.

I had a long discussion this evening with my girlfriend over dinner about this. She didn't get it at first. . until I explained it to her using the analogy of the Gore vs. Bush elections in 2000. Yet rather than questionable voting in a few counties within the state of Florida, MASSIVE rigging in fully 1/3rd of the states in the nation. When I told her that, she was flabbergasted.

If I urinate in your borehole water supply, will you want to drink that water? Small amounts of contamination can corrupt the process utterly. Yet Nigerians seem willing to drink water from this filthy supply.

Big sigh . . . you are right .

We have been brainwashed to be contented with mediocrity

Akanbi_edu:

El-Rufai is making the same mistake BB made. I pray he learns fast, he is an intelligent guy anyway.

I supported Buhari though even though the lapses (politically) were there. There are some assumptions the BB ticket made which are very wrong

(1) They assumed generality of nigerians hated corruption, many Nigerians are not even aware what corruption was or how bad the situation was. majority don't even know the damage PDP is doing to them.
(2) They assumed that the large crowds at rallies will translate to political movement. No, they are not the same. the crowd actually looked like mob to me only useful for revolution and not politics because the political and election process is a very complex one. Bakare even thought they CPC were the one with the upper hand.
(3) They see things as black and white, this kind of idea is only fit for the mosques and churches, it doesn't work in the real sense. You just have to make compromises and deal with even people you don't like.

@Lagosboy, I think you are too emotional with these issues, it doesn't get anywhere. It will only lead to frustration.

I agree with the 3 points you raised in principle  but point number 2 i think the process you are talking about involves money which the campaigned lacked and could do nothing about. I am particulalry dissappointed that the voter turn out was only 50% average in the north and that was Buahris undoing. Money is what is needed to bring the remaining 20% on board and CPC did not play the politics which i tihink was due to lack of funds.

On the issue of emotions i will beg to disagree, i accept that i am frustrated with the thought of another 4 years of PDP presidency but emotions has nothing to do with my stand on these issues. What has emotion got to do with me finding interesting the accusation El Rufai made which only butressed the view on the streets.

El Rufai perhaps should not have been the one to say it in CPC but ignoring the messenger I agree with the message.

Thanks OP for your insights. Well done for the reports

Goodluck to the 22 million nigerians who voted him in.

ekt_bear:

Hehe

John Campbell's momma also did not raise a fool

Link to his article is here: http://blogs.cfr.org/campbell/2011/04/19/nigerian-presidential-elections-the-devil-is-in-the-ballot-collating/

Spreadsheet of election results I calculated on Google docs here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-648868.64.html#msg8151346

Similar table calculated by El Rufai here: http://saharareporters.com/sites/default/files/uploads/ElRufaiTable.jpg

Thanks for the link it is also on NVS.

People just like to read what they want to hear. The election process was better than 2007 and JEGA gave us a good process. However, the election was rigged in the SE, SS and north which means it is not free and fair.

ayinba1:

@gbawe

You know, sometimes the hard way IS the only way. Your points all seem to make winning the end rather than the means. So do you think that it is okay to be silent on the ills of the opposition just to have a broader appeal?

You are a member of ACN. what do you make of Nuhu Ribadu's political career as it stands now? I am still a fan of NH but I recall when many raised questions about his alliance with Tinubu, he explained it away.

Would you agree that the marriage has cost hi more than the loss in the election?

Buhari took the hard way and even if he did not win this election, he has won in many other ways. I am glad that the last minute Alliance did not work. That would have been a dirty compromise on the General and Pastor Bakare's standards.

This is where me and Gbawe differ as i am never a believer in the end justifying the means, there are some principles and values i will never bend to win and if i lose so be it as i will be able to sleep with comfort.

You could read the thread Mbuela highlighted for you.

Gbawe:

It does not have to be like that !!! We must learn how to play effective opposition politics in Nigeria as is done in the UK, USA and even in Ghana where Rawlings and Atta-Mills kept up their onslaught against the ruling Party while they were the opposition.

The problem with Nigeria is that , after elections , we accept the results, fold our arms and go home into hibernation for another 4 years . that should not be an option this time around . Bakare showed he can motivate people . Rather than continue to accumulate enemies unduly he should , as his first patriotic act in opposition, rally Nigerians behind patriot like Rev. Ugolor for on onslaught on the insincere National Assembly that refused to pass the PIB . That is how we do it . That is how we use people power to get things done and check the misrule we all complain about yet fail to appreciate that we have the power to stop. This is why I kept asking you what Buhari and co do out of power that will enable every Nigerian get behind them come election time . As an effective opposition Politician , wanting to wrestle power from misruling incumbents, you should not only be active when it is election time .

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/03/pib-protesters-call-for-resignation-of-ekweremadu/

We both on the same page regarding the bolded and this is why i said , the work is now. Bakare , Elrufai and other CPC guys from the south like Kayode Ogundamisi should all be active. I am sure Bakare would continue to motivate and do this. You and me should contribute our own quota as well. Did you get my mail?

agabaI23:

I think you are right. I was told by at least 2 friend's from Abia that she is from Abia. The last person was gloating that she will be the second first lady to come from Abia after Aguironsi's wife. Thanks for the correction anyway.Will you work with what is on ground or wait for another 4 years before you begin? If you have love for Nigeria, you will put your sentiment apart and help the country out of wood. It does not have to go your way before you can be part of it otherwise I will doubt your patriotism.

I will work on ground with the opposition and i dont have to be with PDP to contribute my own quota to Nigerias development. The time is now and we should not wait till 2014 before work starts, this is one of the reasons I support Buhari stance of not going to court.

Litigation saps all your energy and attention and you darg it till 2013 and GEj is vonfirmed president again and you then have only 18 months to start to work towards 2015.

I know we have lost this elections and I personally concede defeat. However we have to learn from the mistakes to better our future, the myth spreading around of a free and fair election should please stop. Otherwise we might forever have rigged elections in Nigeria.

International election observers have been enthusiastic about Nigeria’s 2011 presidential elections, seeing them as a dramatic improvement over those of 2007, admittedly a low bar. Electorally, the country split in two, with the North, predominately Muslim, voting for Muhammadu Buhari and the South for the winner, incumbent president Goodluck Jonathan. (In addition, there were numerous other candidates who altogether won only a small percentage of the vote). Buhari and other Northern spokesmen have denounced the elections as having been rigged and have called for them to be annulled. Meanwhile, murderous rioting has broken out across the northern part of the country, a sign of the major breakdown in civic order. What happened?

There appears to have been substantial election rigging, [b]not so much at the polling stations where international observers were often present but at the collation centers where monitors were usually absen[/b]t. A distinguished Nigerian civil organization, The Civil Society Election Situation Room, notes that in twelve states – one third of the total – ostensible voter turnout was suspiciously high. The national voter turnout average was 53 percent. In the twelve identified states, the turnout ranged from 62 percent to 84 percent. The Situation Room cites allegations that the figures were “doctored” and declares that the collation process constituted “the weakest link in the election management process.” Project Swift Count, another civil organization involved with election oversight, did station observers at some collation sites, but apparently a number of its personnel were arrested or otherwise intimidated. The Situation Room faults the Electoral Commission for having been “ineffective in its oversight function as far as monitoring and controlling the collation process was concerned.”

In Nigeria, governors often play a prominent role in election rigging. Of the twelve states with dubious turnout figures cited by the Election Situation Room, eleven had governors from the ruling party who supported Jonathan; none had governors from the opposition who supported Buhari. Of the twelve states that Buhari won, all in the North, Jonathan accumulated more than twenty-five percent of the vote in eight of them. Of those eight, all are represented by governors of the ruling party, the PDP.

Most of the rigging appears to have benefited Jonathan, and the Electoral Commission has certified that he won twice as many votes as Buhari and easily a majority of the ballots cast. Why rig in states that Jonathan was almost certain to win anyway? The Nigerian constitution requires a successful presidential candidate to win an absolute majority of the votes cast and at least 25 percent of the vote in two thirds of the states. Otherwise, there is a runoff between the two candidates who had the most votes. So, Jonathan needed overwhelming majorities in his base states to ensure that he won an absolute majority of the ballots cast nationwide. And, to avoid a runoff, he also needed sufficient support in the North to meet the vote distribution requirement.

So, even if the polling was credible, the ballot counting was not. With the country split in half on regional and religious lines, and with many of the losers convinced the elections were stolen, the result has enraged the North against the ruling party, (including northern elites who are associated with the ruling party such as the Sultan of Sokoto and the Emir of Kano) and also against Christians in many places. The issue is not whether Jonathan would have won the elections “anyway,” it is rather the sentiment among Northerners that the PDP yet again stole the elections. The immediate concern is that Northern violence against the ruling party and its perceived Christian supporters will result in an anti-Muslim backlash in the states that supported Jonathan. The longer term concern is the alienation of the North from the Federal Republic, a process already underway

agabaI23:

tOnly he turn in Imo and Abia will be termed high compared to other areas.
GEJ's wife is from Abia and that is understandable.
Abia was part of Imo and share boundaries with South-South. So if we have high turn outs there, no need to raise eyebrows.

The turn out in other SE states were only average and can be described as low.

In the South west, one could attribute the low turn out to apathy since most of them lean towards ACN and many thought that their candidate had no chance.

The turn out in the North would have been more than it was if there were people left in the house. Inflated voters register could not help them this time around. Voting for Buhari was a religious duty and noone would have been left behind.

If you ask me, turn out in the North was 100%

GEJs wife is from Rivers state not Abia

mbakauche:

Am having the feel Ribadu was fooled, i mean it does make sense how can he trust Tinubu infact what was he thinking coming out against GEJ and Buari when he knows very well that he can never win in the north since Buari is there favourite and ss and se are for GEJ, sw are people with pseudo sense.

This is a multi million dollar question of which the events of the coming few months will help us have an answer

jmaine:

So you felt Shekarau was morally wrong not to support Buhari candidacy because he chose to fight for the political relevance of the ANPP in the north . .it clearly shows that team Buhari did not make their political deductions well and they failed woefully in not shifting grounds in the alliance talk the same way ACN and Ribadu gladly did . . . They were too engrossed with the Northern numbers forgetting the fact the the PDP grassroots machinery in all corners of the North can't be extinguished without a struggle . . Politics is a give and take, team BB only wanted to take without giving and that was what alienated them in their quest . . .an Alliance would have have given GEJ a good run . . .but ego and selfish interest made sure such alliance talk was made a mirage once again and with Buhari dogged stance always the culprit . . .

One thing we all ignore is the money factor in Nigerian politics. Buhari and the folks round huim did their best and deserve praises for that. Spending maybe 1% of the reported 200 billion naira GEJ spent and gaining 34% of the votes is not childs meal. ACN most probably even spent more than CPC and could only gain 5% of the votes.

This is putting aside all the rigging.

However there is room to make a million changes, we learn everyday and hopefully the mistakes of the past will be learnt and corrected for the success of the future.

mbulela:

consensus candidacy.

 

Gbawe:

Thank you my brother !!!! El Rufai is simply sounding like a man who has let frustration cloud his reasoning.

Who would not be frustrated seeing we have to endure another 4 years of a clueless president who has spent 200 billion dollars and nothing to show for it. In fact it is more than frustration, anyone that has love for Nigeria wiould be frustrated. This is no excuse for him though !

If this doesnt happen, Akala still stands a chance. I pray Akala does not come back though.

Akanbi_edu:

^^^^

So insulting, isn't it?

Some people are better ignored, i have added a couple of them to people i will avoid discussions with as i never trade insults with anyone here on NL.

Gbawe:

Lagosboy, I always say emotions becloud your undoubted intelligence and again , I think , you confirm this. Once you support people you can never see wrong in what they do . That is tragic . El-Rufai is wrong to say what he has said regarding the ANPP and ACN . It is inflammatory , premature and , at best, incendiary conjecture unneeded at this stage . Mature politicians , who will be effective , do not talk like this i.e pugnaciously . They do not make serious allegation against others they cannot prove . I told you folks Bakare was wrong with his stance of fighting everyone to a standstill and proclaiming his camp as holier than everyone else,s . Sadly, El-Rufai is showing himself to be similar to Bakare and you BB fans are showing that you never learn !!!!!! El-Rufai will be 'dead on arrival' unless he learns to be pragmatic in talk and outlook.


Even if he knows things , it is better he understand what to go public with and what to remain silent on. Certain info are best not put in the public domain if they will gain you unnecessary hostility and isolation . You saw how the Nation voted . You saw the North-South divide . You think , if strategizing for 2015 , El-Rufai is wise contributing to that chasm ? Let el-Rufai make himself a Northern Champion. The CPC will lose the Presidential elections ten times if they don't learn how to play the game in realising that you must make concessions , and not enemies, to gain what you want by reaching out to those who are important. I dont back GEJ but you will remember I praised him , for political savvy, with how he reached out to Tinubu after the legislative elections. Those are the type of pragmatic , yet legal,'Horse-trading' that win elections for those who remember that "there are no permanent enemies in politics, only permanent interests" .  

The CPC , if they want to win at the highest level, should begin desisting from promoting into top positions Politicians who are long on ideology yet short of pragmatic awareness on how to play the game of politics . We saw how Bakare made one gaff after the other to the extent that many had already gone off him when a final effort was made to rally an alliance . Lets hope El-Rufai, unlike Bakare, will learn how to 'play the game' instead of making himself irrelevant like Bakare, Fawehinmi et al . I.e decent men who are way too emotional and inflexible to ever attain the positions to make the difference they want. That has always been the failings of Nigeria . Let us hope the newer generation of good guys can learn to play the game and win . You praised El-Rufai for "wisdom" . I don't see him as wise at all and his rant against the ACN and ANPP confirms it with how it will be construed , by many, as the desperate utterance of a man who has not gotten what he wants. If El-Rufai is politically sensible he will realise that the guber elections are still to come . 'Goodwill' still matter for those elections . Incendiary talk can wait.

Gbawe, i will always say there is nothing emotional here , regarding me not seeing wrong in what they do is not true. You defended Ribadu on some issues when it was as clear as daylight Ribadu was wrong and i have no issue with that in the least and that is what we call partisan politics. You defend ACN on many issues which is clear they are on the wrong and there is nothing wrong with it because i understand this is partisan politics. However for you to talk about emotion beclouding sense of analysis, I think that is subjective and the fact of life is emotions plays a part in every human beings analysis but the degree varies in everyone.

El Rufai made an analysis and touched on something which i find interesting and the public deserves to know the truth. on the other hand I can understand your dislike for his statement as it touches the party you support, this is the plain reality of life.  what I find curious that you dont appreciate is in politics people come out to disagree and they can also agree when it matters. GEJ called us rascals but when it mattered he went to ACN of which you have tacitly agreed a deal was struck. Tinubu called Buhari an expired leader but also he tried to be his VP. Politicians make statement to score cheap points .

However, i agree with you on El Rufai not going on the offensive too much and if he truly wants to run in 2015 , he should not make too many enemies. I believe he has tempered down compared to his days as a minister when he was a terrible loud mouth. I actually disliked him but now i see him as one of the hopes of the north.

assme:

Most times, we all think that this "tribalism" injustice and corruption exists somewhere in the atmosphere but the truth is, it exists in all of us and the more we continue to acknowledge&believe in its existence, the more we tend to behave in that direction, yes we are aware of the existence of corruption&tribalism but can we all cease/discipline ourselves not to practice it? the change we need is not just in 1 man, it is not in changing heads of state, its in us, every 1 of us.

That is why we need to infuse ideologies into our political parties. We need to form a real progressive group with a clear ideology which we have to impart into the minds of the people to change their thinking. When we get into govt we need to add this ideology into the subject of "social studies " in primary and secondary schools, our state universities will have a compulsory general course to teach this ideology. in 15 years we will have a new set of emerging young professionals with a changed mindset to that of our parents.

I personally dont see any party today with a clear ideology. ACN does not have a clear ideology , CPC does not either but to some extent we can pin point anti corruption and some policies to them like "elimination of state of origin and replacing with state of residence" which i agree with. PDP is the worst because its known ideology is looting.

We need great minds to move things in Nigeria , great minds who can also play the dirty politics of Nigeria and not guys like Utomi who remain aloof from the grasroots. Great minds who can inspire the streets, speak the language they understand to them in order to chnage their mindset for the better.

It is unlikely that the CPC will accept to be part of any Jonathan administration, so a large swathe of the North will be in opposition for the first time in Nigeria's political history. It will be a worthy learning experience for all. It is also evident that the ACN and ANPP were in some kind of covert alliance with the PDP so it is likely that their presidential candidates and key officers will be offered cabinet positions in the Jonathan administration, thus leaving CPC as the last opposition party standing. This is an opportunity for the party to build its organization nationally and govern the handful of states it is likely to win, competently.

This is is what Nuhu Ribadus close friend El Rufai said today and it is on SR. He must know something we all have been analysing. I am reluctant to see him as a mole but I am of th eopinion a deal was struck in the last 72 hrs before the election with or withour Ribadus knowledge.

Ribadu cannot go to CPC again IMO or maybe he could but El Rufai will always work against that as he wants to position himself now as the CPC fighter and pseudo opposition leader.

Everyday I am more convinced that Ribadus adventure was a misadventure of some sorts and he lost the gamble.

It is unlikely that the CPC will accept to be part of any Jonathan administration, so a large swathe of the North will be in opposition for the first time in Nigeria's political history. It will be a worthy learning experience for all. It is also evident that the ACN and ANPP were in some kind of covert alliance with the PDP so it is likely that their presidential candidates and key officers will be offered cabinet positions in the Jonathan administration, thus leaving CPC as the last opposition party standing. This is an opportunity for the party to build its organization nationally and govern the handful of states it is likely to win, competently.

I find this very interesting from El Rufai and i am patiently awaiting to see if Ribadu works with GEJ or ACN nominates people into GEJs cabinet.

On the other hand, i think this article confirms that El Rufai is getting ready to assume in the political face of CPC in the north under the leadership of the Peoples General. While I am aware El Rufai does not share the same incorruptible quality of Buhari and only very few people do. I will support him and if i have the opportunity work with him. I find him as a very intelligent dude and highly intellectual. He was man enough to admit his mistakes under OBJ and wrote to the whole world before he joined the Buhari cause.

If Sanusi joins CPC as well  then we might have a very interesting 2015 from the northern side. These two guys can push all the expired corrup politiicians in the north to retirement. Having said this, saturday gunernatorial elections will go along way to determine how CPC will blossom in the next 4 years.

Eziachi:

In the same Africa in 1983 NPN riggin machine told us that SHAGARI beat NNAMDI AZIKIWE in Anambra state for instance, so based on your theory Anambrarian so much love Shagari over Zik since you vote person and not party and that why parties like ANC is irrelevant in South Africa and Jacob Zuma won the presidency because he was so loved by South Africans.

I will remind all of you this particular theory of personality over party tht sold so well in this election soon rather than later.

Words of elders are always priceless. Well done for reminding us of history.

mbulela:

did you not hear Ayo Adebanjo days ago hailing Gbenga Daniel a true progressive and a son of Awo?

Laughable isnt´it . I think the real progressive leaders are all dead probably Gani was the last one or maybe Enahoro. All the ones left are chop i chop progressives