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Business / Re: Putting Sanusi's Islamic Banking In Perspective by Lagosboy: 7:53am On Jun 28, 2011
jamalah:

i just listened to the purported interview conducted of sanusi lamido sanusi by the bbc

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/hausa/multimedia/2011/06/110624_sanusi_video.shtml ) and to be frank he never made mention of a so-called Ibo man investing in the Jaiz bank. But perhaps this was a shorter video clip obviously conducted at the London studios and posted on the Hausa service's website. The radio clip might be longer and may have contained the statement.
But if that was true that he concealed the religion of the Ibo business man in concern, and if really it is true that he meant alhaji Abdulazeez Ude, then it not only shows the shallowness of Sanusi but reflects the mind-set of most Hausa Fulani. the suspicion of other non-hausa fulani muslims as not being 'islamic' enough that and their only genuine identity being their tribe not religion. I could remember when I was attending Rumfa College in the eighties an Ibo member of our class called mohammed usman. But we rarely ever called him his name but the nickname 'inyamirin musulmi'. (Ibo Muslim) he resisted but after sometime he just has to accept it. we couldn't just wrap our heads around the fact that an Ibo person will profess Islam. As an aside this is the reason why when so called religious riots break out in the north, Muslims of non Hausa origin are also attacked if not even more brutally. during the reprisal attacks in kano against pple of Yoruba origin in July 1999 some of them were killed in mosques in the kurna area. one of the victim was even a muezzin and according to reports he was hacked while calling for prayers.

be that as it may, he made a startling and quite disturbing assertion in the short clip that further exposed his mindset. he said and i quote :" it is usual in Nigeria that if an outcry is made over an issue one may be forced to back down. but you know i am not thet type of person". what will come to ones mind is that he has no regard for a large segment of the Nigerian populace that has a reservation toward his actions. As far as he is concerned they are inconsequential. This is a continuation of the mindset of hausa fulani pple that what they want is the only thing that matters in Nigeria.

several things come to mind with all the drama-plagued career of sanusi at the cbn.

sanusi is still a staunch hausa-fulani islamist. moulded in the supremasist beliefs that they are better than any other race in nigeria. i used to be an islamist too almost at the same time that sanusi was an active member, so i am familiar with their way of thinking thoroughly. One may wonder how such a staunch fundamentalist ended up in the 'forbidden' interest-taking banking sector which medieval clerics believe is even worse that indulging in other vices like the consumption or sales of alcohol. the persuasive excuse normally in such a case is 'if we muslims shun the interest-taking banking sector then the whole financial power will be in the hands of infidels'.but even then the guilt still lurk in the mind of most hausa muslims that what they are doing will make them end up in hell fire. i suffered the same fate. when i finished secondary school i got admission to study law at the Bayero University in kano even before the waec came out. awaiting result as it was called then. i had a bright prospect as a lawyer which i scuttled due to belief that i will be studying un islamic laws. i was steeped in islamic activism then and indoctrinated against anything modern or western. we used to call the constitution then derisively 'kwanche-tushe'. which means unravelling of origin (religious). how i wished i had someone to give me a persuasive excuse then and go to the university. any way i redeemed my losses later in life and career but i would have done so earlier even before leaving the shore of nigeria. so with such a mind set, one will see that sanusi is unfit to occupy such a sensitive post. but then this is nigeria, where one can rule even the whole nation with the aim of protecting only a certain segment of the population.

so one way or the other, one will see that this staunch determination to ram islamic banking down our throats could in one way or the other be an attempt to rid himself of the guilt and fear of damnation and at the same time gain some cheap popularity among the hausa fulani populace.

one very interesting aside to the whole saga was when i looked at the jaiz bank directors board an interesting insight came to my mind. abdulmutallab, the father of the underwear bomber became more interesting and further buttresses this assertion of mine. during the xmas bombing issue, a cousin of mine who was very close to members of the family told me that what prmopted his father to alert the authorities was when during his last confrontation with his dad the son had told him that he was breaking all ties with him because he made his money through the unlawful interest-based banking system. he now gave his father a condition for purifying his dirty wealth : help alqaeda. when the father prodded him further he disclosed his contacts with the terrorist orgnization and that was when he realized that his son had reached the point of no return and he had to report him to save his skin. is this a way of 'sanitizing' his wealth?

Another interesting person is Adegbite, who incidentally is occupying the position that Abiola used to in the supreme council of Islamic affairs. is he really a committed investor in the venture or just a dispensable appendage as Abiola was thrown to the dogs when the chips were down.

I am a muslim born and bread in the heart of the ancient Kano city. but i beleive that we muslims especially the north west must come to the realisation that Nigeria is a secular state and actions that threaten that secularity in any shape or form is inimical to the corporate existence of the country. and the more we engage in these kind of insensitive ventures the closer the country moves towards what we dread most: sovereign national conference. and that will really hurt us. moreover i believe that any thing that is not demand-driven will not stand the test of time. when yarima forcefully launched sharia in zamfara state and other northern states followed suit obasanjo said it will die a natural death and it did. the main reason for that was that it was smuggled through the backdoor. none of those governors that launched the sharia included it in their campaign promises. any way, pple are wiser as they have all being completely demystified.
the same goes with sanusi. he never mentioned all these at the senate screening of his candidacy. moreover the jaiz bank idea had been around since the time of abacha and i know of a lot pple (including my mother) still carrying their share certificate since its first ipo for years. for the fact that it could not take off since then says a lot about about the whole idea in the first plac. and of course the personalities involved in the venture. anyway, i personally will not put my money in anything that alhaji Aminu Dantata is involved in. but that is a topic for we 'origina'l, kano city pple that know him very well.







Gentleman, I am now begining to think you are on a mission and Baldercash knows something we do not know which was the reason he was probing you on your earlier threads.

Your post has no purpose except to malign and cast aspersion on SLS for no justified reason. A man who is the only Nigerian to grace the last top 100 most influential persons in the world, a man who is probably the only Nigerian to address a US senate committee, A man who is praised home and abroad as being the only CBN governor to have prosecuted rogue bankers, a man who was awarded with the worlds best CBN governor, a man who has written hundreds of papers and whose intellectual depth you can only dream off.

Why do you bring tribalism where it does not exist , SLS is known for being a very detribalised Nigerian who has repeatedly said he does not care about the tribe or religion of political office holders but what hje cares about is their competence in their area of assignment.

You go on further to try to castigate Alhaji Abdul Muttalab because of what his son did, but you have forgotten that Jaiz bank had being in the pipleine as far back as 2004/2005, you could check it out if you so wish. Umar farouq went on his mission in 2009. Having said that , is it also a crime even if his father chose to sanitise his wealth by going into a non interest banking ? How does an islamic bank affect the segement of the population that dont like it? We always have a choice in life and investing or dealing with the bank is by choice and no one is forced to deal with the banks. Have you wondered why over 80 million nigerian muslims are restricted to deal with interests as against their wish ?

I live in the west and travel all around europe of which there is an islamic bank in UK, France , Germany all with a very low percentage of muslims. Why is it in Nigeria we attach sentiments to every issue. JAMALA you definitely have an agenda of which its intent is a mystery. ISLamic banking has nothing to do with Hasua Fulani and you need not bring controversies where it does not exist.
Politics / Re: Nigerian Police Retracts 'suicide Bomb' Claim by Lagosboy: 7:00pm On Jun 22, 2011
I voted GEJ and not PDP
Politics / Re: Did Gideon Akaluka Really Desecrate The Holy Qur'an? A Contrarian Muslim Review by Lagosboy: 12:58pm On Jun 22, 2011
jamalah:

the solution is hardly modern or western education. pple still view it with a great deal of mistrust. it is deeply ingrained in the northern Hausa Fulani psyche and it will take a herculean task to dissipate. to be frank, it will not be far-fetched to say that the north is still frozen in the mentality that existed in the 1800's when the colonial masters first set foot in Hausa land. so reversing over 200 years of educational psychological cultural and religious stagnation is not a day's job. i could remember when i was a little kid we will come out early in the coming singing abusive songs at the children going to modern schools which we called makarantar boko. boko in hausa means something that is fake or spurious. therefore when i was enrolled in the jarkasa primary school in old kano city it was the saddest day of my life to have to go to an institution which i have dutifully partook in vilifying.  one will partly blame the colonizers for this. because when they left the emirs in authority as opposed to the norm in the south, they simply kept the pple in a fossilized mental state which is the only way they can continue to remain relevant. wonder why in many northern state the emir is still more powerful than an 'elected governor'.
in most muslim countries at the dawn of the colonial masters the monarchy were toppled one after the other. egypt turkey iraq libya tunisia etc followed the 'progressive' road and rendered the parasitic royals into the dusbin of history. though their progressive experiments are still to take them to the promised land, at least they have started somewhere. in the north of nigeria the surface has not even being scratched. there have never being any documented cultural dissident in the north that has ever challenged the backward ways and ideas of our pple. it still amazing that even wearing a suit is still viewed with contempt in many quarters in contrast with say egypt or syria or turkey where even highly regarded clerics wear the best of saville row. as a boys scout back when i was young, we would untuck our shirts and remove the belts in our beleif then that' zanzaro', (tucked in shirt) was a sin that will prevent our prayers being acepted by god. funnily enough i saw a policeman about a year ago when i attended the friday prayers in hausawa quarters still do the same before joining the prayers. when i was attending the egyptian cultural center near fagge for arabic studies in the nineties we marvel at egyptian scholars who teach us but dont conform to what we believe was the normal islamic comportment. they dress like southern nigerians who we were brought up to hate and never imitate. some even scandalously smoke cigarette.
 i could remember in the early nineties when a lady called Kande Balaraba ( of blessed memory) in kano challenged the marriage instituition that it was not a must for a woman to get married countless clerics came out in full force to attack and force her to renounce her claims.
even most recently when a presenter in the freedom radio in kano tried to criticise the almajiri tradition and institution prominent clerics like Sheikh Dahiru Bauchi came out to denounce him and justify the practice. some even organizing special prayers to invike  curses to 'destroy' him and his attempts. sadly enough, this cleric is a confidant of the vice president who
m one would regard as the highest ranking northerner at present.

I beg to diasgree with the bolded. The long term solution is education , in intellectual terms there is nothing like "western education" because before the spanish invasion into africa in 1700 , there was a thriving univeristy of an advanced science level in Timbuktu , Mali of which the light of its education spread as far as northern Nigeria. It is an intellectual crime and a crime against God to call mathematics, biology , social studies, geography as western education and so wrong for muslims to study them.

It is only education that will let these youths know that mathematical break throughs were by the early muslim mathematicans in Spain and beyond. It is only education that will teach these youths that navigation techniques were advanced by the muslim scientist before europeans learnt and further developed it.

The wrong beliefs, norms and culture can only be uprooted by breaking its foundation intellectually of which only educated and enlightened minds can achieve that. islamic scholars should understand that knowledge does not end with the hadiths because the hadiths asked us clearly to grab knowledge wherever we can find it. The quran gave us foundations in the knowledge of science and challenged us to search further. The miracle of the quran lies in its intellectual miracle which stimulates and challenges the intellect of man which leaves me to wonder why this deep rooted traditions have survived 200 years. My only conclusion is the northern elites have deliberately enslaved the mind of the populace in order to control them.

This sort of problem exists in Pakistan as well of which the resluting effect is 35% of the population being stark illiterate. They practice feudelism and it is part of the problem in that country till date.

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Politics / Re: Did Gideon Akaluka Really Desecrate The Holy Qur'an? A Contrarian Muslim Review by Lagosboy: 12:35pm On Jun 22, 2011
bashdecash:

1. i ddnt curse Jamalah, i only asked him a question and prayed for his soul, he answered d question though
2. what he said that pple are praising him are just his own personal assertions which are just mere assumptions.
3. i'm not saying the slaying of the Gideon is justified, bt i hv the blv that all jungle justice and mob executions are subject to the assessment Jamalah did and most of them are just unjust.
4. Jamalah may have his REASONS for launching a new profile and create confusion in Nairaland to justify his personal whatever.

finally, i always hate the unjustified killings in the North, south, east etc. the barbaric killings in Jos, kaduna, bauchi, ibadan (which claimed my cousin Auwal Shanono, the National president medical students) etc.
But lets be intellectual enough to look at what Jamalah wrote and scrutinise it to see that he is not in the legal position to justify or unjustify any killing in those places i mentioned since he is not an authority or private detective.
i know many pple here are happy for what Jamalah gave them because they only see the truth from one side and Jamalah, innal munafiqiina fid darkil asfala minan nar!

Bro, you might disagree with Jamlah and it seems you have a contrary opinion to him on this issue. You would do many people a favor by stating your disagreement and we can discuss further this issue. It is not good to castigate someone as a hypocrite without elaborating you objections. You have implicitly called him a hypocrite on your post.

I am muslim , i am a student of knowledge , i am a southerner, i am a lagosian but i disagree with many social norms that take place in northern Nigeria and southern Nigeria as well. The prophet PBUH talked about the importance of education and the pioneers of modern science many of them were muslim intellectuals of the 10 to 16th century.

The parochial understanding of islam of some teachers in northern Nigeria has done nothing but enslave the mind of the muslim youth in the north. Voilence happens everywhere in Nigeria and jungle justice is rampant in southern Nigeria as well. However when we do something in the name of islam which is wrong other muslims have to speak out because jungle justice is non existent in islam, our faith does not permit us to act on impulse or hearsay without evidence.

Lamido Sanusi has for years spoken out about the wrong practices and mindset of the some northern teachers and it is hight time we take heed to move foward.

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Politics / Re: What Is Wrong With President Jonathan? by Lagosboy: 9:56am On Jun 22, 2011
You simply cannot give what you dont have.

Mr President himself admitted he doesnt have the required adminsitrative skills required of a president. There is nothing wrong with him.

I hope i am proven wrong but i think we will be worse off in 2015 compared to 2007 when OBJ left.
Politics / Re: Did Gideon Akaluka Really Desecrate The Holy Qur'an? A Contrarian Muslim Review by Lagosboy: 9:17am On Jun 22, 2011
thehomer:

And who has the responsibility of keeping these leaders in check? This is why I advocate the carrot and the stick. Besides, as we have seen the world over, education is not necessarily a panacea for such problems. Just ask the Sept. 11th hijackers. Indeed in some cases, it could help them plan more effective attacks. So we need to do more than just educating these people.

Surely the people have the responsibility to keep the leaders in check. However it is only a liberated mind that can use his intellect to understand the precarious situation of his people and fight for justice. The almajiris have been intellectually enslaved to the belief that if one rich man is amongst the community he is the lord of them and are happy eating from the crumbs of his table.

As regards carrot and stick, you could be partially correct but the mistake countries over the world have made in tackling terrorism is painting all situation with the same brush. Terrorism in different countries have different causes and root problems, the most apparent cause of radical islam is not the always the root problem in all cases as there are always deep underlying social problems.

Boko haram from the name implies "western education" is forbidden. This was the genesis of their movement , this is the foundation of their movement and many undergrad students withdrew from school to follow this msiguided doctrine. Naturally such a doctrine will be a honey comb for the estimated 10 million almajiris roaming the streets of the north who are uneducated and will find a conevenient excuse and solace for their misfortune.

The riots in the north after the election started well in Kano as it was the northern elite who were the target of the peoples anger but the same elite used the ignorant almajiris to turn it into a religious crises in Kaduna and other places.

By and large , up to 1000 schools have to be created in the northern territories to educate these almajiris ranging from ages 5 to 18. No one is too old to learn and these people have to learn. We have problems in the South West as well as regards agbero issues but these people make money and a career out of their nonsense but the almajiris in the north dont see money, they dont see food , they have no future and will be a terrible burden on the state if they are not taken care of.

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Politics / Re: Did Gideon Akaluka Really Desecrate The Holy Qur'an? A Contrarian Muslim Review by Lagosboy: 5:45pm On Jun 21, 2011
I have been singing for years and even here on NL that the problem of voilence in the north is a product of the social retrogression perpetrated on them by their unfortunate leaders. Leaders who have failed to educate the northern folks. Why on earth should children be roaming the streets begging while they should be in schools ?

The northern elite are responsible for the underdevelopment and waste of minds and in fact generations. The southern folks rather than sympathise with the predicament in the north and help them push for education, the fundamentalist among southerners heap the blame at the doorstep of islam.

It is most unfortunate that even the islamic education we are of the impression the almajairis have is actually nil. All they do is lear how to read arabic letters, memorise the quran and that is all. The real islamic education is not possesed by the street mallams who teach them and what you dont have you cannot give. The chicken is coming home to roost now which is the Boko Haram, a creation of years of neglect and social depravation.

The solution to the Boko haram menace is social justice and education, any attempt to militarily crush them will be an excercise in futility. Yaradua made a very wrong decision to go crush them in Borno and hundreds of innocent INNOCENT defenceless civilians were shot and killed at close range (Aljazeera showed us footages of some). Their leeader Yusuf was killed without trial or extcraction of the rationale behind their motives. Boko haram is not Al Qaeda as the former believe 100% in education and carry out their attacks from sophisiticated education. This Nigerian menace called Boko haram if not sincreley checked and resolved will end up being an alabatross round Nigerias neck, of a level worse than MEND of the ND militants.

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Politics / Re: Aregbesola Needs More Prayers –pdp by Lagosboy: 2:31pm On Jun 21, 2011
Akanbi_edu:

A comment

"Thanks all good people that have spoken. I still dont know the relevancy of commisioners, for all the states where they have them, they constitute more burden to the state and duel into the state pause and do away with cash. If a state can do without them let the state be. I think the jobs are moving and no crisis is recorded, we thank God for that.
A state like Osun with 1.8Billion allocation and 1.2Billion goes into workers benefit, what do we have for state development and out of this again commisioners would come and loot theirs. It is never a must as we can see.
God bless Osun State and Nigeria as whole"

I hope the bolded is not true.

If the bolded is true , this bring me to the conclusion that the governor has a questionable sense of judgement. Otherwise why would a state with overbloated civil service recruit 20000 more workers.

Aregbesolas aide should have kept quiet and appoint commssioners rather than try to justify the unjustifiable. Ogbeni Rauf shoulf appoint commissioners and stop this embarassing statements.
Politics / Re: Fra Williams' 4 Sons Fight Over Father's N26b Estate Gets Messier by Lagosboy: 11:17am On Jun 20, 2011
FRA surely left a will but from what i gathered ( could be wrong) , he removed the first son from the will before he died. This was because the first son was involved in some unholy relationship with another family member´s young wife.

The old man warned the son but he did not back down and he removed his name from the will. This is the reason the younger sons ar ein control of the chambers because He had been in charge before their father died. The elder son is contesting the will because he stands the chance of not getting anything if the will stands.

Vanity upon vanity, They have forgotten they all have children as well and their children woul dmost probably do the same thing for them. If i were the younger sons i would settle for equal splitting into 4 and the case settles.
Politics / Re: Fashola Frowns At Road Closure For Top Govt Officials by Lagosboy: 8:02am On Jun 20, 2011
pro01:

He is such a noble creature. Remove the yoke called Tinubu from his neck and he would transform Lagos to London in the next four years.

ROMFLAO

Really, i was in Abuja couple of weeks back and i saw several govs convoy speed past other cars with a loud horn for people to stee clear of the road. However the same day i saw Fasholas convoy drive past me in traffic and he was reading while his convoy was holed up in traffic.

Sirens should only be for Ambulance, police and fire service. Mr president could have a motorcade of 100 cars but please no sirens. I do understand for security reasons outriders are neccessary to clear the traffic for a presidents convoy though.
Politics / Re: Bankole And Nafada Granted Bail In The Sum Of N500m by Lagosboy: 4:52pm On Jun 16, 2011
Who paid this money and what is the source of the money?
Politics / Re: Obasanjo Declares: Jonathan Can’t Fight Corruption! by Lagosboy: 2:31pm On Jun 16, 2011
Gbawe:

My brother hope you got my email? I go dey around soon so we go meet up. Your sisters experience exactly mirrors mine when I collected my Nigerian Passport last year. Every single person was on the take at the Passport office - and openly too. A culture of corruption is now in place , perpetuated by one self-serving 'tool' leader after the other , that is now firmly entrenched to the extent that people do not bother to pretend anymore. Corruption is now the norm.

Corruption will not stop overnight but what would have brought a visible difference, and perhaps begun our march in the right direction, would have been the voting out of the PDP at the Presidential level. A vote for a PDP President is a vote for the continuation of bloated governance, profligacy , corruption and lack of political will. Alas , Nigerians have chosen to retain the PDP at the highest level and we can only wait to see what the next 4 years will reveal.

Yeah got it and replied as well but i have been on d move as well. You wud hear my voice soon though and looking foward to when you return.

I have been hearing all the bad things about the passport office and it also happens at the NHC in london which is a no go area. Civil servants will create every avenue to frustrsate your move to get a job done without paying a bribe. The will creat useless buerocractic bottlenecks to force you to part with some money.

I was leaving Nigeria for europe and the immigration officers kept saying "what do u have for me" you pass one desk and there is another customs officer/NDLEA waiting for you witht he same question , you pass and you meet another set of plain clothes thieves with the same questions and then you go to the boarding gate to meet airline contract staff who frustrate you again in order to extort some money.

In short our leaders are a reflection of the populace and the voting in of PDP by 22 million nigerians is a testimony to that fact.
Politics / Re: Lagos 2015: Acn Searches For Fashola’s Successor. by Lagosboy: 2:17pm On Jun 16, 2011
Who knows if ACN will still be the same ACN in 2015 , people should stop talking about a successor but talk about ACN flag bearer. This notion that ACN will always win LAgos might be ACNs downfall because it leads to complacency and another party might spring up with strong grassroot appeal.
Politics / Re: Bomb Blast At Police Force Headquarters In Abuja? by Lagosboy: 2:07pm On Jun 16, 2011
This is what happens when you let thugs get away with crimes.

This is what haappens when you politicise national diasasters.

On independence day GEJ came out to absolve MEND and we have had no conviction of anyone for that crime, today we have another bombing because there is a precedent of lack of political will. If it is Boko haram it is hight time the govt sit down to root out this problem and accept its systematic failure in not educating these folks. The chicken has come home to roost and this cancer might spread like wild fire if it is not nipped in the bud. Maybe if Yusuf their elader was not illegally killed he would have confessed and let the world know his sponsors.

Maybe it is MEND or some ND disgruntled elements , we dont know until someone claims responsibility. I grieve fo rNigeria because the last thhing we need is insecurity of this scale which can lead to permanenet instability.

Boko haram is a strange sect of which Al qaeda cannot even accept their teachings because the leaders of al qaeda are well educated to the masters level. Even the lead hijacker of 9/11 had a phd. Me thinks this boko haram is the creation of some powers that be somewhere who are hell bent on destabilisation of Nigeria.
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Needs More Prayers –pdp by Lagosboy: 10:04am On Jun 16, 2011
@know all

All over the world we have career public servants and politcal appointment like commissioners et al. The difference is that commissioners are there to implement the vision of the governor/president. The DG of the ministry is to execute the th eimplentation plans of the policies. These are two different roles. DGs are used to a particular way of doing things and it is fresh hands, fresh thoughts, fresh ideas that can bring the best out of them.

In the UK you secretary of various gov depts and you have managing directors of different sectors in that department who are career public servants etc.

Go to Osun state and you will see that no govt is running in that state except the payment of salaries.
Politics / Re: Obasanjo Declares: Jonathan Can’t Fight Corruption! by Lagosboy: 10:00am On Jun 16, 2011
OBJ has spoken 100% the truth here , although when he says corrupt people are entrenched in the system , he forgot to include himself as well.

It is only Buhari among the 3 top candidates that could have sincerley fought corruption in Nigeria. But what i have come to realise is that the nigerians that want corruption stamped out of the system are in the minority and this is a fact often ignored by many commentators.

Politicans want to develop their party and few will use their personal money to develop the party when they have access to govt cash, they will also go further to amass monstrous war chest to further their political ambitions. Common citizens deman bribe for every single thing in Nigeria and the bulkk of the civil service in Nigeria have corruption in their DNA.

My sister when to Ikoyi registry to get a replacement for her lost certificate and every single person there demanded a bribe in the region of 10 k from her. Every single desk she went to it was the same story which means they all share the money from top to bottom.

Nigerians have the mentality that you must not depend on your salary which means you have to look for ways to steal or extort. It will take a generation for this mentality to vanish and this can only be achieved with a sincer incorruptible leader at the helm of affiars in Nigeria. I personally dont think this kind of leader is electable in Nigeria which means for it to happen he has to acquire the keys to Aso rock through alternative means.

Just my thoughts and i coul dbe wrong.
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Needs More Prayers –pdp by Lagosboy: 7:35am On Jun 16, 2011
Akanbi_edu:

I don't like populist moves too but I figured he had to do that to win elections first. Rauf has another local problem between choosing Osun based politicians and the Lagos based politicians. i think he prefers people he worked with in Lagos and that in itself is creating tension in the state. Whatever the case mayb, I think it's too early to judge the governor in this particular case.

This is where i have problem with Rauf. Leadership is decision making, it is about being decisive and not foot dragging on important issues. I quite agree that Rauf is a grassroots man but political manouvering is different from governance. Good intentions does not deleiver proper governance rather is is proper planning of policies and implementation that delievers.

Whats stop him from mixing his vabinets with lagos based and osun based guys? if after 8 months Rauf is still dragging his feet on this issue it is a big shame. Personally my criteria for assessing if a governor will perform is his actions in the first 12 months. Fashola got praises in Lagos not for what he did in his last two years (because he actually did not do much¨) but his perfomance is his first two years are what endeared Lagosians to him.

If after 3 years osun states infrastructure remains the same, there will be no major investments in the state. Even the agricultural program will not be a success if proper infrastructure are not in place.

I am not a being pessimistic at all but if it is going to rain at night we would begin to see cloud movements in the afternoon.
Politics / Re: Irresponsible Journalism: Who Would Call The Tribune To Order by Lagosboy: 6:44pm On Jun 15, 2011
I dont understand how anyone will demonise a 95 year old woman in this manner, more importanantly the wife of Awo who is older than Tinubus grand mother even.  I am not a freat Awolowo fan but this attack on the Awo family is needless all because they associate with PDP. Only if folks know how the celeberated ACN saints wine and dine with PDP guys behind closed doors you will realise 95% of Nigerians are just puns in a game of chess.

Sun¨: Orji Kalu
Nation : Tinubu
Compass : OGD
Thisday : PDP stooge
Tribune : Awo
Punch : possibly neutral
Vanguard: PDP outlet
Independent: Ibori

Almost every paper has an agenda and let the truth be told the SW media editors are all on Tinubus payroll and he has trmenduous influence over them. Ever wonder why it is only papers that dont favor Tinubu he tries to demonise. Thisday(I dont liek the paper) is demonised everyday by Tinub and his boys. Fashol in 2007 returned an award all because thisday criticised Bola Tinubu. Magazines like The news and PM news are an extention of Tinubus empire, little wonder why Babafemi Ojudu was rewarded with the ACN senatorial contest he did not win.

Let the truth be told the local media in Nigeria all serve someones agenda with the exception of maybe Next newspapers and probably leadership.

The other day the Nation reported that Akala fled Nigeria after handover while Akala was in Ogbomoso.  

The Nigeria media is as compromised as our police force and gone are the days of objective and independent news analysis.
Business / Re: Anglican Bishops Kick Against Proposed Islamic Bank by Lagosboy: 10:35am On Jun 15, 2011
Everything in Nigeria is all about sentiments.

The president selects his cabinet based on sentiments
Pepole vote based on sentiments

The whole educational system in Nigeria is in dire need for complete overhauling. We as Nigerias find it hard to analyse any issue obejectively, we see every issue from the prism or pin hole mindset of either tribal affliation or religious affliation.

Non muslim countries are embracing islamic finance on an increasing rate so as to boost the economy but some Nigerians are rejecting it based on sentiments. If only these bishops do themselves a favour to understand islamic banking then they will see that probably 95% of its prinicples is what the bible itself postulates such as ethical finance, non interest finance, ethical funding and investements etc.

No one is forcing anyone to save in an islamic bank which makes me wonder what the fuss is all about. Has the CBN rejected any form of Christian finance supervised by a christian advisory council? Why should the the desire of at least 80 million Nigerian muslims be put aside because of sentiments. The banking as we know it today was not created by africans but rather, we adopted the system , why on earth can we not look into other forms of finance in case it might be better for us.

The bottom line is , if you dont like islamic banking simply put your money elsewhere and dont deal with it, if you like it put your money there and deal with it.
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Needs More Prayers –pdp by Lagosboy: 10:16am On Jun 15, 2011
Akanbi_edu:

Lagosboy and ekt_bear. I am still watching the governor's performance too but the issue of appointing commissioners can be explained. Politics comes first before you do any good work, you have to be in office. To be you have to play the game the way it is played.

Rauf came in when the house was in control of PDP. At a time he wanted to constitute committees for local government, he had to negotiate with the PDP controlled house to include their loyalists in those committees. The same thing goes for commissioners, he would have to include all sort of opposition politicians in his cabinet.

If you were the governor, why would you do that? Why would you empower a ruthless opposition backed with federal powers? If he did that, do you think ACN would have cleared every contested position in the state in the last general elections? We need to learn one or two things about politics, its not as straightforward as you guys seem to think. Fashola had the leverage in Lagos because Tinubu already did the politics there. Go check the battles Tinubu fought in that place against PDP in his early years in office.

I believe Rauf is simply doing the politics first.


I very much know that it is because of politics Rauf is delaying the appointment but the elections were over 6 weeks ago and still no appointments. Are we to believe that in the seven months he has spent he has no list of 20 to 30 people he wants in his cabinet? I believe Rauf is too slow and has no clear policies of which he wants to implement. His table is full of proposals from people looking for ways to scavenge on the govt.

Public policy is different from proposals sponsored by private citizens. No govt is running in Osun state at present. The only running thing is payment of salaries of which civil servants are doing nothing. The celeberated 20000 employment is begining to implode from within, and this is just few months after its announcment. If you remember here on NL we analysed the sustainability of the poplist move and i stated categorically its unsustainability of which is already happening.

I like Rauf as a person but i believe the ACN super proaganda machine might not work for him in the long run if there is nothing to show for it on ground. Elections in osun will be in three years and many policies will require 2 years before the populace feel the effects. 8 months is gone already , time waits for no one.
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Needs More Prayers –pdp by Lagosboy: 1:06pm On Jun 14, 2011
I have been saying it that i have the feeling Aregbesola will be a big flop. I just cannot understand the rationale behind his delay. When he eventually appoints commisiioner , they will need 12 to 15 months to stablise and draw out policies of which the tenure will be well into its 3rd year and another election will be looming.

Couple of weeks back most of the announced 20000 workers were not paid which vinidcates those of us who analysed that the move was an unsustainable populist move. No commissioners means no govt is running in the state, why does the governor need to travel about when commissioners of specif ministry can do most of those travels for him.
Politics / Re: Attack On Awo's Family Illogical, Absurd, Offensive - Babatope by Lagosboy: 7:49am On Jun 10, 2011
and Tinubu is dining with the bigger devils

Bisi Akande dined with the evil genuis himself

ACN dines with the big devils all the time
Politics / Re: Tinubu A Supplanter - Awo's Granddaughter by Lagosboy: 7:48am On Jun 10, 2011
I have been following this stories and honestly this attack by Omatseye on the Awo family is silly and foolish. I hate PDP but we should stop this holier than thou mentality for goodness sake. ACN hobnobs with PDP members when it suits them and attack them when it suits them.

How can we forget the visit of Bisi Akande and Ribadu to the IBB mansion? Is Akala of Oyo state worse than IBB in terms of their bad actions to the south west? Akume is being positioned to become minority leader but Akume is a retired PDP looter wearing a new ACN garb.

Tinubu meets with GEJ when it suits him and all sorts. I personally know two ACN chieftains who are very good friends with some notorious PDP looters like Ibori and co. They wine and dine together and give us a different impression in public.

Tinubu had been friends with Atiku since 2001/2002 while Atiku was still a very powerful VP in the PDP. Why should the Awo family be attacked for hobnobing with PDP governors when their home is open for everyone to visit.

One thing i know for sure is , Tinubu is enjoying his time and soon it will be over. Oba mewa igba mewa lo ni ile aiye
Politics / Re: Yoruba Leaders Rally Round HID Awolowo by Lagosboy: 7:41am On Jun 10, 2011
I have been following this stories and honestly this attack by Omatseye on the Awo family is silly and foolish. I hate PDP but we should stop this holier than thou mentality for goodness sake. ACN hobnobs with PDP members when it suits them and attack them when it suits them.

How can we forget the visit of Bisi Akande and Ribadu to the IBB mansion? Is Akala of Oyo state worse than IBB in terms of their bad actions to the south west? Akume is being positioned to become minority leader but Akume is a retired PDP looter wearing a new ACN garb.

Tinubu meets with GEJ when it suits him and all sorts. I personally know two ACN chieftains who are very good friends with some notorious PDP looters like Ibori and co. They wine and dine together and give us a different impression in public.

Tinubu had been friends with Atiku since 2001/2002 while Atiku was still a very powerful VP in the PDP. Why should the Awo family be attacked for hobnobing with PDP governors when their home is open for everyone to visit.

One thing i know for sure is , Tinubu is enjoying his time and soon it will be over. Oba mewa igba mewa lo ni ile aiye
Politics / Re: Attack On Awo's Family Illogical, Absurd, Offensive - Babatope by Lagosboy: 7:37am On Jun 10, 2011
I have been following this stories and honestly this attack by Omatseye on the Awo family is stupid and foolish. I hate PDP but we should stop this holier than thou mentality for goodness sake. ACN hobnobs with PDP members when it suits them and attack them when it suits them.

How can we forget the visit of Bisi Akande and Ribadu to the IBB mansion? Is Akala of Oyo state worse than IBB in terms of their bad actions to the south west? Akume is being positioned to become minority leader but Akume is a retired PDP looter wearing a new ACN garb.

Tinubu meets with GEJ when it suits him and all sorts. I personally know two ACN chieftains who are very good friends with some notorious PDP looters like Ibori and co. They wine and dine together and give us a different impression in public.

Tinubu had been friends with Atiku since 2001/2002 while Atiku was still a very powerful VP in the PDP. Why should the Awo family be attacked for hobnobing with PDP governors when their home is open for everyone to visit.

One thing i know for sure is , Tinubu is enjoying his time and soon it will be over. Oba mewa igba mewa lo ni ile aiye
Politics / Re: Babangida Aliyu: Thank God Buhari Lost The Election by Lagosboy: 3:22pm On Jun 02, 2011
This guy speaks to much and most of the time it is utter rubbish that he speaks. All this guy is worried about is that he almost lost his seat to CPC and is happy he won by whatever means he used.

The northern elite are jittery about the masses taken over in the person of Buhari, they fear their relevance will be lost forever. This new guys want to be the face of the north in 2015 and beyond. Buhari is this and Buhari is that , when he should bloody focus on governance in his state.
Politics / Re: Read El-Rufai's Brilliant Take Down Of Gej's Administration by Lagosboy: 9:29am On Jun 02, 2011
Guys why do we have to look at the hole and not the doughnut. El Rufais article largely talks about the financial recklessness of GEJ and the fact Nigeria is going no where if the status quo remains. Why do we have to isolate his comments on the division as if that is the only thing highlighted in the article.

Focus on the positives of his article.

El Rufai has largely spoken well.

Yet, this year, government will spend more to subsidize petrol (about USD 5 billion) than on roads, education, health and power combined. This prioritization is symptomatic of the political economy of today’s Nigeria.

This is very scary and it means guys like FO and his gangs will feed fat and the remaining money voted for education, roads, health power will be shared by the other thieves . Well Well well I voted for GEJ and not PDP !!
Politics / Re: Nigerian Ambassador To Kenya: Son's Side Of The Story by Lagosboy: 8:03am On Jun 02, 2011
That is why itis always good to read 2 sides to a story. Many people have castigated this man and rain curses at him, even Okey Ndibe wrote an article against him without listening to his side of the story.

I believe this mans story 100% and believe his sons story as well because the both stories agree with each other.

We seek refuge with God from evil women and women of the type of this bitch called Tessy.

However i blame this man for not breaking this marriage earlier on in his life , sometimes it is better to acknowledge a mistake, curb your losses by running off early rather than sticking to marriage which has cost him his career, reputation, family and social status.
Politics / Re: Us Government To Partner With Lagos by Lagosboy: 1:00pm On May 30, 2011
Fashola has to be careful and in fact very careful with US involvement. Until we see clear process of how the US intends to partner LAgos we would remain in speculation. The US talks about HIV and Aids but as far as i know they have been partnering Nigeria as regards AIDS for decades now.

If it is business interests we have to see what they intend to do , any US investment should not be tax free , should not enjoy tax holiday except they are providing quality jobs for several thousands Lagosians. The investment Fashola should ask for is for them to build the 4th mainland bridge and toll it. If a US company can do that then we would know they are serious and genuine.
Business / Re: London Retailer Shop Adopts Hausa Language To Woo Customers by Lagosboy: 12:26pm On May 30, 2011
Sagamite:

You might be right about your postulation that anyone that can read is not illiterate but:

1) Some form of literacy is useless. E.g. if you can only read and write in Hausa, then that is useless because I cannot recall any higher institution, or even secondary school, that teaches in and uses materials in Hausa. That was why the comparison with Chinese auwal made was dumb.

2) Majority of Hausas are illiterates that is why the international media organisations have a Hausa service.

What is the basis for saying majority of hausas are illiiterates? you acknowledged literacy is the ability to read and write and i am not here to talk about the relevance of a language but your wild assertion that majority of hausas are illeterates should be backed up with facts please.

Now the reason you gave for your assertion does not hold water IMO because can we say majority of PAkistanis are illiterates for having a BBC urdu service or majority of iraninas are illiterates for having a CNN farsi service. What we fail to acknowledge is that Hausa is an international language spoken all around west africa an even in some remote parts of Sudan. It is the 2nd or 3rd most important african language and it should be preserved.

I acknowledge that some of our northern bros and sis are uneducated but that should not be the focus of this thread. The thread simply states Debenhams wrote thank you in hausa and some of us southerners out of whatever reason are wrong for linking it to the fact that hausas are not educated.

As africans we should simply be proud one of our languages was acknowledged by a hight street shop and leave it at that.
Business / Re: London Retailer Shop Adopts Hausa Language To Woo Customers by Lagosboy: 11:06am On May 30, 2011
Katsumoto:

Debenhams is more likely to make money from middle class shoppers than heavy spenders because of the numbers of middle class shoppers. If its only the Debenhams on Oxford street or if the retailer was a luxury brand, then I might have been convinced that they are appealing to their usual customers. In this case, I am just going with the retailer trying to reach some of its illiterate customers.

Sagamite, Nigerians on holiday shop on Oxford street and the West end in general. You are right in stating that many southerners stay with families and friends but that also means that they have more money to spend on shopping. Lets not also forget awon ike (credit card) boys that shop heavily in the west end. 10 Northerners spending £10,000 can not outspend 150 southerners spending £2000 and 15 (ike and yahoo boys) spending £5000. grin

Honestly the arrogance of we southerners is disturbing and our ignorance is painful. It is a shame we have been brainwashed to the extent we think anyone who does not speak english is illiterate. Now how can Debenhams be reaching out to illiterates by writing something on shop walls.

Last time i checked illiterates are not meant to be able to read otherwise they would not be called illiterates. There is hardly any hausa you will find in london that cannot speak english the same way any average southerner does. Writing something in other languages is simply a marketing tool to make the shoppers that speak the language important. It is not to aid shopping in anyway otherwise they will have to speak hausa to them at the till and write hausa on everything in the stall. Simply writing thank you in someones language is a mark of appreciation nothing more and this thread is in fact becoming meaningless.
Business / Re: London Retailer Shop Adopts Hausa Language To Woo Customers by Lagosboy: 8:14pm On May 27, 2011
ignorance is not good at all. Some of us southerners are so arrogant and think so much less of our hausa brothers.

From Edgeware road to marble arch to oxford street down to knightsbridge it is full of hausa shoppers. They are not husslers in the UK like southerners, they just come on holidays and spend like there is no tomorrow.

I cannot even keep count of the number of hausa politicians and businessmen i have seen on edgeware rd.

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