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Politics / Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 8:12am On May 10, 2011
glassman:

To odas outside osun, 20000jobs is no mean feat buh imagin a graduate sweepin & packin refuse on d streets of osogbo, now dat wud hav bn gud 4 old women/widows not 4 young ppl.odas drect trafic for 8k/mnth

Is this the kind of job that was assigned to them ?
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 8:10am On May 10, 2011
ekt_bear:

I don't understand why he cannot appoint temporary commissioners. As you allude to, part of being a good leader is having the right team to help you turn abstract objectives into a specific plan/agenda. I listened to his interview on SR and wasn't really that happy with his justification for the delays.

I have read it to and it never made any sense to me to be honest, the real reason why they have not appointed commsiioners is politics to put it simply. They wanted to reward politicians and people who work for the just concluded elections, they were waiting to to be able to reward anyone who failed in his political aspiration as well. However when political manouvering is placed above governance, you could win in the short term but in the long term you will lose out.

I remember the last channels debate when Fashola was aksed about the striking doctors , he said the reason he could not meet 100% of their demand was because of sustainability,. He knew other sectors would most certainly suffer if the wages are paid. This is not too exonarate Fashola in anyway neither is it to castigate the doctors but i am only looking at the isssue of sustainability of the 20000 workers.
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 4:22pm On May 09, 2011
vigasimple:

@ LAGOSBOY, i Commend you for your constructive criticism. I have been following Aregbesola and the 6 point agenda, and I am worry that this may be VOODOO ECONOMICS.

I have total the sum paid to this youth for 'engagement' as the Governor put it, and it came to N400m per month or N4.8B a year. what are the corresponding returns for 'such investments'. If the 'engagement' makes at least the N400m per month, it will be a money well spent, and it will even be better if the income is above N400m per month, which means the scheme is profitable.

My view and instinct is that the Governor is still unsure of what exactly he wanted to do even with the 6 point agenda to bring the finances of OSUN and the employment of her youth into good shape after PDP of Oyinlola borrowed massively in the last year of that Administration.

TIME WILL TELL. in about 2 years, it will be clear if his administration is REALITY OR VOODOO ECONOMICS.

Lets hope they realise this and work out things properly. Aregbesola seems to be a good person with a genuine intention to serve the people well, however good intentions is never enough to deliver good governance. Proper Prior´Planning with good diligent implementation of clear positive policies is what delievers good governance.
Politics / Re: Ribadu Moves To Kabul, Afghanistan To Fight Corruption by Lagosboy: 4:19pm On May 09, 2011
Gbawe:


The job was offered to him before the elections. Ribadu declined it back then because he wanted to "serve his nation".

In any case , this is proof , in anyone needed it , that the man is driven by the passion to do good and provide his services where most needed. A very profitable alternative would have been for Ribadu to be consultant of choice to the many companies operating or wanting to operate in Africa. Ribadu , as one of the top voices of anti-corruption in Africa, would make a fortune if engaged in the private sector !!! Yet he gets involved in Afghanistan because he believes that preventing the Country from failing is personally more rewarding than vast amounts of money in the bank.

I wish Ribadu well in his new job but never assume this notion of anyone , sometimes what seems apparent is not really what it is. We dont know how much he would be paid by the UN . Everyone likes a degree of wealth and comfort and Ribadu is no exception. I can never vouch for any Nigerian politican in terms of financial dealings except two men which is the late Gani (may blessings be on his soul ) and Buhari.

Ribadu has been asked to help with Afghanistan as far back as when he was still in the EFCC, he was also asked to lecture people in Iraq as far back as 2007 while he was still the EFCC boss, kudos to him. Good luck to him in his new job.

n.b got ur mail wud reply in a bit wink
Politics / Re: Ribadu Moves To Kabul, Afghanistan To Fight Corruption by Lagosboy: 12:48pm On May 09, 2011
Basics007:

He meant well for his fatherland but his lack of political base made him a puppet in the hands of cunning politicians. The likes of Ribadu can never survive in Nig political scene just like Gani.
Mallam wishing u well in all your future endeavours

This is the song i have been singing on NL right from the time Ribadu signified interest in the presidency, I have debated with my pal Gbawe wink on the issue several times.

You cannot as an agent of change win the presidency in Nigeria without a political base on your own turf. Ribadu was hasty and came out of this adventure badly bruised. However i wish him well in what he knows how to do best fighting corruption. His 2 years sojourn to Aghansitan might mean, there will be no visible presidential opposition from ACN. Again, it might have been better for Ribadu to start building a political base in the north with Buhari right now. All i can see is Ribadu returning to Nigeria in 2013/14 and the ground dynamics might have changed and he will lose out again. Having said that, Ribadu needs to feed his family which means the job migh be a good idea for his personal self.
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 11:36am On May 09, 2011
Below is the 6 point agenda of Aregbesola

Action plan: eradication of poverty and hunger through food production, roads construction and processing of agricultural products, restoration of healthy living, through the provision of effective health care, promotion of functional education and enhancement of communal peace and progress.

The plans a very much ambigous. This 6 point agenda is only the vision Aregbesola has for the state as a leader , which is perfectly alright. However, policies have to be drawn up to actualise these plans and sustain the plans.
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 11:31am On May 09, 2011
manny4life:

hmmm this is interesting!

Tourism require substantial amount of money for it to be profitable; reliable accommodation, good transportation network and foremost security. I say he does he invests first before reaching out to sell himself. I went through the entire post and saw the 20,000 jobs that is to be absorbed by govt. Afre claimed well they pay taxes as well so it's a win-win situation.

@Lagosboy did a good job analyzing this for us; a govt who absorbs N400,000,000 monthly or N4.8billion annually must be able to pull at least 5x of that annual else they run into deficit. What people fail to understand is that "govt does not create jobs" but create friendly environment that creates those jobs. In economics, any govt who engages in direct of jobs for the people is bound to be bankrupt sooner or later. As for taxes, how much % of taxes will an average person pay that represent a revenue against the deficit on the govt books? Now with N4.8 billion, that is $40million dollars, let the govt engage in long term investments like tourism, agriculture, transportation etc. $40million can build an above average speed intercity rail line of about 10 miles or more , it can build solid road networks
The govt can ask cars owners that ply on the road to pay a monthly access fee or pay auto tax in the state. A state that has 100,000 people with cars and invest $40million on good roads, assuming you pay a $10 tax monthly based upon the value of your car or $120, that is $12million revenues. Yes diverse people are employed thru the system professional (civil/structural/mechanical/electrical engineers)who maintain the road, non professional people (cleaners/sweeper/tarring etc) they might not hire 20k people but at least the state has a significant investment where it generates revenues

This is exactly my position , Osun state presently does not generate that amount of money, there are complains of debts , empty treasury and all sorts, it does not make economic sense to then burden the state with monumental wages within 3 months of an administration´s inception.

The only explanation for this is that there are currently no policy makers on ground , which is because there are no commissioners 7 months into an adminstration. If the administration does not go back to the drawing board early enough , the next 2 years might be wasted and nothing tangible would be achieved. This is the kind of criticism that is required of us as citizens to direct at our leaders.

What is the health policy of Osun state ? What is the tourism policy ? what is the infrastructure development policy ? what is the investement policy of the state ? We need to know these policies and praise it if it is good and if not , make constructive criticism. However, as far as i know and i could be wrong there are currently to real policy on paper or available to the public from the Argbesola govt on these areas. Policy is not just "we are going to build new hospitals, equip them bla bla bla  but policies will analyse to us how the activities will be funded, how it will be sustained, life term of the policy before it is expected to be modified etc
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 12:21pm On May 06, 2011
Gbawe:

My brother , PDP mismanagement of Osun State was monumentally atrocious . It is similar to Edo where Oshiomhole met a state , in an administrative mess,  impoverished by Igbinedion (perhaps also Osunbor) . Oshiomhole first had to battle the godfather-enshrined practices that meant Government department and function were run for the benefit of a few individuals. It is similar for Osun and Aregbesola will come good in time. What is important is that he has done some commendable things and the people of Osun are solidly behind him to the extent that they voted ACN across the board . It is instructive that this is the only State Ribadu won as well. His work is known to people of Osun and his approval rating is very high.

http://www.osundefender.org/?p=15941


I very much agree that his approval rating is high but i am thinking long term , i am thinking of Osun state in 2015. His populist actions are loved by the people but like i said above i dont understand how it will be sustained in the long term.

20,000 employees earning the minimum wage of 20k naira translates into 400,000,000 naira montly which is 4.8 Billion naira annually. If this 4.8 billion is spent on infrastructure of the tourism industry , within 18 months private sector investments will flow into the state and they will provide employment. You would have killed 3 birds with one stone bacause during the provision of infstarucutre people will be employed , infratructure will be provided and tourism industry will boom which in turn will provide thousands of employment. You then move to other sectors health , agriculture, education and a host of others.

4.8 billion for 4 years is 19.2 billion naira . I want to believe a rail link , roads , hospitals and lots of infrastructure that would outlive Aregbesola could be built with this money.
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 12:12pm On May 06, 2011
ekt_bear:

OK. So in a situation where you have cash flow problems, a bloated civil service, the solution is to create 20,000 more unproductive government jobs That cost $X per year from government funds, but only returns $Y in value (where Y is MUCH smaller than X)  undecided undecided undecided

You are in year one of office. . . does it really make sense to bloat the government even further rather than trying to shrink it
At least wait until year 3 or 4 to do that, if it is necessary to boost your popularity for winning an election.

This is why it is so important to attract investment. . . then rather than paying for 20,000 jobs out of government money, you have someone else (an investor) provide the jobs for you. Then you can spend the money on healthcare, education, etc.


These were my exact thoughts, these 20000 might eventually become parasites of a symbiotic type on the state. It is nice to be a populist but focusing much on populist policies dont eventually last the test of time. It is always good to strike a balance between populist actions and sustainable development.

If commisioners and Sas of sound minds were already on ground , they would be the one shaping the policies of the state. Aregbesola as a leader is only required to express and articulate his vision for the state and let the policy makers come up with sound sustainable policies of which He will administer to the letter as an administrator. This is the job of a leader IMO.

If i was Aregbesola i would have focused on the endless tourism  opportunities in osun state , source for funds to develop the infrastrucutre around there and infrastrucutre to get to the destinations. The tourism industry will provide employment for these youths.

Govt Job creation is not by absorbing them to the public work force but by creating opportunities where requirements for employments of value would be needed. This 20,000 workforce although good for the people, and laudable but from an economic and long term perspective is not sustainable in Osun state in my humble opinion.
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 11:41am On May 06, 2011
hercules07:

I hope those condemning Aregbesola are aware that Osun is number 33 on the list of states receiving allocations, has a large civil service and is bogged down by debts from oyinlola's administration, he is using his security vote and other monies allocated to governors to pay for the 20,000 people he employed, thereby indirectly pumping some money into the hands of the poor, he is also working on the agricultural sector, it is going to take some time but he will get it right.

Let us hope he does as our prayers are with him. I was aware of the 20000 youth employment which was good.
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 10:19am On May 06, 2011
@ Gbawe

In my first post below the bolded was the only positive thing I could think of from the MoU, anything apart from that would be a mirage and wishful thinking IMO.

Lagosboy:

Buddie, are you in a position to expantiate further on this Mou because it appear very generic to me and i cannot at present find specifics on how it will benefit the state.

Maybe in the areas of staff training in muncipal administration undecided
Gbawe let us be honest with ourselves, I know it is always good to see the positives in issues and not always the negatives but we have to be objective at times and criticize so as to bring the best out of our leaders. I know you are ACN but you should criticize when some things are not going well. I like Aregbesola as a person and I know few people close to him and who also on ground with him in Osun state at present.

However, I personally think he has not achieved much in his seven months of governance, I know PDP messed up the state but there is a proverb that says “ if it is going to rain in the evening we should already be seeing the movement of clouds by the afternoon” . Aregbesola does not have commissioners after 7 months in power. I am aware it is a political issue and they were waiting for the elections to be over so as to see who is available and be awarded positions. In the UK we both know well , opposition parties have shadow cabinets ready to govern at a anytime as they are familiar with what is happening in the government.

No commissioners and SAs in  govt means no policy direction in the state, means when commissioners and SAs are appointed , they will spend another 1 years developing policy direction , means after 2 years proper implementation might begin. It means the first year of the commissioners in power will be doing the same old things Oyinlola´s commissioners were doing in the state.

Aregbesola is going too slow in everything and in my humble opinion talks more than action. He is good guy personally and I like him but I personally think he might be one of the flops after 4 years. My assessment is only based on the discussions I have with people around him and his actions in general. I hope I am wrong and he proves me wrong because I like him.
Politics / Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Lagosboy: 9:41am On May 06, 2011
I only started to enjoy myself on NL the day i started to select people i engage in conversations , debates or issues. I dont know how some people have the energy to argue and argue, rolling in the circle in the process and at the end of the debate we are worse off in understanding compared to when we started.

Time is indeed a precious thing and I very much agree with Gbawe that some people dont have a life beyond NL otherwise why would anyone argue for hours , days , weeks saying the same things in order to win an arguement. 

ACN is not a regional party ! It is true it has its strongest base in the SW but the party has NASS members scattered across the country. PArty is not solely judged by the state it has governors otherwise we would say CPC is not a nasarawa party because it only controls the governorship of one state, while forgetting the 83 HOR seats and 6 senatorial seats.

Lets us shed our myopic, ethnic thinking and liberate our minds from the schackles of the intellectual poverty some of us suffer from.
Politics / Re: ACN Not A Yoruba Party, Says Ngige by Lagosboy: 4:59pm On May 05, 2011
In as much as i have some reservations for ACN we should never let out sentiments make us from run away from facts.  ACN was formed in 2006 by politicans nationwide , it only happened by fortune that Atiku and Tinubu were the biggest politician of clout in ACN when it started. When i talk of clout i mean financial liquidity , Rimi , Iyorcha Ayu , Boni Haruna , Ibrahim Babtel, Ghaali Naaba and a host of other PDP elements.

However, the elections were rigged and only Lagos was won by ACN. Most of the northern politicans left ACN because they wanted to eat . Tinubu stood with ACN because without it he will not be politically relevant and funded the cases in court, kudos to him. He is enjoying the success today of which Atiku would have been part of if he was smart enough to realise he was never going to win the PDP ticket. The other ACN guys left ACN with Atiku and today are politcally irrelevant except GEJ rewards them with some kind of appointment.

ACN is not a tribal party but has its strongest base in the SW, I am sure ACN won Adamawa in 2007 as well but the election was rigged. The court nullified it and the re run by Iwu was rigged again .

Ngige is a man i admire for his courage and i believe he will be the next Governor of Anambra state which means ACN will have another state in the SE. However, for ACN to win any presidential election in Nigeria they need to forge alliances with the Buhari group which has tremendous northern support.
Politics / Re: Aregbesola Signs MOU With London Borough. by Lagosboy: 2:48pm On May 05, 2011
Buddie, are you in a position to expantiate further on this Mou because it appear very generic to me and i cannot at present find specifics on how it will benefit the state.

Maybe in the areas of staff training in muncipal administration undecided
Politics / Re: 64 Firms To Invest Over $25b In Lekki Free Trade Zone? by Lagosboy: 2:39pm On May 05, 2011
This is good news and the 4th mainland bridge linking ikorodu to Lekki will be the only thing to enable the success of this free trade zone. I have been to the zone and seen it myself. however, all the workers that is expected to work at that zone have to be able to get there. Lekki Epe expressway is too small to accommodate the new volume of traffic that the zone will generate.

The coastal road has to be constructed or completed as well as the 4th mainland bridge. Big jetties at ikorodu will also be a good avenue for more ferries to commute passengers from ikorodu to Lekki. We should never forget that a port is also being  built in the area.
Politics / Re: Oyo Pdp, Acord Party (ladoja) Legislators-elect In Alliance Talks For Speaker by Lagosboy: 11:43am On May 05, 2011
This is very good for governance in Nigeria , especially if the opposition HOA members are sincer and have the development of the state at their hearts. A speaker from the opposition will surely keep the governor on his toes and enable perform well. He will not get too comfrotable and perform well because he knows there is real competition.

Absolute monopoly of gevernance in Nigeria leads to no development, although there are few exceptions like LAgos and rivers.
Politics / Re: Acn Will Not Turn Down Ministerial Offer From Gej by Lagosboy: 5:01pm On May 04, 2011
Gbawe:

ACN have stated definitively and officially that the Party is not interested in any "Government of National Unity". They hint that it is the PDP's way of weakening the opposition to provide a situation where the government of the day , undemocratically , has no critics . The ACN are happy to be a Government-in-waiting because there is every confidence that the next 4 years will cement the Party's reputation as one that is capable, more than others, of providing good leadership for Nigerians . This belief that the ACN will join a GNU ( see below) is the result of premature talk from an individual that is at odd with the stance reached by the Party. The Party have disowned his statement after meeting to officially take the stand of distancing the ACN from any GNU formed by GEJ.

http://www.dailytrust.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18572:acn-ready-for-jonathans-gnu--ekiti-chair-he-is-on-his-own-says-party&catid=1:news&Itemid=2


Man mi, u still dey town ? did u get the last mail?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Thoughts On The Death Of Osama Bin Laden By Yasir Qadhi by Lagosboy: 4:41pm On May 04, 2011
LagosShia:

just a little insight which can be extensively backed into the wahhabi (salafist) ideology of alqaeda which is based upon the teachings of Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahab,Ibn Taymiyyah and Sayyed Qutb (wahhabi ideologists).this is just a tip of the ice-berg about the ideology which permits killing even civilians for simply being non-muslims or even muslims from other school of thought (as the shia) who are deemed heretics:

Ideology and Goals
The principal stated aims of al-Qaeda are to drive Americans and American influence out of all Muslim nations, especially Saudi Arabia; destroy Israel; and topple pro-Western dictatorships around the Middle East. Bin Laden has also said that he wishes to unite all Muslims and establish, by force if necessary, an Islamic nation adhering to the rule of the first Caliphs.

According to bin Laden's 1998 fatwa (religious decree), it is the duty of Muslims around the world to wage holy war on the U.S., American citizens, and Jews. Muslims who do not heed this call are declared apostates (people who have forsaken their faith).

Al-Qaeda's ideology, often referred to as "jihadism," is marked by a willingness to kill "apostate" —and Shiite—Muslims and an emphasis on jihad. Although "jihadism" is at odds with nearly all Islamic religious thought, it has its roots in the work of two modern Sunni Islamic thinkers: Mohammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab and Sayyid Qutb.

Al-Wahhab was an 18th-century reformer who claimed that Islam had been corrupted a generation or so after the death of Mohammed. He denounced any theology or customs developed after that[b] as non-Islamic[/b], including more than 1,000 years of religious scholarship. He and his supporters took over what is now Saudi Arabia, where Wahhabism remains the dominant school of religious thought.

Sayyid Qutb, a radical Egyptian scholar of the mid-20th century, declared Western civilization the enemy of Islam, denounced leaders of Muslim nations for not following Islam closely enough, and taught that jihad should be undertaken not just to defend Islam, but to purify it.

Read more: Al-Qaeda — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/spot/al-qaeda-terrorism.html#ixzz1LILcSHJ1

@LAgosshia

Please this will inshallah be my last response to you on the thread. We are having a relious discussion and as a muslim
the best place to reference for the definition of Wahabism and aqeedah is "infoplease.com" . This sums up my pereception of you.

Ibn Abdul Wahab RA and Ibn Tayimiyyah RA and even Sayyid Qutb RA could you please quote me a reference from their books where it is stated that innocent could be killed and murdered.

The fact that a group of people try to lay claims to a scholar does not mean the scholar sanctions their actions. Sayyid Qutbs ideology of replacing Jahliyyah sysytem with islamic system is no different from Imams khomeinis ideology of replacing a tyrant by islamic system. Sayyid Qutb said you could use a voilent means if neccessary, Imam Khomeinii used a voilent revolution against the shah.

I dont want to go down into a sectarian discussion bro as i dont have the time and energy.

Bottom line is the ideology of killing innocents is not in any of the works of these scholars. Salafi ideology is islamic ideology albeit we differ with it but we have to respect their opinion on issues. All the Salafi scholars i know within and outside Saudi have all spoken against Al qaeda.

In Egypt we dont have wahabism but we have people who share Al qaedas belief and are in no way salafi. Bro, in social science there are what we call multi spetra and multi faceted issues. We have to analyse issues indiviually and not lump groups together. It is only in the western media they tag al qaeda wahabism and wahabism equaling al qaeda. A muslim that does the same without analysing or understanding it is plain wrong.

Wahabism is term created by the opponenents of the teachings of Ibn abdul Wahab nothing more
Politics / Re: CPC Turns On Its Leadership At Rowdy Meeting In Abuja by Lagosboy: 12:58pm On May 04, 2011
Eziachi:

Your bolded word analyze is overly ambigious. Every meeting after a defeat of a sort, you should expect that tempers will flare sometimes. I will use football again. If you go to a dressing room of team losing 2 nil in an important much,you don't say they will analyze, tempers do fare, some managers like Ferguson is known to throw tea cup at some player and its far worse when the team eventually loses the game.

Some of you are praying for the demice of CPC but my advise for you is that its not for your best interest if you still believe in democracy.

Mind you, you don't celebrate every victory since more work is ahead of you. GEJ has othing to celebrate now until the dawn of 2015 when he takes stock and he should stay far away from those of you popping champagne now when there is rough road ahead. Anyway this is Nigera, where success is based on how you choose to define it for yourself.

Explanation from an elder !!

Most of this GEJ folks act like babies sometimes, once a party dominates a country there will be no progress because there is no competition and that is part of the reason we have not progressed as a country,
Islam for Muslims / Re: Thoughts On The Death Of Osama Bin Laden By Yasir Qadhi by Lagosboy: 12:42pm On May 04, 2011
I really do not like to engage you in discussions as I am sorry to say but you appear to lack the neccessary intellectual analytical depth for us to agree on anything. I dont debate to win but debate to meet at a common ground if it is possible and if not so be it.

we cannot unite under the banner of making islam to be mistaken for terrorism and killing innocent people to force the world into islam.the Quran says "no compulsion in religion".show me one place where the Prophet (sa) attacked Quraysh civilians and i will listen to your call for unity.the more we talk against this evil brand associating itself with islam the better the non-muslim world would listen to us muslims when we tell them islam is about peace and love.we need not fight anyone for islam.islam is rationality and beautiful enough for the entire world to be appealed to it.

All the above is not needed because I never said anything close to or justifying the killing of innocents so please spare me your emotional outburst. All i am saying is Al Qaeda is different from Wahabism or Saudi Salafism period.

that is the problem with wahhabism.they tag anyone a kaffir as they wish.why call bin laden a "kaffir"?who are they?it is the same ideology of tagging other muslims with takfir that is spreading danger and hate in the world.

last time i check,your supreme headquarter of wahhabism,saudi arabia,with the permission of its un-islamic government are housing thousands of american forces on the most holiest land in islam.they commit every act which their so called shariah bans.

last time i check the saudi government is an american puppet.

last time i checked the wahhabi "scholars" are government employees.he who pays the piper dictates the tune.

This is the problem i have with you, you cannot understand the core message i am trying to pass across. You act and post like a robot that has been programmed to post  certain things regardless of what the other person is saying. I am not here to talk about Saudi govt or puppet scholars. Alli said and i am saying is Al qaeda ideology is different to Wahabism as we know it or Salafism. If Saudi wahabism was same with Al qaedas ideology why will they tag usama as a non muslim ? Why would they refuse his body? Why will the saudi scholars be fighting the Al qaeda idology in KSA. This is just simple logic dude! Take a break from all the shia message against wahabism. I am not Wahabbi  and i disagree with many of the wahabi school views but as a muslim i dont resort to cheap lies or propaganda.

every act of terrorism that have come out and tarnished the image of islam is from that "group of people" you're supporting.in iraq and pakistan more muslims have being killed by wahhabi extermists including alqaeda than by the american "crusaders".check here how they call bin laden a "matyr":


This is the again the problem you have, "if it is not black then it is white" . Where in my post have i been supporting whabbis killing innocents. Only if you will think outside the box that the fact that a person is calling your attention to be fair in castigating others does not mean he supports them.

Read through my many posts on this section and you will see my numerous posts against the Saudi regime and saudi govt scholars. However, my disagreement does not mean i will attribute what is not theirs to them.

ALQAEDA IDEOLOGY IS DIFFERETENT TO WAHABISM OR SAUDI SALAFISM.
Politics / Re: Where Are The Supporters Of Buhari? by Lagosboy: 9:37am On May 04, 2011
I supported the peoples General because of the conviction I have in him, I still believe he would have being the best president for Nigeria. However, elections have come and gone , one person has to win and GEJ has won this time around by whatever means we can call it.

We have to move foward as a nation, we in the opposition have to go back to the drawing board, startegise for the next elections and make effective constructive criticism to bring the best out of the current govt. The opposition should work hand in hand at the NASS to pass bills that will advance the progress of our dear nation.

PDP´s 2/3 majority in the senate is lost and that is a good step. However if GEJ appoints career politicians as his ministers then whatever ministry they handle might be business as usual.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Thoughts On The Death Of Osama Bin Laden By Yasir Qadhi by Lagosboy: 8:05am On May 04, 2011
LagosShia:

Dear brothers and sisters,

why do you fail to see the problem for what it is?

bin laden did not invent anything new.he did not start anything that the wahhabi aka salafi movement does not have.after his killing was reported yesterday,they have tagged him with the title of "shahid" or matyr for killing innocent people which islam rejects.this ideology is a burden on muslims and the image of islam.the more we expose it the better for us.the world would understand that they dont represent islam.

see:

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234988980-bin-laden-did-wrong-ijtihad-but-he-is-a-shahid/

there is a minority of so called muslims who are giving islam a bad image.this movement started in saudi arabia by Muhammad Ibn Adul-Wahab as an offshoot of sunnism.this is an intolerant and extreme form of religion based on hate.its not islam.

the salafi/wahhabis have it in their ideology that everyone else is a kaffir.they believe islam can be spread by forcing people while islam says no compulsion in religion.the Quran says so that you cant force people to believe.but they think all the verses in the Quran asking muslim to fight the unbelievers,the muslims fought simply because those were unbelievers and not because the unbelievers were aggressors who offended and hurt the muslims.

see this:

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234988608-saudiwahhabi-beheader-on-tv-show/




Please stop propagating falshood and why are you hell bent on disunity , concilatory and harmony. You thrive on contreversies, sectarianism and hatred.

Last time i checked Saudi Arabia the headquaters of Wahabism is suffering from terrorism, last time i checked Saudi have killed hundreds of their own citizens in the name of fighting terror, last time i checked saudi scholars the core scholars of Wahabism tagged Usama a kafir , last time i checked the Council of ulama in saudi called usama and al qaeda members brothers of the devil.

Life is not black and white like i always say to you . I am not a Wahabbi and i have lots of diasgreement with some of the positions in the Wahabbi school neither am i a shia but propagating falshood against a group of people is plain disgusting.
Politics / Re: Sagamite's Analysis Of State Governors by Lagosboy: 5:16pm On May 03, 2011
Seems Peter Obi has been a failure.


This brings me to the issue of educational qualifications in Nigeria. Looking at all the state governors most of them have 2 degrees and some even in public administration or public policy . However all this degree have translated into nothing except misery for their state indigenes.

Ameachi only has a bachelors and one from Nigeria, same goes to Fashola with one degree and from Nigeria but their perfomance speaks volume of their intellect. It is hight time we stop looking at fancy foreign degrees as a yardstick of expected perfomance. Degrees dont mean anything when the inherent greed in our politicans overcome their intellect.
Politics / Re: Fiscal Federalism, Panacea For Power Struggle – Tinubu by Lagosboy: 4:10pm On May 03, 2011
I agree with Tinubu 100% on the issue of fiscal federalism or a review of the revenue allocation formular Fashola talked about 2 days ago. It is the best for Nigeria and i think we should start the debate big time, this debate should not ot just for pages of newpapers but the debate should start at the NASS.

Hence, if Tinubu is sincere with this as i want to believe so , ACN should make it a policy and work with CPC at the lower house to sponosr the bill and put it to debate which will positively result in a vote.

However, i do not like to see the hole in the doughnut all the time but the comment below :

On whether the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) would[b] serve in the President Goodluck Jonathan’s administration, Tinubu gave a non-committal reply: “If there is clear vision and determination to really serve the country, we are committed to it. We are committed to a united country; we are committed to rapid development of Nigeria, good economic recovery and constitutional democracy[/b].”

I can only intepret this to mean yes, ACN will serve in the government as part of the deal that brought PDP to power. I have no problem with this in the least, if it will be capable and efficient minsiters that will deliver. Where my problem lies is the double speak or hypocricy of denial that a deal was never struck which led to the collapse of the proposed alliance.

The GEJ led PDP will maintain the status quo and nothing will change, with men like FO standing by GEJ it will be business as usual . My only beef is calling PDP devil and secretly striking a deal wiith them , it has all the smell of typical Nigerian politicians.
Islam for Muslims / Re: I Need Muslim Lady Models For A Fashion Show by Lagosboy: 12:43pm On May 03, 2011
If it is a show of females by females and strictly for females then there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. However, if this show will be screened to the public wherein ladies will parade themselves for the admiration of some blokes then it is nonsensiscal in the least to tag it with an islamic tag.

And God knows best

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Politics / Re: Saraki, Goje May Battle Mark For Senate Presidency by Lagosboy: 12:36pm On May 03, 2011
Otedola and OBJ were one of the biggest beneficiary of billions under OBJ . OBJ is close to GEJ and OTedola had positioned himself several months ago as one of the the big guys again. Talking about sponsors , the donation of these guys is insignificant compared to Nigerias money GEJ used to campaign. GEJ reportedly spent 200 billion and FO and his firends IMO cannot donate more max ten billion naira to the campaign.

Under GEJ it will be business as usual , Few guys will hit money big time and Nigerians will suffer. Same old recycled politicians cannot and will never effect the change we require. The senate will be business as usual, the house of rep will eb business usual as well unfortunately.
Politics / Re: Saraki, Goje May Battle Mark For Senate Presidency by Lagosboy: 1:16pm On May 02, 2011
enyojo:

This is an uphill task for both of them since it is against the senate rules that a first timer senator to hold their presidency. David mark is most likely to win Though it is widely believed that with the likes of Ayogu Eze, Ekweremadu, Udoma Egba and Mark himself all at the top ranking positions, the New Senate might still retain the same inordinate allowances and even do worse.

As far as i am aware no such rule exists and if it exists it cannot stand against the constitition which clearly says any senator can vie for the seat , first time or 2nd timer s irrelevant.

Either Goje or Saraki in my view were good administrators in their states but neither in my humble opinion will represent or effect the neccessary changes we yearn for. Another 4 years of national misery IMO
Islam for Muslims / Re: Lagosboy : Forgiveness In Islam by Lagosboy: 9:57pm On Apr 29, 2011
congoshine:

I think you should change your signature to Join the BB2015 train then cheesy cheesy cheesy .
Lets be frank,Buhari for all his good traits isn't electable.

The best president IMO would have been Mallam El-Rufai,but he's unfortunately also unelectable.

We need a President -Prime Minister system,I think .

El Rufai has a better chance penetrating the SW region and with the help of Buhari some of the northern votes. 4 years is a million light years in politics and dynamics could all change in the next 4 years.

Buhari will not contest in 2015 so it wouldnt be BB2015 , however we will continue to work for the Buharism ideology and principles and support candidates with such good qualities.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Lagosboy : Forgiveness In Islam by Lagosboy: 9:53pm On Apr 29, 2011
hymen:

You are quite right. Very reasonable and balanced people like LB make me really take a second and much more favourable look at Islam. On the other hand,I sometimes think God is preparing him (LagosBoy) for His use to further the message of Jesus Christ.

Thanks Hymen and i say amen to the prayer/thought. May God use me in positve ways to further the message of Jesus PBUH and infact all the prophets of God PBUT all. The message is simple and direct which is the call of mankind to submit and worship their creator without associating patners to him.

But less i forget this prayer is taking too long o cos no hidden agenda   wink
Politics / Re: Let's Keep Hope Alive - Dora Akunyili by Lagosboy: 4:21pm On Apr 28, 2011
biachwest:

lagosboy you has just defined your personality: descreaminating dora is not the best way to encourage other talented women that have the qualities to contribute to the betterness of our society.
which is most needed now in nigeria creat stronger new era.

Could you please define the word descrimination for me please?

A person has lost an election after wide accusation and evidence that her and her party tried to rig , she loses the 2nd time and complains of rigging. Why can she not congratulate the winner like Bankole, Daniel,OBj and others did.

What has my personality got to do with this. What encouragement do i need to give her. She has been head of Nafdac and Cabinet Minister . She should telephone GEJ to give her job back or go and cook for her husband.
Politics / Re: After Fashola,who Is Next In Lagos State by Lagosboy: 3:52pm On Apr 28, 2011
Fhemmmy:

die-hard fan of Remi . . . . . Lol

Paddy e , it is Remi or nobody o. We will oragnise a 1 million march for Remi to come and contest. We will march to TBS , our group is called YOUTH EARNESTLY ASK fOR REMI - YEAR   grin

Do you want to be a member?
Politics / Re: Let's Keep Hope Alive - Dora Akunyili by Lagosboy: 3:50pm On Apr 28, 2011
Madam Dora go and cook for your husband and stop making a fool of yourself in the market square. Better still, phone GEJ and he will return you to the cabinet abi na by force to be a senator ?

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