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madridguy:
Are we talking about Imam here?

Ok..let's talk about it. Where are the female imams?

Oh... sorry, the Islamic word for judge is qadi.

So where are the female qadis?

misterh:
In Islam, cleanliness is an integral part of the the religion. The Prophet of Islam said Purity is half of Faith. One has to be in a state of purity before he/she can pray. Faeces, urine, semen, menstrual blood, blood from childbirth amongst others are considered to be impurities. So when a menstruating woman or woman who still has blood from childbirth doesn't pray, it's not discrimination but that they have to be pure first as when they're in those states, they're considered impure. Same goes for a man who ejaculates- whether it's prostatic fluid or the real semen. It's when both parties have purified themselves that they are allowed to observe Salaat.
Secondly, the kind of prayers the menstruating woman is forbidden from are the Salaats.

I didn't mention of Paul in Galatians. Check 1st Timothy and 1 Corinthians 14.
And I'm not using bible verses to justify what you term as discrimination of women in Islam. You accused Islam of being discriminatory while promoting Christianity as not. I merely pointed a verse to you where women 'seemed' to have been discriminated.

Ps- Seemed is in inverted commas because I'm not an expert at Christianity affairs and thus, can't conclude what was meant by the stated verse.

I like the way you addressed the issue. It shows maturity.

Islam and Christianity are not the same.

Different values

Different faith

Different standards

Different God

Your statement is true 'Faeces, urine, semen, menstrual blood, blood from childbirth amongst others are considered to be impurities. So when a menstruating woman or woman who still has blood from childbirth doesn't pray, it's not discrimination but that they have to be pure first as when they're in those states, they're considered impure.'

It is not the same in Christ. In Christ Jesus, we are not pure in the presence of God based on outward factors like faeces, urine, etc - we can even pray in the toilet. Our God made us pure by the blood of Jesus. Our own purity is not mainly outward but internal purity. God looks at the heart, our motive.

The cleanest of men can be impure in the sight of God if his mind is not pure whereas a destitute can be very pure in the sight of God once he's aligned with Christ.

I'll like you to read the story of Lazarus and the rich man. It's an interesting story. You can Google it.

Lazarus was a poor man with sore - he eats from the crumbs that falls from the rich man's table yet he was accepted by God.

Allah wouldn't like to see the dirty Lazarus, I guess?

Activa:
What of the 3 days?

Answer before I come back to your calculation of nights.

Open your mind.

By the way, was Jonah's three days and three nights in the belly of the whale also figurative?

What should I open my mind to? Your delusional argument?

Read my previous post very well, this time; slowly.

In the belly of the earth means the total crucifixion event. Jesus was crucified from Friday morning - 1st day.

The day turned to night at noon - 1st night.

After 3 hours, there was day again - 2nd day

At the normal Friday night - 2nd night

Saturday day - 3rd day

Saturday night - 3rd night

Like I said earlier, the letter kills but the Spirit gives life. You need the Holy Spirit bro

You can't try this in Islam. Allah will not accept the prayer.
Allah hate dogs, pigs, and women to be around Muslim men while praying

misterh:
Like I said, you have no knowledge of what you're talking about. In the Hadith you quoted, was it stated that a woman shouldn't pray in a mosque? The Hadith is about a menstruating woman. A menstruating woman is in a state of uncleanness. She can't pray or even fast. When in. prayer, being in a complete state of cleanliness is compulsory.

Cheers.

So according to Allah's standard, a menstruating woman's prayer is unacceptable and can only compare women to dogs and ass. The God that creates menstruation in women does not discriminate against the prayers of menstruating women.

You mentioned Paul in the book of Galatians. I don't get!

Are you talking about the same Paul that taught about how women prays and prophecies in the 1st part of 1 Corinthians Chapter 11?

Like I mentioned to someone earlier, stop looking for Bible verses to justify Islamic hatred/discrimination of women.

factwriter:
Na wa for you o,
so much in a hurry to reply me that you couldn't read through my post understandably.

Where did I even use the word "mosque"

I said CONGREGATION.

Male and female Muslim don't go to different mosques, never, ever. Our women are not encouraged to be that lose.

What we have is PARTITION and SEGREGATION. 99% of the time both male and female Muslims observe their CONGREGATIONAL prayers in the same edifice.

Comprehend?

You created the impression of female mosques with female imams and male/female mosques with male imams.

Read your earlier post again.

Now to your 'clarification'; in this congregation of partitioned male and female mosque, do female imams lead prayer in the female partition or the females follow the prayer leadings of the male imam in the main male congregation?

If the females doesn't lead prayers in their own partition, then where are the female imams?

If a female lead prayer in the congregation, what will happen? Will the prayer be nullified by Allah?

Please answer the questions

misterh:
You have no knowledge of what you're talking about.

A woman can't pray side by side a man in the mosque because free mixing of opposite sexes is not encouraged in Islam. This has nothing to do with discrimination: it's the rule.

You don't need to write all these. Anybody with good understanding of Islam knows that allowing women to pray side by side with men in mosques is just like allowing an ass or a dog in the mosque.

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:
Qatadah said: I heard Jabir ibn Zayd who reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas; and Shu'bah reported the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: A menstruating woman and a dog cut off the prayer. ( Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 2, Number 0703 )

factwriter:
A judge presides over "judicial matters" concerning the the state and it's inhabitants.

An Imam leads at a "Muslim congregational prayers".

There are female Imams everywhere, they lead female congregations only.

Where a congregation is made up of male and female, a male Imam leads the prayer from the (partition or segregated) "male only" platform.

So what else do you still require now to take him serious?

From your own words, female imams lead female Muslims in mosques while male imams leads in male mosques. Right?

So in a Muslim family, the father and sons attend male mosques while the wives and daughters attend female mosques. Right?

Are the male mosques and female mosques praying to the same Allah?

If they're praying to the same Allah, what stops them from praying together?

These are questions you need to answer.

I don't even need you to start mentioning the names of female mosques and female imams that you know

Actuarydeji:
Is Deborah a Christian? You're still baby in Christianity

Ooo, here they come again.
Deborah is a Muslim abi? Yeye

yemaldo:
U are a liar, we have female judge in ilorin presently

How is he a liar?

He said Islam does not encourage female judge.

I'll believe you if you can tell me the names of female Alfa/lmam in Ilorin or female judge of a Shari'a court

farihafaheemah:
Show me a verse in the bible where a female is allowed to speak on the alter.

Fareehah Faheemah, stop looking for Bible verse to justify Islamic hatred for women!

In Islam, women are relegated as second class citizen!

Women can't lead prayer in mosque.

Women can't pray side by side with men in mosque.

It is haram for Muslim women to marry non-muslims but very OK for Muslim men to marry non-muslims.

What about the role of women in aljanah? Don't let me go there now!

In Christ Jesus, everybody is the same!

Read Galatians 3:26-29 slowly

26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Let Jesus be your Lord today

Activa:
Don't run away.

Count Friday which you said turned into a night together and you still won't get three days and three nights.

It's a challenge.

What challenge?

I'm yet to understand why so many of you guys are so arrogant when it comes to issues like this. Learn, unlearn, and relearn.

If you're in your right mind, you'll know that Jesus' saying of being in the belly of the earth was figurative. Jesus speaks in parables on number of occasions.

You interpreted 'in the belly of the earth' to mean 'being in the grave'.

A closer analysis of Jesus' tomb shows that it wasn't even dug into the earth; rather, it was a room-like carved rock with a stone door.

The meaning of 'in the belly of the earth' is the totality of the crucifixion event while Jesus was in the hands of men.

Read the account of Mathew very well in Mathew 27:32-61

In verse 45 of Mathew 27, the day turned to night for complete 3 hours (from noon to 3pm) - this was the first night!

The second night was the normal Friday night - at this time, he was already in the tomb.

The third night was Saturday night.

You need the Holy Spirit to guide you. The letter kills!

Actuarydeji:
Guy go and study your bible very well. Event Christianity is also against it

Stop saying what you don't know.

Deborah is a notable female judge in the Bible

madridguy:
You don't know what you're saying. I repeat, stop saying what you have no knowledge about. Morning!

I'll take you serious the day I see a female imam

Activa:
Study the bible kwa?

After studying it you couldn't even answer the question.

The bible says you should always be sure of the truth and hold on to it, whether it is 2,000 years old or not. But here you are saying we should just forget it.

I dare you to prove that Jesus spent 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the earth as Jonah spent 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the whale.

It was Jesus himself who said this test should be used on him to prove he was from/of God. Hope you k ow this part of the Bible?

It's not too cool to be arrogant about what you don't know.

If you don't know that the day was turned into night on crucifixion day then I don't need to engage you further

Activa:


You won't even narrate the above to a secondary school kid. Right?

Study the Bible and be guided

Activa:
What are you calculating?

He died on Friday and rose ON Sunday morning. How does this make 3 days and 3 nights?

Stop bothering your head, it doesn't add up. The entire Christendom has no clue on this.

Jesus died and rose after three days and three nights. It is an undisputed fact - Jesus said it and I believe it!

On the Friday that Jesus was crucified, at exactly noon, the day turned into night till 3pm; this makes the first night.

Normal Friday night the second night and Saturday night the third night.

Stop worrying about what happened more than 2000 years ago; rather, be more concerned about your future. Where will you be in the next 2000 years? Let it be heaven bro! God bless you

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Radarada...

Immediately Jesus was crucified, the day turned to night for several hours (from noon to 3pm) making it the first night. The second night was the normal Friday night while the 3rd night was Saturday night.

It will be better you all accept the Lord Jesus as your personal Lord and saviour before it becomes too late. Had I know will never be your portion in Jesus name

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ritzyvic1:
Why am I not comfortable with the fact that there wouldn't be sex in heaven?
If the angels in heaven got attracted by women here on earth even though they themselves are spirit beings, we that were once humans might get the urge when we get there. I hope there would be some way out by then, I can't imagine being cast away after struggling to get in

Men will not be in bodily form in heaven.

The body will be left here on earth as dust.

Only the spirit will be in heaven, and the spirit cannot have sexual urges. We will be like the angels worshipping God in heaven

menxer:
So man can't achieve the above stated primary purpose and objectives without marriage?

So why do you think man needs to be married "literally?"
Was Jesus born in wedlock?
Was David or Solomon born in wedlock?

Every child of God knows fully well that it is not right to procreate outside marriage.

Are you saying that Jesus, David, and Solomon were born out of wedlock?
I won't want you to derail this thread with you atheism submissions. Stick to the purpose of this thread which is answering questions about marriage in heaven as believed in Islam and Jesus's teaching on the subject

menxer:
So God established marriage for man but himself is not married, or is he?

You need to understand the purpose of marriage as designed by God.

The primary purpose of marriage is fellowship, companionship, mutual help and comfort.

The other objective of marriage is procreation - to raise godly children.

If you understand the above points, you will agree that God doesn't need to be 'married' literally

Marriage as recognised by God is the divinely established covenant between a man and a woman. Marriage as a lifelong, sexually exclusive relationship brings children into the world and thus sustains the stewardship of the earth.

It is expected that married couples should remain married in this lifetime and the bond can only be broken by death.

Muslims believe that marriage continues even after death - in al jannah. Aside marriage, Muslims believe that Allah will satisfy their sexual desire in heaven by providing them with Houri (virgins).

Jesus taught in Mathew 22:30 that there won't be marriage in heaven - At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

What are your thoughts on this?

Niyi53:
16:106 “Whoso disbelieves in Allah after he has believed -save him who is forced to make a declaration of disbelief while his heart finds peace in faith -but such as open their breast to disbelief, on them is Allah’s wrath; and for them is decreed a severe punishment”
Please, what is it that is stated here that states that one can be “compelled” to tell lies for “the propagation” of the faith?
Quran (3:28) “Let not the believers take disbelievers for friends in preference to believers – and whoever does that has no connection with Allah – except that you guard yourselves fully against them. And Allah cautions you against His punishment; and to Allah is the returning”
Muslims are warned to be on their guard against the plots and machinations of disbelievers. The expression, “except that you guard yourselves fully against them”, refers not to the power of the enemy but to his cunning of which Muslims should always be on their guard.
Quran (9:3) “And this is a proclamation from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the Greater Pilgrimage, that Allah is clear of the idolaters, and so is His Messenger. So if you repent, it will be better for you; but if you turn away, then know that you cannot frustrate the plan of Allah. And give tidings of a painful punishment to those who disbelieve.”
(9:4) “Except those of the disbelievers with whom you have entered into a treaty and who have not subsequently failed you in anything nor aided anyone against you. So fulfill to these the treaty you have made with them till their term. Surely, Allah loves those who are righteous.”
You can take up the Quran and read for yourself, then present your objections again.
Quran (40:28) “And a believing man from among the people of PHAROAH, who kept hidden his faith, said, “will you slay a man because he says, ‘My Lord is Allah,’ while he has also brought you clear proofs from your Lord? And if he be a liar, on him will be the sin of his lie; but if he is truthful, then some of that which he threatens you with will, surely, befall you. Certainly, Allah guides not one who exceeds the bounds and is a great liar;”
“Katama” if studied would be found to have basically two meanings:
1. That one conceals something
2. That it cannot be manifested by a person. Something which was to be manifested cannot be manifested due to not having the ability, that is your disposition is such that it cannot do so
From this meaning it is clear that there is not the least indication of telling lies!
Quran (2:225) “Allah will not call you to account for such of your oaths as are vain, but He will call you to account for what your hearts have earned. And Allah is Most Forgiving, Forbearing”
Taking an oath is a serious matter, but some men are in the habit of swearing without meaning anything. Such oaths as are taken thoughtlessly or as a matter of habit or those taken in a sudden fit of anger do not call for expiation.
Quran (3:54) “And Jesus’s enemies planned and Allah also planned, and Allah is the best of Planners.”
https://www.alislam.org/quran/view/?page=406&region=E1

It's either you don't really understand my previous post or you just decided to ignore the facts thereby aligning with Islamic sactioned lies.
I will only re-comment on the 1st and last Qur'an passage quoted above. Let him that have ear hear!
Qur'an 16:106 “Whoso disbelieves in Allah after he has believed [b] (save him who is forced to make a declaration of disbelief while his heart finds peace in faith) [/b]but such as open their breast to disbelief, on them is Allah’s wrath; and for them is decreed a severe punishment”

The bolded in parentheses showed that Islam permits Muslims to lie under some circumstances when he his forced i.e in the event that the Muslim is captured; he can deny his faith to save his life
This is your quote
Quran (3:54) “And Jesus’s enemies planned and Allah also planned, and Allah is the best of Planners.”
Here's the original quote
[3:54] They plotted and schemed, but so did Allah, and Allah is the best schemer.

Like I mentioned earlier, the Arabic word used for scheme (or plot) in this verse is makara , which literally means 'deceit'.

Muslims may appear very sincere; in fact, they are sincere, when they lie for their own protection or in the cause of Islam. They have permission to lie

They will lie to make Islam more attractive to potential converts as they speak of “no compulsion in religion” while neglecting the violent verses against Christians and Jews.

Muslims have no hope for eternal salvation without their good works, so they must keep working to advance Islam. If a few lies will accomplish that goal, then lying is not bad but good. If they can get good publicity for Islam by lying, then lying is acceptable, even desirable.

The Muslim is earning his way to heaven by lying to a non-Muslim.

Unlike Christians who are saved once for all by the grace of God through faith in Christ’s propitiatory death and resurrection, no Muslim knows for sure if his works are good enough for Heaven. The only Muslim who knows for sure that his eternal destiny is secure and he will drop into a delightful garden filled with 72 virgins (Houri) on soft green cushions is the one who dies while frustrating or killing unbelievers in Islam.
The lie about Houri and sex in heaven (as if humans will be in bodily form in heaven) is another topic entirely.
Brother, please stop defending lies; embrace truth today and let the Truth set you free

Niyi53:
where in the Quran has telling lies been permitted

Quran says "shun, therefore the abomination of idols, and shun all words of untruth" (22:31)
"O ye who believe! fear Allah and say the straight forward words" (33:72)
while in 2:11, it says "...and for them is a grievous punishment because they lied"
so if telling lies could be the reason for punishment, then how would it then be permitting its followers to tell lies!!!
look bro, that taqiyya of a thing is a concept in "shiaism" and it is totally against the holy Quran and the practice of the Holy Prophet pbuh

Islam taught that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences." Let's check through some texts in the Qur'an as requested by you

Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim should appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel that way..

Quran (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway. (The next verse refers only to those who have a personal agreement with Muhammad as individuals - see Ibn Kathir (vol 4 , p 49)

Quran (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Quran (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"

Quran (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara , which literally means 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21 )

Muslims are allowed to lie to non-muslims in order to defeat them.

There are several forms:

Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true as it relates to the Muslim identity.

Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind" ) while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."

Tawriya - Intentionally creating a false impression.

Muruna - 'Blending in' by setting aside some practices of Islam or Sharia in order to advance others.

Amenphx:
you guys should talk to your Imams to stop this hate speeches because that's where it all started. And also encourage your almajiris to study Quo ran. RIP to the victims and quick recovery to the injured.

al majiri are Qur'an students. abi which Qur'an u wan make dem read again

Niyi53:
true Muslims would never be like you. read the Quran to know the qualities of true Muslims.
if your attitude (good attitude) cannot make a non Muslim wish to be a Muslim, then you are still defective.
"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to Allah's will) in Islam" (15:2)

You're right... true Muslim will never agree that Islam is not a peaceful religion. A true Muslim will always use al taqiya (Islamic sanctioned lies) to deceive the gullible.

gabrielniy:
We can go on pin pointing few educated ones here and there, the fact still remains that the lack of quality education goes hand in hand with terrorism too. If the bulk of citizens are properly educated, it would be easier. Take the northern part of Nigeria as an example. The sole blame is not on illiteracy, but it's a factor. The fight against it must be taken above religious beliefs. I have no objection against your points.

Well said brother...

It's a good one that you understood my points. The only education that can transform terrorist inclined Muslim to a civilised one is for them to be enlightened beyond their blood sucking religious book